The Order: 1886 – Another ‘next-gen’ letdown or a victim of poorly chosen demos?

Dealspwn writes: There’s something not quite right with The Order: 1886. It’s undeniably gorgeous, a testament to the power under the hood of the PS4, but having played it at expos and press events and watched extra footage, many are struggling to form an attachment to the game. Where there should be a giddy urge to have the game in our lives as soon as possible, which should be a part of any AAA console-exclusive, we find ourselves struggling to gather much enthusiasm for Sony’s first big game of 2015. Given the rather lacklustre gameplay scenes we’ve seen so far, we can’t help but think that Sony has decided on some oddly dull demos to try and hook us journos and gamers in. Are they avoiding spoilers, or does The Order: 1886 just not have that much to show?

[Fro_xoxo]

Neither. .

They are clearly avoiding spoilers. .

If you want more footage you'll have to wait till release.

Personally, I like the mystery. .

[Ballsack]

Lol these 'journalists' and I use the word loosely

'struggling to gather enthusiasm' ..maybe because you have alterior motives like bashing a game you have maybe played for ten minutes if that for hits

Weirdly enough gamers are not struggling for enthusiasm as the order has topped pre order charts..an i for one cant wait to delve into this title

[vishmarx]

as generic and boring these journos think the game is, they sure do love writing about it

[Kingthrash360]

I dont get the disagrees.
they've been bashing this game far too much even when it was far from release.
if it looks boring to you then its your opinion. If you dont like qtes then its also your opinion. But your opinion isn't fact.
I dont like minecraft. A record selling game, that just looks plain boring to me...bad graphics. ..no story...not for me.
Do I think its a bad game...no I dont. I know its a great game, its just not MY type of game.
This is the first time ive even mentioned minecraft in any post. Because my opinion Is irrelevant due to the fact that 1 ive never played it and 2 I dont like its 1st imperession enough to even try it.
thats the level that these journalists are at. To say something looks boring or you hate the Pacing of a game you haven't played only seen or touched a incomplete demo of is just plane opinion .. ill wait till it comes out ...buy it day 1 and make my own judgment on the game...so tired of people bashing this game but didn't see the signs of tragically released games like ac:unity or bashed Ryse for its qte kills...or even mention the fact that quantum break has basically the same game using slowmotion gameplay, and qtes.
(Qb looking as fun to play as 1886 btw)....these future seeing journalists need to relax a bit becuse the more the bash the game the more "I told you so" articles will come even if it turns out to be a great game..because they hate to eat crow.

[breakpad]

why they all expect super massive quality hits from the first year of a console ? it is only the first year and all speak for letdown and failure for a game that seems exceptionally good (ok maybe it s not the game that cause tremors but its a solid AAA game worth the rational hype ) ..why all that bashing before even the release of the game

[freshslicepizza]

aside from the graphics what exactly is compelling about it other than ps4 owners waiting anxiously for another good aaa exclusive? bloodborne looks a lot better to me.

[SpringHeeledJack]

What is with all the attacks on this game, trying influence and put ideas into reviewers just before release?

This game is going to do really well in Europe with it's dark Victorian setting and werewolves.

[morganfell]

dealspwn - Another typical trash blog or the victim of porrly educated writers posting flamebait articles?

@vishmarx,

Precisely. But then again they are little more than remoras.

[stuna1]

I gave you a well said, because what you said was "Well Said!" And I don't get all the disagrees either. It sad when people are so wrapped up in their warpped mental states, that they can't even acknowledge a fair comment.

[360ICE]

"maybe because you have alterior motives like bashing a game you have maybe played for ten minutes if that for hits"

How is that an ulterior motive? That's not a motive, that's an action.

And to be fair to them, I didn't like the one demo I played that much either. Could still be a pretty decent game. But next to Uncharted, it just looks grounded, heavy and felt a little bit clunky.

Then again Uncharted is awesome.

[StarLord_Who]

@Kingthrash360

That's you opinion, thats good but the people trying to rebuttle against The Order 1886 criticism are 99% people who haven't played it yet and they are only judging it by the 30 mins/12 hours of gameplay footage. In this case, those opinions shouldn't count, subjectivity has no place in selling a game, only buying one.

People are really losing grasp of their adjectives, there are more words than amazing and terrible. Try the word worried, because a lot of professonals are with The Order 1886

Nawwwwwww are they skitting your console??? hmmm? your precious console?? I have a ps4 and a brain so that feeling is always negated.

[nix]

dealspwn.com

Story Quality: WTF.
Like this website: NO.

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@kingtrash360

"if it looks boring to you then its your opinion. If you dont like qtes then its also your opinion. But your opinion isn't fact."

... https://www.youtube.com/wat...
not trying to make the article look like fact either, just found it funny.

Even though I mainly play on PS4 and could be considered a fan of sony..though not a "Fanboy"(becuase I dont like being assiciated with some of the overzelous people online...and esp here on N4G who feel that everything sony produces is absolute gold and should appeal to EVERYONE). Even I'm not picking up The Order right away like so many others, why? because of three reasons... First being it looks a bit too linear, looks to have limited replayability and last, but more minor gripe ..I dont like how this game is turning out to have a low framerate. I like the fact its a story driven game, but I don't see much replayability after completing it, at a gut level.

Before I knew it was single player I was really excited for this game since they gave a premise of team/squad based game, I wanted this to be a great single player/online story co-op game..that to me would have been enough replayability and made sense for the type of squad/based story game its trying to be...without even adding a traditional plyr vs plyr multiplayer. That said the game standing on its own as just a single player game..dosen't sound like something I would pick up day 1.. maybe later on down the road when its cheaper.

I think most of those issues can be attributed to the studios relatively small size compared to other first party studios and their first attempt on console, so maybe I will be more excited about the sequel if it adds adds some online co-op and general replay-ability if this one does well.

But, like I said in the beginning... that's just like, my opinion man.

[OB1Biker]

This game is going to be a huge success and the only ones going down the toilets will be these so called gaming journalists,
The sad thing is lazy jounalism from trolling sites like this one or gaminbot are damaging gaming journalism and you really need to follow writers to be able to put some faith in their opinions.

[wsoutlaw87]

I don't usually see writers constantly talking about a game they feel is just what ever. Plenty of games get average reviews, why the hate for the order which is a new ip from a new to aaa console dev.

[Spid3r6]

Sony Fanboys have their Ryse.... BTW Ryse was a hell of a good game and everyone bashed it because people thought it was all QTE which really was not the case. They were just finishing moves and you can choose whether you wanted to finish him or continue till their bar would run out of health. I remember the article hitting Ryse really hard like the one where the author stated that "Ryse is as fun as dialing number on your phone" By no means do I think the Order will be a bad game but I don't think is going to be as good as we all thought it would be just like DriveClub and Killzone. Graphics cant hold a candle on story and gameplay.

[DARK WITNESS]

@ StarLord_Who

you are complaining about the people bashing the game based on an opinion they have formed even through they have not played the game... Yet the people defending are also basing their opinion on footage they have seen even though they have not played it.

how do you know it's going to be soooo amazing or ground breaking?... just because it "looks" like the sort of game you like?

If people can form an opinion that the game is going to be amazing, even though they have not played it, what's wrong with people forming an opinion based on the same footage that everyone has used to assume it's going to be awesome, that the game is boring, dull etc?

I am just saying...

personally, I have zero interest in the game. My money is going on bloodborne for feb. There are a lot of games that I think look rubbish that I have never played. If we are honest about it how many people go out and buy every single game to decide if they are going to like it or not? That is crazy.

That's the whole reason people play demo's and devs release footage of their games and so on.

[spicelicka]

That's extremely optimistic thinking. The game isn't going to get spoiled by showing a bit of footage. This is how the game is most likely going to be, for people that like it, great, for people that don't they shouldn't get their hopes up too high.

Game demos are meant to show what the game will be, please stop with the "oh they don't want to reveal anything". If you compare it to the Uncharted 4 demo it looks like a joke, we got a whole lot of features shown in the Uncharted demo, and it shows how the game will look and play, and it looks awesome which is why you don't have any articles bashing it.

For me personally, it seems like a game I'd borrow or rent. I like a bit of choice and sandbox environments. Even Uncharted was too linear for me, but the puzzle-solving and platforming made up for that.

[Tetsdah]

But ultimately if ya into more sandboxy games, it's not gonna be your style of game either way. Really they have to keep their cards, if they do have them, close to their chest because it's a linear game and it'll take away the mystery of the game if you show off too much. It's entirely possible what this writer is writing possibly be the case of just bad demos. Or it could be the alternative as well.

The comparison to Uncharted is interesting because it's an established franchise that doesn't mind showing much of itself because it already knows what to work with and has a multiplayer component that the game can fall on if ya don't like the singleplayer. And you did have a couple of articles nitpicking it's linearity, one of which was a hot article a while back.

Either way, the skepticism and such will build for the The Order because it's a new ip and been having poor demos that's constantly being put out in the hands of the critics. I think even if the gameplay turns out to be pretty solid, the critics are still probably gonna slam it for playing it too safe. And plus it's getting their sites a lot hits, after all it's still in N4G's most discussed games.

[No_Limit]

I have no expectation for this game but let see how the reviews are. Since Sony is charging us $50 a year for online play, you would think they would include some MP function for more of their games to give value to us subscribers. $60 ain't cheap and just like inFamous SS, which I traded in after 10 days after beating it, it is one and done and no replay value whatsoever for these Single player only game.

[iceman06]

What does Sony charging for access to online have to do with creating a single player experience??? I mean, I get that you would like to have multiplayer in the game. But, tying that to paying for online is just ridiculous. It was a design decision (maybe based on the fact that this is RaD's first console game, or time...whatever) simple as that. Not to mention that replay value in single player games often comes from enjoying the game play mechanics or certain set pieces within the narrative, etc. I enjoy a good multiplayer experience as much as the next person. But, I also believe that there is room for just a great single-player game. Let's just see if The Order is great or not.

[Jumper09]

Yup
Sony really needs to create some good Multiplayer games or add Multiplayer to their IPs.

The Order would probably be a great Coop Shooter. But yeah...

[DigitalRaptor]

You can tell really who the "new school gamers" are these days.

I remember a time where single player games were played through again rather than relying on unnecessary shoehorned multiplayer, just to tick a box for marketing. $60 isn't cheap, but it's been a standard acceptable cost for single player only games for years, and if you've been around the block, so to speak, $60 for a single player experience should be no skin off your nose.

My library from last gen still consists of Uncharted 1, BioShock, God of War, Shadow of the Colossus, Bayonetta and many more. Games that I play regularly regardless of no multiplayer. You'd have to be mad casual these days to think that multiplayer should be a requirement.

It will be interesting to see what your opinion of Quantum Break will be. Why has Remedy not bloody shoehorned in multiplayer? Stupid devs, not knowing what's best for their game is multiplayer EVERYWHEREEEEE.

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@ Jumper09

There are already more multiplayer games on PS4 than any other console this gen. Both of you need a strong dose of reality.

[TFJWM]

Who pays 60 a year for PS+ in the US I have never paid more than 35 + tax

[DeadlyFire]

If that is how you feel you Shouldn't buy single player only games until they are 20 bucks or less.

[airsick7]

Like Digital Raptor said, most of my favorite games are single player only. Legend of Zelda, Mario 64, Skyrim, Fable, Kotor, Bioshock 1, Metroid Prime, Pikmin, Shadows of the Colossus, hell even Shadows of Mordor last year.

Cramming some generic online play into a game is never a good thing, but they do it more and more these days to satisfy guys like you.

I didn't trade my Super Mario 3 in after I beat it the first weekend. I re-played it many many times... in fact, I still play the cartridge 25 years later.

[Jumper09]

Lol "avoiding spoilers"...

The game is probably very short, thats why they dont show much.

[TFJWM]

I don't think 10-12 hours is short

[harrisk954]

How about these so-called journalists wait until they have a game to review. It would be like a book reviewer reviewing a book after reading one chapter or reviewing a movie based upon the trailer. This game may not look innovative, but other games that do the same thing (ie, linear, story driven experience) and get a pass... No one rips apart Uncharted or Tomb Raider like this.And none of these websites have played the full game yet. They are all going into this with an undeserved bad predisposition toward this game. From what I see around the web, the more people see off this game, the more excited they seem to get.

[smoothop]

It goes both ways, people are quick to bash it like you say, but people are quick to claim its going to be brilliant. I say everyone should hold off a bit longer and actually see if its any good.

[otherZinc]

The Order 1886 is a letdown:

It's 2015
The Order 1886 has:
No Campaign Co-op
No Online Play
No Multiplayer
No Horde Mode
It's a Movie
It's Linear
Does have QTEs though
Pop-up AI

Yeah, all that missing, it sure is a letdown to me. I want more for $60. There are no options in this game. If there are, what are the options in The Order Of 1886?

Multiplayer wouldn't be shoehorned in as there are 4 characters in the damn game!

[ziggurcat]

please explain how a game you won't play on a system you don't even own is a "letdown"?

[RealtorMDandDC]

Yes, it's 2015. Most games are linear tho COD, Battlefield, just to name a few. I love Last of US but I don't play the MP mode.

Because there's not a multiplayer component calling The Order 1886 a let down seems like a hard stance that I do understand.

I feel the same way about the Xbox One being a let down because it's 2015 and Microsoft's game library is a joke considering my library of games in Full HD except for Killzone due to a slight technicality.

[LordMaim]

otherZinc, I expect you to post the very same complaints about Quantum Break when it ships.

It's 2015
Quantum Break has:
No Campaign Co-op
No Online Play
No Multiplayer
No Horde Mode
It's a TV Show
It's Linear
Does have QTEs though
Pop-up AI

But you won't, because your comments have nothing to do with The Order, and everything to do with your comment history. The game just went gold a few days ago, and no reviewer anywhere has a complete copy of the game. Aside from being highly slanted, this article is based on the same demos that have been available to the public for a year and not on any insider information that the public wouldn't have.

Once review copies get into legitimate journalists' hands, then we'll see what they have to say. Till then, that site doesn't know any more about The Order than you do.

[glennhkboy]

All sane developer/publisher have tour their best game-mechanism as best as they can. On one ever thought that part as spoiler. Just look at WB/ Monolith talk about their Nemesis system for months before the release of the Shadow of Mordor.
So I guess Sony really think the the graphic is the best to offer in the Order.

[theBSdectector]

But if a bunch of people play it and think it sucks, then that should be a clue as to avoid it regardless of fanboy devotion. I wouldn't need to play 2 hours of a game to give you an honest opinion. Let me try a game and within 15 minutes I can tell you if it's garbage, and that takes control schemes and everything into consideration

[Run_bare]

I wonder why they did not bash AC unity before and after release.

[bjmartynhak]

Yes,

And let me add:

Victim of people wanting a game that this is not.

I wont' get tired of saying this: this is a 3rd person cover shooter, very linear, very story-driven. If this is not your thing, stop getting disappointed with this game. It's not for you.

[Tzuno]

To be honest there is nothing new to play on PS4 so yes people take whatever they release without a thought, i am not saying that is not good but what else is out there?

[gedden7]

Lmao @ clearly avoiding spoilers lol... What could they be hiding?? Its the gameplay that sells games not the story. Even if the story was perfect the game what will sell the game. All this is gears of war bad ai and quick time event. Lmao spoilers... If Sony doesn't pay for great reviews this should get 6s - 7s at best...

[bubblebobble]

just hope its not haze 2015 anybody remember that halo killer by the way this is coming from a huge sony fan

[Hellsvacancy]

Surely you should of seen enough gameplay by to know if The Order is for you or not, I personally think it look great

Mustaches ftw

[CocoWolfie]

how much werewolf/lycan footage have we seen too? XD that shit is *unexplainable words*

[Kingthrash360]

How many games today have werewolfs in them? Dang bro....you want more zombies?
There hasn't been a decent werewolf in a game since altered beasts. (Altered beast shout out? ....yes.)
How much mushroom footage do we see in mario?
how much gun reloading footage to we see in any fps ever?
how much climbing footage have we seen in assassin's creed?
How do you have a problem with werewolf footage?
Lol kids these days.

[CocoWolfie]

@kingthrash360 im... excited, thats why im saying how much have we seen? like none, that shit is unexplainable words because of how excited i am -.-

[Kingthrash360]

Oh...mabad.
I stand corrected..still, I now want to play altered beasts lol

[CocoWolfie]

@kingthrash360 dont worry its alright :') haha yeah same actually

[Nathan170]

If the story and length of the game are good this game might be rated between 8-9,
Personally, I believe this game will be good but not a system seller.

[Walker]

a victim of poorly chosen demos, exactly . i know this game is gonna be epic just like uncharted

[ginsunuva]

I think (hope) this game will be more like Resistance Fall of Man. The brown/gray colors, crazy weapons with secondary fire modes, and alternate-timeline England make it hard to believe they weren't consciously thinking of RFOM during development.

Finally, RAD give us what Insomniac refused to (even though R2 & R3 were good in their own ways).

[smoothop]

How do you know that its going to be epic? You're just as bad as the people bashing it, from what I have seen on the game so far the gameplay looks weak, graphics are great and I wouldn't have the foggiest if the story is any good.

[Relientk77]

This game is gonna be sick

[purp13m0nk3y]

Pretty much my mentality too bro. Yes the visuals look insane, but what has me the most excited is the story and the setting.

Second most anticipated release of this year. Second only to No Mans Sky with UC4 a close third!

[EvilWay]

How come everytime someone says something bad about a specific game they get called "bad journalists" or "wrong."? Why can't people express there opinion anymore. Just because it is an exclusive to your console which has gotten a lot of criticism does not mean they are wrong, they have the right to think that way seeing recent game history.

On Topic: I think this game has great potential. I honestly don't know how this game will be I look forward to trying it out. This game might have shown some bad gameplay and it turned some people off I think they game will play better than the trailers and gameplay so far show

[AndrewLB]

Hold up there! You're not allowed to present counter arguments, screenshots, or anything factual that refutes the anti-Sony article. You have to focus on the site itself... either calling it hack journalism, click-bait, or claim it's nothing but salty xbots and any articles from the site should be banned. And don't forget to down-bubble anyone who uses facts backed by links to a source. They must be silenced at all cost!

[BitbyDeath]

Because if anyone here wrote it mods would mark it as trolling. N4G double standards.

[ceballos77mx]

I think its because these journalist want to pass their opinion as fact, and frankly this game gets a hate article once a day.

As other console exclusives, I'm pretty sure by october or early november the uncharted 4 hate articles will appear.

I do miss the old open zone...

[Rhythmattic]

I also miss the old open zone...

N4G is great at collating gaming news from around the web... thats its purpose and a reason I visit frequently , but its become a forum of "Yay or Nay"

Fanboy Fodder.

Im with you ceballos, Main posting where the gamers were just that, and the Open Zone for all the "I've got pubes" talk.

[averagejoe26]

Why?

Because the journalist is clearly biased. Saying things like "no fans are getting excited for this game", " no one is building an attachment to the game", etc. When clearly many, many people are excited for this game.

He isn't just giving his opinion. He's being biased and lying. There has been nowhere near the negativity from ps4 fans over this game as he says there is. He isn't being objective. He isn't telling the truth....aka a bad journalist.

[Snookies12]

Exactly, the game looks great. I'm not usually into shooters, but this one has me hooked. I wish I could get some info as to why people think it's going to be 'bad'. Everything looks solid to me. It seemed like everyone was pumped when its first trailer came out, then they all turned on it. Despite the fact that it looks better than before. I went from not really caring, to hyped for it.

[pompous]

You'd have a point if they actually played the game, but no one has so they don't have any place to criticize it yet. Playing a small teaser isn't the game nor is it a demo. Once they do then they can say whatever they want. Also it's a Sony game so these kind of articles are the norm for their exclusives.

[starchild]

So from now on no game should be judged until it is released?

Sure. That never stopped people from hating on previous games even before they were released. The purpose of Demos and previews has always been to show what a game is about. Now we're supposed to just ignore all that until the game is released?

[DigitalRaptor]

The facts lie in front of you, that conflict with the journalist's misinformation.

This writer is saying that there is a problem based on "many people struggling to form an attachment", despite most of the new previews having actually been POSITIVE, and when common sense implies that with it being a story-driven game, they're not going to show big chunks of story pre-release. The best bits lie in wait for the player who wants to experience a rollercoaster from start to finish.

The "concern" is absolutely pathetic, when all that has been experienced is a TINY slice of the game, and yet most people have said that it has "solid" gameplay. Where is this concern coming from if not from the the deeply misinformed or the trolls?

Additionally, where are the almost weekly negative articles for Quantum Break, like we've been seeing with The Order? Remedy's game is coming out this year, probably in a few months, and still we've seen almost nothing but generic cookie-cutter third person action shooter gameplay (that apparently wowed people), when the game is promising some spectacular never before seen gameplay, and the live-action series that they promised hasn't shown itself since the reveal trailer.

Where in the world is the criticism for that game? Why are people not "concerned" about that game? Why is it one of the Xbone's most anticipated games when we've seen like 15 mins of footage in total, and none of it looks as promised.

The game will be linear. That game will have cutscenes. That game will be generic third person shooter action. But it will get a free pass from the same journalists hating on The Order. Then you might see why these journalists are getting so much criticism.

[Bennibop]

Well said! You are correct they have been very selective as there are many very positive previews. RAD are obviously limiting what people know about the game as they do not want to ruin the story and you are right about Quantum Break nothing has been shown and there is not the same outcry.

[OB1Biker]

The latest demo is great and also the trailers hyping the game but they just choose to ignore anything good about this game. Clearly a trolling article which is not unusual from this site.
I mean at least give it a chance until you get a copy to review. Would seem fair enough and professional.

[harrisk954]

Because some of these blogger sites that present themselves as some sort of journalists write articles with titles like this: "Another ‘next-gen’ letdown" .... Seriously? The game is not out yet. Let's see it before saying "letdown" or "failure"...

[knickstr]

It comes out next month, we'll know then. Tired of hearing how great or how bad this game is going to be based off of a short demo.

[telekineticmantis]

Doubt the game will be great, but it has shown some exciting peaks, here and there. Only 8-12 hours, no MP, No Co-op? Don't get me wrong, a game doesnt have to be lengthy to be great (I just enjoyed the free Download of Infamous First Light, then the 20+ hours I put into Dragon Age Inq), but 60 dollars for a 8-12 campaign that'it?!

[Blackleg-sanji]

But then you got 60 game's like destiny (cant play offline) titanfall (no single player) and evole (again no single player plus doesn't seem to have enough content) so y only the order gets the $60 argument

[WeAreLegion]

$20 for a 2 hour movie is alright, but $60 for an 8 hour game isn't? The math doesn't add up here.

[ps4gamer1983]

I don't like movies that much so I refuse to pay $20. I have netflix for less (still don't watch it). So why would I pay $60 for an 8 hour movie? Games are not movies and vice-versa.

Honestly, I like games that have high replay value. No branching paths, all tight corridors/spaces, 8 hours (i'll finish in 2 evenings), no multiplayer/co-op (not necessary in every game but money is tight man and my wallet is already stretched due to so many quality games coming out, like MGS 5, Zelda U, Uncharted 4, Witcher and Bloodborne--all are games that will have some form of lasting replayability and have long campaigns the first time around).

[Outthink_The_Room]

Film is an entirely different medium. It doesn't go bad in a couple years, whereas games start to look worse when newer technologies arrive.

Nobody looks at the movie Unforgiven from 1992 and says it doesn't look good.

How many games from 1992 hold up as well as that film does? Not to mention, I can take that same DVD from 15+ years ago and still play it today.

How many remasters did we get this gen so far? How much are you spending to play that older game on PSNow?

Legacy in video games do not stand the test of time the way film does. Movies from the 30s and 40s and 50s still hold up to this day. Games do not retain the same value that film does. $20 for something that'll last me 15-20 years, or $60 for 8 hours and will need to be repurchased next gen.

The cost ratio of film to video games is such a bad analogy.

[ger2396]

So it's confirmed that it's only 8 hrs long?

[LamerTamer]

The graphics don't even look that great. It is just dark and foggy with blurry textures. After the recent downgrade it looks even worse. The uniforms/character models that were super detailed now look simple and have a lack of detail. Detail was removed from the environments too which is strange given the reduced 800 line resolution instead of 1080. You have those HUGE and obtrusive black bars obscuring 1/4 of your screen to cut down on resolution because the engine is so weak (don't give me that "cinematic" excuse, you are already playing on a "cinematic" aspect ratio widescreen TV!).

Then you have all of the QTEs which is just a copout for real gameplay. Why should devs have to do real AI and combat and have enemies react to your moves? That is just too much work for those lazy bastards. Just time a button press and then cue in some pre-done pass/fail cutscene, much easier. QTEs are crap and should be killed with fire never to be used again.

I don't care about MP at all honestly but 8 hours for a campaign? That is terribly short. If you are going to make a SP game that is fine but then the campaign should at least be 20 hours long. 8 Hours? you can beat that game in a couple of nights, barely more than those anemic COD campaigns! No way is that worth $60.00, maybe $40 tops, rental is best.

[Mr Lahey]

You seem to know alot about this game! You surely have lots of opinions about it. And you feel the need to tell everyone this because..?

[JustAnotherTruther]

-Linear game with no multiplayer aspect

-Combat looks generic and too many QTE's

-Hollywood inspired game which is NEVER good for gaming.

This game better have an AMAZING story mode, otherwise, how can I spend $65 on a linear game with no multiplayer? Just not worth the money. Should be $40.

[Sevir]

Just don't buy it or Quantum Break for that matter, because it's a.

-Linear game with no multiplayer aspect

-Combat looks generic and too many QTE's (Subjective opinions)

-Hollywood inspired game which is NEVER good for gaming.(Subjective Opinions)

[Blackleg-sanji]

Lol thats actually a good point even has a tv show with it.

[averagejoe26]

Linear with no multiplayer being a negative is also part of his subjective opinion.

[ps4gamer1983]

Well I value my own subjective opinion when i'm the one who has to pay for it. So i'll wait for reviews first (Especially user reviews) because QTE's, Linear gameplay and 8 hour campaign with little replay value is not exactly making me want to cough up $60. No offense to anyone who wants the game, but I'll wait to get it a day late if at all. I felt the same about Destiny after being an Alpha and Beta tester and I am glad I waited because that game was totally overrated. Same with Watchdogs.

[Outthink_The_Room]

There's no multiplayer in QB? Is that confirmed?

[BallsEye]

Quantum Break looks nothing like the order gameplay wise. How can you even compare? If you want to compare it to anything it feels like another Ryse: Son of Rome, beautiful graphics, awesome story, poor repetitive gameplay.

[Snookies12]

I don't get this 'linear' argument. From what I've heard it's got plenty of space in the areas to move around. Anyway, how many games back in the day were 'linear', yet still amazingly fun? It's ridiculous to bash a game for being linear when you haven't even played through it yet.

[ger2396]

You don't have to. Besides it might be one of the best single player campaigns in a while. But it also can turn out to be a complete turd. We'll know soon enough.

[andibandit]

Im "Holding X to bash game",

Is it working??

[DougLord]

Maybe the trailers are indicative of the game, and maybe the game will only appeal to a certain segment that likes QTEs and cutscenes. Look at Telltale. Wolf Among Us, Walking Dead, Game of Thrones. If the plot and characters are good we can get past the Press X, Hold Y thing.

However Telltale doesn't ask you to pay $65 for just 8 hours of video and QTEs. This game and No Man's Sky look like games that should cost $9.99 or $19.99

[strauser360]

How does this game relate in any way to the game 'No Man's Sky' ?

[Majin-vegeta]

It doesnt he;s just been constantly trolling these two games non stop.I think they might have hurt his dog or something....

[Blackleg-sanji]

Its on ps4 thats all the ammo he needed

[guyman]

Why are there so many goddamn trolls commenting on this articles?

[Jaqen_Hghar]

This game is closer to Gears or Uncharted in cinematic elements. Lots of TPS with QTE in between. No problem with that in those games right? How about TLoU it had nice open TPS/stealth sections with QTE and cinematic elements in between.

[DigitalRaptor]

- Just as many QTEs as Uncharted and TLOU.

- Just as many cutscenes as Uncharted and TLOU.

- Probably just as many shooting/combat segments as Uncharted and TLOU.

Troll harder Doug. The game is the most pre-ordered in the US charts and will sell past your hilarious expectations, just like LBP3 did when it outsold Sunset Overdrive and Forza Horizon 2.

[JustAnotherTruther]

Also, of course a pro SONY/PlayStation site will adore and hype this game. The game would have to not even be functional for it to receive criticism. Heck, even then the fanboys would probably praise it. They did it with Drive Club, why not this?

[ceballos77mx]

As any Xbox site praised the MCC, with broken MP release.

[Blackleg-sanji]

Yea cuz 9s and 10s across the board for a game with a broken multiplayer isnt bias or anything just stop

[Sevir]

Gaming journalism is sinking to tabloid drivel sensationalism levels.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Or a good game? Is that not an option?

[GNCFLYER]

Journalists (MS fanboys) know this is a big sony exclusive so they are doing everything in their power to effectively destroy it before it comes out.

It somewhat worked with other games, they are going to do the same thing with psnow.

The negative press sony recieves these days is unreal.

[Kiwi66]

So when xbox exclusives get negative articles they must be from Sony fanboys plus i'll think you'll find that MS/xbox gets its fair share of negative press more so than sony and why shouldn't sony get negative articles if they did something to deserve it just like any company etc should or should we wrap sony or anything sony related in cotton wool because in the eyes of some they can do no wrong but at the end of the day its only one journalists opinion about this game and there will be people who simply don't like the game it happens all the time

[SliceOfTruth888]

I own all 3 current Gen consoles and have been nothing but disappointed with my ps4. I hated killzone, knack and second son. The only game I enjoyed so far has been resogun. So now that I built myself up as a Sony hater I can now say that the order looks amazing. And honestly I cant believe anyone fanboy or not can deny how great it looks.

[FrostedFire]

Well too bad for you.I enjoyed KillZone and Second Son never bothered with Knack tho.

[hduce]

@SliceOfTruth888 I don't think they are denying how great it looks I think people are questioning how it plays and how much content it has. I am looking forward to playing the game myself and then I'll judge it from there.

[GusBricker]

Are there more supernatural creatures or just werewolves?

[WESKER2015]

In a world where COD scores high with every game released while bringing absolutely no innovation with it i can understand why this game would scare the casuals Lol, The Order is one my standout titles, roll on 20th of February!

[Speak_da_Truth]

Let's wait and see shall we? Not long to go now.

[jhoward585]

I think I886 is a game worthy of playing from the beginning to end simply b/c the visual are so good that it would motivate players to play it all the way through.

The downfall is, after they've seen everything 1886 has to offer I think most gamers would get bored of it really quick.

I hope R@D can prove me wrong because I really do like some thing about 1886 so far.

[Madrigal]

Solid tech demo. Uncharted will still likely be the main reason for me to get a PS4. Could be wrong, though.

[mhunterjr]

All signs point to it being a tight, linear, "roller coaster" type of game. That doesn't mean it won't be full of quality, but it does mean that showing too much before release would spoil the experience. My hope is that they are holding back, so that people can be surprised on day one. If that's the case, then perhaps the demos weren't poorly chosen, they just didn't have much of a choice.

That said, replay-ability looks like it will be an issue. The lack of any type of multiplayer, and the linear nature of the campaign would make me think twice about paying full price for this game.

[PsBoxGamer]

I getting tiered of these dumb articles as if there going to stop me from buying it day 1 smh. MAYBE these are the type of games I LIKE!

[NickAwesome]

I've never seen so much negativity surrounding a game before release, how about we wait until we actually play the entire game? some of the best games of all time are "linear" experiences, a new ip should at least have the benefit of the doubt

[Jaqen_Hghar]

The Xbox fanboys are working extra hard this gen because they're losing sales and losing in critical acclaim and amount of exclusives (as listwar.com shows) so they have to go around trashing every PS exclusive and software piece of news as terrible and exaggerate any bad news in order to try to downplay PS's dominance this gen. Just ignore them this game looks amazing and is getting a lot of preorders from excited fans like a man.

[Jumper09]

Or maybe this fanboys can see beyond the shiny graphics and QTE Cinematic experience...

Generic and boring exclusives is Sonys trademark it seem this generation

[ashen122]

Can you really blame them though? I mean no new exclusives for what 7 months!! Damn they have/will have nothing better to do then troll

[kenshiro100]

Considering you probably dont have a ps4, of course you'd say that Jumper.

[ShottyGibs]

It could have a billion pre orders. Doesn't mean it's going to be good. Watchdogs is a great example.

Healthy skepticism doesn't mean someone is an Xbox fanboy you do realise?

So far we have a game with a pretty theatrical presentation with linear paths and mundane gameplay if you care to believe people who've played previews.

Hopefully it's the second coming that many Sony fans are claiming. Lets see. Its not getting my preorder money yet.. in fact no game will until I'm certain it's a knockout.

[Tibbers]

The same could be said about the constant hyping.

[Master-H]

The fud campaign continues.

[polow got sol]

Man too bad you guys weren't defending ryse like this when it released. Saying it's people's opinions and blah blah

[waltyftm]

Form the very little game play footage i have seen, i expect it to be bloody marvellous, the combat looks good, the graphics are stunning and setting is quality, never understood all the hate for it to be honest.

[traumadisaster]

I think gamers are becoming a little guarded after many flops on next gen. It's OK to be critical and give ones opinion of its current state. He also said it may be great.

[Majin-vegeta]

Funny thing RAD did the same thing with GOW on PSP.And look how that turned out.Some of the best games to grace the PSP.

[assdan]

It's a victim of unfounded criticism for being "linear" a thing that I've never seen a game be so heavily criticized for.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

How about a victim of strange expectations. For some reason people were expecting an open world game or something and suddenly hate all linear 3rd person shooters lol

[NovusTerminus]

I know... Linear, single player, story driven design totally destroyed the original Uncharted...

Obvious Sarcasm btw...

I for one can't wait for this game!

[sin7279]

Another stupid troll article Fact!

[Saito]

That's the problem with the world. They downplay and guess something will be bad until it happens. Always estimating and never experiencing. Pitiful race. Never assume.

[Brisco]

Gonna hold off with buying until price drops. Not worth $60.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

It's more of a victim of being bashed by people who'll trash it without having a PS4 to play it. All the hate I see for this game anymore, comes from people who'll never physically play it! So their opinions are void to me

[Blues Cowboy]

Gamers were up in arms for writers/critics to be up-front, honest and call it how they see it rather than drumming up pre-order hype. Now that's happening, people are annoyed that writers are being too harsh. There has to be a double standard here, surely?

[corroios]

Its simple. Its an sony exclusive and thats enough... it must be perfect and game changing... the others can pump more of the same, with avarege controls, no story...

[FrostedFire]

Seriously I don't get the 'too linear' argument?I mean what is wrong with you guys?Should all the games be Open world to be enjoyable?I hate open world games except for GTA but you don't see me writing articles about it why?Because I can see the appeal in open world Gamez it might not appeal to me but it might appeal to someone else and that's fine.What I don't get is why is this game getting so much hate for not being open world?Last of us was linear and that turned out to be a great game,uncharted was linear and it is a critically acclaimed franchise. Look if linear games isn't your cup of tea then don't buy it no ones forcing you too but please for the love of god and everything that is holy don't hate on a game for what it is,that's like me saying I like platformers but NFS only has racing its freak in stupid and omg I can't believe I'm going there but its like calling out a person for being gay.

[FrostedFire]

I wrote that from a very cheap phone that kept freezing on me and half my screen is bornen so sorry for any grammer or spelling mistakes .

[bigodon]

i cannot respect people who said this linear BS
i just want they find something else to trash the game, because this is so dumb and stupidy

many games those people play ARE linear and they just gave a F about, this is because the hate on to1886 cannot sthap :)

[urwifeminder]

Wow this should be a laugh looking forward to the reviews ha ha ha.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

We will all know soon enough.

[NeutralXP]

Played this garbage letdown is a understatement 720p 16fps enjoy it Sony fans lol

[Majin-vegeta]

Sure you did....

[Knushwood Butt]

Gaming journalism is so boring these days.

It's a chore to even read the soundbites.

Time to go do something else.

[S2Killinit]

Umm I don't think its either. The main reason is that we are getting articles like these trying to deflate the excitement for PS4 exclusives. And its not just this one, its been going on. Maybe we should be asking the author whats going on? Even if this particular author is not himself within the loop, there is definitely something going on. I don't recall other games being "scrutinized" and "analyzed" so "critically" by game journalists before the game is even released, in the past. I mean, did we have these questions about "substance" and "linearity" about Gears? I don't recall.

[Killzoner99]

Another clickbait article about The Order. I don't know who's more scared of this game , the competition fanboys or the journalist? Typical of them to try to kill the hype before it releases but the sad thing is they will fail miserably. One look at a screenshot from The Order will tell you that.

[Silly gameAr]

A new IP that looks promising and exciting gets more heat from these people then game franchises that's stagnant and been there done that. What's even more crazy is that the Order is getting crapped on for doing what most games have been doing for years.

It's a bleak time for gamers.

[Dyldog69]

All the hate makes me want the game and to support it more now. Its sad that so many xbots hate on it because its not in their shitstem (typo) system.

[bigodon]

this will be the same as drive club
the funniest thing in the world is seeing a xbox fanboy play DC after trash and shitty the game to hell :D

[jackwei22]

Waiting for the Youtube reviews from the real players then decide whether I am getting it or not as a lot gaming journalists these days are giving the industry a bad name with some shocking reviews of late.

Just pray that this year that exclusives coming to the major consoles are released finished and bug free.

[StormLegend]

OMG everyone is hating on this game... Why not wait for reviews!!!!

[DarXyde]

Because waiting would make too much sense.

:O)

PS, there might be a smiley face above, but I'm crying inside because gamers these days are an insufferable bunch at times.

[Holeran]

To me so far it looks like it could be one hell of a good first outing for a new IP. And visually speaking this game is already setting benchmark standards for new consoles. Not saying that the visuals are going to make the game more fun but could definitely make it more immersive.

[beereal360]

All ps4 exclusives have been let downs. I think uncharted will be great. I'm most looking forward to Mass Effect and Crackdown

[masterfox]

I'm worried about this game, still the lack of TPS right now sucks and being a fan of Gears of War 1 and I mean 1!, 2,3 and judgment were CR@#ap imo. The order 1886 is pretty much welcome in my book and totally can't wait to get this!

[WizzroSupreme]

As I recall, people complained about Wolfenstein's E3 demos for quite a while until it finally released. Maybe The Order:1886 is in the same boat.

[AstroCyborg]

if a game gets this much hate from the media it will only be good look at destiny & titanfall hyped to hell by the media & didn't live up to it but alien got bashed but was amazing

[RealtorMDandDC]

Well Said....lol You nailed it...I Hate Destiny way over HYYYYYPED, have not played Titanfall but there's no fiber in my body has interest in it.

[DarXyde]

When journalists and gamers with no clout criticize The Order:1886, there's always an entourage of defenders.

When journalists and optimists look at the positive side, they're met by critics who say a lot of bad things about a game they have limited (IF ANY) experience with.

I suspect this game will have mixed reactions, but I hope it's great so haters can eat crow.

Either way, play the finished product before jumping on the hype/hate bandwagon. We'll see what it is when it's ready. Not long from now, so I think we can hold off on the madness. Even when it's released, someone will hate it and someone will love it.

Curb your expectations and don't presume it will be bad. Just wait.It's not far off at all.

[blakstarz]

Wow...people are really trying so hard and hoping this game fails...CRAZY!

[ironmonkey]

When every game for xbox sucks it makes these kids happy to come here and try to shit talk games that are actually good. Thats funny here i thought horizen would of sold more than driveclub lol sorry other way around. Anyways the order is gonna be a treat for the die hard fans and cannot wait! For pt/silenthill where these so called fake tards will never ever get to play. The Best games are only on ps4!.

[ScaryMonkey]

Oh look another doom and gloom article about The Order, I have never seen a game get so much negative press, this game appears to be feared by xbox fanboys the world over like Brendan Griffiths here who cant stand the fact this is a PS4 exclusive, they even go to the extreme of making slanderous and outright propaganda articles like this one to try and turn people away from a game that isn't even out yet. Got news for you Brendan no matter how much it upsets you and the rest of your fanboy buddies I'm going to get this game and thoroughly enjoy it.

[bigodon]

lets see

we can have several stuff to see when playing OR they could just act like ubisoft and capcom. How? who here remember re5 when they had spoiled us about jill and released about 70% of game content into micro trailers across marketing, websites, etc... BEFORE game even gets released.

or maybe they should be like ubisoft? recently they spoil us the helix thing when you travel to other eras and "go to future" with arno climbing the eiffel tower?

rockstar games also keep alot of gta stuff away from us, last gen we only see the game running when copies was leaked and people start to make videos and gifs... so we start to concern about gta6 beeing shitty game? just because they decided to not show everything?

i stay with shinobi hints about this game and have nothing to worrie about, i'm confident TO1886 will be a great game and will entertain me alot :)

[dunkyson]

I'm really starting to get fed up with negative previews games are torn to bits before they've had a chance.

[Alsybub]

I'm genuinely concerned about this game now. Originally I was thinking it could go either way, due to the number of positive and negative articles being a pretty even split, but today I read a preview in Edge and they were quite scathing at times.

They were talking about poor AI, poorly timed animations, over use of QTEs and things generally being broken. They were also saying that some of the particle effects, while being beautiful, managed to hamper the gameplay by obscuring your view of the enemies.

They did say that all of the issues they had with it could be rectified by release but they couldn't see how that would be possible in the time frame available.

Edge is the least biased gaming magazine I know. When Edge is negative about a game at preview then I get concerned.

Still, until it's out we don't know, but seeing that does say something to me.

[RealtorMDandDC]

I'm impressed by the hate this game is getting and it's blowing my mind. With that said, Day one purchase for me.

Gear of Wars is totally fine with it's cover mechanics and linear game play but a game that actually tries to be a little different gets lambasted.

There's something very disingenuous about video game journalism these days. Advertisers has a subtle sub-conscious affect on the out come of reviews. And then we have articles that follows a silly trend of bashing for hits to ignite flames.

[e-p-ayeaH]

Better wait for reviews even tough i have the impression this game will fall short, im still not sure how the gameplay will exacly be.

[Dirkster_Dude]

I have no problem with radios in an alternate London timeline. The radio as we understand it today was invented/demonstrated by Marconi in Italy in 1895. However, the body of work that lead to it spans 30-40 years before that. It is very possible for people to have radios in the game. My real issue is the guns and the gun physics which seem anemic. No one seems to talk about this aspect of the game or even acknowledging it could be a problem. Makes me take a wait and see approach to the game.

[Flotche]

We are adult now! Before buy a game Read the professionnal review, read the feedback by some "real" gamer who already play it and make your decision! I've used this way to pick up DriveClub and I'm not disappoint!....And I will take The Order Day 1.

[dadavis1992]

I enjoy movies. I enjoy games. I will have no problem enjoying an experience that is somewhere in between. Jesus people.

[Gwiz]

What's this?,questioning the quality of a game?.lol
After broken release 2014?.... man are they really that dense?_
XD

[Master of Unlocking]

Isn't The Order: 1886 made by the very same people who made God of War III? And some of those journos would have us believe that it's not going to be anything special at all???

[bleedsoe9mm]

my opinion this game is going to be decided on how good the story is , if its interesting people will put up with and dismiss mediocre combat to get to it . if its not its just another 3rd person shooter with nothing to make you want to advance thru the game .

[windblowsagain]

I've never bought a game based on footage of someone else playing.

Your not experiencing the feeling!

I bought Uncharted Drakes fortune after I played the demo and many games the same way.