Battlefield Hardline: Multiplayer 900p on PS4, 720p on Xbox One

Battlefield Hardline developer Visceral Games has confirmed resolution details for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions of the upcoming cops-and-robbers multiplayer shooter. As was the case with Battlefield 4, the PS4 edition will output in a higher native resolution than its Xbox One counterpart.

[Qrphe]

>2015

Hopefully at least it's actually locked at 60

[Randostar]

It wont be.
The game will run at 45-50 fps average on consoles, just like BF4.

[Bansai]

Oh boy, I can already see fanboys boiling.

[Razuel]

ugh, 30-45 FPS and 1080p or 900p and high AA settings would be better imo.

[MRMagoo123]

I can imagine the tiny maps will make the fps easier to hit imo.

[GarrusVakarian]

"The game will run at 45-50 fps average on consoles, just like BF4"

From my experience, it depends entirely on the game mode. The framerate was anywhere from 30fps-60fps on Conquest Large in BF4. The game modes with smaller player-counts, though, such as Rush, Squad Deathmatch, and Domination, were much more solid and held 60fps much better than CL.

Hardline's framerate should hold up pretty well in the smaller game modes if BF4 is anything to go by. Luckily for me I've never been a fan of the huge, conquest-style game modes.

[Crimzon]

I'll always take framerate over resolution, because it's much more crucial to gameplay than resolution ever will be.

Having said that however, I'll also avoid any EA games for a long while. BF4 was broken for a long time and ended up being all about the DLC, a trend that looks to continue with Hardline and the Star Wars game as well.

[Mankey]

Didn't EA swear it would 1080p at E3 2014?

[nicksetzer1]

Beta looked fine, so not to worried about resolution on paper if the game looks and plays well.

@cinerella dude, move on. Cry to someone else, somwhere else. What is more hilarious, MANY people (even in this comment section) will play thia game for over 100 hours plus a 6 hour campaign and plenty of content. Those same people still feel this game should be 20-40$. It almost makes you whole point turn right back on you.

[SilentNegotiator]

" I guess this consoles are really underpowered after all :/ "

Considering that they're $350-400 hardware, absolutely not.

[nowitzki2004]

This makes me even more happy that I just switched my primary gaming machine to PC. It makes a difference to me. I have a 720p tv, 900p monitor, and 1080p 3dtv. Believe me every game looks so much better on the 1080p screen.

[chrismichaels04]

My friends and I really enjoyed the beta. We're definitely looking forward to getting into the full game.

[NatureOfLogic_]

PS4 version was blurry during the beta. I was hoping for a resolution upgrade. As for Xbox One, lmao, 720p in 2015 is ridiculous. There's no excuse to have a 720p game in 2015.

Edit: After doing some research, there are only 4 900p games on PS4. 2 of those games are EA games(Both BF games). The other 2 are ubisoft games.

900p is a big downgrade from 1080p on my TV. I'm use to 1080p with most PS4 games. BFHL beta was my first 900p game this gen and I could tell instantly that it didn't look too good. It looked blurry and was actually a bit painful to look at some times. I can imagine 720p is much worse though.

[Eonjay]

Is this the engine that will run Star Wars?

[Saito]

@cinderella your info is wrong and why bring the Order into this?

[Gazondaily]

Funnily enough, just got back into Battlefield yesterday and to be honest, its impressive just how much it pulls off with all the player numbers and vehicles and carnage.

[mikeslemonade]

This is why BF is 2nd-rate behind COD. There game almost looks last gen and still they can't hit the minimum standards.

[Gazondaily]

@mike

"This is why BF is 2nd-rate behind COD. There game almost looks last gen and still they can't hit the minimum standards."

Wait, what are you talking about here? COD or BF because COD MP is the one that looks last gen and is hardly doing anything above what the previous gen is.

Tell me when COD does 64 player battles with ground air and sea vehicles with proper destruction and phat ass buildings collapsing.

[boing1]

Hardline Beta had a steadier fps than BF4.

[Timesplitter14]

@MMOBytes

I'd rather play in 800x600 resolution at 60fps than play in 4k at 59fps

FPS is everything. At least EA has the right priorities

[Sy_Wolf]

Since the engine has undergone much more optimization since BF4 there's a good chance it can run at 60. Assuming it will or that it won't is stupid when you're not involved with the development process.

[Bigpappy]

LOL. These developers didn't put anymore effort into improving that engine for this game. Guess they figure: if you guy bought and played it like that a year ago, you should be okay with it now too.

I never played a battle field game. So it really doesn't affect me.

[Vegamyster]

I wouldn't say no effort, there is a definite improvement in the latest beta compared to the E3 one, but they should not have said it was 1080p to begin with.

E3 Beta: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Last Beta: http://youtu.be/4y0PZv-cm68...

[frostypants]

It really should be a downloadable $20 expansion pack for BF4, like the Vietnam expansion for BFBC2. Calling this a new game is a joke.

[Eonjay]

@GMR_PR

The only difference is that you don't hear a story every week about how some API, or whatever will drastically improve the PS4.

[UKmilitia]

it goes to show that its all the same as BF4 with new modes.
an expensive DLC package imo and i wont be buying it.

[_-EDMIX-_]

...I see you don't know what your talking about.

"effort into improving"

A better engine also means more demanding...which means LESS FRAMES, LESS RESOLUTION!

To run 1080p 60fps, all they have to do is turn off many effects...

Those settings are game dependent, they have to do with the developers choosing to NOT downgrade their game to hit a number vs "effort into improving"

Any PC gamer will tell you, to hit 1080p 60fps...you merely need to lower specific settings to due so.

...thats it.

"I never played a battle field game"

So how can you speak on improvements?

Thats like saying L4D2 on my HD 5770 can run 1080p 60fps thus made more "effort in improvements" vs Crysis running lessor on my rig.

The better engine is actually the more demanding engine thus runs LESSOR frames, lessor resolution.

You gamers sound so slow trying to badmouth developers or publisher when you have no idea about the technical side of gaming.

1080p 60fps is a CHOICE! It isn't a default nor a require to game.

Developers are very much choosing to not having their games run that because it means having a lessor looking game.

GTAV and The Last Of Us sold mega millions and got hundreds of awards....

Yet on last gen consoles they were not 1080p 60fps.

Gamers in reality really don't care, they want beast engines, graphically superior games.

The Last Of Us would not look as amazing as it does ont PS3 IF they forced a 1080p 60fps setting as it would graphically have to be lowered just to run that.

Wipeout HD on PS3 ran 1080p 60fps, once again...a developer chooses that setting, its barely based on system as suppose to developer choosing to.

Yet...not many games ran 1080p 60fps native...its based on it wasn't worth the sacrifice graphically.

Put it this way..how do you guys know GTAV on PS3 would not have looked like GTASA if they forced it to run 1080p 60fps on the lowest settings?

Those developers see what those games look like and they make the choice to not sacrifice graphics ,effects etc for resolution and I think its a good call.

[Timesplitter14]

Why do you automatically blame the devs? Have you considered that maybe the hardware is the problem? This gen's consoles are ridiculously underpowered. The devs aren't magicians

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Timesplitter14- That actually isn't the case.

The performance of the PS4 and XONE are far above what was the minimum for PC games. To date, I can't even tell you a PC game that required 3.6TFLOPS of a GPU performance to actually run, yet that is 2x of the PS4's capable performance.

It has nothing to do with being um.."under-powered", it has everything to do with EA having a beast engine and pushing it to its max.

Consider the engine is using the full 3.6TFLOP performance....

What game on PC requires this currently?

Thus...doesn't that mean they are setting their engine to MAX OUT, thus it would always be 900p/720p?

Consider the PS4 and XONE had 5TFLOP in terms of performance....

SOOOOO EA could just make an engine that maxed that out too, thus again having a better looking game at 900p/720p

Game resolution and frame is GAME DEPENDENT! Its NOT hardware dependent. Someone choose those settings.

When you play a PC title...do YOU the user not choose those settings?

Well consider the developer makes the game and knows a bit more and choose to make those settings vs downgrade the game.

You might like how 1080p 60fps looks....but your not factoring all the settings that are turned off to achieve such a thing.

They very much are.

I'd rather play a game on PC on Ultra at something less then 1080p if it looked better, then 1080p low...

That is what they are doing with console games and it makes sense. People don't' buy games just based on such a number.

If that is the case, GTASA on PS3 and 360 should be outselling GTAV...

New next gen only engines at 900p/720p > old dated engines at 1080p 60fps.

Would you rather never play GTAV if it meant not in 1080p? But you could play GTASA in HD?

Consider GTAVI will very, very like not be in 1080p 60fps, will you say its because the consoles are lessor despite GTAVI looking supierior to GTAV?

When you have a GPU, you max out Crysis, Crysis 4 comes along....you can't play this game with the same settings as Crysis 1....

Doesn't really matter, Crysis 4 on medium, 900p, 30fps will likely still look better then Crysis 1.

Consider does Crysis 1 in 720p not look better then HL1?

Its not the console, its the demanding engine and the choice developers made to seek graphics, textures etc vs some number.

Nothing wrong with 1080p 60fps, but not such a huge cost.

Do you really think they want to run into next gen with a last gen engine against competition? Using better engines?

The reality is, folks will notice what engine looks better and will really not care what numbers go along with it.

ie Crysis > HL1. You can market 1080p 60fps ALL DAY, but the consumer will still just see...

Crysis > HL1.

The hardware had little to nothing to actually do with it.

Give the better hardware...EA just makes a more DEMANDING ENGINE THAT DOESN'T DO 1080p..

Consider they are still seeking to beat their competitors.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

You never played a BF before? Unlike a lab rat Ina a maze looking for the cheese Cod, there's no other game I can think of right now on this Gen console where you can fly a jet, bail out, rpg a chopper, while some one on the other side of a gigantic map compared to cod, could snipe the pilot, which is rare, just saying, outta the jet that was chasing you down. Every single bullet goes somewhere in bf4 at least when it's running fine lol. But really how can you judge a game and its devs when you've never played a BF?

[Bigpappy]

For those saying I am judging the game without playing it. That is no true at all. As I am not judging the game , not even a little. It may be a great game despite the engine not being improved.

This is the same engine they used at launch. No other game, that I have heard of, is being release at 720p.

I am not a resolution whore, but many other similar games have been released at much higher than 720p and work just fine. I am not saying people should not buy and enjoy the game. I just think that its the same launch engine and just and extension of BF4, rather than a whole new effort.

[Bathyj]

It might hit 60, but I doubt it will be locked at 60.

If its going up and down anyway, Id prefer they just lock it at 30fps and go 1080p, unless of course its actually sitting pretty close to 60 the majority of the time.

[ABizzel1]

Hard to guarantee a locked 60 unless it's soaring well above 60fps, or the developer specifically goes in and codes areas that are lacking (only really works in single player).

But based on the beta it a much more consistent 60fps than BF4 was.

[XxExacutionerxX]

I swear this game could have been an dlc for bf4. I just want to play single player.

[UKmilitia]

me too but i play that on my pc(wink wink)
EA can release there broken mess again but i wont be paying for it again until month have passed if its even that good because the beta was a bit lame.
drive orund in circles shooting

[Bathyj]

So does anyone know what the single player portion runs at?

I see know reason why this shouldnt be 1080p seeing as you dont have to worry about those big maps and player counts.

[KirbysDump]

This story is such old news. Doesmt affect my enjoyment or purchasing

[otherZinc]

Glad for M$ Exclusives, to show the XBOX ONE Exclusives can achieve 1080p and 60fps.

Looking very forward to Fable Legends, Forza Motorsport 6, & Halo 5 to put lazy multiplatform developers to shame.

[jc12]

It certainly is dissapointing that this game wont run at 1080p, but I'm not surprised. Given the high level of enviornmental dyamism coupled with the large player count, I was expecting this game to run at 900p to be honest.

As with any good shooter now a days, 60FPS is pretty much mandatory. Knowing that, I'm sure Visceral never really expected this game to play at 1080p on PS4, let alont XB1. Unless of course they play the campaign at 1080p/30 and multiplayer at 900p/60, which isnt a terrible idea.

[Deadlead]

I'm so fucking sick of these pissing contests. When did a slight res advantage become the most important aspect to discuss in the gaming community. It will make almost no difference in the overall gaming experience. Can't blame the media for pumping out these incendiary articles, when gamers continue to flock to them. And for what? Bragging rights? "Nah nah nah I bought the right console!" Christ, these companies don't care about you!

[DarthZoolu]

yo

[SonofGod]

What? They said it would be 1080p for both. Wow.

[hqgamez]

I don't see the big deal. 900 from 1080p isn't far apart. I can see if you're playing on xbox one, sucks to be you but anyways 900p from 1080p you won't see much of a difference unless you got a tv that's 48in or bigger. You buy a game to play, not to look at the environments.

[ArnoDorian]

wrong, games are different today, games today allows us to be immersed along with the game
for my reasons i game for fun and to be immersed within the environment of the game

[joab777]

I disagree that you can't tell. I certainly can. Though it doesn't bother me much as long as it's smooth. But I can't imagine 720. Thats the demand we craved... $400 consoles.

[frostypants]

900p is a 56% resolution improvement over 720p. 1080p is a 44% improvement over 900p and a 125% improvement over 720p. It's a significant difference...they are very far apart in terms of pixels. It just doesn't sound like much because the name only directly references the horizontal lines. But the pixel count difference is massive. It's just that the difference to the naked eye is a diminishing return...hence why sometimes it's a justifiable trade-off to bump the resolution down.

[nowitzki2004]

I love to stop and stare at the environments in The Last of Us, Uncharted, Tomb Raider, Forza Horizon, Gears, Skyrim..... Yeah The list can go forever.

[poppinslops]

They should have cancelled the PS3/360 versions and focused on the current-gen/PC... I doubt they'd have gotten a playable 1080p, but at least they'd have had more time to optimise.

Hopefully 'Battlefront' will run better...

[scark92]

They say alot of things

[Cra2yey3]

Battlefield 5 has got to get to 1080p...

[CryLessGameMore]

you mean battlefield bad company 3

[nowitzki2004]

I wish.

[Cra2yey3]

I wish I did mean that too but they announced 5 already.

[All_Consoles]

Unless these so called next gen consoles magically get a better processor they won't

[Ctiboi2010]

I doubt this is more about hardware limitations than it is about proper utilization of the hardware on both platforms. Down the road I'm sure things will get better once the developers properly code for both consoles. Especially the Xbox One in this situation, we should be long past 720p by now.

Anyway, regardless of resolution I hope the gameplay is great. It seems promising. That is the most important factor as far as I'm concerned.

[TKCMuzzer]

Correct, if I enjoy it thats all that matters, I mean your value comes from the gameplay not the resolution.

I think Dice said they are working on updates for the frostbite engine for their next Battlefield game, improving it's performance, I assume visceral had to work with what they had of the current frostbite engine.

[Randostar]

Dev already know how to Code properly on these consoles, its x86-64 architecture. The problem is optimizing, EA knows that the biggest market they have is the PC market, so sadly this is where all the optimization really goes. If they Optimized X1 and PS4 as much as the PC version, we would have 1080p on the ps4 and 900p on x1 at least. The Framerate would also be much more consistent, while i don't think the game is going to be shi*** at all on the PS4/X1. I do know that it won't be as optimized as it could be. Blame EA.

[Agent_hitman]

Ah, you mean this full-pledged DLC of BF4 called Hardline? I personally think that this DLC is good enough for BF4. /s

[m1armor]

The hardware in both were always limited. It will be like this for the rest of their console lives. Accept it.

[jv1991]

This is the only game on ps4 with 900p? And its not gonna be this way the rest of this gen. There are enough games full hd even on xbox

[Svinya]

BF4 is 900p as well on PS4

[starchild]

True, but the consoles are still capable of some beautiful looking games.

[MadLad]

@LightDiego

He plays everything. Just as I do.
Just because he's not afraid to tell things as they are, admitting that this console generation, in terms of performance, is less than stellar, that doesn't mean he is trolling.
If the consoles weren't, in fact, rather weak, he wouldn't be playing into such statements.

Enough said.

[ShottyGibs]

Agree'd .. it was a fair comment and true. Calling a spade a spade isn't trolling. It's no secret this Gen consoles aren't exactly powerhouses. There wouldn't be articles like this otherwise.

[DemonSlayer420]

This is disappointing, though it looks like framerate took priority over resolution which is good news for gameplay. A rock solid 60fps is definitely more important than resolution. However, it's odd that they couldn't at least get Xbone at 900p for parity with PS4.

[Letthewookiewin]

Xbone isn't on par with PS4, there should be no parity if a game is optimized to its full potential. Don't hate the box, it's just a widely accepted fact.

[LOL_WUT]

With EA access being exclusive to X1 one would think they'd work extra harder on getting both versions up to par with one another. ;)

[jv1991]

Serious not even full hd on ps4? What a joke. Im glad i dont even like battlefield

[Iamnemesis4880]

As long as it is still fun to play i do not have a doubt at all

[GortJester]

It would almost be ok if it was a rock solid 60fps... but it most likely won't be.

[brettyd]

What exactly was the purpose of releasing new consoles? Same limitations, such crap.

[GenuineGamer]

The only limitations in this case is the dev's and maybe the engine. Both consoles are capable of much more than this trash. The graphics aren't even good an they can still only manage 720p? Terrible effort on their part.

[TKCMuzzer]

So your saying the game is crap because it has restricted resolutions?
Does gameplay, enjoyment etc have a part to play in whether a game is 'trash' or not? Or has the industry solely become about resolution?

[beerzombie]

Yes this site keeps blaming the boxes but they should just blame the dev's with lazy crappy coding.

[ShottyGibs]

Physics, Ballistics etc. Consoles can only manage corridor closed maps with static environments if you haven't noticed. Blame those weak as hell AMD CPU's

[TKCMuzzer]

Last time I checked BF4 on my PS4 it looked a lot better and ran a lot smoother than Bf4 on my PS3.

You are also aware that there are limitations to every format, even PC, everything caps out somewhere.

[Qrphe]

To EA, to make money. AW has amazing visuals without sacrificing great performance.

[TKCMuzzer]

There is surely a bit of irony in that comment, you mention EA are in it to make money then use a franchise published by Activision as a comparison. A franchise which has been used to make money on a rolling bases whilst offering very little in change over numerous versions.

Your graphics comparison does not hold, as well as COD runs, it has fewer players, smallers maps, no vehicles (i'm talking ground and air with multiple players involved) and next to no destruction making 1080p 60FPS an easier target to reach.

[Qrphe]

I can completely see how my comment came out. Activision and Blizzard are totally in it for the money both, but in the specific cases of BF and CoD, at least Activision put the effort of developing a good-performing game.

[GenuineGamer]

These devs are seriously lacking in the talent department. The mountain of problems with bf4 and here we are in 2015 and still they can only get 720p. The graphics aren't even good by today's standards wtf is their excuse??

I hope to god Battlefront 3 is being made by a different team because these guys are hopeless.

Im fully expecting hardline to be riddled with problems just like bf4 was.

[kevnb]

Different studio, same problems. Maybe it's just the engine, such a shame really.

[Redempteur]

maybe it's the shortcomings of the device the engine is running on.

[TKCMuzzer]

The resolution issue is to do with the engine not the devs. Their using the Frostbite engine from Dice.

As far as I remember BF4's problems had nothing to do with the engine, these are different devs so play the game before assuming and judging from the beta it won't launch with all those issues.

It's always good to check your facts before spewing rubbish in a comment.

[Gazondaily]

"These devs are seriously lacking in the talent department."

"I hope to god Battlefront 3 is being made by a different team because these guys are hopeless. "

SMH. Really? 64 players, proper destruction, loads of vehicles. Don't focus on the resolution so blindly.

Mind you, I dont want the next game to be riddled with connection problems like BF4.

But I wouldn't dare call these people hopeless or not talented.

[StrayaKNT]

The beta was fine i loved it on the xbox i didnt notice the graphics were as bad as people are making it out to be lol still day one for me

[GenuineGamer]

I agree with you Aussie, I played the beta aswell and although its not my thing, it is good enough to enjoy the game. But these consoles are capable of so much more than this. It's like last gen graphics. We deserve better. They either lack the talent or the engine is trash and not suited for current gen.

[TKCMuzzer]

Man, you need to sort yourself out your comments are way off.
Firstly stop ditching the devs,especially as I imagine you have no development experience on the PS4/Xbox One, or in general. Games are not all about resolution and secondly the graphics are nothing like last gen. Higher resolution,better draw distances, better textures, more players, more everything and more importantly all running at twice the frame rate.
I'm sorry, I really dislike it when people use the 'It's like last gen graphics' card when that is completely not true.

[GMR_PR]

I played the beta on Xbox One and the graphics were pretty bad. I though I was playing a last gen game. Can't say anything about PS4 since I didn't downloaded it for it.

[StrayaKNT]

I downloaded it for both, pretty much identical

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

What a joke EA. The game isn't graphically impressive at all.

[Tedakin]

Yeah really. COD AW looks a lot better and was 1080.

[MasterBaker]

Both are sub 1080p. I pretty sure they could get it to 1080p ps4 and 900pX1

[Randostar]

Everybody seems to Forget that BF is one of those games that is created around PC architecture (Customizable hardware). They make sure the consoles graphic settings are equivalent to High & Ultra settings on PC. While these games run good on the PS4 and X1, the Hardware inside of them prevents them from running at a locked 60fps with all of the bells and whistles set to high & ultra. This makes me wish that we could change the graphical settings on PS4 and X1 to make the game run at a Solid 60 fps. :/

[omarcomingyo]

I keep saying this to people on PSU site but they just don't get it!! Then when I asked them if they played Last Of Us or Infamous with the locked 30fps option they just don't answer!

[PsBoxGamer]

This is unacceptable. I WILL NOT support this crap.There still uwing that crappy ass engine smh.Still making games for ps3 and xbox 360 unbalivable smh.

[quenomamen]

This is unacceptable. I WILL NOT support this crap.There still uwing that crappy ass engine smh. This is about BF Hardline, not COD.

[realplayer82]

Definitely not buying this renting from gamefly for trophies.

[dolphin_supreme]

I'm thinking about gamefly. If you can, could you tell me what your opinion is of them. Are they worth your money?

[realplayer82]

I like it plenty of games I dont want to buy but want to play. I am on the 2 game plan and I make sure I have games sent in the week before new games come out so I get them by Thursday. I live in cali so I get them quick. So yes to me it is worth it.

[Dyldog69]

If you don't mind not getting your first choice and there's a more readily available back catalog that you haven't played yet it can be worth the money. If you can play through two or 3 games a month

[MultiConsoleGamer]

I'm sure everyone will have a good time.

[Tedakin]

beautiful... what happened to 1080p on both? Didn't they say that?

[MetroidFREAK21]

Lol resolution is still making news headlines nearly 2 years later... Give it a break

[Silly gameAr]

Hey, hearing about resolution is no different from constantly hearing about dx12 and power boast in this and that, and all of that other crap. It's all pretty pointless.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Yeah, you're right about that

[S2Killinit]

why such low resolutions?? is it super graphic intensive?

[Ark_]

I can only talk about BF4 on PC ... battlefield is one of the few games that is pretty demanding on both GPU and CPU. Espescially CPU limitations drops the framerate as bigger the playercount and the maps get. So it's not only the graphics. The framework of BF4 might just not be better optimizable for this reskin.

[S2Killinit]

hmm makes sense. I just hope they aren't being lazy or something.

[sourav93]

Ugh...well that's disappointing.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Its 60fps, this is not surprising.

[Iluvtrim]

I can't say I'm surprised. Devs need to do more.

[captainexplosion]

The game will probably suck on both consoles but 720P and under 60 FPS for a game that doesn't even look good is unacceptable.

[Mikey94]

This is pathetic especially considering they said the game would be 1080p 60fps. And worst part is this games graphics are a downgrade compared to Battlefield 4. Really get the feeling they didn't even try to get the full power out of the consoles.

[JasonKCK]

This debate still going?

[CaptainObvious878]

There's nothing to debate. Anyone with a little common sense knows what the facts are.

[JasonKCK]

Go to PC forum, and you'll see just how silly your console debate truly is.

[Dinkis]

Why would i go to a PC fourm if im guna play it on console? Better yet why are you here then?

[bleedsoe9mm]

gawd i wonder what they were running at in the fall before the delay . have preorders told them this game is going to bomb so why even try .

[realplayer82]

I am not a ms or xbone fan but this is ridiculous. 720 p is unacceptable in 2015. Only thing I can give them credit for is announcing it before release so there is that hopefully people vote with their paycheck s.

[Izzy408]

The fact that COD(AW) can run at 1080 60fps, while looking better graphically, tells me these developers do not know how to optimize for both consoles.

[Gwiz]

It's either don't know or now don't,lol.
There's something funky going on...

[dRanzer]

Call of duty in not massive 64 multiplayer with big maps and dectraction world
keep it in maind

[Tankbusta40]

720??? That is still a thing these days?

[kingbain90]

People honestly think 720p would be dead? Expect to see 720p on BOTH consoles again in the future. Unless you want devs to sacrifice gameplay to reach 1080p

[Izzy408]

The thing is, BFHL does sacrifice a lot of complex gameplay. The games has little to almost no destruction on some maps, less weapons, simpler vehicle physics, smaller maps, and no dynamic weather or lighting.

That is why we don't understand how a game with less complexity and inferior BF4 graphics can only run at 720/900p respectively. Not to mention the game was delayed almost half a year.

[MasterCornholio]

"720p on BOTH consoles again in the future."

In the case of the PS4 that would be the very first time that we see a 720P game on it. So your slightly wrong with your comment.

But here's the real question. Once games are 720P on the PS4 what will XB1 games be?

[kingbain90]

-_- you do realize games will become more demanding and have better gameplay later on this gen right? Look at halo 3 and 4 on last gen, Big difference. Gta 4 and gta 5, just hope devs get better so we don't see games non hd. With the sdk updates xbox has been getting and will receive like dx12 and better esram utilization it should not see games under 720p. If 540p returns then everyone can call for dev heads like they are now .

[Gwiz]

When Dragonball Xenoverse is runnung DX9 with 600MB Vram usage on average
on my PC with everyting maxed out 60 FPS,while the consoles have a few factors lowered such as lighting and high dynamic range turned off i can't help but wonder...
Dafuq are they doing with these systems?It's running at 30fps while the game isn't even pushing hardware.Now i see 900p VS 720p... *smh*

[Majin-vegeta]

When both BF games run at the same framerate something tells me it isn't optimised.

[Gilgamesh15]

Then this is either a shitty engine, or this game needs another year of dev time. I am leaning towards the latter.

[mhunterjr]

I usually don't care much about resolution, but bf4 looked aweful on xb1.... Worse than many other xb1 games at the same resolution. Just poor image quality all around. The fact that a year later with the same engine these guys couldn't do any better is sickening... In fact, in many ways it looks worse than bf4
Ps4 version should be 1080p and the xb1 at least 900p

[paddy95]

Ha. They must have the worst coders ever!

[Gwiz]

It's either catering to the 7th gen still or... these systems are really a lite upgrade.

[d_g]

glad they make it 1080p and 60fps on PC

[REDDURT]

I blame the console makers if they couldn't gives us 1080/60fps they aren't that much different from last gen.

[Saijahn]

that 720p though... can't lie that sucks but i'm so interested in the story plus i already have it downloaded on my xbox one so oh well. can't wait to play.

[ScorpiusX]

Guess the folks at MS that helped Bungie/Activision get destiny to 1080 are taking a ride to EA to help remedy this BS . Worst case MS delays the Xbox versions . Personally I can wait ,but if not resolved I will play it when it arrives at EA Access.

[Predaking77]

After all those SDK updates and 10 percent gpu increase on x1 I though It would perform better.

anyway, not buying a battlefield game at launch ever again.

[gamer7804]

this game was a total mess in beta honestly, it didn't play well and didn't enjoy it, so i guess this resolution news doesn't surprise me.

[EvilWay]

Well game looks like shit so Idc what the resolution it is doesn't look next gen at all

[PistolsAtDawn]

Well it appears that there were some optimization issues here with this game, but still I'm sure it will look great and be fun to play. I have the option to play it on either, but I'll be playing on X1 for this one since it's a primarily online game. If we've learned anything this gen...it's that res differences are little more than fanboy bait and nothing more...most people that "brag" about these things would fail a blind test anyway.

...just play the game and have fun with it.

Edit: I don't have anything saying this can/will happen, but it'd be funny if X1 told Visceral to release this game at 720p so that when DX12 comes out they can bump it to 1080p....for the headlines. (I know it's unlikely DX12 could do that for the game unless it was already at 900p at least...esp being that this game had a BETA before DX12 was even really announced...so clearly this game wasn't built with DX12 in mind).

[Simmo3D]

Wow. I remember ready it will be 1080p/60 on BOTH consoles!

http://gamingbolt.com/battl...

They've done nothing but add a new single player story and changed multiplayer a bit.. Even the beta still had rubber banding. LAZY DEVS = NO BUY

[jay2]

Wow! says it all, so pleased I've got a PS4 and gaming pc. unacceptable really.

[Sarah_Ch]

Thank god I'm not going to pick up this game

[parentoftheyear]

I just cant wait to play.

[masterfox]

meh

[NewShadow101]

Hardline doesn't look good by any means. Why the low resolution? Laziness? But keep throwing them games out somebody will bite! Maybe Cowboys and Indians next time?

[Str8Chaos74]

The funny part is no one wanted this game. Gamers want Bad Company 3 but I guess EA is too stupid to realize this. I agree that it does not look good at all. Wonder if it at least will be 60 fps, if not this is going to be a disaster.

[Locknuts]

I thought these consoles were supposed to get better with time due to optimisation. So I guess the people who said that the consoles would be maxed out pretty soon after launch due to the X86 architecture were right. Good for them. Sucks for me though as I own an Xbox One.

[Vestten]

The real issue hear is EA lied yet again. You people with secret sauce this and DX12 that and PS4 this and that, bunch of stupid gamers. Don't even know why you call yourselves gamers. DX12 wasn't used on this game #1. PS4 not at 1080p #2. EA LIED TO EVERYONE JUST SLAP THE S$&& OUT BOTH 1 & 2. Resolution never mattered to anyone but PC gamers til PS4 and Xbox One. A true gamer doesn't care about resolution and if they did they would play on PC. This article is telling you once again EA LIED! stupid people who just want to start up a stupid argument about which system is better is what we get though in the comments. Looks like neither system is that good apparently. Both subpar or EA and Viseral just didn't put any effort into the game, that's what I take away. Both systems can easily hit 1080p with effort. The hardware used in both is capable. But EA just wants your money and will sell you lies to get preorders and hype and then a week before release tell you the truth. THEY DIDNT CARE ENOUGH TO KEEP THEIR WORD! They knew months ago that the resolution wasn't where the said it would be and kept the lie going til they had to be honest. But they know you will still run out and support them and their lying BS! Enjoy what we gamers have created! Keep arguing over whose system is better you bunch of sheep! They knew you'd be to stupid to focus on the real issue.

[Dyldog69]

Underpowered. Having to sacrifice resolution sub 1080p for frame rate proves it

[yewles1]

...are people seriously trying to blame the engine when we just had Dragon Age: Inquisition?

[u got owned]

Not the same

[Ark_]

I think one can really not compare these two very well. Take Unity, Cry Engine, Unreal Engine etc. ... you can build so many different games, with so many different technical options ...

I just want to quickly repeat what I said in another post. BF4 ist pretty intense on the CPU especially in the Multiplayer part. My 7 year old q6700 runs the testrange on almost 120 fps. I go into game and get on 32player servers around 60-90 which is fine. I go to 64player servers and it drops to around 50-70, with mean drops to sub 30, if alot of action is going on.

The point is, that the whole framework of BF4 and Hardline is in Multiplayer pretty demanding. There is more going on than just graphics. Collision detection, environmental destruction, syncing of player stats and so on.

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

Ugh. No thanks.

[TimelessDbz]

Guys this game is coming out on 360 and ps3. Of course its going to get the upscale treatment. Until multi platform games stop coming out on ps3 and 360 . YOU WILL NOT SEE the next gen experience for that game.

[Jazz4108]

Wolfenstien I loved and was 1080p on both and 60fps

[CernaML]

Thats not entirely true...

[_NotoriousJaee]

The environment is barely destructible in this game and the graphics are alright so hopefully they locked the game at 60 Fps.

[benji101]

Next gen is over. I feel sorry for the people who did not save for a pc. Pc and Wii u are the best combination. Nintendos has a first party and PC plays every third party 8 times better than a PS4.

[Locknuts]

Bit of an exaggeration there doncha think? I'd say 7 times better lol. You're right though. Wii U & PC is the best combo.

[Tsubasa-Oozora]

*Phew*
I'm not into BF. I feel for you guys, 720 and 900 is not where it's at. Definitely not next-generation.

DICE better not screw things up with Star Wars.... or it's goodbye console

[lemoncake]

The game is going to be a bug riddled mess also, if they don't have the time to optimise their game no way they going to give a decent amount of time to testing and bug fixing.

[Shuckylad]

If it plays great I couldn't care less if it's 720p/900p/1080p. Mario kart 8 is a cracking game and is only 720p on wii u. I do play a lot of retro games. I still think my dreamcast games looks great at 480p on a crt monitor. To me gameplay will always top resolution. Framerate, well that's a different kettle of fish....

[lazyboyblue]

I don't tend to worry too much about resolutions. I play my gtx 770 based PC games at 900p on my 1080p TV because, for some reason, the lighting seems better and the blacks a lot deeper. The fact that I get to push the visual options and AA up as a result is a bonus.

[Emme]

News like this gimme the impression this generation wont last 7 years. I mean, the PROMISE was 1080p, so they could sell more of the new consoles. Now, more and more, its compromises all over the place: gfx quality, framerate, multiplayer etc.Actually I am pretty dissapointed that again, after the original xbox, the 360, the ps3, we STILL have to WAIT YEARS for games to really max out the console hardware. These are all pro developers, You cant tell me they need to "figure it out" AGAIN after 10 years of console development.Its all hardware, there is no magic button, its textures, polygons and effects on one unified hardware, whats so hard to figure out after You lived through three console cycles ??? I mean, imagine if car manufacturers would start each new model with "well, we need to figure out that thing about the wheels and the steering".

[windblowsagain]

I've bought every Battlefield. But I won't be buying this one.

Game play never sucked me in, like a true battlefield game.

It ran fine on my PC AND PS4 though.beta.

I'll wait for either BF5 or BBC3.

[IWasHere]

It's not the fault of PS4 or Xbox One. You should blame the developers. DICE did a better job with BF4 and this game came out in November 2013 and looks better!

PS4 AND Xbox One are capable to show better graphics than this.

[Fanboysarelosers]

Don't really care to be honest Oh it's 720! So what? Didn't stop me having lots of fun on BF4.HL beta was lame felt like DLC rather than a game .Will mayb pick it up in the Bargin bin.

[The_KELRaTH]

Why do these devs always have to overdo the effects and ruin what could be a smooth full HD game.

I'll be passing on this game too.

[Tapani]

(Off topic: I think the only games I will buy for PS4 are the exclusives. PC can handle the rest. Then again, I seldom buy multiplats.

It's just a bit baffling to buy PC for multiplats, PS4, Wii U and Xbox One for exclusives and then some gear and games. Then you need a big tv or projector, and good speakers/ headphones. Gahhhhh... I hate this hobby!)

On Topic: I wonder if DICE's engine is just sort of ported to PS4 and Xbox One instead of done ground-up for them...

[thexmanone]

So its confirmed. People no longer care about how the game plays. Its all about resolution. The gen is so sad.

[WilDRangeRfc]

I will stick to BF4 on my PS4 thanks

[BABY-JEDI]

I feel we're going back in time. Something like back to the future, if that makes sense. This has to be locked @ 60fps. Anything less, then I'm unleashing my ZX Spectrum LoL

[obz]

I'm a PC player (also own a PS4) and I find this rediculous. I've played Hardline. It's not a graphic intensive game. Games like The Order 1886, Driveclub run fine on the PS4 so this thing should be getting 1080p. Microsoft released many tools for the Xbox so that games won't be 720p. This is just a matter of poor optimization and a lack of change from the Battlefield 4 Engine. Definitely not buying this game.

Unacceptable.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

Cancelling my pre order.

Lol joke, loved the beta and never noticed lower res so I certainly won't in the full game. It's not all about pixels..

[Artemidorus]

720p discussions and it's 2015.

Either Xbox is poor or EA are lazy.

[Saijahn]

if the game works well that's all that will matter in the end. BF4 was gorgeous to look at but horrible to play.

[etownone]

Game will be great no doubt....

But... So disappointed in Next gen..
I really thought I'd be playing all my games at 1080p/60fps

Silly me

[WESKER2015]

so you also must of expected to pay a hell of a lot more than you did for your xbone/ps4?

[etownone]

Cmon... Last gen lasted what, 7-8 years.... I'm disappointed with this gen as far as specs.

[WESKER2015]

248 comments just for some resolution, the gamer is a dying breed, this is evident, they have been replaced by a bunch of whiny self entitled brats, not only are the new gen console built like Pc's the fanbase acts like some messed up PC master race too. another sad day in console gaming along with xbox one gamers getting fleeced, defo my last xbox and playstation consoles, the Wii U is like some angel

[Allshallperish1]

The beta for BHL played well and it looked fine on all systems so what are yall complaining about? I have never seen a downgrade in visuals after a beta. So think about what the beta looked like and that's what you will get for the full game. Fact

[bomboclaat_gamer]

next gen lol
im getting this for PC when it drops to <$10

[DarXyde]

I see some people suggesting 720p is unacceptable. Careful, mates. I seem to recall "1080p/60fps is the standard" once being the common thing to say until neither console could accomplish this for some games. Any console if pushed a certain way will come out to 720p. Even if the Xbox One version is 720p, the PS4 isn't pushing 1080p either. It's commonly stated the PS4 is more powerful so why is it unacceptable if one can't hit the same resolution? It doesn't make Xbox One look bad so much as it makes PS4 look more powerful. At least they aren't aiming for parity,which is what everyone's been demanding. If PS4 is hitting 720p, expect Xbox One to be sub-720p. If it hits 1080p, expect it to be sub 1080p, etc., etc.

Don't pretend to visual snobs if you just own a console.

Likewise, I'm not convinced that EA is utilizing the console resources efficiently. They're very prolific in their releases, so I imagine they don't have time to thoroughly optimize their games. I know, it's Visceral, but still.

[silvacrest]

damn, i thought with this gen e were done with 720p at the very least, guess not

[corroios]

The gpu of the ps4 is doing 50 por cent more then the xbox but it still not enough to reach 1080p. And yes we want fhd because everybody got one tv with that rez.

[iistuii]

Played the beta. The engine hasn't got any better on consoles, there's no AA, it's as jaggie as hell & looks pretty awful in places. I won't be buying it., I had the misfortune of months of crappy laggy gameplay on B4 on my PS4 & theres no way I'm giving them money for what's basically a mod for B4.

[TRS_Gear]

The only benefit to these sort of stories is to pander to the war between two sets of fanboys. It could be considered somewhat irrelevant news otherwise.

[romancer]

Wasn't impressed by the Beta of this offshoot from the main Battlefield games.
So pre-order was cancelled -- and it had nothing to do with frame rates.

I expect it will get lukewarm reviews, middling sales, and pass from the attention of most videogamers shortly thereafter.

[fayz]

they really need to update the engine for it to be optimized esram, deferred rendered games will always have problems on xbone. dice have still not said if they will be optimizing with dx12

[Tzuno]

In 2016 consoles will be 900p or 720p and 30 fps, in other words obsolete, no way you will see uncharted or halo or god of war and gears of war on 60 fps and 1080p. Consoles are fully AMD and that sucks.

[ScaryMonkey]

LOL, its now 2015 and xbone still cant compete.

[WizzroSupreme]

It's curious that after all these months EA still can't get it up to 1080p on either console.

[skratchy]

720? Really? So it's a 360 game, essentially. Lame.

[Macdaddy71]

Might laugh or trash talk 720 on X1... But ps4 owners should be crying for there God ole mighty most powerful system to only run at 900.... Now that's lmfao!!!!! I own pc, ps4 n X1.... We enjoyed the game the most on Xbox one,..so we will get 3 copies for x1

[KilKarazy]

Disappointing. BF4 was one of the only games that the difference between consoles was really noticeable. I wonder if they'll be able to bump up the XB1 version later.

[klarnet76]

For me it can be even 1p-no buy.garbage

[cruzngta]

So much for 10% kinect reserve unlock, new sdks, esram sdk, dx12, hololens and da infinite powah of da cloud!!!!!!! All of those factors AND...its STILL 720P on DA Bone!!!!!!

[damion1980]

And you think its a result that neither platform has progress? Really?

[kowan]

That's weird since the footage from some multiplayer matches looked really bad on the console versions, as in it didn't even look current-gen and now they're saying it can't reach native 1080p on BOTH consoles?

[Newsert]

This is kinda pathetic if you ask me. Doesn't bode well for the future of these "next gen consoles".

[keegamer80]

Is anyone even going to buy this?

[damion1980]

Shocking really, had an awful bug ridden release with BF4. Dice probably refused to make BF5 so soon with out fixing 4. EA jump developer and named it "Hardline" and compared it to bad company. And still had the cheek to just re-skin BF4.

I swear now my Gamertags are

PSN= DYNAMIC-DGT
XLIVE= THE BIG 360

If I buy for either I deserve to be spammed to death!!!!

[samchez77]

How is this resolution difference still news? It's apparent that nearly all games will sport this graphical divide. Should only be news IF the Xbox One can achieve parity.....which will be very rare inded.

[Yukonsbud]

Three words sum up why the resolution is the same as BF4...Greedy and Lazy