VideoGamer writes: From Software's latest is the best exclusive game on PS4. It's also the most accessible of the Souls games: will it be enough to broaden its player base?
inb4 souls remaster collection gets announced.
Sad but true story, I had a dream last night that Miyazaki announced that Bloodborne was actually Dark Souls 3 and I was on N4G and there was a flame war going on... Yes, I need to go out more.
You was on N4G and there was a flame war going on... Yeah that's not dream buddy, that's a reality lol
Bloodborne is Dark Souls 3 even a blind man can see that.
@Spinal BloodBorne is definitely a "Souls", but not a "Dark Souls". I hope both the DarkSouls and BloodBorne franchises keep on going in parallel
bloodborne is demon souls 2 get it right
Hard to look at the old guy in the "Not the Nexus" and think of anyone but The Maiden in Black. This game is so Demon's Souls I half expect Ostrava to show up.... Kills me how people dismiss the game that started it all and act like Dark Souls is it...
Well, there is already Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin, which basically is a "remaster"/"def initive edition". Also, the Souls series already went pretty mainstream with Dark Souls 2. Look a its steam page and you'll see it's as popular as any other big mainstream game. Each of the Dark Souls games sold like 2 million copies, too. I think the Souls series clearly made the jump from niche to mainstream when the "Prepare to Die" edition was released. That sudden change in marketing strategy says it all
yea but they mean by sells the games do not sell like you guys think they do...
Could Bloodborne be anymore mainstream with nearly every gaming site fapping about the game? You can't expect it to reach CoD levels as it's just not to everyone's taste. I certainly don't play the souls games. I'm sucked into Dying Light an Mass Effect 3 atm.
I don't think anyone is expecting it to reach Call of Duty levels. OT: Seems like Bloodborne and Dark Souls II have helped aid these types of games going mainstream. I'm all for it!
I've been wondering too.. It should, but will it? So long as the challenging gameplay remains. . I doubt it. I love that style of game-play, but I can't speak for others.
Sony needs to release a demo. There are a lot of people who have no idea what this game is about and hear everything about that difficulty which won't make them spend $60. As a new IP that pretty much got all 10s, a way to help make this go even more mainstream would obviously be releasing a demo. Me personally, I never really 'understood' the Souls games. Just didn't appeal to me PERSONALLY. Seeing the great reviews for Bloodborne, I'd love to 'try' it and go from there. Sure that's the case for a lot of others.
Just shareplay with a friend that has the game so you can play and experience the game for yourself.
Yeah i'm interested in seeing the sales for Bloodborne. Yeah it scored extremely well but it's a niche game.
No doubt fro, but the word "mainstream" scares me. A lot of devs will dumb down the philosophies that made them special in order to appeal to a wider audience ie: socom, final fantasy, mass effect, dead space. This typically dillutes what was great about them in the first place.
Thats the problem though there really is no story to bb ..
That is completely ignorant of you and incorrect.
could happen, but with people like Dan, it's a long shot...
Ah Dan, the guy who gave up. I remember him well.
Lol I really hope that sticks.
They did a great job of making it more accessible but not more easier. Every death I've had felt deserved.
I doubt it. Many will be put off by the difficulty. Certainly isn't luring FPS guys away from their call of duty, etc.
Take away some of the difficulty and voilà you have a mainstream game. Then add more difficulty settings to still offer fans of the series the same amount of frustration they are used to and everyone wins.
That's what I stated on a previous thread and got disagreed to oblivion 😏. Mind you, I used Halo as an example where Legendary difficulty is damned hard, but there are 3 other difficulties available for all skill levels. I guess I should have used a PS game as my example 😏
Kstap: personally for me that's not the issue if you used a Xbox one game and btw all games have that. Have difficulty setting would ruin these games. It's fun because it has this one difficulty setting that's been worked out to be both awarding and challenging. If they remove that everyone even me is probably just going to do easy and ruin the game and atmosphere.
I feel like a difficulty setting would ruin the game. What makes the Souls games so great is that they are uncompromising. It all comes down to the patience and will power of the player, either you got it or you don't. Taking that whole concept away or making it optionary would kinda spit in the face of what these games are about. I love it when devs stick to their guns.
If you take difficulty away, it would be a pretty lame semi-hack-n-slasher.
No, we all lose. The core, the crux, of the game depends on the unwavering difficulty as "accomplishment" and "focus" are the pillars of the game. So far Miyazaki and FromSoftware have been champions in holding to their vision for games. I hope that continues. Miyazaki has now caught lightening in a bottle 3 times with 3 different IPs. Man is visionary.
I like the game on hard, because that is when it is the most fun for me. There are a good number of games that have both easy and hard difficulty modes and that are enjoyed therefore by a larger number of players: MGS 4 (and others) Diablo III The last of Us ... I played all of them on medium difficulty the first time and they were pretty fun. Then I turned up the difficulty and was amazed how much more fun they were and how differently I played them. Harder difficulty = more intense, immersive and emotional experience. But no one takes that from me just by offering another easier difficulty mode on top of the hard one, so that others can enjoy the game as well.
ITS NOT A SOULS GAME!!!!!!!!!
you know what he means
Why should it? I love the challenge well I did before all the nerfs in every which direction due to people crying.
Most of people want just to sit there and relax playing some easy games...So i'm not expecting Bloodborne to ever be mainstream!!!
Bloodborne is the absolute favorite of the series. It's a lot more like Demon Souls than Dark Souls and Demons Souls was perfection. Bloodborne is a solid 10 for me.
From my point of view, they kinda are? Alot of people know Dark Souls and its notorious difficulty. AFAIK the games have even sold decently so it wouldnt be too far to say that they are mainstream, maybe "selective mainstream"
I played demon souls cause dude at work said it would make me wanna tear my eyes out. I made it through like 2 bosses, was very difficult but the sense of acconplishment was awesome. Graphics were sweet for the time. My order comes today. Pretty excited.
Can only speak for myself and dudes I know but many of my buddies and I will be picking it up today, none of us having played the previous games. This one just looks more welcoming and while still challenging, the gameplay more enjoyable. Obviously helps that the PS4 has been suffering a slight drought of highly acclaimed games lately.
Just defeated the second boss. My hands were literally sweating during the third phase of the fight but I made it through sheer determination. It's definitely more accessible than the previous Souls games but far from being your usual mainstream gaming experience.
I'm 4 hours in and still havent made it to the first boss - still trying to find the right class /weapon combo that works best for me. Never played a souls game before, I like the game itself but what is ruining the experience for me is the long load time each time I die.
Mainstream - does that mean we will get annual reboots (like Madden and COD? Nothing wrong with that version of mainstream but Id prefer these games kept their brutally hard characteristics and stay with a "smaller" fan base)
I don't think so. Bloodborne was not made for everyone, just like Demons or Dark souls. From software has stuck to the formula which is why the loyal fans were so eager for bloodborne, if the devs wanted to dial it down and make it less unforgiving and more accessible then it wouldn't be the same.
...ala last gen Ninja Gaiden.
On one hand it scares the crap out of me because you fear the 'dumbing down' of the game for everyone, but then again think of the wondrous game world that could be created from these guys with twice the budget? Expand their team, keep all planning and gameplay within the same team and the next game could be like revolutionary. Its tough to know. You just hope that the game remains difficult and similar to how they are now.
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