Why No Man’s Sky, The Order 1886, and Tom Clancy’s The Division may not be as good as people hope.
I hope they do live up to the hype, we don't need another year like 2014
RAD's The Order 1886 has little hype btw. Alot of site previews slammed it but i believe it will be one of 2015 best games and will surprise all the haters out there. They should have played their PSP. They were extremely good and were very close to their Ps2 counterpart. I wish them the best of luck. The Division on the other hand will have a hard time considering Ubisoft misfortunes in 2014 and the talks that the graphics had already been downgraded and god knows what kind of microtransactions they will put in it. And the whole online only aspect should have not been there. They should have added an offline campaign for people who want to play it solo. I really hope it's a good game for Ubisoft's sake and for the people who will buy it.
Totally agree w/ both of your points. I'm not sure the Order will review well regardless of how great it is because too many "journalists" have already shot it completely down, & the more close minded users will go into the game w/ their opinions coloured quite a bit. It will definitely be a cult classic though, I'd say even if the previews are true the game still has a market of fans looking for exactly the kind of game RAD are making, the kind of game that is becoming more & more rare in the industry, a true narrative driven game w/ fluid gameplay mechanics & a lot of attention to detail & focus on crafting interesting environments & situations. When everything else is now an open world, online rpg, The Order should have a pretty wide audience of fans salivating for the kind of experience it could offer, myself included. Speaking of open world online rpg's, there is little doubt in my mind that The Division won't live up to its lofty promises. The difference between the two games is focus, The Order has a very clear focus on what it aims to be, while The Division is still pretty wide open & dependent upon user interaction. If The Division releases in 2015 it will most likely be broken when you look at the history of Ubisoft's online components. Hopefully more spectacular failures in this arena can bring some more attention back to a good solid offline campaign and force devs to truly make sure these mmorpg's will actually work upon release, regardless of how much dev time that may take.
Ya where is this, the order hype? All ive seen is articles writing it off. I disagree with you about the division single player mode though. They have designed a coop/multiplayer game. If someone is interested in that type of game then good, if not then thats fine. They shouldn't have to go create a separate campaign with different npcs because some are against playing the game they designed. Also im pretty sure you will be able to play a lot of it by yourself if you wish, like a destiny sort of thing.
@jb227 Haven't played ACU coop but i did play some of Farcry 4 coop and multi, as well as Watch Dogs multi. And it's safe to say online stuffs are not the things Ubi is worst at.
http://n4g.com/news/1652904... http://n4g.com/news/1651332... http://n4g.com/news/1643156... http://n4g.com/news/1540719... http://n4g.com/news/1588997... http://n4g.com/news/1638669... http://n4g.com/news/1570000... So much hype!!! /sarcasm
Games usually receive hyper because people have seen enough to interest them. Whether the games turn out to be great or not shouldn't diminish anybody's excitement for them. If you can't get excited about these things anymore, maybe you should consider moving on from gaming as a hobby, as anticipation is a large part of the industry. Nobody likes a Debbie Downer.
The bigger the hype surrounding a game, the harder it is to live up to it. In my opinion, it seems like The Order 1886 is being singled out unfairly for a lot of criticism by some of the gaming media and gamers. Shouldn't we wait until the game is released before we judge it?
I think it will get unfairly judged and will still be a great game, and the people that actually buy it and play it will absolutely love it. I know I'm getting it
Yeah. I've pre-ordered it. I hope it leads to a successful franchise.
Yea the Order got some huge hype a year ago but then many bashed the demos and it tottally untrue to say this game is overhyped. A lot of other games have been hyped like hell starting with Quantum Break and yes Uncharted 4 and Hallo
While I agree with UC4 and H5, I have to totally disagree with Quantum Break being hyped. Apart from the reveal and a now extended gameplay demo, it hardly gets a mention. Most media outlets are even leaving it off their list of top 2015 games coming out.
Quantum Break hardly receives any fanfare whatsoever. It's a top three most anticipated game for me, and I rarely get to read any articles about it.
Yea seing the disagrees and comments I admit there s not much said about QB for a while and the hype kinda fell. Maybe its just because there s no news about it and its a while off but at E3 and later Gamescom the hype was real. We ll see when there are news but it was just an example I chose because I think the game has similarities with the Order I admit I chose poorly considering there hasn't been news about it for a while
The order will fail to impress critics with its QTE extravaganza but the Sony fanatics will hold it up as a masterpiece exactly like driveclub and the division will be a success because it's going to be something different with the whole squad community thing going on.
Unlike xbox fans, who honestly don’t support most of their games, sony fans do. You guys bitch about having the best reviewed games on xbox 1, yet you refuse to support the developers. Forza Horizon 2, this game sold on xbox 1 and 360, and couldn’t even make it to 900k, sunset overdrive reviewed well, yet it currently setting below 800k, even the flagship game Halo MCC, is sitting at or below 2M. Sony fans love diversity and support their games, even if they are bad, we support them. So that developers can improve on the next game. So YES, we will come to the defiance of The Order.
I think the Order won't impress. So far its a heavily scripted single player linear 3rd person shooter.. a 8 hour playthrough and its time to move on. I think Ubisoft might finally get things right with the division although we're getting a massive visual down grade. No Mans Sky is anyone's guess right now. I like what I've seen.. but I haven't seen enough to know.
I'm really interested in the concept of No Man's Sky but I am starting to wonder exactly what is the fun factor of it all. I wish we could see a little more of the space dog fights we keep seeing in snippets. Will there be fighting on planets, like a FPS? Who are we even fighting against? Will we be fighting against online opponents? Are there different factions or clans? So far a lot has been only focused on the whole exploring, which is great...but what else can you do? The only hype The Order seems to have is how great it looks. Other than that it seems like an ordinary 3rd person shooter with a multiplayer.
You mine resources, buy better ships, explore, have dog fights with AI every once in awhile, and try to make your way to the center of the universe, which is a black hole. If you're expecting anything more than that, don't pay any attention to the game from here on out. You will be sorely disappointed. I'm definitely excited for it though. I love exploring! If you're looking for more details, however, these guys have covered it pretty extensively. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
So basically everything I already know is what to be expected in the game... I don't know about that then. Exploring is great and all but there needs to be a better reason for doing all this. If that is it, then I feel this game has wasted on some huge gameplay potential. Thank for the link. Edit: "Other than that it seems like an ordinary 3rd person shooter with a multiplayer" I meant to say "without a multiplayer"
No mans sky doesn't need anymore than that. It's not trying to be the next mass effect or star citizen. It's a small indie game. It's like saying what else is there to do in Games like minecraft
There's a lot to do in Minecraft though, from getting together with four friends, exploring, crafting, to building massive cities, not to mention all the add-ons and mods (currently there is a GTAV mod,) so yes there is a lot to do in Minecraft. I would like to have more if indeed that is all this game is offering. Being a small indie game doesn't mean that they couldn't add anything that I mentioned. Being a small indie dev doesn't mean a more robust experience should not be included in their games. I haven't asked for anything out of this game that isn't unrealistic or couldn't be done by them.
Lol but that stuff you tried to make seem like more is still just build stuff. You can act like minecraft is more than that but it isn't. Thats the point, that you can have fun with just a simple game. It doesn't need to be like the big produced games. In no mans sky you can travel to thousands of planets, collect resources, upgrade your ship, connect with players online, and work towards your end goal of making it to the center of the galaxy. The game can be like minecraft, dont starve, dayz where it doesn't need huge gun fights, branching storylines, 1000 npcs, lol getting married, and the ability to play dress up to be a fun, awesome game. Its what you do with it that makes it fun, like minecraft.
I am not acting like Minecraft is any more than anything. I am telling you from first hand experience that IT IS more than just building. because the devs have given you the ability to do almost anything you can think of. Will No Man's Sky give us the same freedom? "In no mans sky you can travel to thousands of planets, collect resources, upgrade your ship, connect with players online, and work towards your end goal of making it to the center of the galaxy." In the interview one of the designers said in your entire playthrough you may NEVER see another player, I don't even think they are marked as players. Travel to thousands of planets and do what? Upgrade my ship and move on? Then WHAT!? You don't see the concern? This game doesn't need guns or getting married but it needs a point, Minecraft has a point. In No Man's Sky can I build colony's, can i build galaxy class ships? Will I run into indigenous alien life forms? Will I run into hostile Aliens? Are there any mysteries to the universe to unlock? Are these not valid questions? Or hopes for a game as big and ambitious as No Man's Sky?
"So basically everything I already know is what to be expected in the game" No. The devs have said repeatedly they aren't revealing everything yet. "I meant to say 'without a multiplayer' " Why? It has multiplayer.
As far as I understand. It was recent when The Order got good recognition. BeforePSX people were hating on it all day.
People were hating on it because they didnt show anything nor overhyping it to the skies like Destiny nor Watch Dogs, look how those turned out to be. I am still glad they showed minimal things about the game. I know it will be epic.
I don't think it will be too hard for The Order to live up to its hype.
I would argue that The Order 1886 has zero hype behind it. The early word on it was so poor that it wasn't on anyone's radar. It's only been very recently where people have changed their minds to, "hmm, it could be ok." No Man's Sky has ridiculous hype and after the poor year Ubisoft has had, I would think that expectations are going to be very tempered with regards to The Division. I know it's not developed by Ubisoft.
The Order seems like it's going to be PS4's Ryse. Combat is way too scripted for my tastes. Some demos have looked more akin to heavy rain.
A TPS has zero similarity with Ryse.
Agree - The Order will have great graphics (for 800p), but will be boring as hell. It will replace Ryse's repetitive combat combo's with QTE's and endless cut sceens. And it will be even less open world. No Man's Sky is going to be a carebear version of Elite Dangerous done on a budget that is literally 20x smaller. But the key to disappointment is hype. The Order and NMS have already been crowned co-GOTY by N4G. They need to score in the mid-90s on Meta to live up to the hype. If NMS was being looked at as a small indie title and sold for $9.99 it wouldn't disappoint - like Starbound, or Shovel Knight, or FTL etc... I have no idea how to save The Order - nothing can make QTEs and cutscenes broken up by a couple of on rails, cover shooting segments fun.
I seriously dont see where youre getting that the order has been crowned co goty
Simmer down fanboy. Bloodborne is where the real hype is at , and to a lesser degree .... Uncharted 4 that is coming later in the year! Playstation fans are expecting GOTY or near GOTY quality from those. The Order 1886 has middling hype and it's not expected to score well (low 70's probably).Some people just don;t want to play games like this anymore. They need to be open world , have a certain gimmick , or multiplayer , or whatever. But people want to play through it anyway because they don't mind playing those types of games and it does look cool with the alternate history , setting , werewolves/the order , graphics , weaponry , etc.. They don't need endorsements form Xboners , Nintendo kids , Giantbomb , Gamespot , or any other website. No Man's Sky has some hype , but most of it manufactured by the media (a la Titanfall).We know where the real hype is ^
"And it will be even less open world." Linear games…. God forgive us for we have sinned. ------------- "No Man's Sky is going to be a carebear version of Elite Dangerous done on a budget that is literally 20x smaller." 1) You don't know the budget of both games. 2) Elite Dangerous doesn't even allow you to land on a planet. Fun. ------------- "The Order and NMS have already been crowned co-GOTY by N4G." No they haven't. Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 are both more hyped than The Order and NMS combined. You are just on a baseless hate campaign that will help people enjoy the games no less. You will simply never play them. ------------- "If NMS was being looked at as a small indie title and sold for $9.99 it wouldn't disappoint" Except it's not a small indie title. It's bigger than most AAA games. You said it was "too large" the other day. I love how you're going about telling people to "not hype it", but you go a step further and make up things to actually hate on it. ------------- "I have no idea how to save The Order" YOU don't need to save it. Gamers and critics have already shared their enthusiasm and overwhelming positive impressions. You are just being stupid enough to ignore them. http://n4g.com/news/1647613... I have no idea how to save Heavy Rain.… Metacritic: 87/100… Bafta awards. I have no idea how to save The Walking Dead.… Metacritic: 90/100…. Game of the Year awards. I have no idea how to save every amazing, award-winning, point-and-click adventure game ever conceived. DougLulz. You are hilarious man - no facts or validity to ever support your ridiculous arguments let alone your bias, but you keep on trucking. There's no escaping the fact that at the age of 40, if you are a dudebro, you need serious help.
I just hope there fun!
Had no intention of getting any of these so no loss for me.
The hype is an illusion. It usually always is. These games might be fantastic, but imo... they will be good games that aren't going to really spark something huge, something like what mass effect 1 was. The order looks visually epic, and the theme very interesting. Its gameplay however looks entirely average... not poor, but nothing seriously fresh that's stand out from the crowd. Expect good games, just don't believe the hype until you can judge! But having said that, of the 3... the order has really good potential to be special imo.
The Division is the only one of these I care about, confused why The Order is being hyped up so much anyway.
I wonder whether The Order 1886 will feel a bit more like a Quantic Dream game. If so, as long as it doesn't play itself like Beyond Two Souls, I'm happy with that.
The order andno mans sky
The Order had lots of hype in the beginning, but as more of the gameplay was revealed, the hype died and skepticism replaced it. I love the theme and setting of The Order, but the gameplay so far has not excited me.
I don't see much hype for The Order, mostly haters and dejection. I really like the setting, but not a big shooter fan. But it may be good fun, I did enjoy Wolfenstein this past year .
I am hoping the Division really does live up to its billing. The Order 1886 would just be a good bonus. However that is not my most anticipated game now that I have learned of other coming exclusives from Sony. If the Order wasnt so great it doesnt even matter they have so many things coming anyways to choose from if it fails.
Order 1886 has seen nothing but FUD from "journalists" in the last few months. You can hardly call it "overhyped"
Yeah really. Its not the fanbase hyping it up and surely not the articles about it either. I dont think it will be a disappointment at all. In fact it will be a bonus if it turns out good. They are setting it up to actually surprise everyone. Everyone would just be pleased at this point if it turns out to be a decent game. Sorta like Drive Club pleasantly surprised after the updates.
i don't agree with that list but to be honest, no ones opinion has ever made me not want something because they don't see value in it. ive got a really good feeling about the order 1866 and the division and i'll have both games on day one.
I think 1866 is going to be a damn good game. The other two, I would wait.
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