What happened to the loyalty?

At the end of Microsoft's E3 press conference it was revealed that Sony had lost yet another exclusive, Final Fantasy XIII. This caused quite a riot among Playstation fans. One comment we've seen goes far enough to call Square Enix traitors. A comment like that only shows blatant fanboy-ism and while there's no problem with being a fanboy, you have to look at the facts. Square Enix owes no loyalty to Sony, they are and have always been a third party developer. Microsoft probably coughed up a pretty penny to get such a high profile game onto their console.

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Angelitos3772d ago

I'm going straight to the point about the FF13 multiplatform case:

It ruined the SONY relationship

It disappointed many fans

SONY depended on them to make a great game, to help improve the sales and reptutation of the PS3

Exclusives that tend to go Multi looses interests

Ruined the Playstation exclusive trademark

Becoming like Capcom(no need for further explanation)

Gave one less reason to own a PS3, which it was the PS2 and PS1 that gave Square Enix where they are now.

Showed they cared more about money than loyalty

Slowing down the FF13 Verses development

May question themselves about the storage space and specs they are using when developing FF13

They are looking to seem to betraying another company(like when they ditched Nintendo)

Gave something the Xbox fanboys to cheer and make fun of to the Sony fanboys

Making themselves look foolish when they made statements like, "We are arent looking forward for Final Fantasy games on different platforms". " The PS3 suits Final Fantasy 13".

Made another foolish statement saying it was to reduce the fanboyism, and yet, Last Remnant is a 360 timed exclusive, Infinite Discovery and Star Ocean are 360 exclusives.

And other foolish statement when they said FF13 multi was because of the install base, but then why is FF13 verses a PS3 exclusive? hmmmmm

coolmatrix3771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

Microsoft failed. Square Enix failed. Both miserably!

Microsoft thought that by visiting every popular forums and asking people many months ago their favorite PLAYSTATION brands would lead people to convert to the Microsoft XBox brand. So far, many consumers dont give a damn!

PLAYSTATION customers don't care about HALO or any other Microsoft title on the Xbox360 to want that product on the PLAYSTATION 3.

Has not happen and will not happen. There is a reason people buy Toyotas, Accords, and Lexus. QUALITY, innovation and most important SATISFACTION.

Many people, myself included will NEVER purchase a Microsoft console. NEVER, never, EVER!

1. The quality isn't there.
2. The 360 makes you pay for features standard on the PLAYSTATION 3.
3. Do NOT care about the games.

Square Enix diluted their brand. Every product that follow this course fails within 5 years or sooner. Marketing studies have proven this time and time again.

When customers start doing side by side comparison then you know you have quality issues and brand confusion. As both products get released one set of customer will feel cheated. They will never purchase another product again from Square Enix.

In the end Square Enix have eroded their brand and now try to justify that both are equally the same FFX III $59.99 experience.

360 users are duped every time they spend $59.99 for a DVD9 multi-platform game. DLC - Downloadable content is now the new buzzword for the complete BLURAY 50GB experience.

There is a reason Downloadable content doesn't fit on DVD9!

$59.99 + DLC content = HOSED!!!!!

PLAYSTATION users must avoid MULTIPLATFORM titles. You are not getting what you paid for. You are getting a DVD9 $59.99 experience!

Ripping the base of your support while trying to grow market share is the dumbest thing you have done. It has never worked in ANY business.

Square has become another Microsoft fool. They got played. Microsoft did the same thing with HD DVD. Look how long HD DVD lasted.

Goodbye Square. I feel sorry for the employees at Square who are now have to put out shoddy product just to keep their jobs. What a shame!

Pain3771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

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instal base my a$$.

and FF is on teh~Xbox 2 its Kool Againz!!!!

Fart In Your Mouth3771d ago

Nasim to the rescue with damage control. Get a life dude

Morgan Douglas Jones3772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

Microsoft is what happened.

Ever since they entered the console wars they've been ruining everything. Stealing exclusives because they have none, buying good reviews, etc.

Chris3993771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

Neither MS, Sony nor Nintendo are your friends. You do not talk about girls with them, go for beers, or celebrate their birthdays. They are corporations. They are businesses.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: follow the games. Anyone who has a PS3 and a 360 (like myself) understands this.

Follow the games. Brand/ company loyalty is a myth. Kudos to SE for their business savvy. I just hope that Sony strikes back with some sweet RPG ammo soon and then EVERYONE can be happy.

- C

Lucreto3771d ago

I love competition over titles but this is more MS tact of coercion. Buying up JRPGs to force the RPG crowd to the 360.

Hagaf223771d ago

its simple. games cost more to make games today than it did 10-15 years ago, so they are jumping ship on being exclusive and going for making profits. microsoft isnt the only one stealing exclusives. bioshock was exclusive and it will be hitting shelves for ps3 this fall. its business, and for a business to be sucessful it requires profits, while it sucks to see great franchises jump one ship to live on 2 ships hurts, its the growing way of the gaming industry. welcome to the "golden age of gaming".

littletad3771d ago

Apparently you missed the memo when Final Fantasy appeared on a Nintendo system first. Or even how business works. Or when Dreamcast was shunned out of the console wars because of Sony. But thankfully I'm glad your vision of loyalty is a dying breed and back to the basics of being a true gamer. And that's loyalty to the games, not the systems.

Silellak3771d ago

You win. As I said the day the FF13 announcement was made:

If you think Microsoft, Nintendo OR Sony care about you in any way beyond the money you give them, you're a very deluded person

Thanks for your post - you've saved me having to make a real one.

+Bubbles, and such.

omni_atlas3771d ago

I don't mind the competition. It only means that as consumers, WE get a better product, regardless if its from Sony, MS or Nintendo.

Vertius3771d ago

But it's not competition. It's Microsoft trying to make a monopoly out of the games market, like the PC.

Tell me, how can buying up the fruits of the industry's talent bring about competition? How can a company compete against one that attains exclusivity of, essentially, all the greatest games in the industry?

Funky Town_TX3771d ago

How dare you speak the truth on N4G? Bubble up Sir.

Monty_The_Great3771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

that might be the best comment I have ever read here on n4g. I knew that there were people out here on this site that were like me that saw competition as a good thing and these companies fighting it out with each other is great for the consumer, us, because we get the fruits of there labor. Anyways, great comment, thank you.

the great thing about MSFT trying to buy there way into the gaming industry is that it forces sony to have to either pay up to keep there exclusive so they can try and stay ahead with better exclusive games. If they don't keep that exclusive then it forces them to make the rest of there exclusives that much better.

so you think that Nintendo and Sony are in this for "us gamers." I hate to break it to you, but sony and nintendo are in this for the same reason as MSFT, wait for it......for money. Neither sony or nintendo care about "you' they just want you to buy there system and there games. Also, the gaming industry is stronger than ever. When could you remember that there were 3 systems all doing well at the same time, all coming out with great games? Never.

Funky Town_TX3771d ago

Now if M$ was buying up dev team just to take away games I could somewhat agree. Look at game sales and you will see that the 360 is pushing software right now. If I was a dev and I spent $$$ making a game and I had kids to feed, a mortage, and other things I would try to sale my game. Things were different when all these developers only had PS2 to rely on.

kingOVsticks3771d ago

"Tell me, how can buying up the fruits of the industry's talent bring about competition? "

that perhaps the best comment I read in month's.Between the top game companies Microsoft honestly doesn't look like there in it for the gamers.If they were they would invest into their first party developers as much as Nintendo and Sony.I rather they give more reasons to have and xbox 360 with new ips and individual games then give less reason to have a PS3 by buying out exclusives from sony.The game industry is slowly going down hill

JOLLY13771d ago

That video was hilarious!

incogneato3771d ago

to all the losers claiming that all 3 companies are ONLY after your money, look at the facts:

sony is doing tons of innovating, bringing tons of free stuff, and taking huge risks with innovative games and architecture. sony may want money but you cant deny that they seem to have a special place in their heart for doing really cool effing stuff!

nintendo had this before, i no longer feel that they do. and microsoft never had this. nintendo and microsoft are the true money hungry do nothing idiots like EA and others. there are CLEAR differences between sony and microsoft, just as there are CLEAR differences between EA and insomniac (which btw gave away their code and technology FREE to others). while all of them need money to survive, you are completely brainless and a pessimistic moron if you do not see the CLEAR differences between these companies.

Monty_The_Great3771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

that statement you just wrote might be the most blind fangirl statement i have ever read here on n4g and i have read alot. i hope you really dont think that sony isnt in this for money and that they want to e loyal to "you." you are seriously insane if you think that. i really cant think of anything else to call you if you really believe what you wrote. I mean maybe nintendo and msft are only after your money, but jesus, if you dont think sony is then like i said, you are insane.

also, what sony does all this because they "like" you and they dont wnt your money. seriously ignorance is bliss if you really think that. sony is a business, they want to make money and nothing else.

poopsack3771d ago

yes, sony is a company like all the others that want your money, but they are one of the few that actually care about the quality their consumer gets when and after they buy their product. For example: home is a selling point for the PS3 but they havent released it yet because it wasnt as good as it could be.

kwicksandz3771d ago

Square is just as loyal to Sony as they where to Nintendo.

remember FF1 through 6 ... oh yeah.

Thats the way the cookie crumbles.

jessupj3771d ago

I'm really get very pissed off with this 'it's just business, they need to make money crap'. Seriously guys, enough with that sh!t. There's a thing called customer loyalty. A thing called fan loyalty and having a passion for your work, not for your money. So please stop defending these companies saying 'it's just business', like focusing on money is a good and decent thing to do.

Microsoft might be a successful company, but are they a good company? Have a thing about what 'good and fair' really means.

Bubble Buddy3771d ago

Mr. Loyalty met Ms. Money.

N2NOther3771d ago

"Microsoft is what happened.

Ever since they entered the console wars they've been ruining everything. Stealing exclusives because they have none, buying good reviews, etc."

I can't believe people think this stuff let alone type it for the world to see.

Ruining everything? What have they ruined? Your dreams? Because games have never been better so I fail to see what and how they ruined ANYTHING.

Stealing exclusives? Are you that much of a man-child that you think business is stealing? And what have they stolen? They've paid for everything...Which is pretty much the OPPOSITE of stealing. (Yes, I get it...It's hyperbolic, fanboy rhetoric and it's ridiculous, stupid and tired).

Buying good reviews? Care to expose some proof of this? Go ahead...I'll keep checking back.

Don't be mad because Sony doesn't have the foresight to be competitive when it comes to their biggest titles.

PAPERCHASER03963771d ago

Microsoft has always been known for aggressive tactics and under-handed or should I say under the table types of business, which in the end will be it's downfall.
Loyalty has always been a key factor in every product consumers purchase and Microsoft does not uphold that loyalty and will abdandon ship every time they feel its sinking like they have many times in the past just wait and see.....

chelcho3771d ago

>> Buying good reviews? Care to expose some proof of his?
>> Go ahead...I'll keep checking back.
Your memory is very week: Halo3 reviewer's bag $800

I agree with you. It's old M$ tactics: to show that Sony is dirty as M$; there is no loyalty, no friends - there is only business.

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Silogon3772d ago

Sony needs to buy more developers and strengthen their stable and get away from supporting 5 FPS a year and 4 MMO's a year and start giving us diversity instead.

Sony didn't lose anything by Square giving FF13 to xbox 360. The game will still come. Now people just has a choice to buy it on 1 blu-ray and probably 1080p quality CGI or 5 dvd's and 1080I CGI quality cut scenes.

All there is to it. Will I buy it? Not a chance. Never did like Square.

power of Green 3771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

Its up to SE, MSFT may convince SE to allow team two to take advantage of the 360's hardware making the 360 version superior(these type of game are not that complex in the first place outside visuals)

SO4 already looks a few leaps ahead of this game visually.

Silogon3771d ago

Oh, I agree. Star ocean blew me away when I seen it. I was shocked and that was when it really hit me the xbox 360 could easily pull off these FF13 supposed graphics everyone was saying ps3 is only capable of.

I agree with that 100%.

Surfman3771d ago

SO4?? Did u see gameplay screens? No. It was all CGI. Come back when u'll see gameplay videos.

cloudman3771d ago

tommrow am going to make a video????

I want peopel to understand and feel what i feel

Madgunner3771d ago

have u seen star ocean 4 gameplay or FF 13 gameplay..... BYE

power of Green 3771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

Yes I have seen gameplay but can also judge by the pics on the internet.

I remember the thread showing the new SO4 pics with hundrends of comments and over a hundred PS3 fanboys rabidly attacking 360 fans saying the SO4 screenshots are CGI they can not be ingame that is impossible. The PS3 fanboys were calling 360 fans idiots for even thinking the screenshots were anything other than CGI.

I'll post these pics I am talking about that had people going crazy

There is an SO4 E3 gameplay trailer on XBL right now that shows were these pics above actually came from.

The game is being tagged as being impressive by the industry with a under-tone of! Most impressive ever; although they don't say that due to the way PS3 fanboys act, Examples: Attacks on GameTrailers and now Square Enix.

juuken3771d ago

PoG, come back to earth please and stop lingering on your second planet.

That's not exactly gameplay. I want to see something in action that relates to gameplay.