There's evidence that the latest GTAV Next-Gen patch (1.08) stealthily downgraded the game's graphics in multiple ways.
Hopefully its a big in the patch... very cheeky though if its true!
i've noticed a big improvement with frame rate to be honest, i imagine its for that reason especially online. ill keep the smoother frame rate for gta rather than crisper visuals.
100% agreed. I wish more devs had these balls.
See, visuals don't even have to be bad;it's only when developers aim for realism. Give it an artistic style and they likely wouldn't have these problems.
They should at least give people the choice.
The framerate was just fine before the update
I agree framerate more important as drops especially online can be the difference between life and death and looking at those shots there minor differences. Graphics still look amazing for the games and devs should realise we don't need flashy graphics we want amazing games that work and play well first and foremost. I mean look at GOTY 2 years ago was the walking dead that game certainly didn't win for graphics.
Just no, a downgrade that's absurd
Guess what. It's not a downgrade, it's a bug that will be patched. https://support.rockstargam...
@Lord Maim - Too late. The idea of a downgrade has already taken hold.
Everyone is missing their 28fps lol More gfx please.
It's a "bug", it'll be fixed.
Might just be looking at the Xbone version.
With all of the graphical options, they had better add an option to revert to the last update's version of handling the graphics. Deciding this far in that players should want it this way instead of how it was before is pretty silly, especially since there really weren't that many complaints as far as I could tell, and I know I didn't have any.
I was complaining about the frame rate online.
-There is no Downgrade in graphics /What happened was one feature in display was turned off by default.. Motion Blur.. So if you go to Settings / Display / Motion Blur - and turn it up all the way, everything will be back to normal..
But that doesn't really make sense. Motion blur makes the image look worse not better. Well, worse to me I will say. The downgrade comparison I saw showed a complete removal of parallax occlusion which has nothing to do with motion blur.
@ NiteX Very good point, let me see how I can best explain this... This is going to be hard to explain / but lets see if I can.. The motion blur feature is not just motion blur it's called that, but it actually does a lot more then you would think, why? because of the way it works.. -Think about when you add a drop shadow to an image in adobe photoshop- it makes it look more 3D because now the image has a shadow and seems like it's floating or popping off the screen. Quick explanation of Motion Blur - the motion blur is when you see a car moving in the game it has a slight blur to it, so it looks more like real life motion. / Like when you hold you hand up to your face and move your hand side to side, in real life you see your hand with a slight blur - that's how your eyes work. when you take that off it takes away the blur and you see the car moving but no blur, so it does not look like real life, it's just completely clear no blur. /So now put your hand in front of your face and move side to side but this time turn your head with your hand, so when your hand moves to the right look to your right, follow your hand... -Now you get no blur, but your hand is moving. -that's motion blur off. That's basically how it works, so same thing is happening in the game, if you take motion blur off it is like taking away some of the effects in Post Processing - in GTA V they are tied together, were in a PC they would be separate and you could go crazy, on consoles a lot of the effects are tied together, for a number of reasons / but the main reason is to keep a fluid experience as there is no need to turn up these features or adjust them because they are already maxed out for as high as your console can do without hitting a load error. Meaning on my PC I can max out Crysis and play at 1920 by 1080p and max out everything and get a very slow playing game, were on your console it does not allow you to play the game higher then the system can handle. So the other features are not things you can touch because there would be no need to because consoles are all the same, where a PC might have higher memory or a better graphics card so maybe you can handle more effects / so you are allowed to adjust them. ***Ok long story short -- Best way to see this is go to your garage in GTA V, walk up and down the middle of the garage - Then turn Motion Blur all the way up - (Now notice how the paint on your cars look better how the cars feel slightly bigger, how the middle of the garage feels wider... it's because all of these effects on console are tied to the Motion Blur)*** So if you feel like your game is looking downgraded, just turn the Motion Blur all the way back up, /it got turn off by default in the last update/ and it will be back to normal.. Hopefully this helps explain it.. just try it out and you will see the difference.. / It's not easy to explain in a comment but hopefully I explained it in a way that people can understand it better.
very cheeky indeed. ...and did anyone notice the flying cars in this pic? http://www.worldsfactory.ne...
Cheeky? They downright fabricated the Anisotropic Filter comparison by zooming in on the 1.08 screenshot. LOL, but people will fall for it anyway.
If this game was exclusive world war 3 would have started and all hell would have broke loose but it's a multiplat so nobody cares and everyone is still enjoying it like they should.
Well neogaf cares a lot as they have started a GTA v on pc , console getting downgrade war over there But its funny how true your statement is
NeoGaf... that place could be worse than in here sometimes. @AussieGamer1 You are so on point with your comment.
this so much. no one noticed or truly cares because heists are too much fun to look away from and analyze graphics. ofc , for anyone cares about graphics more than gameplay is free to delete the patch though i kinda noticed the af
Or because half the time you are starring at a loading screen.
It's sad that you are completely correct @AussieGamer1
Yeah, everybody should enjoy the game, but it's ridiculous to have it downgraded, especially if people were enjoying it anyway (if they are 'still' enjoying, means they were enjoying it before and no reason to downgrade graphics)
Hope it's worth it
That's very strange. I thought patches were suppose to improve stuff...
Well it kind of did.. The game had pretty major frame drops when driving few of the biggest roads but I haven't noticed a single one of them with these new patches. And since I had no clue about these downgrades until this article came out, I'm more than pleased with the fix. If those frame drops would still exist with these slight downgrades, then I would be mad.
Hoping it's worth it.
they should call it current-gen by now
Seriously PS5 and Xbone2000 are the next gen systems now.
You mean Xbox One 2?
One + 2 = 3.. . Half life 3 confirmed?
@Torque What if........ Half Life 3 is real life? We have been playing Half Life 3 since BIRTH!!!!
@Khajiit86 Holy Shit.
SO if I was to take the red pill would that mean that I'd escape the matrix to see the 'real world' which is actually Half Life 3? So the white-bearded guy from the Matrix was wrong, NEO (Reeves)was the second human Messiah not the 7th cause Half Life 3 just got confirmed!!! MIND BLOWN! >>> SELF-FATALITY!!
Anyone else not seeing a difference?
this photo show the difference http://www.worldsfactory.ne... http://www.worldsfactory.ne...
One of those pics is zoomed in and intentionally looks like it was made to look bad. My ps4 version of the game DOES NOT look like that. This article is lies.
The second shot is BS, it's fuzzy & zoomed in. Anyone would notice that type of downgrade immediately
It looks depth of field is off on one picture and on in the other one
The video is important, somethings up https://www.youtube.com/wat...
why are the cars floating?
It actually looks lower res and non native 1080p, like 720p or something. ICK! I will just not download the patch since I don't play online, problem solved for me.
Hopefully it improves those loading times at least...
you can definitely see a difference at least in those screens. 1.08 screens, look blurry and severely lacking detail.
I'm not seeing anything "major." The frame rate has been improved quite a bit, much more stable. The visuals look MAYBE a little downgraded, but worth it if it improves the frame rate.
kinda feels crappy if thats the case its more a ps3 game than a ps4 game it seems
so rockstar downgrades their game and almost everyone is ok with this.........
Most people are too dumb to care.
People that are indifferent about a supposed graphics downgrade in exchange for a better framerate = dumb? Brilliant logic there.
A frame-rate analysis is required to claim how much improvement this provides. If it fixes somethings that happens 5% of the time but affects the game 100% of the time, it's a bad move, they should downgrade when the performance is needed dynamically. That beach scene for example works fluidly in 1.00, looks much more flatter in 1.08. It's a 0% performance increase for that part of the game.
Rockstar never seem to get talked about despite GTAV being broken online still yet no one seems to say anything... It still kicks large groups of players from sessions and has a massive loading time along with the session changing on MP. Every other game gets slated for this yet because it's Rockstar it's ignored. They just seem to be so loved by everyone that when there is problems its not jumped on like every other dev. Lucky i guess is the word.
it seems like rockstar gets a pass for downgrading and then doesn't give a reason why.
why even port this game if they are just going to downgrade back to last gen graphics ? i have a feeling they also did this because they want people to buy it a third time for people who have both consoles and PC. dirty tactic.
Wonder which console got nerfed?
Oh Science, Hope they fix it back up plus get the motion blur slider working in the next patch.
Ah the B$ train wagon continues for the primary reason for hits.... They added a blur effect that you can turn off in the settings....
Dude, the downgrade is real, check the screenshots and video for yourself. It has nothing to do with a "blur effect" from the settings. People are very angry around the Web.
The game looks last gen anyways
You must not have played "last gen" in a while
I agree with you despite everyone disagreeing. Game is hardly amazing looking.
One way to avoid downgrades? PC fellas: http://www.grandtheftautofo... That said, I just had to get a new video card (isn't cheap) and even with that I don't know if I'm getting to MAX out eye candy on the PC version when and if it comes out. That said, PC versions have internal tweaks to suit your own PC. Consoles aren't so lucky. Everyone goes down with the ship as it were.
lol You do not talk about PC in these post. People are incredibly butthurt over this, will downvote you and report you for trolling. Don't bother, mate.
April Fools yo.
you've done it marty!!
It's still a great looking game.
Sure, but why downgrade now? Also, it's not like they improved the frame rate a lot.