I think Bioware already stated it wasnt an exclusive. And wasnt Mass Effect 1 a 360 exclusive but ended up on PS3 couple years later? Even though MS logo was on the screen when you started the game on the 360.
Dev said it was rumour did he not? So what Microsoft buy exclusives so does Sony. Sony had lot of betas before the x box 1 last year just get over it the way of gaming nowadays. They are businesses looking for people to buy their consoles.
Yup, Bioware is stupid they chose Xbone for exclusivity. I mean, exclusive game for 9.5~10 mil. sold trough ( and outside US/UK DEAD CONSOLE ) and throw away 18.5+ mil. PS4's. Great business solution.
i totally agree with what you are saying Knws. MS will keep investing in first and third parties this gen just like sony and nintendo are curently doing. Phil even stated there would be more announceents in the future. the sales difference between both consoles wont be an issue as long as MS makes the deal worthwhile and both parties get what they want. sony made similar deals during the ps1,ps2 , ps3 era and even again with the ps4, nintendo did same with gamecube,n64 and even the wiiu. as you said its all about business.
Very very doubtful. With every month the gap is getting bigger. Meaning with every month it costs more and more to get the exclusive deals from companies like EA. Sure MS has lots of money but it's a publicly traded company and just like EA the shareholders demand profits. Not releasing on the most popular console cuts out huge portions of profit. Square could do that because Uncharted 4 comes out at around the same time so they won't take much of a hit in profits by releasing later so MS probably overpaid for that.
I know people like to say Titanfall was a huge success altough it didn't come out on PS4, but if EA doesn't make a statement of how great it sold and throw around numbers of sales and profits it underperformed for their expectations. EA made the deal because MS promised them DRM and no second hand game sales and EA expected the X1 too beat the PS4. Neither of that happened so that relationship won't be as good anymore.
As for Mass Effect if we would assume it sells 7 million copies on PS4 that would mean MS would need to pay at at least around 200 million just to make up for lost profit. Obviously EA would demand more than just the minimum and try to squeeze out as much as possible since MS is somewhat desperate to catch up in sales. Would over 200 million be really worth it? Doubtful that it would boost X1 sales enough that it would be worth it so the shareholders would have a problem with that. If you don't keep shareholders happy the CEO will be kicked out by them. I think the MS CEO wants to keep his job.
Keep in.mind that ME4 won't release this year so by the time it comes out the PS4 sales could be above 40-50 million meaning the potential amount of sold copies would increase and so would the cost for MS to get the game as exclusive.
When 2 out of 3 ME games got simultaneously released on both PS and Xbox how one game releasing first on one make it home to that console especially when it was released on PC too? Plus even the 1st one got released on PS later on.
Mass Effect has zero attachment to xbox, however many self-entitled xbox fanboys like to see it.
Same goes for Tomb raider and SF5 which have been on both consoles for a long long time (even if one started on either console 100 years ago)but one is secured to XB1 and the other on PS, in my book that's fair.
Now if games of the magnitude of GTA or COD or FIFA turned exclusive to either console then yes the outrage would be totally justified.
it was on ms first because they helped fund it. also this was already confirmed to not be console exclusive. i dont know why everyone is having this coversation
I would expect "timed" exclusive like the first few Mass Effects. Mass Effect 1 eventually came to PS3 (5 years after 360). Mass Effect 2 had a 1 year delay on PS3/PC vs 360. But it totally makes sense. All 3 games sold 3 million copies each on 360. Mass Effect 2 and 3 sold around 1.5 million copies in PS3. I don't trust PC numbers anymore due to digital, but Mass Effect sold 1 million hard copies on PC, while 2 and 3 sold much less.
It would cost a lot of money for a as to secure these aaaaaand exclusives because of that install base dif. They basically have to provide EA with proper compensation for opting to not sell their game to the possible 19-20 million PS4 users. Would prob end up being the most anyone has ever paid for console exclusivity.
Why are ppl talking about Titanfall? Realistically MS released no info on the sales of that game.
Titanfall sales were mediocre though. For all of the hype and money involved in the exclusivity, to be then outsold by Infamous Second Son too, mediocre is spot on. I know you love your Xbox man, but come on, just because you wanted big sales doesn't mean it happened.
The fact EA actually regretted that exclusivity deal means they would have made much more money going multiplatform. They won't make this mistake again, the PS4 is gonna lead for the entire generation, most third party won't go with Microsoft only again.
I'm not sure where any of you get your news from. Its been stated many, many times....
ME1 was NEVER a timed game. MS owned the publishing rights, didn't own the team, didn't own the ip.
EA bought the IP and Team, later on they bought the publishing rights from MS. (That is by the way the ONLY thing they actually bought from MS)
EA later publishes ME1 on PC.
Why not port it on PS3?
Many, many reasons. Small install base at the time, they just spent close to a billion dollars on 2 teams and a hand full of ips.
Bioware was working on many systems and games (ME2, PC, 360, PS3 for the first time, along with KOTOR MMO)
The game came to PS3 later on when EA had the time and money to actually do a port.
So..this idea that something was "timed" doesn't make much sense and no evidence supports such an idea. In fact, if Bioware was ever going to make Mass Effect on another system after the fact, they clearly would not have sold the ip to EA to make more money on more systems if they felt they could do it on their own (ie selfpublish)
Titanfall was an abnormality since EA expected MS to enforce their DRM online check ins and expected them to do better than Sony. I'm sure they regretted that shortly after the launch unless MS payed them really a lot, a lot, a lot to make up for tons of lost sales.
It failed because even ea was dissapointed in sales. It failed because comparedto the hype the game received it undersold the expectations it was receiving. The last of us on the ps4, a remaster, sold more copies than titanfall on xbox one.
Assassingamer136 I don't see how the last of us sales are relevant...9 of the 10 best selling PS4 games are multiplat, and Titanfall did better than what 8 of those games did on XBO.
Titanfall was advertised more than GTAV and overall sales were only 4 million. COD AW sold more on PS4 than the entire sales of Titanfall. Titanfall needed to at least sell 10 million to break even or be called a success.
Aloren If the publishers of the game are saying they are disappointed with the games sales then it means its failed. It means its production value and advertisment costs did not bring in as much sales as they initially thought it would do. Again if publishers were saying they are disappointed with its sales then it means it failed, undeniable fact no matter how you try to spin it. We also can support this FACT with their recent words of bringing the second installment to the ps4 meaning if they were happy as you thought they were, then they would keep this franchise an exclusive. The last of us sales are relevant because this is about the fact mass effect was rumored to be xbox exlusive, people are saying they wouldn't keep it exclusive because the install base for ps4 is two times larger, the sales for the last of us is evidence of people supporting the system and proving the install base is larger. Besides that the software sold for ps4 exclusives is 3 times larger than the software exclusives sold for the xbox one. Dont try to spin it any other way.
I'm not spinning anything. I'm not interested in comparing exclusives sales, that's why I tried to use multiplat as a comparison point, to see how TF did compared to the best selling multiplats.
And disapointment (assuming EA said they were disapointed) is not failure btw. Square expected more from Tomb Raider, and it wasn't a failure, was it ?
Love how the installation numbers get thrown around calming that it's all good but yet software numbers say otherwise. Their maybe 18.something console but not all are buying the games so in other word that number is nothing but hand job materials for the suits . Again software numbers say otherwise sadly
Software sells better on the PS4. That's all developers care about are the totals instead of the attach rate. BTW its has been confirmed that the attatch rate is higher on the PS4.
I really dont see what your point is to be honest.
I don't see this guys point either? It would appear he's trying to troll PS4 as not selling games to go with consoles, but we have seen the npd and other official sites say that they sell about double the amount of software XBone sells. Strange comment.
Either way, like I mentioned above it would probably be the most expensive exclusivity contract ever to keep EA from almost 20 million customers to sell to almost 10 million customers. Basically paying EA to keep a AAA game from 66% of the next gen install base.
Every major WRPG sold better on 360 for some reason, not just ME. But now with the PS4 having twice the install base of XBO, it's safe to assume PS4 games will outsell XBO versions comfortably...
Mass effect 4 could shift countless millions of units on ps4. Microsoft would have to pay big $ to have it as exclusive... its been multi plat for that very reason. Mass effect 1 was a new IP, a gamble that turned into something special....
Yeah a gamble that turned into THE MOST fresh and special game series last gen. I don't see this going exclusive, but I do wish MS would take a few more gambles like Mass Effect 1 and Titanfall. Ones that are cemented with ambition and try things we've never really done before.
I have hopes that this E3 is gonna be awesome, fingers crossed.
When it is announced as an exclusive all the people on n4g going to say they was never a fan of the series..or the infamous I'll just buy it on my PC lmao
Sounds like the Street Fighter V situation to me. "I was always more of a Mortal Kombat, Tekken kinda guy". Oh yeah, that happened.
I think when it comes to games like Tomb Raider, PC and PS4 fans never claimed that they were never a fan of the series, just that they were pissed that MS paid to deny an audience who have bought Tomb Raider games for the 10 entries in the series, since the first. Then they said that "hey at least Uncharted will be better", after all that was the main reason MS moneyhatted TR. They were too short sighted to spend their money on forming their own studio that could create comparably amazing action-adventure games for them.
That was before we found out the exclusivity had a duration and that it would be coming to PC/PS4 likely around 6-12 months later in better form.
On-topic: I can't see this going exclusive. After the PS4 sales revelation, MS will have a harder time bargaining for third party exclusives.
Doesn't matter how many PS systems are out there. Microsoft would more than likely pay off the difference for a game like mass effect. Its ms they can afford to do this unlike sony
Their investors aren't going to keep pumping billions into securing third-party exclusives that would sell twice as much on PS4, and some more on PC, especially when the PS4 keeps outselling the Xbone globally every week without fail, even with price drops, bundles and holiday sales.
They could do it last gen because they had an early year-long lead, their platform was the lead development platform and the gaming media also favoured it in its promotion whether it was ad money or general bias.
The reason you're seeing games like Titanfall, Dead Rising 3 and Tomb Raider is because most people (probably even Sony themselves) were anticipating Xbone to be the premier console of this generation. Everyone expected Microsoft, with all their money and resources to be leading this gen and stomping Sony into the dirt - not to be losing by 8 million units by a console that has sold as much as the Xbone and Wii U combined. These deals were made before anyone knew what to really expect from the long term.
Now that Sony has confirmed that PS4 is leading the generation by close enough 8 million units, there's no way any major third-party publisher will give way and risk cutting out such a large consumer base, and potentially an entire fan base like Square Enix almost did with Tomb Raider.
...irrelevant. and not it actually wasn't. Before ME even launched...the deal with EA buying Bioware and its IPs was set and known.
In May 2008 they released it on PC (months after its 360 release)
soooooo it was exclusive for what...months? LMFAO!
By default it was on 360 for years as EA didn't port it due to many reasons, likely the install base and because they were already working on ME2 on 3 systems along with KOTOR and just spent more then half a billion on 2 teams.
That has nothing to do with this situation in the slightest.
ME has been and will continue to be a multiplatform series.
Hell...it was one BEFORE it even officially released on 360 when EA bought the rights to the series from BIOWARE (not MS as MS NEVER owned the IP to Mass Effect....)
Ms gonna show whose pockets really go deeper
To be fair, Xbox is Mass Effect's natural home. Probably a rumour but you never know. Congrats to Microsoft and Phil in particular if true.
I would expect "timed" exclusive like the first few Mass Effects. Mass Effect 1 eventually came to PS3 (5 years after 360). Mass Effect 2 had a 1 year delay on PS3/PC vs 360. But it totally makes sense. All 3 games sold 3 million copies each on 360. Mass Effect 2 and 3 sold around 1.5 million copies in PS3. I don't trust PC numbers anymore due to digital, but Mass Effect sold 1 million hard copies on PC, while 2 and 3 sold much less.