The Wii U might be having its last real year of support.
At least we're still getting ... 200cc Mario Kart 8?
One has to ask when will Nintendo bunker down and create a long lasting console? Or console that everybody can get behind not just for for certain people? You bought a Wii U in 2012 only to learn they have yet another console in the works? There goes 300 bucks. Hell what about gamers who bought it last holiday because they showed off Zelda at E3 2014 and hoping it would released this year? No Zelda this year and in fact we're not even gonna mention zelda again until next year or maybe even further. Listen I've been waiting my moment to jump into Nintendo products, but they're...(sigh) They're slowly becoming anti consumer. Making you buy a new machine that'll have limited support. Misleading consumers, Taking your earnings from YT. Well there goes dedicated Nintendo channels made by hardcore Nintendo fans who buy their freakin products to try to convince people like me to go out and get the console... Disagree away but Nintendo seems to be doing anti consumer practices under our noses and controlling and misleading its loyal fans.
"Well there goes dedicated Nintendo channels made by hardcore Nintendo fans who buy their freakin products to try to convince people like me to go out and get the console..." Lets be honest, it has nothing to do with convincing others to get the console. It's all about the stream gaining revenue from views and the owner of said stream getting paid. I don't really agree with what Nintendo have done in regards to YT but that's an entire subject on its own.
Yeah I *bought my Wii U with my tax refund this year. Pretty bummed in general, but I do enjoy the system. Looking forward to replaying Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask when they release them on Virtual Console. Also Xenoblade. It is what it is. I'll make sure I get my money's worth.
Agreed. Made the most last gen, spent the least on teams last gen. Sony made the least out of the 3, yet bought more teams then Nintendo did last gen.... I question what Nintendo really thinks of their fan base because clearly they have money issues going on internally. No reason why some should buy a system in 2012 only to wait til 2016 to get some certain titles. If you own the system...I would question their support, if you don't own their system...hell i would question their future support. Who the hell here wants to buy the next Nintendo system at launch? THEY are creating this "wait til" etc releases mindset amongst consumers. At this point, they've taken soooo long to release content based on not having enough teams and trying to juggle 3DS and Wii U as suppose to just BUYING MORE TEAMS, they've let the lead run out... At this point, what ever releases for the Wii U, its to many consumers a $350 to $300 buy...for 1 game. Consider they can spend that money if they already own a PS4 or XONE on many, many games. SOOOOOO its either Witcher 3, MGSV, Batman Arkham Knight, The Division, Halo 5...I mean the eternal lolz. Soooooo thats about $300 and some change...for all those games or I could just get a Wii U and 1 game. I'm sorry but they make it pretty hard to legit justify ignroing the WHOLE industry JUST for them. That is just a bit too ignorant, naive and arrogant to really think your brand can carry you THAT far. It doesn't help Nintendo gamers either because this is off of their BACKS that they are doing this. Sooooo we are not buying up teams because you'll buy Wii U anyway? Does that sound like they care? MS and Sony bought teams to have great launches and great first years and those teams are helping them dearly right now. I'll get a Wii U next year, likely used and I would have to use my tax return at that to get it. @FullmetalRoyale - lol beat me too it! I see I'm not the only one who is using my tax money on Wii U. Not going out of pocket for it, not buying it this fall...thats PS4 and PC game money lol
Nintendo has done the least amount in gaming in the past two generations. Just scrap it and try again.
You buy a new $800 phone only to have one guaranteed better come out next year.
"You bought a Wii U in 2012 only to learn they have yet another console in the works?" Not entirely true. Back when I bought my Wii U I didn't receive a notification from Nintendo saying they were already producing a new machine. But hey, we still knew that, anyway. Nintendo started production of a new platform in 2012, surely, just like Sony and Microsoft did; it's something natural at this point. Nintendo finally announced the NX thing just recently, and their objective of the announcement was pretty clear, I think, but still you assume that Nintendo plans to abandon the Wii U, which I think it's not so entirely true. Nintendo has already stated that they won't say anything about NX until 2016. Have you considered that the thing could be a handheld, easily? And even if the thing resulted to be a home console launching in late 2016 (which, again, it's highly doubtful), the Wii U will be four years, and remember this: -Worst selling Nintendo console ever. -Nintendo console with less games ever, aside from Virtual Boy. It can be natural to think that Nintendo would like to replace the console next year, but once again, I doubt it. And remember again, Nintendo generations have lasted 5 years. -NES, 7 years. -SNES, 6 years. -N64, 5 years. -NGC, 5 years. -Wii, 6 years. Yet I hear that N64 and NGC are the best Nintendo consoles? About the rest, I think you're being a bit hyperbolic.
They already have created a long lasting console it's call backwards compatible. They don't have paid online and they are not online only consoles. Plus how many broken games have they released. Also some one tried to say nintendo doesn't invest in games... they support Two platforms by themselves. Yet they are anti consumer lol.
2015 is the last real year of support ? 2016 has Legend of Zelda and some kind of Mario game. They stated no Mario game in 2015....which means almost for sure in 2016. The new NX or whatever it is, has nothing to do with 3DS or Wii U. It is it's own thing. * Also, Venture beat is NOT a video games site. Be careful about sites like this.....
The writer, Dean Takahashi, is a respected journalist. If I'm not mistaken, he's the guy that broke the RROD issue with the XBOX 360 that implied Microsoft launched the system broken on purpose.
Who knows if now there will be a Mario game in 2015? After all Nintendo previously said there would be a Legend of Zelda game in 2015 and that's been pushed. Time will tell and we'll see what they do at E3 in a couple of months.
That's ridiculous to say the NX is its own thing. When it launches sales of WiiU will collapse. NX is a 4.6 Tflop console launching in early 2017 in Japan and Xmas 2017 for other major markets. 2016 support will be light. The information about NX/Fusion has been out for a year and AMD confirmed it on a conference call almost 6 months ago. Nintendo has already said the next Mario will be on almost new console, and most people think the Zenda delay is to bring it to the NX. But I Also Disagree With The Guy Saying If You Bought One In 2013 You Wasted $300. A lot of good first party games have come out to give you your $$ worth. In fact WiiU has more 90s meta AAA then Sony and MSFT. I don't own one because I have no friends to play with and my daughter is only 4 months old, but for anyone under 15, 18 or 21 (depending on what you like) or for anyone with kids - it has been a great console.
That's my issue with the Wii U and why I didn't buy one. I'd love to play Mario, Zelda and Xenoblade but that's it. As 25+ I don't have friends come over to play Mario Kart, Mario Party and those Sofa games. With no kids yet I don't need the fun cute games with minimal story line. They need new IPs and more games for mature gamers imo.
e3 will show the future of the wii u. if we don't see much in new announcements then that tells me whatever is in the pipeline is all nintendo is committing to. late 2016 will the end of the wii u and any major software support for it is my guess.
i was going to buy a wiiu this year for Xenoblade x. knowing zelda was not far behind would have made it justifiable. but they pushed back zelda and announced their new console. so now im wondering if its even worthwhile to buy a wiiu for one game, knowing a new console is just around the corner. nintendo have shot themselves in the feet. what i may actually do, is buy xenoblade x and simply put it into storage and hope the new nintendo console is backwards compatible. i already own mario kart 8, so then i will have 2 games for a console i dont even own. i just cant bring myself to buy a wiiu, it really is a worthless console.
I honestly advise you to give the games another look. I own 20 games for my Wii U, more than any other console I own. I do understand that a lot of the games on the Wii U do not appeal to everyone, but I'm certain that you'll find something that will make the Wii U worth a shot!
No console is worthless. WiiU included. They all are worth owning if your are serious about gaming. How anyone could wait years to play one of the highest rated RPG series is beyond my comprehension. I seriously wonder what is wrong with you sometimes.
If Nintendo plays it's cards right with the NX it could be the next Wii, but for the every day gamer. Imagine the NX co-existing with the Wii U & 3DS. The NX could be a Wii U & 3DS hybrid with backwards compatibility for Wii U, Wii, GC, DS, 3DS, & New 3DS games. The system will out power the PS4 and will come with a standard controller. Imagine I Nintendo console that can every Nintendo made and has the power for 3rd party companies. Unaffordable!!!
I think 2014 was WiiU's peak year. Nothing is coming this year, that could beat Smash and Kart combo.
The nx confirmation was only to stop news stories like this. Two things it is not designed to replace 3ds or wiiu and they are still dedicated to consoles development. If you want to entertain that the nx is a wiiu replacement then it will scale back to the wiiu. Iwata also talked about making one game that runs on all systems instead of what they do now. So you can say the wiiu will get support since it will scale possible nx games in a similar way that 360 and ps3 games are the budget version of hyped games. So this could very well be nintendo way of supporting the wiiu the way Sony supported the ps2 and 3. Plus indies have the dev kits and I don't think a system without multi console ports scares them much. Indies become triple A over time. It is still possible for Nintendo or a 3rd party to make a game you want. The detriment found here is due to lack of announced hype and a general lack of content across all consoles. There are also no internal signs that this is happening. Api still has planned updates and improvements are still on the way. I guess some one had to write an article for the jaded gamers and wishful nx powerhouse dreamers that believe it is supposed to be a ps5 clone. It's just more convenient to ignore the wiiu and just hope you didn't miss out on anything. I'm sure when some games come out you can swap out a console for a wiiu and get your fix.
I think this could be good for Nintendo.
What would be really interesting is if they actually launched a console that was a technical powerhouse rather than something that is below par with current consoles. Last time that really happened was with the SNES and that was epic.
Actually the Sega Genesis was considered to be more powerful than SNES of the early 1990's.
You have it wrong way around, only thing the Genesis had over the SNES was the CPU clock speed. Literally everything else was in favour of the SNES.
They did, it was called Gamecube and although it was a fine piece of equipment it sold poorly. It was beaten hands down by the weakest console of that generation and the best selling console of all time, Playstation 2. The last console generation was also won by the weakest console, Wii. It's about mass appeal, hot games and public awareness. PS4 is in...it's hot. People don't even know Wii U exists, even though it has some of Nintendo's finest games. There is barely anything for 2016 announced. 2 hold over games and only 1 on home console. Wii U is on year 3 already. You can bet they will move on after 2016, but that is still more than a year and a half away. As long as they can say 2012-2017 (even if it's early in the year) I'm sure they will deem that good enough.
It did not have blast processing! And Nintendont does not do what Sega could.. But sadly it seems that Nintendo will soon go the way of Sega when it comes to console hardware unless they can release something other the Mario, Zelda, Star Fox, Metroide and all the other obscure Nintendo games that have been rehashed since the days of NES & SNES. Something new for a change. Sega may not be in the console business anymore but they have very strong software line-ups and are not afraid to try new things even if they are not very popular state side.
I totally agree with this I mean Iwata himself publicly stated that the Wii U is at best seen as a secondary console not to mention the early NX reveal which we'll get more info on next year. I think that in order for the NX to succeed there needs to be a new management in place one that isn't driven by old tradition and backward thinking just my opinion ;)
"It’s common for a company to announce a console a year or two before it comes out, but it is strange to see one unveiled when its predecessor is still relatively young." I brought this point up in another article. It's common knowledge that every company starts to R&D or work on the next new thing. But no company announces this fact so soon and while their current console is still on the market only two years in. This is pretty much why I have been hesitant in getting a WiiU. I don't want to pick one up and then at E3 Nintendo announces a new console for 2016. Yes, Nintendo would not want to repeat a Sega Saturn error but with the WiiU not selling well at all, wouldn't Nintendo want to cut their loses and start over with a new machine to try and re-vamp consumer interest in their brand?
They probably do want to cut their losses, but how many times now has Nintendo showed that they aren't in touch with the market as a whole? For so long, they have lived off the rabid support of their fan base, but it seems that even Nintendo diehards have been speaking out lately. People used to say Sony was arrogant, and that resulted in different issues for them. Well no console has ever been better off by not getting heavy third party support. At what point is Nintendo being arrogant? If they release a new console too soon, and they make the same mistakes yet again, I fear what kind of repercussions could be in order for their standing in the industry. There's just too much happening, and there's a weird feeling swirling around their world.
Well, considering they said they won't be revealing any information on the NX until next year, seeing it at E3 this year won't be something to worry about.
A new console wont magically fix Nintendo's problems right now. If Nintendo doesnt evolve their marketing, console design, and image, then they will be right back where they were with the Wii U. The Wii U got off on the wrong foot and never really recovered. Nintendo cant afford another false start.
pretty sure his final point will be made null when E3 comes around. He forgets that Wii U is nintendo's hardcore system and they know that platform is the best place to reveal wii U announcements.
So, "Just wait for E3" is your response?
Well... yeah. Nintendos vast majority of big drops are typically reserved for E3. Right now everyone has a new 3ds so they spent much of the nintendo direct on 3ds news. Doesn't mean they are abandoning wii U. I mean... nintendo hinted at Wii U in 2010. The timing is not outlandish. Author is basically assuming because wii U news is sparce that that means Nintendo is abandoning the console. It's just silly.
OMG...this entire article and thread hurts me...people are dense, I know that, but do people really not understand how this works?
Please enlighten us.
I'll go by the points in the article. "Announcing the future to distract us from the present" - When a console comes out there is immediate work on the successor...this is common sense! Sony and MS are both working on new consoles already, unless they are done with the console market. The NX was announced literally just so people know they didn't give up on consoles and then we still won't know anything about it until next year. And with Nintendo, they usually give a solid announcement about 2 years before they release it. So we won't see it until, the earliest, 2017. That's a full console life. 5-7 years is the common life of a Nintendo console. If they were giving up on it, they wouldn't continue to support it. "The strategic delay of Zelda" - It's a delay...many games get delayed...plus, they are pulling it out of their ass that since Twilight Princess released cross-platform that the new Zelda title will. It may be true, it may not. And if anyone say the demo footage for the game they should know that there needs to be a lot of work done to the game. It was empty. We don't think Sony is going under because Uncharted is getting delayed do we? They may have the most selling console out right now, but that doesn't mean that their gaming division isn't struggling and are actually at a loss, I believe, still. Don't quote me on that, but I do believe they are. "The lack of announcements during the latest Nintendo Direct" - This is just stupid. How many Nintendo Directs have actually announced an arse load of new games? Probably 1 or 2. E3 is around the corner, why would you blow all of your biggest info in a direct video? It's just asinine to think that they have to announce new games every Direct. The article says, "they didn't announce a single Wii U game." Well no shit! They didn't announce any 3DS games either! But they did show us Shin Megami X Fire Emblem, you know, the game that everyone thought was dead and is really anticipated? And in the Japanese direct they talked about Xenoblade X some more with it's release over there coming up. The point is, it's Venture Beat...
"Sony and MS are both working on new consoles already, unless they are done with the console market.' Yes, but when has Sony and MS ever officially announced to the public that they were doing this 2 years into their current consoles life cycle. Companies including Nintendo never announce a new console until their current one is almost fully buried. WiiU, PS4 and X1 were not officially announced until near the 7/8th year of their respected console cycle. "The NX was announced literally just so people know they didn't give up on consoles..." Who said Nintendo was going to give up on consoles? And why would they need to announce this when their WiiU is two years old? ""The strategic delay of Zelda" - It's a delay...many games get delayed." I agree, but when you see Zelda's producer and Miyamoto talking to each other while playing the game in one of the Nintendo directs it does seem like the game was just in a polish only state and could have made it for release this year. Also it's not to far overblown of a theory to compare what happened with Twilight to this new Zelda. But yes, all games get delayed. "The lack of announcements during the latest Nintendo Direct" I agree with your third paragraph, no use in blowing your whole load when E3 is just right around the corner. Especially since they did show Shin Megami X Fire Emblem too. In closing I find it a little disheartening and I become hesitant to pick up a WiiU when I hear Nintendo is working on their next console two years in. Nintendo announcing that they are working on NX didn't confirm (IMO) that they are still in the console business, all it did confirm is that they know the WiiU isn't successful and they are letting people know that they are trying to correct this mistake and fast by making a new console for the public.
That makes some sense, but the console turns 3 this year. So it doesn't surprise me that we won't get NX for maybe 3 more years. And during the conference with Nintendo and DeNA Iwata stated that they "announced" the NX just so people wouldn't think they are abandoning consoles. That's literally what he said. Remember when it actually happened? Everyone thought they were jumping ship to put everything on Mobile, and we know that isn't true either. He also said that we will hear more about it next year. When the "Revolution" was shown off at E3, we had to wait 2 more years before it was available. Same with the Gamecube. And they know the Wii U isn't where they want it to be, but they aren't hurting for it or they would do more work with advertising and what not. They are a little behind when it comes to management practices. When the Wii U was just coming out, Nintendo had a few Iwata Asks about the Wii U. Production started a short while after the Wii came out. I know when you say that you are worried they are working on it 2 years into it's life makes you feel uncomfortable. The truth is all the console manufacturers are doing the same thing. Obviously, I'm a huge fan of Nintendo and their games. I try not to have a bias towards them. The company isn't going to do anything different than what they already do. I do hope that they change some business practices, but other than that I still love their products. Wii U is going to live a full life, just like the "unpopular" Gamecube did. (I say unpopular because everyone hated at the time, but now everyone says they loved it and had one of them) I think E3 is going to be great for them again, and there is some good things happening. I just wish people would try out things without have previous bias against them. I'm out of bubbles, but this was probably the first real conversation I think I've had with anyone on N4G...respect!
"NX didn't confirm (IMO) that they are still in the console business, all it did confirm is that they know the WiiU isn't successful and they are letting people know that they are trying to correct this mistake and fast by making a new console for the public." Statements like this make me wonder why people are even commenting on the system when theyre clearly not fully informed. http://n4g.com/news/1693842... It was announced following the mobile briefing. It has been stated, several times by the president of Nintendo that this was to assure fans they arent leaving dedicated game hardware. In the past Iwata said they wont move on from wii u until owners are satisfied. He then said no news about the NX will appear at all until next year. Which, looking at the timing of the past two consoles, means it wont come out until 2017 at the earliest. This is consistent with the average nintendo console's lifespan (only NES and Wii lasted longer at 6 years) The funny thing is, if they didnt confirm they were making another console, people wouldve still freaked out and said theyre abandoning consoles instead. Even then wouldnt it be far more likely that the NX is a 3ds successor, not a wii u one? The 3ds has been out for 4 years, will be 6 by 2017 which gives it about the same lifespan as the ds.
I like the Wii U and hope they aren't giving up on it. If anything I just hope they make it more usable to operate without the gamepad. (some other controller) The damn gamepad is what kills it for me. Its just too clunky and uncomfortable to use in my opinion. Bought Mario 64 last night, but after about an hour I had to put it down because it just wasn't the same without the classic controller. Ill probably get another controller to use, but the gamepad is such a major component of using the system - it just stinks how awkward it is.
The public gave up on Wii U, not Nintendo. Nintendo is only going what is required of them as a business with investors...move on and create something new that people (hopefully) will like better.
Here we go again
The fact that it was an ancillary build upon its former console, especially in name, should have been telling. It's sort of like the New 3DS...an improvement, but a marginal one at best. I'd really love to see Nintendo produce something with a bit more staying power, something third party developers put just as much focus into as they do with the PS4/XBO. Getting these trimmed versions of games, or uniquely tacked-on features, is really harming how the company is perceived. When I play the WiiU, I play the exclusive Nintendo-made games because they are fun. That said, they simply don't release enough exclusive games to justify the purchase, and I'm certainly not buying the likes of Batman, Call of Duty, and more, on a Nintendo platform that has an incredibly convoluted online system and lack of features.
Nintendo WiiU will shine at E3....
No, it really won't. Wii U is all but dead, nothing can change that now.
How is that again? As far as I'm concerned they're just following their five year cycle.
WiiU isn't dead its a console with less game releases but with higher quality,WiiU is a 1st/2nd party console with exclusive 3rd party content,ps4/xbox1 are 3rd party consoles with less 1st party support that's the picture WiiU is selling less due to less marketing and almost zero 3rd party support.
I highly doubt the Wii U will be replaced this early on, but it's not like a short console life cycle is a shocking thing, Xbox had a 4 year life span before the 360 came out, N64/PS1 had 4-5 years before the Gamecube/PS2 came out. The way too long seventh generation of consoles now gives us expectations of an 8+ year life cycle, but it's gonna be more like 5-6 now.
Nintendo's dead. Long live Nintendo.
That's... a counter intuitive statement.
Shame that Nintendo did such a poor job in designing the Wii U. Like the Wii before it, they designed a feature-lacking, low spec console, threw in a mediocre gimmick, and hoped the suckers would buy it. Too many people were burned by the crappy Wii, and weren't going to be fooled again. I could have predicted this disaster, as could many others. But Nintendo was arrogant and stubborn, and they ultimately failed, this generation.
I'm sad to say I was one of those suckers. Fool me once Nintendo shame on you, fool me twice.. well, I'll probably get fooled again. I agree the biggest turn off at this point are the mediocre gimmicks. Just pack a good, competitive console with one remote (two if they're willing to bring that magic back) and that's it! Goddamn Nintendo get your head out of your ass. Management is just so dense, I don't think they're capable of turning this mess around to the days of old.
No. They have a pretty heavy investment in the Amiibos and related games. They're going to coast for at least one more year on the Wii U then we'll see the NX announcement in 2016 with the release in 2017.
Here's a quick history of Wii U's hardware development timeline: note: all the info is taken from Iwata Asks and/or statements made on separate occasions from Iwata/Miyamoto - Wii U is conceived in 2008. Early discussion on the console's direction was underway - By April 2009, Nintendo's engineering team was designing Wii U's basic structure and had settled early on in wanting to use an MCM design and have the system positioned horizontally and making low-power consumption a priority. The team performed thorough tests, analyzing for defects and provided feedback to the manufacturer - After Wii Sports released in mid 2009, EAD was experimenting with two-screen gameplay concept by assembling a touchscreen display attached to a Wii remote inside a Wii zapper peripheral. A second crude prototype - one that resembled the basic shape of the GamePad's basic appearance was made. Asymmetric gameplay experiments using the second prototype controller for the GamePad eventually led to the initial concept behind Nintendo Land, but this was before Nintendo had made any concrete decisions of what Wii U would end up being like. - By 2010, launch software for Wii U was underway. These projects would be used later on to provide E3 tech demos in June 2011. - By 2010, development on Pikmin 3 was far along, but Miyamoto had decided at some point to move the project over to Wii U. Iwata would eventually announce the game for Wii U at E3 2011 in name only. - Prior to E3 2011, rumors were spreading about Nintendo's new home console. It's codename, Project Cafe, was leaked and its controller was said to include a touchscreen. - Third party devs like Virgil Games, revealed that it was in possession of its Wii U dev kit back in early 2011. The dev kit controller it was given resembles a large, clunky Gameboy. The GamePad controller revealed at E3 2011 in June, was not the same controller it was given earlier in that year. In fact, it had not seen that controller until Nintendo revealed it it to the public. - At E3 in June 2011, Nintendo revealed Wii U's name and the first look at the prototype GamePad that used circle pads on it and console box. However, some features were not yet included such as the NFC tech while the built-in camera was not completed until Summer-Fall 2011. - By July, Virgil Games was in possession of a 2nd party dev kit. Virgil stated that Wii U's hardware power was basically on parr with Xbox 360 and PS3's, but due to the nature of dev kits, they could not confirm if it would become more powerful in future released dev kits. - In January 2012, Iwata publicly announced that the GamePad would support NFC technology, but the development team did not expect Iwata to reveal this news since development was behind schedule. Fortunately, the dev team was able to add in the NFC device in time for its reveal at E3 2012 in June. However, it was not shown to be working, so it could have just been for appearances only. Pokemon Rumble U was the first game to use NFC in 2013 followed by Amiibo in 2014. - At E3 in June 2012, Nintendo revealed the near finalized version of the GamePad. It featured various improvements such as analog sticks added, NFC added, lighter weight, enhanced ergonomically design and changed positions of buttons. - Around June 2012, third parties were in possession of final dev kits that were tagged as "mass production units." - By September 2012, Nintendo revealed Wii U's pricing, two SKUS and launch date. - The Wii U launched in November 2012.
Glad I jumped ship when I did. It was a decent console but there are so few games for it that I actually want to play (that weren't delayed until who knows when) that made me reconsider my investment and swap it out will the swapping was still good. Really wanted to give Ninty another chance with the Wii U but my joy was outweighed by disappointment way too quickly. Maybe next time, provided they make a console that can compete spec-wise with the competition and no hokey gimmick controller. Something like the Wii U Pro controller and a powerhouse of a console (with much better 3rd party support) is what it will take to bring me back. If they could also get with the times a bit more regarding online, social media and Youtube that would be great.
It is completely understandable why some people are disappointed by Wii U's software library. Despite how many good games it does have, and will receive later this year, there's still a lack of games overall and software diversity remains an issue. I love my Wii U, currently more than my PS4, but if someone only wants to own just one console, then it's hard to recommend a Wii U if your not really into most of Nintendo's franchises. Unfortunately, Nintendo has shown no indication of wanting to try to compete directly against Sony and Microsoft. Even in the face of Wii U's failure, Iwata and Miyamoto remain adamant about wanting to continue to differentiate Nintendo hardware from Sony and Microsoft's with unique features and playing to their strengths which sadly does not cater much to third party interests. Nintendo is focusing on what it wants and how it can position itself to carry the weight of its platforms without assuming third parties will be. The unified architectural strategy, at least from what Nintendo has described it, is just one of the hardware design pillars that benefits Nintendo much more than what third parties will likely get out of it.
This is what happens when you don't have the biggest third party titles. Maybe NX will be awesome
They aren't abandoning the Wii U since NX is the codename for New Wii U.
The lack of common sense in both the article and this thread, is absolutely staggering. Nintendo announced that they were working on a new console, because they didn't want idiots to interpret their mobile plans as a move away from hardware! And Zelda's delay was because they're expanding and further improving it, not because they're moving it to the NX! HELL, THEY'RE STILL CALLING IT "ZELDA FOR Wii U"! Holy f&%#, people, quit wishing death on the Wii U. You're wasting bubbles on idiotic assumptions!
They aren't giving up on the wii u! Amiibos are flying off the shelves, people are using them for super smash bros, there are great games out right now, the price is excellent, Zelda right around the corner... Nintendo are doing their own thing, they will be fine. I own both an xbox one and a wii u and I play them both regularly. People complain about the lack of games, but I don't understand that. I have more games for the wii u than the xbox one and not because the wii u came out first, it is because the wii u has more games that I wanted to buy. New SMB U, mario kart 8, super smash bros, zelda windwaker hd, mario 3d world, super luigi, nintendo land, batman arkham city armored edition, and a few others. For the xbox one, I have Halo masterchief collection, call of duty ghosts, and assassin's creed black flag & unity because they came with the console. Like I said, I love both consoles, but I don't understand what people are complaining about the lack of games for the wii u. If anything, I complain about the lack of games for the xbox one because nintendo has waaay more exclusive franchises than xbox one. Only ONE of the wii u games I own is on other consoles and that is batman, the rest are all nintendo exclusives. Only ONE of the games I own on the xbox one is xbox exclusive and that is Halo. So please explain to me again how the wii u lacks games?
It's not the lack of games for me, they do have plenty of games. It's a matter of games I actually want to play that was the problem for me. Different strokes for different folks certainly applies here but for me there just was not enough to justify keeping the console. And not to be a d*ck but Zelda is not right around the corner, it has been delayed until at least 2016 with not so much as a specific month mentioned, I'm guessing holiday season to boost sales at earliest. Right around the corner would point to summer/fall of 2015 in my opinion.
This is ridiculous. Nintendo specifically said in the press release that they would be giving more information on NX NEXT YEAR!!!!! What makes you think that they are going to release it Holiday 2016? That is a totally unrealistic expectation. Also, console cycles are usually about 5 years in length and new consoles are usually talked no more than two years in advance. Well guess what? The Wii U is almost three years old which means announcement of development of a new console. That does not, however, mean that the old console is being phased out immediately. Secondly, why on earth would they even want to delay Zelda to the NX? It's already running well enough on the Wii U for them to have a presentation at the Game Awards last year. Granted it clearly needed more work, but the fact that they showed it off means they were confident in their work to flaunt it. Why would they want to scrap it and change all of the coding over to an entirely new architecture?! It's a complete waste of resources! Gah, the lack of common sense in this article is so infuriating. Lastly, if Nintendo were going to announce big time games in a Nintendo Direct, they wouldn't do it in April. They would do it in January or February, which is exactly what they did. Under what reasoning does the idea of announcing any of your E3 games two months before E3 make any sense? January and February are the early months for new game announcements, and all of the other games get announced in June due to the existence of E3. If you actually use some logic instead of assuming that they don't have anything, despite what they have been telling people all year, then maybe you would have seen that.
I don't know if I have ever seen someone read so much into so little. Are they working on a new console? yes, all three companies are. Did Nintendo state it outright? Yes but with all the rumors that Nintendo was not going to stay in hardware can you blame them for giving something to let people know they are wrong? It wasn't really even an announcement as I see an announcement being something big that usually happens at E3 or something, not a little side note like this was. Zelda got Delayed (like almost every console Zelda in history) which isn't surprising. If a game delay means a system is losing support then I guess the PS2, PS3 were considered dead when Last Guardian got delayed (maybe PS4 is on it's way out too since LG hasn't even been confirmed for it yet right?). The last Direct had no info? Lol, it was one of the largest Directs in the history of Directs. Usually the directs of the past are them just going over games they already announced, rarely giving anything really new to us. SMT x FE which many thought was cancelled had a trailer, Fire Emblem, Splatton, Mario Maker etc all got release dates. Smash updates were detailed, N64 games on Wii U, more Amiibos, Mario Kart DLC etc. If these are signs of Nintendo getting rid of Wii U then the following are signs of SOny quitting on PS4: Last Guardian not announced. Not many new IP, just lots of remakes. Never had any information given in a Sony Direct.
The wii u makes more money than the PS4.
Easy to find the signs when you are looking for said signs with special goggles on.
How quickly they turn. It seems Nintendo fans are like Domino's knock the first one down and the rest shall follow. I don't know why folks jump to conclusions. As long as I can remember as soon as Nintendo finishes one system they go to work on a new one. Another thing look at when Zelda Wii U was announced. Still not here. Okay concerning this article not the best example. Here's another point. When was the last time a new Nintendo console launched without the last one not being close to $100??? Understand that Nintendo wants to follow Apple's model. They want a common thread with their new systems. I bet you this if, an NX is released another will be released a couple of years later like iPhones. Okay I flip flopped a little after I thought a bit more on the matter. Thinking about following Apples lead they may have a step up Wii U like the New 3DS. If, you do see a new system expect more quickly than every 5 years. Making a more powerful system won't fix all. They still need better relations with Publishers. If, XBOX ONE and PS4 were just now releasing things would have been a little different. Instead just like when a woman is dumped for someone hotter. Expect good big things from Nintendo. They have a new big headquarters with less boundaries between divisions. One thing to ponder how many times has a Nintendo console been truly maxed out?
Why on earth does people think that nintendo is the only company working on a new console? You really think sony and microsoft are just crossing their arms and waiting for you guys to enjoy the most of your ps4 and xbox one for a longer time? I guess its safe to say, that we all know, that all 3 companys are working on a new console alredy, Nintendo was just the 1 one to say it, dont expect the ps4-xbox one to outlive the wii u for more than 1 year.