DirectX 12 and Mantle: Can they deliver movie quality?

Brad Wardell doubles down on claims that movie quality games are coming this generation.

[TheCommentator]

The difference in rendering lighting alone will seriously improve the visual fidelity of machines running full DX12.

Edit: I can't find the source to link, but someone in another thread linked an AMD slide presentation showing xbox one doing "hundreds of thousands of draw calls." According to this article, 50,000 is enough to run episode 1 at 24fps. We might actually get close to photorealism this gen after all. If someone can post the link that would be great.

[yarbie1000]

You can find it in the failed section among other DX12 articles. It was marked as duplicate, but you'd be hard pressed to find the duplicate article because they contained different info. Seek & ye shall find

[christocolus]

i think they will improve gaming alot. i wonder what surprises MS has in store for us at GDC though. from the article below, bradwaerdel lsted out some facs about DX12

http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

-600% performance increase on AMD cards running full DX12 game engine.
-CPU cores and their performance more important in the future games .
-Directx 12 on Xbox Nov.
-Directx 12 runs better than Mantle on AMD cards.
-Naysayers are eating crow!
-future Xbox cpu bound exclusives DX12 games to have these gains however dx12 games initially 30% gains as they transition from Dx11 to full new dx12 game engines using esram etc
-Not so much games for cross platform games.
-Fable Legends Dx12 game
-AMD/MS has mega DX12 news at GDC.
-Stardock developed Starswarm dx12 demo in 2 months. Starswarm would have similar performance gains on Xbox one i.e 600%. They have something major at GDC in the Microsoft booth.
-Stardock are developing DX12 game engine “Nitrous”. Star Control game will make sense console. They will license it to 3rd parties in future after they release 2 games on Nitrous engine.
-Phil Spencer managing expectations, as in November with DX12 on Xbox….. the games released then wont look much different then until the new DX 12 game engines.

That's impressive. Hopefully we will not only see movie qualit but we will also see some large scale battles with a lot of enemies on screen showing off great AI in games like Halo5,Assasins creed, Age of Mythology, Gears of War and maybe Scalebound.

[Bigpappy]

The lighting is what will have the biggest impact on visuals

[Big_Game_Hunters]

We are only talking graphics here right? honestly though i still think we have ways to go. I can still see an obvious difference between movies and games, that won't change this console gen for sure

[hiredhelp]

Wrong were not just talking graphics but performance HUGE performance gain.
Trust me on this one once all devs get DX12 kits and get couple years hands on we gonna see some mega awsomeness not this year maybe hint next year on couple games. But year after you be glad you gamer ps4 or xbox one or pc.
All these platforms have four or more cores and 8gb memory on both consoles this is what dx12 will utilize. Oh and mantle :)

[hiredhelp]

Lol love the disagrees i sat threw a hour long interview listening to how its going to work well dont say i didnt tell ya.

[thanhgee]

People probably are disagreeing because we haven't seen any real results, it is ALL talk and nothing more so far.

[TheCommentator]

Wardell's claims may be speculative, but anandtech did benchmark tests that confirm at least one of them is plausable. This bodes well for Wardell's other claims as it shows strength in his character. As far as "all talk" goes, click on the link in this thread(#1.1.1) - there's another link there direcly to anandtech's benchmarks, which are proof.

[ninjahunter]

I dont see much reason why not, other than it would be massively expensive.

[Iamnemesis4880]

Well as long as it is stable i dont care that much

[MasterCornholio]

I believe we are a long ways away from getting this on consoles or PCs.

http://avatarblog.typepad.c...

However I am starting to see consoles approach the level of Final Fantasy the Spirits Within where character model is concerned.

http://thecompanionscube.co...

http://gamingbolt.com/wp-co...

[Lennoxb63]

I hate how people don't want DX12 to actually work. Something that's going to push gaming forward. If gaming is your hobby, then you should want it to get better regardless of any airheaded fanboyism. That's like a skydiving enthusiast downplaying the safety of a parachute. How stupid would it be for a skydiver to say, "Oh this parachute won't open anyway."

[ChrisW]

IMO, movie quality gaming won't come this console generation, but most likely in the next generation. That is, if we are talking about Pixar quality graphics.

[FromTheAshes]

Seems nowadays AMD's Mantle doesn't even exist due to DirectX 12's hype despite Mantle coming out first with promising benchmarks.

[KingPin]

i dont care which one does it first....i just need one of them to do it so the other steps up its game to get it done knowing its possible.

that way everyone wins.

[Dario_DC]

I swear I heard the same thing when DX11 came out... We all saw how well that turned out... Oh well guess one can hope..

[snookiegamer]

DX12/Mantle will have a significant impact on performance gains. It's my understanding, those gains are expected in regards to Advances in Lighting, Shading and Physics etc. It's a Synergy, allowing GPU/CPU intensive task off loading, freeing up much time and resources for Devs.

I'm not a Developer. I'm simply able to read/understand the information relayed publicly by devs, interpreting/assessing that data as presented. Instead of clutching at straws, and making sh#t up ..Mass disillusion is verifiable ;/