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Valve had a right to pull Hatred

Technology Tell writes, "I simply applaud Valve for recognizing that, as a sales market, they have the right to carry or not carry whatever they choose. Destructive Creations, the developers of Hatred, made a product, and Valve has exercised their free market option to not carry it. Good on Valve!"

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Nyxus3470d ago

The problem people have with it is that Valve does leave horrible, broken games to be sold on Steam, and they pull this despite the community wanting it. They are just afraid of bad publicity, and while they do have the right to pull the game from their store, you can ask yourself if it's good they decide what gamers can and can't play, especially with how inconsistent they are.

mhunterjr3470d ago (Edited 3470d ago )

They didn't decide what gamers can't play. If you want to play hatred, you can... Just not on steam. EVERY STORE has the right to decide what they want to sell...

IamTheStorm813470d ago

I always think it's a bad thing when a consumer has his/her choice taken away from them, and that's what Valve has done.

The community spoke, and they wanted the game. Valve removed it, all the while leaving some broken messes out there for consumers to buy.

If Valve is trying to look out for consumers, their efforts would be better spent pulling broken trash off of their store instead of a game that, while controversial, many obviously wanted to play.

Whatever your thoughts on the game might be, I would hope we could all stand up for our rights to buy what we want, no matter how distasteful the game might be (depending on your view of the game).

mhunterjr3470d ago

How was anyone's choice taken away? Just CHOOSE to buy Hatred from another outlet when it is released next year.

Should every store stock every item? If a store doesn't stock an item you want, do you bash them for limiting your choice? Or do you just buy it from another store?

Testfire3470d ago (Edited 3470d ago )

I gave up trying to reason with these people. They need to just outright say they want to play the game instead of attempting to hide behind the freedoms and hypocrisies and censorship arguments. Especially since all the arguments they try and make are so full of holes they carry no weight.

jambola3469d ago

@Testfire
You probably gave up trying to "reason" with them because you had so many holes poked in your arguments
This isn't a discussion about wanting to or not wanting to play a game, unless you think people include the words "btw i really want to play this game" in every post they write.
It's not "hiding behind" anything

DERKADER3470d ago (Edited 3470d ago )

Valve has the freedom not to sell Hatred, the same way Hatred has the freedom to exist as a game.

sovietsoldier3470d ago (Edited 3470d ago )

hatred did nothing new that other games have done before it postal, gta,man hunt,punisher,mortal combat, to name a few all have come before hatred.

in the end its just a mindless shootem up game with what looks to be little to no story.

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Steam Account Transfer Via Will on Death is Not Permitted, Valve Confirms

In case you were curious, a Steam account transfer via will is not permitted according to an official response from Valve.

anast19d ago

The games are theirs. People just pay to ride the ride.

Skuletor18d ago

Would be nice if the article's writer looked into and reported whether other digital game libraries could be transferred over via will (Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, EGS, EA app, GOG, Ubisoft Connect, Rockstar Launcher etc) instead of this half-baked piece but it's probably the same for all of them anyway

Kornholic18d ago

This seems like a way bigger issue than mandatory PSN account linking for PlayStation games.

So where is the outcry?

Skuletor18d ago

It's not like PlayStation is doing any different.

"You may not sell, buy, trade, or transfer your Online ID, Account or any personal access to PSN Services through any means or method, including by use of web sites."
https://www.playstation.com...

Kornholic17d ago

So you are that saying Steam is being very anti consumer with its policies. That's why I'm so baffled by the lack of outcry from the PC audience.

NotoriousWhiz18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

It's not like your account just stops working when you die. Include your email, account id, and password in the will (including the password to your email) and your survivors should have no problem using your games.

anast18d ago

PC gamers are a different lot. They don't mind renting their games forever, they don't mind spending money on overpriced equipment, and they don't mind fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game, but linking a PSN account demands a riot. This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

Skuletor18d ago

You sure talk a lot of nonsense.Go look up the percentage of digital sales compared to physical sales of PS5 games, then tell me again about "renting" games.

mandf18d ago

Overblown funny and 100percent true

anast18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

There is no option at all to buy a physical copy of a PC game... And more people game on consoles for the reasons that make PC gamers a different lot.

VIK212118d ago

it's not so much the linking but the fact that certain countries aren't allowed to access psn...

VIK212118d ago

@anast I have a disc ps5 since launch, initially I bought some disc games, but I can't be bothered to walk to a physical store nowadays... I just buy the titles when they go on special sale or gray market store like CDKeys...

DustMan18d ago

PSN was a different story altogether. It kept people who bought the game from playing in countries that PSN wasn't supported. I never understood the issue anyway.

I don't know if PC stuff is overpriced considering that you can buy a new video card with the same amount of money you'd spend over 5 or 6 years paying to play games online with a console. I'll never pay double to use the same connection. That is what I'll never understand about console gamers. "let me pay an extra hundred & twenty dollars a year to use the same internet I pay for monthly and use on literally every device in my home for free....except for my Playstation"

Extermin8or3_18d ago

@Skuletor about 50-60% of sales are digital for most games. Meaning 40-50% are physical....

anast18d ago

@VIK

You might not but you are not the expectation that creates a universal.

Skuletor18d ago

@Extermin8or3_
Right and where are you getting that information from?
https://www.statista.com/st...

@anast

"Renting games"
In the fourth fiscal quarter of 2023, approximately 77 percent of Sony Corporation's PlayStation gaming sales were generated via digital downloads.

"overpriced equipment"
Some people are willing to pay a premium for better performance, the way you keep talking about the PS5 Pro on N4G proves you're a hypocrite in that regard but whatever, lol

"fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game"
Most pc games will give the option to scan your system to choose recommended settings or start with moderate settings that will run the game fine but you're free to mess around at your own leisure, to improve performance or quality if you wish to. For those that don't want to, there's free software that can do that for you, such as Nvidia's Geforce or AMD's AMD Catalyst. Geforce Experience even gives you the option of choosing whether to prioritize performance vs image quality with a simple slider for easy optimization, it's not rocket science, like you try make it out to be.

"linking a PSN account demands a riot"
Playstation selling Helldivers 2 in regions without the legal means to create a PSN account by Sony's own standards, then telling people in those regions that already bought the game that they can no longer play the game, isn't a cause for concern? Though you've already heard about that but keep going along with your own narrative because of your weird vendetta against PC on here.

This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

PRIMORDUS18d ago

I don't rent I torrent to keep, if they take them down that's ok I don't care I have them LOL. I do buy PC games but very little as I want full control which is why I torrent to keep them in my collection, and I do not give a fuck what the devs or publishers want. I never did never will.

anast17d ago

@DustMan

Just like you can choose play games on low to barely mid settings for the price of a PS5, you can also choose not to game online on the PS5. So, now you are getting a better gaming experience and not paying extra for online.

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thorstein18d ago

So just give your progeny the passwords.

OtterX18d ago

Keep the password sealed in the Will, only to be opened after death. :)

Aphrodia18d ago

Right? How are they gonna know you are dead?

FinalFantasyFanatic18d ago

The only way they will know is when an account is active for 300 years, lol.

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Unannounced Valve 6v6 Shooter MOBA Footage Leaked

ESTNN writes: "A leak for Valve's 6v6 3rd-person shooter MOBA has supposedly been released ahead of time. And if the reports are true, fans of the genre have much to be excited for."

XiNatsuDragnel25d ago

Deadlock looks like bioshock and Moba had babies

JunonZanon24d ago

Valve really cannot count to 3.

Number1TailzFan24d ago

They should've had a new L4D like 10 years ago, it can be expanded upon a lot more but they just left it collecting dust.. it was a good game for its time but L4D2 doesn't have nearly enough content these days to keep players engaged, and it needs a serious graphics upgrade

mastershredder24d ago

Nice bend at the knee there Gabe. Seriously? A quirky character arena shooter? This late into the me-too-shooter market? I thought you guys were so much better than that crap. Gabe must need a bigger yacht.

kitano194723d ago

clown comment, valve are famous for letting their devs work on whatever they want as they have no share holders to please. hence why we rarely get games from valve but when we do they generally are great.

icefrog, the original modder who created dota on warcraft 3 is working on this with some other members at valve.

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Team Fortress: Source 2 and Portal 64 Fan Projects Shut Down by Valve Takedowns

Fan projects Team Fortress: Source 2 and Portal 64 have shut down after Valve intervened in their development.

-Foxtrot158d ago

First they open Steam up to more AI, now they are shutting down fan projects when at one time they used to support or even give the fans jobs.

Wonder what's going on with Valve at the minute.

rlow1157d ago

@Foxtrot
It’s called money plain and simple.

JEECE157d ago

I mean, that might explain the Team Fortress 2 thing, because Valve might bring that to Source 2 (though I'm not sure I'd bet on that), but I can't see how Portal 64 hurts them. If anything, it's more attention to the Portal and therefore Valve/Steam.

Giblet_Head157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

There's potential that Valve had already planned to bring Source 2 to TF2 officially after Counter Strike 2. It's been getting some renewed attention lately.

Inverno157d ago

You got Nintendo to thank for Portal64 being taken down. As for TF2, most likely it's due to the probability of Valve working on a source 2 port themselves. It's sucks but Nintendo are the biggest pricks in the business and not letting this drag out into a huge court drama is the best decision.