GeekParty's Jake Valentine is bewildered by Nintendo's lack of marketing for the Wii U's uniquely excellent roster of exclusives.
Let's be real: the Wii U doesn't even have the best exclusives among the current Nintendo systems.
The 3ds has been out since 2011, how is that a fair comparison? The Wii U has a lot of quality games, more than the other two 8th gen consoles. Of course it's also been out longer, so it would be a shame if it didn't. But all you have to do is look at the top ten highest rated next gen games, which is about half Wii U, to know that it has some great games.
It has a ton of quality games, though it has nothing in the way of big name 3rd party games. Hell, it's getting Watch Dogs months after previous gen systems and it won't be getting any of the big name ones coming out for the holiday season. People like variety, and when you competition can offer big names like GTA, COD:AW , DA:I, Far Cry 4, Dark Knight, Evolve, Mortal Kombat, etc and you can only offer hope that the companies will come to you... Doesn't always look good. Also, "best" is subjective. Someone might enjoy running around Middle Earth more so than running around as Mario in a cat costume, for example.
@rdgneoz3 Well, when i said "quality" i was referring to critical reception. But I wholeheartedly agree, thats why i never said "best", different strokes for different folks.
@rdgnoez3 well theres more to it than mario like xenoblade smash bros splatoon wonderful101 you get the idea
"The Wii U Has the Best Exclusives, but Nintendo Isn’t Mentioning This" That's debatable. Personally, I'm not too fond of most Nintendo exclusives. Taking a look at WiiU exclusives... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... ... I would be only interested 3 or 4 of those games.
I don't think it is debatable at all, on this generation's console (I'll argue PS3 has the best, due to its extensive library at this point.) At the moment, how many Xone or PS4 exclusives would you be interested in? There aren't that many to choose from.
I'm pickin' up what he is puttin' down, but until I can count on some physical friends showing up on my couch consistently I can't justify the system.
A lot of the games are single player with an option of coop. As for your friend situation, I would suggest making friends... I don't have friends come over much due to our life schedules but if we can get together even once a week a few or all of us things get real fun. Sorry you don't have friends and think that's what justifies this system.
Only losers play Mario kart or Mario party by themselves.. So depressing
Trust me, just bought a Wii u, all the games I was told by journalists were great games, cant hold my attention for more than a couple days, im already about to trade Wind Waker... WHAT ARE THESE REVIEWERS TALKING ABOUT. To give a game thats solid at best 9's? Why? Now next year is when youll see the Wii U ramp up, That Zelda game looks much better, a possibility of seeing a new Starfox, Splatoon and Smash at the end of this year, now its getting worthwhile exclusives...
The Wii U has to have amazing exclusives because 3rd party games rarely touch the platform.
Pretty damn true.
Agreed, Just like the other 2 consoles ps4 and xbox one need to have good third party as their exclusives are average at best.
I think most people are aware Nintendo has a lot of unique exclusives but the lack of 3rd party support and a proper online system equivalent to PSN/Live puts people away.
Destiny and shadow of mordor may not be exclusives. But they are exclusively not on the wii u
Although logically it makes sense I don't think it can be used in here. If you ask yourself "Wii U exclusives X PS4 exclusives X Xbox One exclusives", destiny and mordor aren't in any list, thus not exclusives.
It does have great exclusives. The problem is that if you want to play anything else, you're S.O.L.
I think Nintendo have been quiet to save face, Coming from an sub hd system, To then learn and catch up on hd building. has taking its toll. Why advertise a system you have to learn on till you have started to master said skill. maybe explain why the wii u was below par on spec. If Nintendo came out the gate with the same hardware as ps4/xbox1 would amountedto massive losses. as Nintendo still had to learn how to make HD games. Now with the wiiu as present, a lost has been taking but kept to an minimum. Nintendo Now have the skill and Games to bring to the table.
This is an interesting concept. I think they have been dealing with a huge false negative. The gamers have changed drastically. They like sand boxes and shy away from challenges unless it is like cod. We went from a UK that loved japan's best to actually hating japan and double downing on stuff like ubisoft and who ever makes a soccer game. I'm not sure if it is a problem created by designers or publishers at the moment. You know nintendo use to be the gateway to gaming then as people got older they went pc or sony/ms. Now they are going mobile first so it is hard to satisfy that type of gamer. It seems nintendo has decided to cater to the last few gamers that enjoyed their games. I believe the majority of current wiiu owners are around 15 and up. Any one younger than that only knows pokemon from nintendo, which may explain why so many want a pokemon console game. The nintendo directs are partly to get critique from those gamers. The process of going hd was a minimal issue the tools have matured at an incredible rate, nintendo uses maya last time I checked, so that wasn't the bottle neck. Gpgpu api creation and optimizing was the true issue along with combining the handheld and console r and d. This is actually what caused the financial issues. I think nintendo is looking at the handheld to be a mass market device and the wiiu as a niche until the next group of pokemon fighters grow up. Word of mouth I believe means more to them. So far it is paying off from a developer perspective. They have one of the best 2d and 3d platformer engines, kart racing engines, and 2d plain fighters. Next gen will be the true icing on the cake even though the wiiu is technically game play wise good enough. By contrast we got nintendo full upgrade to hd in less than a year compared to sony taking 3 years, years two for the ps3 was full of delays if you remember then things got better. If any thing nintendo could brag about how fast they did it and the level of game play and frame rates did not suffer to make it happen. They also did it with full backwards compatibility while supporting all of their old interfaces. Now they only need a gpu deal that will post great specs and be very affordable or very scalable. Then it's time to advertise. Notice how ms and Sony put salesmanship on stage and Nintendo put games on stage. Notice how AAA from 3rd parties are selling huge numbers yet people just arn't happy. That is not normal. For context nintendo sells huge numbers yet no one trades in nintendo games. I think they are just focusing their money in the important places first. Plus you could argue that sony isn't ready to provide what they have advertised. Look at drive club and all of their games released so far. Look at the specs and realize they are not producing the huge advantage you are paying for. This is Nintendo game to win they want to. Sony and ms have no 1st threats for addictive game play and they are not getting and keeping younger gamers playing. You see ms and Sony need nintendo's kid magnet to work and if Nintendo ever gets another rare that can produce darker popular games along with a few others it could spell game over. You see something similar happened with sega.
XBox and Playstation have Minecraft which is the biggest kid magnet toad and has been- IMO one of the worst mistakes Nintendo has made is not getting Minecraft on WiiU because it has caused them to loose thar edge they had as a kid magnet - netween Minecraft and IOS games, many of those kids that once defaulted to Nimtendo for their early gaming experiences are not there this generation - a huge advantage to let slip,away Nintendo not knowing how to develop HD games after they released an HD console wS inexcusable - to compare it to PS3 developing HD 10 years ago is ridiculous- technology and it's use is carried forward and built on- tech companies don t start every generAtion Of their gear/ software by reinventing the wheel 1st - Nintendo should have had the advantage of Xbox and Playstaion going 1st and learning from their mistakes. Not starting over like developing games in HD was something new in late 2012
Both of you have good points. this is my own opinion and I hate being a gamer who lives in the uk. The shame of walking into game and only seeing 10 wii u games that' on display has cost them business, as i had to look online for said game. Trying to pre order or even trying to buy any Nintendo game has sometimes been a long wait and very hard work. Then see people fight over which fifa/cod looks next gen make me think when did the uk become an island of insecure sheep. force fed the same shit time after time and 90% of people i know lap it up. I have friends who bought an xbox one for fifa and will play till next one released. not buying anything else. You could look at the Wii U as the underground console of this generation in the uk. the kids and casual have left the wii behind and bought into the hype train of next gen greatness. Fair play to ps/xbox as casual spend money and buy into hype. I for one loves the fact Nintendo console in a hard place right now. this means we are seeing the Gamecube all over again. Where Nintendo have to come out fighting and when Nintendo do we get some amazing games and im very happy.
Dunban mine craft is actually very cloneable. Two are being made for the wiiu as we speak. Yet you are right nintendo needed that game possibly. Yet hold up!? One game does not stand up against years of little carts these younger gamers can get. I'm talking about ds and 3ds. Minecraft can be played anywhere really and ms buying them was sort of a stupid move since the game is already everywhere. I'm not sure what you mean about building on the existing tech or not knowing how to make hd games after building a console.... it seems they finished making almost half their ips in two years. Where are the sony and ms ips? It is ok for them to make new content and learn their systems but not nintendo right? Don't be so illogical. Everything must be rewriting for a gpgpu to run it full tilt. Right now sony and ms are using converters but soon they will all have to write for the gpgpu and Nintendo has the advantage because they started earlier and didn't just convert the code over. Ms and Sony simply must start over now. Notice how those two boxes have no bc. So how has 7 years of making mediocre hd games helped them? The tech for making hd games has not changed since the end of last gen. So I'm not sure what you are getting at. It was a smart move to let the tech mature then develop for it. I mean we are finally getting hd games after 6 years of fighting over resolutions and bad framerates. Well sort of ;£ . I don't see how Nintendo still doesn't have the advantage. Sure they are not selling well but really sony is very vulnerable right now. They could get vita'd. Ubisoft is already about to pull steam games and are rumored to be trying to make a steam of their own. I'm sure many others will be trying this. It really comes down to which fanbase is desperate enough to tolerate drm after the back lash. Tinypop well I think everyone will come to their senses or we will see a lot of systems with just no game sales. The good thing is Nintendo is still fighting the good fight. It is pointless to get distracted by things that are flawed at the core. Sure fanboys want a fight but that is just because they are bored. No one really cares about sales yet every one cares if they are having fun. Once the recession go away again things will get back to normal.
Let me fix that for you. The Wii U has the best exclusives....if you're under the age of 13 or if you're a die-hard Nintendo fan.
'Cause a game needs to have mature themes to be good. Get over these statements already.
He didn't say anything about mature themes, though you can't deny Nintendo has always had a pretty square focus on being family- and thus, kid- friendly.
>if your're under the age of 13 seems like your 13 years old. Wii U has great game right now and 2015 looks promising.
They only have the best exclusives if you appreciate solid game design, unique concepts, great art direction, and a focus on value and consumer benefit. Otherwise what's the point if your games don't look realistic or aren't filled with guns.
Polygon gave Bayonetta 2 a lower score than others because of the apparently "OVER-SEXUALIZATION" , and the game has NEVER been on any Nintendo console. And it's a possible GOTY. Just Bayonetta 2 breaks your comment completely.
I love these statements from people. A lot of gamers are under the impression that a game has to have a war-driven, hardcore soldier who cusses and shoots big guns in an apocalypse for the game to be fun. This isn't the case at all as Nintendo keeps proving that while clichéd of video game genre wrong by pumping out games that are not only colorful and light hearted but challenging and overall fun. This is something I hope to see both of the other companies do. Something I see a lot in Sunset Overdrive...even though there's a ton of cussing in that...but baby steps, in time I think we'll get there.
People who think they are too grown up for colorful games with playful themes are infact immature and insecure in reality.
I had never used a Nintendo product prior to the Wii, and then I switch mostly to PS3, and I'm old enough to have programmed with punch cards. The Wii U "at the moment" has the best exclusives in this generation. That is just fact (from an old guy who isn't a fanboy of anything)
Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third are very clearly NOT for 13 year olds...
Nintendo should also advertise that their online is free but they don't.
Thats because most of their games don't support that feature with a exception of a few ;)
Actaully because of Miiverse integration you could make the argument that every U game is online, I may not be able to play every game on the net with others but I always have a thriving community around me at just the push of a button..
Nintendo lacks marketing, they could do so much better on their advertisement front. Hope this changes next year.
I just saw a Sony commercial where they advertise off TV play using a Sony Experia and a PlayStation 4 that better illustrated off TV play than any Wii U commercial did. They really should fire all their marketing people and get better personnel handily their marketing.
Really like the Nintendo exclusives and some great looking ones in the works, it's lack of third party support makes the wii u a good second console along side a ps4 or x1 you miss out on too much just having only the wii u. The wii seemed to have a lot of random developers making stuff for it like cooking mama, wii u hasn't been able to get those kind of people back maybe they all busy making ipad and android stuff now.
Nintendo have the best exclusives because they make them themselves and aren't reliant on others to do their work for them! It's all good being able to make pretty pictures and a shed load of power under the hood but if you're not capable of utilizing that yourself then its quite laughable!! I'll enjoy playing ZombiU, Bayo2, HyWarr etc while all the 'Mature' gamers argue about whose picture looks prettier or who's machine has the better frame rate....after all, thats what makes a game GOTY contender, right?!
wiiU has the best exclusives....for now
And in the future ... Nintendo always has the best Exclusives since the best publisher of games .... aka Nintendo .... only supports Nintendo systems. OVERALL ... X-Box One and Playstation 4 will have better games overall due to having 95% of all the multiplatform third party games that Nintendo doesn't get. But in a strict comparison of Sony as a publisher vs Microsoft as a publisher vs Nintendo as a publisher ... Nintendo wins pretty easily. Neither Sony or Microsoft would survive like Nintendo has without third party support. Nintendo as a publisher is number one without question. As a console maker and the decisions they come up with are what you can question.
Not sure about BEST exclusives... But it DOES have Bayonetta 2... which is sorta kinda the greatest CAG I've ever played.
those so called great exclusives arent selling, after bayonetta 2 fails wiiu fanboys will use smash next and when that doesnt sell like it could or should you will use the toad game or splatoon, lets face it the 1s hurting the wiiu are the wiiu owners if they supported it more it would be selling, I predict the wiiu wont even reach gamecube numbers this generation sadly
So you think Bayonetta 2 is failing? What percentage of the install base are you happy with them attaining for it not to be a failure .... in your eyes? At the moment it appears Bayonetta 2 will hit close to 7%. For a mature title on any console, that is significant.
Who cares about numbers. How does that change the fact they are enjoying their games just as you're enjoying.. lol.. umm driveclub and destiny. Troll.
Nintendo hasn't really advertised since the N64 era. They seem to think that simply because their brand has, in many ways, become synonymous with video games, that people will still turn to their brand when it comes time to buy a new platform. Sadly, the biggest market these days is the casual crowd, and they tend to make their decisions based solely on advertising. So to them, the WiiU may well not exist.
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