Naughty Dog's Frank Tzeng talks about how games are getting closer to films in terms of quality, even suggesting that Nathan Drake's character model could be a digital-double in a real movie.
Ok, that got me even more hyped to see how the final build will look like and The Last Of Us 2. Minds will be blown. I cant believe ND is working on even another unannounced AAA game. I want to see that too. It makes me wonder how good God Of War IV will be.
When you click full size on that screen it is astounding.
What a load of crock. It looks noting like a CGI film at all. This fanboy hype train crap really needs some breaks. A second point, if the UC4 is getting 30FPS at current settings if it gets any better looking the next game will be 15FPS. I mean really, I'm just waiting for the PS4 games better than ray traced movies stories.
No it doesn't look like CGI. You are correct. Thanks for making that point. CGI looks as the acronym describes it to be - computer generated. Instead this is approaching absolute realism. Though the rest of your post was so much jealousy driven caterwauling, you are exact on that CGI issue. Thanks.
ND is comprised of two studios. The people that made The Last of Us, and the people that made Uncharted. Really excited to see what the non-Uncharted team is working on. Jak and Daxter, I hope (but doubt).
I thought the TLOU team is making U4 as they made U2 as well..? So the other team is actually the one that made U1 and U3? Correct me if I'm mistaken!
@Tapani I tried to Google it, but didn't find anything. I thought the The Last of Us people made the Last of Us remaster, though? Btw, I should correct myself. They're not two studios, but two teams. And the teams aren't completely independent either. I don't think they had this structure at the time of U1. I got the sense that the first time they had a second team working on anything, it was The Last of Us. I could be wrong, though.
I believe they are all (both teams) working on U4 to get it done (Brand game). Small group is prototyping a new unannounced game.
Umm no, Director Bruce Straley and creative director Neil Druckmann led The Last of Us, they took over the U4 when Amy Hennig left ND. They have 2 teams, having 2 teams in a studio does not make it 2 separate studios... Supposedly they have most of the staff on U4 atm with a group working on an unannounced game(not TLoU2)
@TFJVM I added that, but yes, you're right.
Druckman said it's more like a 1.5 team studio. The other project would be in early concept stages helmed by a smaller skeleton crew, once UC4 is finished the full team will pivot over to that title. So probably shouldn't expect rapid fire releases but they will definitely be on a solid release every 2-3 year schedule. This method is definitely working for them, can't wait to see what the next project is. I'm really hoping for that Savage Starlight sci-fi title to become a reality. Dead Space was one of my favorite franchises of last gen & I could only imagine what ND could do w/ a similar style. I'd imagine a lot of good space stuff, but true revolutionary worldbuilding upon visiting different planets. The sky's the limit (or not in this case) but I'd expect them to really create a crowning achievement in the slightly overcrowded sci-fi realm.
Next step - realistic physics and realistic interaction with surrounding world.
hate to break it to you pal, but that's where the xbox one with cloud computing will take over. PS4 is made for good graphics but it's not next-gen per say. they still use the "old way of programming" with better hardware. let's wait and see.
@Mozzie Thanks for the laugh.
@Mozzie "hat's where the xbox one with cloud computing will take over." No. It won't.
the unannounced AAA game names is " showtime " at least thats what the rumors tells
I believe thats a personal concept of one of the artists in ND but it looks great. I still hope it is that Sci fi game from The Last Of Us magazine, which i forgot the name to it.
@DarkOcelot Savage Starlight? Some people said it was teased in The Last of Us.
http://imgur.com/pHlcLx7 Can't wait 24fps!
Usually i would dislike a comment like that but that was really funny lol.
Interesting, why there is no news : "devs says Uncharted will be in few years"? This is what gaming media do with such phrases...
Naught Dog is an invaluable talent to this industry. It's a kid's dream to be able to play movies like I used to play games now.
that was probably only your dream as a kid i wanted to play actual games
this + TLOU2 = HAPPY MAN
You deserve an agree for that awesome avatar.
Well games are already running higher fps than films!
a long ass wait for U4.. but it will be worth it :)
I have a lot of respect for Naughty Dog after TLOU. But this is ASININE. You are now where near photorealisim. You are no where near a good rendered movie. Just stop it. It's a tablet processor and a low end gpu. Alienware Alpha is more powerful with its I3 and 860m. Dual 980s and a eight core $1000 Intel cpu are still 10 years from photorealisim.
No one using the advantage that pc has to offer...but this is difference from console developers you can have NASA Computer,but if no one has the time or the resources to do amazing games with the hardware,its not worth my 1000$
But PS4 is worth the $700 you'll spend just for the console and online features over 6 years? Not to mention that PC games cost substantially less, the library is 1000x larger, and has the ability to play almost every console game ever made (aside from PS4/Xbone... PS3 Emulation is making leaps and bounds). People who claim PC's are too expensive are fooling themselves.
#AndrewLB i can live with 700$ per 6 years to online game, but you claim pc can do mach more from consoles,imo if and when pc will do it i will need to upgrade evrey 2 years and pay that 700$... NOT many pepole can do emulation on pc...and this is not pirate games? I againts it,btw its takes years to do emulation,especially in this times What libray? please dont take me 10 years back to S.W.A.T game.pc has less quality games, a lot of them are independents games...consoles have much more high quality games,especially when its comes to AAA games
This is what happens when you deeply optimize the hardware. In the PC world there is an attitude that the user can always upgrade so no need to optimize deeply, besides there's too many hardware combos out there that makes it difficult to optimize it completely (what's optimized for one hardware config may make another one perform worse)
Someone didn't click the link
When it comes to PS4, DougLord doesn't do his research. He spreads fallacy after fallacy after bitter fallacy. He sees a PS4 exclusive headline, or a No Man's Sky headline, or an Uncharted 4 headline or a The Order: 1886 headline and reacts to.... the headline. The hate simply flows through him.
@DougLord Well if a "tablet processor and low end gpu" can put high end PC games to shame then its more than just specs and more of the studio developing the game and the art style approach. If only PC had developers like ND...
LOL only because those specs will never get AAA games made specifically for them. You would be beyond naive if you don't think those pieces of tech couldn't make photo-realistic graphic quality if they were in a console like the PS4. Probably look better than reality, just being honest..
Why is this under my XBox One tab again???
like i said before its not all about the most expensive tech you got if the games dont use it properly its the people making the games and if a company said were making a game based only on the gtx 980 then yes you will see the most amazing things happen.
Not only ND will break boundaries with Uncharted 4, Infamous SS already reach CGI levels and is an open world game all running in full HD, Evolution just created a racing game that not even a high end PC can matched its unbelievable visuals, what I'm trying to say is that the PS4 will continue to own this gaming generation until the very end of this console cycle, and who knows what will happen with PS5.
Consoles - epic results through optimization to achieve great visuals. PC - the highest possible outcome visually, performance and basically the height of what's possible for gamers... however, games are made for consoles then ported most of the time. Not many devs put as much attention on PC games like ND do in their exclusives. Also, due to this... modders end up bringing most of the potential from PC. It's no argument, PC is "better" but consoles are absolutely fantastic considering they are miles away on paper technically! GTA V for example. Made for consoles, released later on PC looking better. I love console harming and PC gaming, but you guys shouldn't really continuously argue over it, its obvious how it is and the pros/cons to both!
Sorry dude, bs excuse. Games are not just made for CONSOLES. PC games have had their own games that you could not get it on console. CRYSIS is a good looking game and there are many others. I have a decent PC and play BF3/BF4 and many others over the years. The Power of PC'S has been there for along time, but hardly ever used, then there's DIRECTX is has been long overdue a real update. DX12 FOR PC. not x1. People waffling on about GTA5. Characters look plastic, car physics are awful. Scale is very good and it has a decent lighting system, But it's a kids game, no matter how much swearing is in it.
I didn't say all games, I said "most". That's fact. I didn't say there are no PC exclusives. GTA was my example, a hugely popular game... made for consoles, ported... improved w,e for PC. PC's will never really be fully realised. Fact. Naughty dog developing a truly exclusive PC title, in dev for 2-3 years would blow away anything seen on PC. That I'm certain of, if they can produce results we've seen on console, that can rival PC.... For the experience, PC > console For 75% of the devs and accessibility, which is a massive portion of all gamers, console > PC I don't need a list of what games run epic on PC lol, I own one too!
thats all well and good but..can they please make him look like drake now?
Film quality or not this game is gonna epic. UC 2 is still my favorite in the series and hopefully UC4 will be as good if not better.
We could be there right now if someone made a console with good specs in mind and could get people to shell out the money to buy it. I would gladly purchase a PS5 for $1200 if it had really good specs in it. Not even focusing on the latest and greatest tech right now, but could any of you imagine what PlayStation games could look like if they had maybe a GTX 680, a SSD and maybe a 3770k in them? The graphical quality would put everything you have ever seen to shame. That's including any PC game ever made, i.e Crysis 3 on Ultra, Metro on Ultra, Star Citizen. See because those games looks great only if your PC has enough brute strength(better specs)to push it. Crysis 3 looks amazing on my PC because I have dual GTX 780ti and a i7 4770k but it wasn't MADE with those specs in mind and recieved next to no optimization for an SLI set-up. If they can do what they're doing now, i.e The Order: 1886, UC4 and Driveclub with a laptop CPU and mid-range GPU.... I can only imagine what top-notch first party Sony devs could do with high-end specs. Your mind would endlessly be blown. We're talking uncanny valley material folks. This is what PC gamers like me and others truly wish for. A console with great specs even for a high-end PC that gets the treatment of games being made specifically with them in mind and the crazy optimization that working right to metal breeds. You would literally get games that would LOOK better than the best tech demo you could think of, especially if they don't want to do 60 fps. So sad no company has the balls to do this, especially given the way the PS3s price(way ahead of it's time at launch)was orginally recieved by even Sony's most hardcore fans. Such a shame...
"Really close to film right now"... Errr No it isn't. These devs sure know how to spit tripe for idiot fanboys to lick up. Will Uncharted 4 look good? By all means yes, but film quality my bollocks. Games still don't look as great as the original TOY STORY from the mid 90s, let alone actual photo-realistic cgi projects in the past 15 years. Hell anything on consoles now, have a hard time looking like CRYSIS 3 max settings, and running at anything more solid than 25 bloody fps. So give me a break with the hyped lies. Will graphics start reaching high CGI quality in a few years? Perhaps, but that certainly WON'T be done on a PS4.
i love naught dog, but they have gotten way to cocky
You are one of the few on this thread that makes any sense. Why do fanboys lie to themselves about what their eyes are telling them? We are years if not decades away from realism, get a grip.
Games are not suppose to be movies. I don't want movie quality I want game quality. Some devs now a days long to make movies, not fun "interactive" experiences.
Heard that before in 1998...
This is the developer that said 30fps feels broken, then can't get the game to run at 60fps?
I don't like Sony, but give credit where it's due. The image quality is outstanding, and far more important than 60fps when making a cinematic experience. Heck, cinema only runs at 24fps. ND is still going to push the hardware to the limits of coding at this time and it shows.
This game will not be released this year. Its an outright lie to attempt to sell underpowered hardware incapable of 60fps with next gen quality textures. The ps4 will not achieve anything more than 30 fps with any PC competent textures. I messed up buying one instead of building a PC. Forgoe the 30 fps exclusives and build a PC if you haven't already made the same mistake I did. And don't even get me started talking about Xbox done. It isn't worth a mention.
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