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Japanese researchers develop a 42GB super DVD

A research team from the Institute of Multidisciplinary Research for Advanced Materials of prestigious Tohoku University in Northern Japan announced [JP, PDF] it has found a way to multiply the amount of data that can be stored on a DVD or CD by a factor of 9.

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NO_PUDding6194d ago

But possible with current DVD/CD players?: no
Possible with Blu-Ray players?: no

It's like virtually making a new format.

pharmd6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

i do agree with what you are saying.... it is like investing money in outdated material

however, im just simply impressed with what they have done with this (albeit too late) but to see that the limitations we once percieved have been pushed much further is motivating, especially to see what we can do with what we have now!

znu6194d ago

so it's pretty much redundant

well atleast, if developing these DVD is at the same price as current ones (regular DVDS), then dvd's would be of the same price unlike blu ray which is more expensive (about $5-$10) but it might just die because nobody wants to invest in an outdated movie player

Then again, if these DVDs cost the same amount as blu ray to develop, then its pretty much useless

The Phantom Agree6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

As useless as

A new revolution in gaming... Dreamcast Reborn
Utilizing the same technology as last time, we plan to take out the competition head on using new CD technology

Interview with staff
Researcher: Well we took an existing technology, a cd, and made it better, it can now hold as much as 2 gb of data, unfortunatly development costs are high, but our new technology is perfect for Dreamcast Reborn

CEO: We plan to take on our competitors, first of all, we're going to take out the wii, by marketing with a kitten as a logo, then we will take out the xbox 360 by hitting it with some heavy shooters such as Failo 2d. We plan to take out the ps3 by marketing out new product as a Super Ultra Mega VCD player and give rpg's like Final Failure. With ideas like these, we can't fail.
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Don't know why I did that????
whatever, bubbles and agrees for everyone who posted above

EDIT
wow i can't give any of you bubbles, already given you guys recently, lol, oh well, i can still agree with you guys

ianp6226194d ago

Even if the media costs the same, the equipment to make and read these DVD's would be much more expensive.

NegativeCreep4276194d ago

This is basically a Blu-Ray disc with slightly less storage and it doesn't have the Blu-Ray name on it. For the expansion on CD, I see some merit in its conception, but for DVD its basically a slightly less inferior version of Blu-Ray. Is Microsoft behind this or what?

permutated6194d ago

Stop talking sh!t about the Dreamcast and maybe so many people wouldn't take bubbles away from you.

The Phantom Agree6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

Okay, didn't mean to offend anyone, didn't really know why I did it myself

Have a bubble :)

DARKKNIGHT6194d ago

"impressive for a dvd"-1st post

lol.
9x4.7=

4 x 50.0=?????

dvd is on its way out as far as movies, but it is still used in pc as storage. im guessing this will be some sort of new sata3 drive, which is not bad if you look at the storage capabilities.

boodybandit6194d ago

**1.2 - @ no pudding
i do agree with what you are saying.... it is like investing money in outdated material**

It works for Nintendo ;)

godofthunder106194d ago

i think that it's out dated before it's even released.br is dropping in price to start with.the new cds will probaly be higher then br when it's released ,if ever it is released.

the new cd still hold less then br and it's still not in hd.the truth is that the new cds will probaly never see daylight because who would buy them.first they can't be played in regular dvd or cd players.no one would buy the new dvd players just to play the new dvds when they could probaly buy a br player and br movies cheaper when it's released.

i'm not a big br fan and i don't even care about it but any one could see that br has a big advantage over the new dvds in every way.people would be crazy to invest in a new dvd player just to play the new dvds when they could buy a new br player.

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Bladestar6194d ago

It was never a secret that more research can be done with the existing DVDs to increase it's capacity instead of making an entire new format... but it's a lot easier for certain companies to create a new format and force everyone to spend money buying new hardware and pay more money fo the actual movies...

heyheyhey6194d ago

so what are you saying?

Sony shouldn't of included a Blu-Ray drive because they were supposed to know that some Japanese dudes would come up with a new DVD?

are you also aware that Blu-Ray is the reason there isn't any piracy with PS3 games? and it's the reason there won't be for many years to come?

are you aware that BD's are harder to scratch? i don't know about you, but i used to accidentally scratch PS1/PS2/CD ALL the time cos im a clumsy git, BD's.... no prob

BD is the next-gen of technology, don't like it? don't buy a PS3 or BD-player, no-one is forcing you to- stop complaining so much

damn whiners..

kazuma6194d ago

the no-scratches stuff on blu-rays is probably the BEST thing about them

Gorgon6194d ago

"but it's a lot easier for certain companies to create a new format and force everyone to spend money buying new hardware and pay more money fo the actual movies..."

Too bad you didn't read the part about these discs not beying compatible with current CD/DVD players, which means you would HAVE TO BUY NEW HARDWARE. Next time read the whole thing before making dumb comments out of fanboyism.

OgTheClever6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

Sorry to be a party pooper but blu ray discs in their original state are a lot easier to scratch than CD's and DVD's.

The reason that blu rays bought by consumers are so resilient is that there is an advanced hard polymer coating on the surface; I don't know if this is also applicable to other formats.

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To anyone that disagrees can they please present evidence that states otherwise.

The Lazy One6194d ago

Ur right. the people that disagreed with you are just idiots.

Lumbo6194d ago

The hardcoating is MANDATORY for BluRay, hence the value of your statement is in essence : zero, therefor people can disagree with you. BluRay disks in their ORIGINAL state come with the hardcoating. DVD's on the other hand come in their original state WITHOUT hardcoating.

Its the same pointless failed attempt at argumentation like telling people cars are subject to rusting without the finish, hence cars are bad. But the finish is PART of the system. Hence arguing that anything would be worse without it is pointless, as it is there.

OgTheClever6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

I'm actually a Blu Ray supporter.

I wasn't trying to say that the coating was bad thing, I was really ultimately questioning whether it is applicable to DVD's and other formats.

Maybe I should have added a bit more emphasis to my belief that Blu Ray is still the future in my original comment.

Kyur4ThePain6194d ago

This would require new hardware too, you idiot. It can't be used with existing DVD hardware.
You need to stop shooting your mouth off like that.

But I know...anything that even SEEMS remotely possible to be used against Sony in your little 2 celled brain sets off a chain of twitches that you just can't control. Kinda like a primitive form of life. Fitting, really.

Rageanitus6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

Please leave this site. Or put these sortuv childish comments in the open zone ======>

BTW no one is forcing anyone to buy the new tech... if that were teh case all the companies will be working together to get rid of DVD BLUNTLY

Plus hehe did you know digital distribution is a format in itself... I guess ms is forcing us to use it eh.

Rageanitus6194d ago

@OgTheClever LOL

The hard coating is mandatory on blu-ray discs, I never knew they shipped a final disc without a coating.

Its like saying a police cruiser is as a weak as a normal car.... But guess what they modify the cruiser to meet the standards.

The standard of a dvd is not the same as a blu-ray disc hence your point is pointless.

OgTheClever6194d ago

My comment wasn't perfectly written, I am only human by the way. :(

It was only quickly written and maybe it does make the coating sound like a bad thing.

I probably should have just explained why Blu Ray is so resilient and be done with that. I also never thought to mention that it's standard and I now realise that it's pretty much impossible to change the standards of current DVD's

The main point I was making was to question whether it is possible to use the polymers with other formats (that's why I said "original state" in my first sentence)

juuken6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

Are you serious?
And OG...are YOU serious?!

Statix6194d ago

OG raises a question that's fair. Wouldn't it be possible to apply the same hardcoat polymer to DVDs? Maybe it wouldn't be standard for all shipped DVDs, but some movie studios could get the ball rolling; like Warner Bros or Sony or Paramount could make it mandatory/standard that ALL their movie DVDs from this point forward come with this hard polymer protectant? Likewise, Microsoft could make it compulsory for all future XB360 game DVDs to use this hardcoat as well.

Not that I really care, because I have a PS3.

Testo6194d ago

Since DVD and blu-ray use different laser spectrums to read the data off of the disks. Perhaps standard DVD players can't get past the hard polymer to read the data.

I don't know really, just thinking out loud

The Lazy One6194d ago

Blu-Ray wasn't designed with the polymer taken into account. It was put in after the format was "finished" because they were easier to scratch than DVDs (or that the scratches affected them more, not sure).

DARKKNIGHT6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

Pladestar-(It was never a secret that more research can be done with the existing (windowsxp,xbox,zune,vista)VDs to increase it's capacity instead of making an entire new format... but it's a lot easier for certain companies to create a new (360elite,zune, vista, windows 7, hddvd) format and force everyone to spend money buying new hardware and pay more money fo the actual (everything ms/xbox HW/live related is a ripoff) movies)-Pladestar

pwnrship.

crank6193d ago

bladestar, please fall down a large flight of stairs and silence yourself.

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Condoleezza Rice6194d ago

And this ^ ,is exactly why Blu Ray will be the last great Disc Format.

clintos596194d ago

Also would like to add, even though there is more space to this, it doesnt matter because bluray surpasses this not only in space if needed with a whopping 100 to 200gb bluray disc's but also has better hd quality picture, better surround sound quality, and can hold much more on one disc. I aint no expert and all but I can see just from dvd making this, shows the fear they have in bluray taking over as the new standard format.

Rageanitus6194d ago

Hence its another format..... its just another evolution of the optical disc formats.

meepmoopmeep6194d ago

i wouldn't jump ahead and say it's the last great optical disc unless the future goes to a new medium that's not disc based.

BlueRevolvuR6194d ago

too late I think for a new dvd. I've already been purchasing new releases on bd since May 2007. Plus I like blu-ray's casing better.

Obama6194d ago

What's the use if it is not compatible with current dvd players?
Bladestar got owned.

TheExodus6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

No, actually Bladestar is being rational while you reek of something more suited to the next tab.

The last refresh to the DVD format was the addition of DVD+R/DVD+RW. There isn't a single 1st generation DVD player that can read this format and hardware iterations as recent as the PS2 have trouble with it depending on the brand of disc and how it was recorded.

Fact is the original single layer DVD that was introduced in 1993 has already undergone two extreme evolutionary changes (DVD DL and DVD+R/DVD+RW) yet survives to this day as the dominant media format for video distribution.

Consumers aren't exactly beating a path to Sony's door for Blu-ray now that HD DVD is out of the way, so why are you so quick to discount DVD undergoing a third extreme evolutionary change (Super DVD) to remain the dominant media format for video distribution?

MikeGdaGod6194d ago

bladestar's whole point was to say the bluray isn't really needed and it's bad because you're "forced" to buy new hardware for it. yet he failed to realize that this new dvd would still require you to buy new hardware to be able to use it......same as bluray.

he tried to knock bluray, and in turn, knocked himself. please don't try to defend him. you only make yourself look bad.

jke826194d ago

the fact remains that it would still be required for you to get new hardware making the whole move to "super dvd" pointless. dvd is not going to remain as the dominant format because its a new format requiring you to get new hardware where as the old mutations that dvd took on didn't....

TheExodus6194d ago (Edited 6194d ago )

Good Will Hunting was released on DVD in '98 and it was the 1st DVD that my 1st generation player couldn't read, but 1 disc out of hundreds didn't force an upgrade so my 1st generation player wasn't replaced until Christmas of '99.

My 2nd DVD player upgrade came in '02. The original releases of Bedazzled & Planet of the Apes were both Nuon enhanced DVDs. Nuon enchanced DVDs didn't force an upgrade, but I just had to play Tempest 3000.

It's not only hardware that has needed to be upgraded over DVD's decade long run. Last month I repurchased Stargate because my 1st generation disc is double-sided single-layer which means I had to flip the disc half way through, a pain in the a** that DVD's dual-layer evolution resolved. I also repurchased Waterworld because the DVD-ROM in my Mac couldn't read the 1st generation disc for some reason.

Super DVD would require a player upgrade just like previous iterations of DVD, but most of those could again be made via attrition. Blu-ray also requires a player upgrade. IMO the viability of Super DVD would come down to cost & consumer reluctance to let go of DVD. If support for Super DVD can be added to DVD players without increasing the cost of players or discs Blu-ray could quickly be history.

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Switch 2 accessory makers are “working hard” on magnetic analogue sticks to combat stick drift

Nintendo Switch 2 stick drift is already an issue, but accessory makers are already working on magnetic joysticks.

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Neonridr1d 19h ago

I've never had stick drift in any controller I've ever owned. All my joycons (3 sets) from my Switch are perfectly fine. My Switch 2 ones are good. Never had a dualshock / dualsense have it (did have a dualshock get a stuck trigger once). Even my Valve Index controllers which were notorious for drift were fine for me.

Goodguy011d 16h ago

Varies. Just because you've never had one doesn't mean others won't. I've had PS, Xbox, and Nintendo controllers indeed drift on me. Remember the drift lawsuits that Nintendo has had.

Please stop trying to say that traditional potentiometers are absolutely fine when hall effect/tmr sticks are beyond superior lol, not sure why so many people keep trying to defend potentiometers when hall effects are so pro consumer.
Companies like nintendo, sony, and mcsft don't want to implement them simply because they want you the consumer to keep buying them. Most casuals will just buy a new controller if theirs difts, easy money for the big 3.
I've gone hall effects and have never gone back, can leave my controllers out absolutely fine without worry of dust ruining the sticks.

Neonridr1d 16h ago

when did I say that traditional joysticks are absolutely fine? I'm sharing my own experience here. I never said that others don't experience issues, nor that this is somehow acceptable. Strange leapfrog from A to B on that one.

People love to say it's a huge widespread issue, yet you only hear about it because the minority is vocal whereas the majority don't report anything because they are fine.

I'm happy you switched to hall effect sticks, if that's what works for you, then awesome.

Christopher1d 16h ago

Cool? Pretty sure this is for those who are having it happen. Not sure how your anecdote addresses other peoples' problems.

Neonridr1d 12h ago

people around here act like everyone will get drift. I'm willing to wager more people won't get drift than will.

Pyrofire9516h ago

lucky you. I've only had minor drift once in my L Joycon which I fixed with some card stock, but drift is an undeniable problem as a whole.

repsahj13h ago

My 2 sets of Joy-Cons from my OG Switch started to drift with just a month of use. That is why I bought Dobe Joy-Cons with just $25, and until now they are still fine. I hope this will never happen again on my Switch 2.

jznrpg8h ago

My left joy con for the OG Switch got stick drift right away as well. I never had issues with my PS5 controllers since launch until I got my kids PS5’s and they had stick drift with 2 controllers. They drop them because they are kids and although I have them wash their hands before gaming they still get gunk under them somehow. I got their controllers modded because they would have issues no matter what I have them do.

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jznrpg15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

The tech is already there. I had a couple of my PS5 controllers modded with Hall Effect modules and they work great. They should come standard with them these days but they don’t.

OtterX15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Nyxi already made some fantastic Hall Effect controllers for Switch 1. I don't know why Nintendo couldn't have it by now if Nyxi has had for years.

spoonard12h ago

Cheap, frictionless sensors ALREADY exist. Why are they "working hard to combat stick drift"? Stick drift should be a thing of the past at this point. The technology is here...NOW. It has been...for YEARS! Why is stick drift even still spoken about? It shouldn't exist!

Chocoburger4h ago

Because its a scam for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft to sell more overpriced controllers.

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola4d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion2d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola2d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin2d ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola2d ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop2d ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel11d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola1d 11h ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel115h ago(Edited 15h ago)

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris4d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK2d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds2d ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar2d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy2d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel11d 22h ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola4d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer2d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused2d ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion2d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher2d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer2d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion2d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola2d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje2d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola2d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused2d ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno2d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool2d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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Silly Polly Beast: A Silent Girl's Fight for Freedom • VGMM

Play as Polly, a silent girl on the run from her dark past in this neon-soaked psychological horror shooter.

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