Smash Bros. community lists patch changes since Nintendo won’t

The community at Smash Boards took it upon itself to discover what Nintendo changed in the new Smash Bros. patch.

[ColManischewitz]

It's 2015. List patch notes, Nintendo!

[JeffGrubb]

This is one of those things where you can do nothing but shake your head at Nintendo.

[XisThatKid]

I swear it's like Ninty read "How To Piss-Off All Your Online Community Fans In 30 Days or Less for Dummies"
I understand they are always tryin to innovate and redirect their stream of fans in their own way to what they want but seriously Either they really don't give a @#$% what people say or do because "they so paid" or They know their fans will just be ok with this weather they like it or not.
I'm sorry but for someone like me this is unacceptable. Maybe I've been spoiled by years of getting patch notes by other devs that been doing online Infrastructure this whole time and they conditioned me to think this is just basic procedure especially a major online fighting game where the simplest of stat change can make broken characters and mechanics. I just don't see why they wouldn't post this.
Edit: Sorry Double post Vita browser and unstable internet today

[remixx116]

It pisses me off because its so standard

[XisThatKid]

I swear it's like Ninty read "How To Piss-Off All Your Online Community Fans In 30 Days or Less for Dummies"
I understand they are always tryin to innovate and redirect their stream of fans in their own way to what they want but seriously Either they really don't give a @#$% what people say or do because "they so paid" or They know their fans will just be ok with this weather they like it or not.
I'm sorry but for someone like me this is unacceptable. Maybe I've been spoiled by years of getting patch notes by other devs that been doing online Infrastructure this whole time and they conditioned me to think this is just basic procedure especially a major online fighting game where the simplest of stat change can make broken characters and mechanics.

[Relientk77]

They really should, especially because the game has a huge following and many people play it.

The players want to know what's changed

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Nintendo has actually been pushing for the competitive smash scene, its Sakurai who doesn't care about the competitive fans.

[BudokaiGamer]

I can understand why, especially on this site. Bunch of asshats. Even if they did post the entirety of the changes people would still find something to complain about.

[LOL_WUT]

I hope Charizard wasn't nerfed or Wario for the lulz.

I hope they do nerf Ness with that PK Fire/Thunder oh and those fire emblem and xenoblade character ;)

[Nate-Dog]

Pretty much all Fire Emblem characters were at the lowest of the tiers (I think a list was made a few weeks ago in Japan actually, and Lucina and Marth were listed at or around the bottom of the whole Smash 4 roster). I'd say they got a boost.

[Concertoine]

none of those things needed to be nerfed, they're actually pretty easy to counter

[eldingo]

come on nintendo the point of making a patch is telling your customers what you have changed once you have made said changes this stuff should be obvious.

[RJ92009]

Sadly nintendo does not get it at all. I hope one day they get with the times and they better not screwed zelda up for me this might be the last zelda I last one I ever get to play.

[persona4chie]

Lol Nintendo isn't to blame, it's Masahiro Sakurai. It's his game and his patch, he's responsible for the patch notes. #justspillingtruetea

[Dunban67]

Nintendo owns the game and published it
(maybe i am missing your humor too)

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

yes but Nintendo gives directors and producer control of their games. Whether the give details or not.

[persona4chie]

Nintendo being the publisher means nothing. The equivalent to this would be if Santa Monica updated one of the God of War games and didn't add patch notes. People aren't going to say "Sony didn't add patch notes" because they're the publisher, they're going to say "Santa Monica didn't add patch notes."

[Dunban67]

Nintendo still owns/controls and is ultimately responsible for the game as well as any patch-

If Nintendo wanted the patch notes they would be up- period

Nintendo may give alot of leeway to their game directors but they give control to no one- but either way it is still their responsibility

[stragomccloud]

What the heck Nintendo?

[WizzroSupreme]

At least someone got off their butt to do something. Sometimes the game community does make me smile with their diligence. Now if only Nintendo could.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Jesus, people, do you know how long the Smash community has been code digging and testing shit for this series?
Even if Sakurai had gone out of his way to detail everything done, the competitive community would STILL be digging and testing the game from every conceivable angle, just to make sure the changes were real and how said changes interacted with other elements in the game compared to previously.
Hell, if they didn't, the meta game for the characters wouldn't be as rich and deep as it has become, because merely listing percentage changes doesn't tell someone how that affects knockback, whether it's still as escapable as before, if it still interacts with different weight classes of opponents, whether or not the hit boxes have changed in relation to angles, and a whole myriad of things that just basic patch notes wouldn't cover.
There's always gonna be unexpected things happening when new balancing patches roll out, in this game and many others, that patch notes can't predict and likely wouldn't cover.
That in and of itself would keep them testing.
It's practically part of the fun of it for them at this point.

The Smash community does this because they love doing it.
Not because it isn't detailed for them.
This isn't something new, and no amount of detailed patch notes would change the fact that the community would still be testing and experimenting up a storm with every new version.
So quit trying to turn this into a bashing session.
That s#$%'s getting old.

[KryptoniteTail]

Can't believe they nerfed Shiek and won't buff Mario.