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Response: Mass Effect is not the Game To Focus on Transgender Issues

Is the Mass Effect universe really ready for a transgender character or would it even matter?

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DougLord3456d ago

Any game that FOCUSES on transgender issues should be a small, indie project. If its a AAA title - even a mega star title like GTA or Halo - its going to be such a failure, it could end the series (maybe DLC for Saints Row would work) The appeal will be limited. I'm not saying only LBGT people would play it or that only bigots would refuse to play it. I'm just saying if transgender is the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th .... most important focus of the game, its very likely the game wont resonate. If a NPC happens to be transgender - fine, as long as they don't shove it in your face (like a Miami drag queen), or as long as dealing with that NPC is limited and/or optional. And I think making the enemy a flamboyant transsexual could be seen as incredibly bigoted - unless the entire dev team is LBGT and they are doing it in a satirical manner. Unfortunately, a successful LBGT themed game is would likely be one that is incredibly bigoted - much like highschool massacre or hentai rape games.

Christopher3456d ago

Glad you're here to tell us the dos and don'ts of game development.

madjedi3455d ago

It's not that it should only be a indie game, it's that most publisher aren't taking a chance to lose 50+ million dollars on a product.

That is more interested in pushing a political or social agenda than is making a sizeable return on their investment.

Activemessiah3456d ago (Edited 3456d ago )

Can we... focus on games issues? like... good games or at least the lack of them?... or ones that WORK without 14 patches!?

Godz Kastro3456d ago

Please, id rather keep these issues out of gaming. This is my escape from the real world.

GetSomeLoGiK3456d ago

It isn't. Being forced to be transgender is an incredibly dumb idea in the Mass Effect series since you create your character to how you like it not how the developer likes it. Sure, you had to be a man in ME1 and 2 but it didn't really change much, you still sympathized with Shepard and you still felt like you were Shepard. As any game that features a female protagonist, you can still feel like you are her despite being the opposite gender. In ME3 you could be a woman but it did nothing to the story, just made it more immersive to women.

Honestly I don't care if they made it a option to be transgender, I would really care if they forced it because you are forcing your views onto the player. Being transgender especially in Mass Effect where there are aliens would be a common thing that no one would care by that time. There is no point.

cogniveritas3456d ago

When I played Saints Row 3, I went to the surgeon and changed my gender mid game. I was transgender and no one noticed.... But seriously it would have been funny if someone commented, or a boss taunted me because of it to send my character into aggro, but the game is super gender neutral anyway.

wwarren193456d ago

"Sure, you had to be a man in ME1 and 2 but it didn't really change much". What the hell are you talking about? You could be male or female through the whole trilogy. The only thing that changed in ME3 was the inclusion of same sex relationships and gay characters.

Articuno763456d ago (Edited 3456d ago )

It doesn't really make sense to tackle transgenderism in Mass Effect as it's set in the future where transgenderism would be considered pretty commonplace. It's a universe where humans have moved on to struggling with inter-species relations. The real question you could ask is, if Mass Effect is supposed to be set in a convincing future why aren't we seeing more transgenderism in it's universe already? And wouldn't including more of it make the game's world more convincing?

Nwah3456d ago

I don't follow your logic. Why would the fact that it's in the future mean that we would be seeing more transgenderism?

Articuno763456d ago

Well think about it like this: Generally acceptance of various norms progresses over time. So things that were once shocking would become societal norms.

Think about the visibility of gay people for instance. Always been there, but more visible (open) in a society that's progressed towards just accepting them as just another norm.

Now jump forward a few hundred years into Mass Effects' future after there's been a lot of social progress. In that kind of world it make sense that many norms such as transgenderism would become more visible within society in line with the spread of acceptance.

Humans struggling with inter-species relations are unlikely to still have hang-ups with transgender people, and as such there's going to be less "closeted" transgender people.

rainslacker3455d ago

@Articuno

Think you misunderstand the meaning of what a societal norm is. A norm is something that is commonplace enough that it is generally prevalent, practiced, or believed throughout the society/culture.

I think what you're trying to say is that the idea of it would become more tolerated or accepted. Much like how homosexuality has become more tolerated/accepted in the past few years, so will transgenderism be more accepted or tolerated within the next few, as you indicate in your 2nd paragraph.

A few hundred years from now it's hard to say how society will think about these things. In Roman times, homosexuality or bisexuality was perfectly acceptable, and there were even special terms for different things officially sanctioned by the government, and there were laws on what was acceptable and what wasn't(typically involving age, rank, and societal position) yet over time, it became taboo...likely due to strong religious influence.

In ME3, it made it apparent that homosexuality was acceptable though, but the idea of it seemed to be something more akin to today's handling of it, where many of us know at least one gay person, and find them to be a normal person(because they are), so can think of them as a person, and not a homosexual.

Otherwise, I imagine a few hundred years from now, the debate will still be going on, as these kinds of traditionalism/liberal/conserv ative issues tend to ebb and flow as the years progress.

All that being said, I don't think ME is the place to really explore the topic of transgenderism. The series writing isn't sophisticated enough to really handle it with any sort of meaningful discourse, and overall, the series has never been about gender politics or sexual preference. Those things were merely choices for the player to make, and rarely made a difference to the actual main storyline, and in most cases had very little bearing on character development.

Now with that being said, I don't care if ME gives the choice or not. I don't think giving the choice is focusing on an issue, nor is giving a choice forcing something on someone...choice by definition is the act of not forcing(barring those crappy consequence choice scenarios which this isn't).

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Dragon Age Director Says Anthem Taught BioWare To Focus Only On "What You're Good At"

Dragon Age: The Veilguard's creative director has recently claimed in an interview that Anthem taught BioWare to focus only on its strengths.

TheNamelessOne44d ago

Let's hope so, because I'm pretty sure they're one more stinker away from being canned by EA.

RaidenBlack43d ago

2 stinkers
They are already working in the next Mass Effect.
And both Dragon Age and Mass Effect are valuable IPs ... EA aint selling those IPs. So, if EA cans Bioware, who'll make those after?
Yes, if EA outsources, like Dragon Age to Larian, then that's justifiable but keeping an internal RPG studio is more viable.

Willbo4742d ago

Sad thing is, EA was the beginning of Bioware's woes. When EA made Bioware move away from it's traditional rpg model towards an action/adventure model, it hurt Bioware as a developer, and let's not even get started on how EA rushes releases. They've wrecked EVERY developer they have touched

Lightning7744d ago

y'all were good at Jade Empire 2 back then. More Jade Empire please. Though it'll probably be a LS. At this point IDC just bring it back.

TricksterArrow43d ago

Too bad most of the talent that made BioWare’s strengths, already left.

anast43d ago

Brought to us by the same people that said it was exciting to only focus on gameplay while they were hyping up Anthem. So, this could mean that they dropped the ball on Dragon Age. I mean, the art looks like Fortnite and the quick banter of a Disney action movie doesn't really say "Dragon Age."

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH43d ago

The thing about Anthem is the game had a good foundation. To this day I haven’t played a mech suit game with better flying mechanics. It’s everything else in Anthem that sucked.

Michiel198943d ago

thank god they released that EA access thing at the time for anthem, so we only had to waste 3.50 for the game instead of 60, good guy EA thinking of their consumers for once.

The flying/combat was actually really fun, but as you said everything else was really bad. the gameplay loop, the gear, loading, the open world was empty and that story hub was one of the most terrible hubs I have ever seen.

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Insulting Its Own Legacy To Promote Dragon Age: The Veilguard, BioWare's Lost It

Hanzala from eXputer inquires, "If Dragon Age: The Veilguard needs BioWare to degrade its own works just to promote it, what does that tell you about the game's quality?"

Daeloki58d ago

Damn, people really need to calm down. Every Dragon Age game has been wildly different from each other, there is no singular version of what it used to be... Back when DA2 came out, people complained and compared to DAO, but still played the game. When DAI came out, they complained and compared to DAO and DA2, and still played the game. I know, I've been there. I complained about DA2 and DAI, but I still played them and I still enjoyed them. All 3 first games were vastly different, and I count them all among some of my favourite games. We've seen very little so far, it's much too early to be this dramatic about it.

just_looken57d ago

What we know/seen is dragon age 4 for through over 3 overhauls have entire teams leave all the original bioware member's leave and now we have a game that decided to redo all the known designs of every enemy.

This thing its going to be saints row reboot and or anthem/redfall/me4

You should watch the netflix dragon age that made it cannon da3 ending is that inquisition gone everyone split up and or is dead why? we need that dei clipboard paycheck.

https://www.koveras.net/ind...

https://gamerant.com/dragon...

https://stlawyers.ca/blog-n...

Daeloki57d ago

I watched the netflix show, not that I see what it has to do with anything? We already know we get to set our own world order for our game. There is an "official" canon that is separate from each players personal canon. This is nothing new.

As for the rest of your comment, that is purely speculation (I think, consider proofreading before hitting send).

just_looken57d ago

@Daeloki

" watched the netflix show, not that I see what it has to do with anything?"

If you actually watched the show you would know at the end the item they have is in vanguard gameplay the part they climb the steps.

Also in the anime da3 charecters appear it shows one of the end of the games dlc which is cannon because again da4 starts after the anime.

Not to mention your talking about dragon age keep that has not worked for 8 years on pc and sits dead not updated sense da 3.

Just like mass effect 4 they have not shown any interest in porting over old data from the keep.

Now everyone mass down vote yell i am a liar with 0 evidence sense no doubt no one on here has ever played the games or used the keep in the last 5 years.

Daeloki57d ago

"If you actually watched the show you would know at the end the item they have is in vanguard gameplay the part they climb the steps."

Ok, so that item will be relevant to the plot. I still don't see what that has to do with my original comment?

"Also in the anime da3 charecters appear it shows one of the end of the games dlc which is cannon because again da4 starts after the anime."

So? You realize Dragon age has had books and comics before too? There is an official established canon for publishewd media like that, and then there is the canon we players determine in the game. These are separate canons.

"Not to mention your talking about dragon age keep that has not worked for 8 years on pc and sits dead not updated sense da 3."

Nowhere did I mention Keep, I said we get to set our own world order, they've confirmed that this is part of the character creation. But since you brought up keep not working, it worked just fine for console less than a month ago when I started a new Inquisition playtrough. Can't say for PC though.

jznrpg57d ago

2 was janky. I enjoyed 3 buts it’s failed MMO roots showed. 1 is still the best

just_looken57d ago

I prefer number 3 combat but number one had the best character's choices its to bad that game is abandon ware now.

Its a pain to get running without crashing has 0 controller support and the mouse/keyboard controls are barbaric.

We need a collection like they did with mass effect.

bababooiy58d ago

Similar thing happened with SaintsRow and look how that turned out. To be fair we are seeing this happen in other industries as well. This is what diversity hiring gets you, people that hate gaming and only ended up in the industry for the money.

swedishMeatwad57d ago

Wow, everything can be blamed on diversity hiring... "the problem with the world today"

just_looken57d ago

wow 12 dislikes on a comment that actual devs of the game agreed on
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

But the mega cult is getting trump into power again so i should not be surprised saint row reboot has a fanbase.

EternalTitan58d ago

Legacy?
I can hear the fans being insulted and being told that this is no longer a product for their audience.

RiseNShine58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

I can't think of anything more dumb than insulting past games legacy to promote your new game, even more when they were among the best CRPGs ever. The game has to be in really bad shape if they want to promote it that way.

CrimsonWing6958d ago (Edited 58d ago )

So, he insulted the legacy by stating better combat in this than previous entries, better story telling with a bigger focus on narrative than prior entries, more intricate character designs, which he claims were limited in the past to make cosplay “easier,” is “insulting” the legacy?

Ive seen so much sh*t talking about DA2 and Inquisition that it weirds me out to see people now defending those games. I, personally, thought the gameplay trailer looked great… while the initial teaser, not so much. I’ll wait for the game to come out and see if it’s “better” than the previous entries, but people need to calm the f*ck down over this. He’s just claiming improvements they’ve focused on that I’m pretty sure stemmed from consumer criticism in the first place.

jznrpg57d ago

I liked Inquisition but 2 was not very good. I have no idea about this game yet I haven’t played it

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BioWare Could be Working on More than Just Dragon Age Dreadwolf and Mass Effect 4

Earlier this year, BioWare was hit with layoffs as part of a downsizing of parent company Electronic Arts, but fans have been reassured that the next Mass Effect game hasn’t been impacted. Likewise, Dragon Age: Dreadwolf’s development is still churning along, with BioWare putting it at the forefront of its focus and rumors suggesting that it could launch sometime later this year. Fans might be getting another look at the long-in-development Dragon Age: Dreadwolf at the Summer Game Fest in June.

If the recently posted job offering for a temporary development manager is any indication, BioWare could have yet another surprise up its sleeve for when Mass Effect 4 and Dragon Age: Dreadwolf are nearing completion. This mystery BioWare video game could truly be anything, from another spin-off of its two major properties to something entirely new. All there is to go on at the moment is a vague mention in the job posting, and it might still be some time before BioWare is ready to confirm any new games in its pipeline.

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just_looken176d ago

So a studio that spent years on anthem then this dragon age thing is now also working on another ip along with mass effect,

You think they would be worried that there brand has been on 3 major screw ups

Dragon age 3 launched broken with the frostbite engine yes its a good game but you can see in the late game how rough it was

anthem......

Mass effect 4 well that dev team was fired so yeah.....

They should make sure this new dragon age is a goat instead of putting more work on the table

bababooiy176d ago

Bioware today is like 150 poeple i dont see how they are seemingly working on all these projects at the same time.

Michiel1989176d ago

Inquisition wasn't broken, it just had some flaws and on the contrary it also had some strengths. If you call inquisition a major screw up then idk what to say.

That said with what happened to the study since then and now, I'm not really confident that their next game will be any good.

just_looken175d ago

If you played it fully to get plat like me back in its novemeber launch window you had that castle with empty area's endgame missions not there or working and a mp that was made around loot box grind like the mass effect mp.

Its hard to explain to those that played it years later after they tossed out the dlc/patch's

Michiel1989175d ago

entitled much? I played it at launch too. Why you even platted it if it was a "major screw up"?
It was good enough for you to sink 100 hours in but also a complete fuckup at the same time, make up your mind.
So either you like shitty games or you're just talking out of your ass.

RaidenBlack176d ago

Well just wanna say, Archetype Entertainment is the new BioWare, composed of mainly ex-BioWare vets.
And they're developing Exodus (starring Matthew McConaughey), a new sci-fi RPG (spiritual successor to Mass Effect, dare I say?)

CantThinkOfAUsername176d ago

I hope it's a single player game with Anthem's gameplay mechanics.

Becuzisaid176d ago

They're owned by EA. What makes you think that they wouldn't publish for PS5? Shoot, if your fridge could connect to your bank account EA would try to release it for that if they could!

Double_O_Revan176d ago

How about they focus on those games and not over extend themselves? We don't need another Anthem.

Becuzisaid176d ago

Bioware died after Inquisition (some would even argue after ME3). They are no longer the same company.

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