Nvidia: Golden Days of Consoles Are Over, So Many Other Ways To Enjoy Games

Nvidia's CEO at the recent earnings call stated that the best period of console gaming is over and now there are many alternatives to properly enjoy games.

[Nyxus]

Hardware sales suggest otherwise.

[codelyoko]

Actually hardware sales DO suggest the same. The trick is differentiating the mainstream PC OEM industry (usually without GPUs) from the Gaming Oriented hardware.

Nvidia's share price has been enjoying an absolutely positive trend since the past 7 years or so and thats 60% of the PC Gaming industry right there. AMD is in a bit of a pickle with a fluctuating trend but that is because R&D costs are too high, and they can't afford it. And imagine for a second that AMD powers consoles while there aint a single Nvidia Chip in any console. Thankfully for consoles, AMD is protected from insolvency by Law ;) If AMD dies, Nvidia will become a monopoly (which Laws prohibit).

Still, I dont believe for a second that consoles are dying anytime soon. Both platforms have their advantages and both should and will co exist for the forseeable future.

[Nyxus]

I was just talking about the fact that this generation of consoles (especially the PS4) is setting all kinds of sales records. I agree with you that both consoles and PC will coexist.

[DeadRabbits]

If I had of built my PC first I would never have got a PS4. For heavens sake I just got CODAW for 34 euro compared to 60 euro on PS4 and FIFA 15 is now going for 24 euro on PC.
Also I am playing through Skyrim I bought for 5 euro modded out to the max!

[TFJWM]

Umm anti-trust laws do not work like how you are implying. If AMD had to sell off all their assets the law would prevent Nvidea from buying them up not other companies.

[Sy_Wolf]

Actually sales show consoles have never been in a better place. The PS4 is the fastest sellng console ever...

[Wizard_King]

What they are saying is the golden era of consoles is over and that is true.

-Lowest launch game count of any gen ever
-for 1 year in lowest game count of any gen ever
-most expensive games of any gen ever
-shortest single player experiences on consoles of any generation ever
-Paying to access online multiplayer is a console standard now
-planned and withheld content now sold as DLC after the fact is a norm on consoles now
-Still using shitty p2p networks for AAA shooters (only on consoles lol)
-Smartphones launching with faster CPUs and GPUs paired with 2k and 4k screens

Yeah I'd say the golden age for consoles is well and truly over. The best times for consoles where the PS2/Xbox days and things have progressively gone down hill since then.

Prove me wrong.

Meanwhile PC gaming goes from strength to strength and is what you choose to make of it. Literally 1000's of fantastic titles out there.

[mep69]

@Wizard_King Yeah, i regret buying my PS4 a launch. I've got 4 games and only completed 3. I've used my nintendo wii more than then PS4 so far.
PC all the way :P

[thekhurg]

Agree - consoles aren't dying anytime soon.

[Chris558]

Wizard you forgot about cheapest consoles ever and best architecture (easy to make games for ever) etc

[Chrischi1988]

I wonder, if consoles will decline in sales, or if companies will pull a smartphone with consoles. Dont understand me wrong, what I mean with pull a smartphone is, release a new console every or every 2 years, make an OS which runs on all these consoles (of course Sony and MS and Nintendo all have their own OS) and make it like with smartphones. I kind of think Nintendo already did something like this, with the New 3DS. And that thing is selling like hotcakes. Who knows what will happen. I mean, we all know technology is evolving faster than ever. A new device becomes old faster than ever. So maybe that is the way of the future... Not too expensive consoles, just always up to date, if you know how I mean that.

Not that I want that^^ I like it better the way it is, but who knows, what will happen.

I am waiting for play online contracts, for 2 years, that will get you a console, just like with smartphones nowadays. This concept could actually work.

It is something like, pay $20 per month, play online and get the newest console or something like that...

[King_of_Nothing]

I know you have a law degree from the internet, but that's not how law relating to monopolies nor insolvency/bankruptcy work...like at all. Its not illegal to be a monopoly per se, that is until there's anti-competitive acts taken by the company in a relevant market.

Also, please elaborate on this special status enjoyed by AMD that cuts out an exception in the legal system and economic market for them to be protected from insolvency.

PS. there's a reason people go to school for 7+ years to practice law, one is to avoid spouting false information. kthxbye

[jdiggitty]

AMD stock price has gone from $10 five years ago to $2.75 today. They have never paid a dividend either. Did you even bother to look at the share prices before writing that?

[jebabcock]

Well since ati owns the console space and nvidia failed to enter it on its own. Do you expect them to say any different?

[Ju]

Wizard_King:

All this applies to PC gaming as well

-Lowest launch game count of any gen ever

Does a PC actually have a launch window? # of games on PC does not really exceed console releases, however, not all console games are released on PC either.

-for 1 year in lowest game count of any gen ever
-most expensive games of any gen ever

These two are probably related: Highest production value of games ever. We can debate gameplay, but from the level of details which are going into todays games and the budget this requires release are slower - and yet I am still budget constraint to play everything I want. And yet, I would argue, without consoles, those games would probably never come to PCs.

-shortest single player experiences on consoles of any generation ever

How is this different on PCs? Those games run there, too.

-Paying to access online multiplayer is a console standard now

How is this different on PC? XBL costs money there, too. Rest...well...I'l get to that.

-planned and withheld content now sold as DLC after the fact is a norm on consoles now

How is this different on PCs? You get the same DLC.

-Still using shitty p2p networks for AAA shooters (only on consoles lol)

How is this different on PCs? The servers are exactly the same. What makes it worse is, there is not a single online platform but 3 or 4 or what do I know how many (XBL, Steam, Origin, GameSpy and what not). None of those has dedicated servers (XBL probably offers the same access to servers on PC and XBO).

-Smartphones launching with faster CPUs and GPUs paired with 2k and 4k screens

Nope. Far slower CPU/GPU and 2k/4K on a tiny screen just covers up the lack of polygons and details games in that resolution actually have. Those are far behind even last gen consoles (still - while they are getting close).

It's the typical NVidia PR. Promis, promis, promis. Yet I fail to see them deliver.

[UltimateMaster]

@Wizard_King

-Lowest launch game count of any gen ever
-for 1 year in lowest ever game count of any gen

The PS Vita had the highest game count launch of any console in history and exclusives it's first year, even more than the PS2. How's that in any way relevant to sales?

-most expensive games of any gen ever

Same price as last gen.

-shortest single player experiences on consoles of any generation ever

I remember how Heavenly Sword and Genji on the PS3 was much shorter than any of the PS4 exclusive titles.

-Paying to access online multiplayer is a console standard now

It's always been the case on Xbox, that never stop people from paying before. It's not the case on the portable consoles and Wii U.

-planned and withheld content now sold as DLC after the fact is a norm on consoles now

Also true for PC, nothing different.

-Still using shitty p2p networks for AAA shooters (only on consoles lol)

That's ESPECIALLY True on PC. Unless you're playing some huge MMO, you will be getting p2p.

-Smartphones launching with faster CPUs and GPUs paired with 2k and 4k screens

Name one. (Readies pop corn)
Then tell me which AAA games runs on smartphones.

@DeadRabbits

COD AW is already half price for consoles (30$)
at some retailers.
http://n4g.com/news/1617692...
They sell you the "Day Zero" because they know that day 2, it'll be half price, or at least it will be when Black Friday arrives.

[Antifan]

Why don't nvidia come sell me a gaming PC at the same price point as ps4 and xbone, then I'll believe them. Until then, it's all rubbish.

[ProjectVulcan]

Golden days died with the PS2 for me. PC has been declared dead so many times the past two decades and yet it's very much thriving even in the face of new consoles.

This shows how strong it has become. Traditionally new consoles signalled a serious slump in PC GPU sales until it picked up later in the console's life, they often dictated the health of PC, but now PS4 and Xbox One launches haven't made remotely the same impact.

[starchild]

Well said. Both PC and consoles are flourishing. All of the platforms are doing well and we should just be happy that we are living in a golden age of gaming. There has never been a greater diversity of games and different ways to enjoy them than there is right now.

[Utalkin2me]

So if that is true, then why would they even comment about it? Nvidia getting a little to cocky for their own good and personally makes me want to buy ATI for my next card.

[UnHoly_One]

@Wizard_King

"Lowest launch game count of any gen ever"

N64 launched with 2 available games in the US.

TWO.

Mario and Pilotwings

[decrypt]

@Nyxus

Consoles have no games. Hardware useless without games.

[rocketpanda]

Consoles have no games is what a 5 year old would say without giving justification for your argument because you seem to show favour to a particular platform. Just because there are multiplatform games you can get on the PC doesn't make any other platform less relevant. Some people prefer not upgrading their hardware or drivers and content wotwith not having the super uber visuals.

Just because there is nothing "you" find appealing on consoles doesn't mean there are no games!

[thekhurg]

"Consoles have no games."

Said no one ever.

[ShinMaster]

One could argue similarly for high-end PCs, with no more than 2 games that take advantage of that hardware and the most popular games on PC being MOBAs, MMOs, indies, all that hardware is pointless.

[Mithan]

Not really.

[snookiegamer]

Nvidia are just salty that they didn't get the current gen contract. Nvidia would be singing from a different Hymn sheet had their components been chosen for PS4/X1 instead of AMD.

I imagine PC Gamer's will share a different opinion...Some are as much a fanboy as any PS/Xbox user, except with added elitism!

[Azzanation]

Your correct, that's why this article exist, Nvidia is killing the competition in sales and destroying console sales aswell. You don't need Sony or Xbox to invest 2 to 3 billion in R and D to produce console hardware when there are other ways to game.

[Magicite]

There have always been many alternatives, but for now all software sells best on PS4, so sorry Nvidia.

[starchild]

Proof?

And I'm not talking about pointing to one or two games we have sales figures for. I'm talking about proof that shows there are more games sold on PS4 than PC.

I would be willing to bet that there are more games sold on PC overall than any other platform. But sadly I don't think such figures are available. PC simply gets more games than any other platform so sales are spread out among more games.

[venom_awakens]

Dimitrijs88 I completely agree with you.
You all that disagree what is your problem?
why you can't face the truth.
Most of the multiplatform games sell best on ps4 that's why you especially pc gamers take ports...

[breakpad]

i dont understand why so much hatred from Nvidia towrd consoles ..and is this due to AMD preferences of the two major console Companies ? is this due to PS4 overdominance , which dont be hypocrites is a japanese company that destroys sales of other consoles and PCs in Nvidia s area which is gaming. PS4 (and Xbone , Wii) create a serious competition against a graphic card manufacture who mainly targets PC gaming ...Nvdia gtfo you are just buthurt from consoles exclusive gaming (which is far superior than PCs)and a possible decline of high end-PC building

[ABizzel1]

@gamepard

Yes and No. NVIDIA wants to be a Monopoly or as close to it as possible. So if consoles die, that only leaves PC and mobile. NVIDIA is the biggest GPU manufacturer in PC gaming, so they could finally try to put the nail in AMD, and they're becoming possibly the best Mobile Performer as well with their current Tegra plans. Although the competition in mobile is harder for them, because there are already established players who control most of the market share already. The only good news for NVIDIA is technologically (GPU wise at least) they are slightly ahead of the curve with the main players playing catch-up a few months later.

It's just pure corporate greed, and something that needs to be balanced, because if it's only NVIDIA I can guarantee you the price of gaming will skyrocket.

[r1sh12]

Theres a few things that are misrepresented, the old days gaming and games was a bit niche, dont get me wrong it might have been big but nothing compared to the present. Now a days its a lot more accepted, hence the number of casuals who play certain titles like COD because their friends/ family members do.

The total number of console games has increased exponentially, hence the great sales of the current gen (xbone/ps4).
Again whilst PS4/xbone sales are a good indicator of sales, we actually dont know how many of those sales were upgrades from the previous gen, whereas with PC one of the first things to 'upgrade' is usually the GPU or RAM, and therefore a new PC would not need to be purchased.
hence the numbers would never directly correlate, I have to say from being a gamer across pretty much most platforms over the past 15ish years PC did drop off for the past 10 or so, but its made a very strong comeback.
For the first time in many years I have not purchased release day consoles, for the moment although the PS4 is amazingly good value, there is no proposition for me to purchase either of the consoles, because the majority of the games I do want are on PC, albeit different release dates in some cases (GTA V etc).

With exclusives on PS4/xbone I have the same luxuries with PC where things like DayZ etc are actually just as fun.
Consoles will never die, but the momentum for PC is growing.
With the steambox it could disrupt home gaming a little and whilst the initial cost of a gaming PC is higher than a console, the games are cheaper so over a generation I would spend less.
I also would not need to pay for online gaming like XBL and PSN/SSN

[r1sh12]

@Frostypants..
I work with Nvidia commercially and they have a lot more going on than most would realise.
E.g the Tesla range of cards are used for facial recognition and there really isnt anyone competing.
I know I work for enterprise security and we integrate NEC neoface who spec tesla cards for production systems.

Nvidia also have the tegra cards going into small applications to use cuda cores to do live computing on ANPR, facial rec etc...

Nvidia of course make a lot of money on PC gaming, and thats their core market and they are not really in the console war so they do need to get into that market somehow.
PC gaming/ steam boxes are a way to do so, I doubt they will do much damage for now anyway

[2cents]

of course they would say this because the days of console gaming is over for them!
They can keep all the 'other' ways of gaming.

I think we are all very happy to continue to play fully fledged games on our consoles for many years to come, while we continue to be amused at 'other ways to play games'.

Nice try Nvidia

[frostypants]

Yeah, Nvidia desperately wants the golden age of "real" PC gaming to return (today's numbers are inflated by Farmville-like stuff), because even when they get their hardware into consoles, they have to deal with the low margins of volume pricing imposed by MS and Sony. Console success in turn makes people less likely to buy powerful PC hardware, resulting in people buying Nvidia's lower spec GPUs, so it's sort of a double-windfall for them if they can push people back to the mid-high PC market. This is more wishful thinking than reality by Nvidia. Consoles have never sold better than this.

I used to do the majority of my gaming on PCs. No longer...and the reasons are becoming fewer.

[hiredhelp]

Firstly dont attack me green team ive stated countless times ive batted both teams greens and reds.
But finally the ceo shows true colors all cos AMD has there hardware this gen consoles and yes you maybe taking lead on pc platform but to count out consoles is stupid.

[SilentNegotiator]

I think every generation of consoles has sold more hardware than the last, so...

[Dannylew]

Not only :d hahahah but this desperate intention to talking bad about "console" in a world that is more and more smart and portable... is completely out!!!...

only nvidia "because feels InVIDIA" are capable of this affermation.

[Clunkyd]

yep, even if a high end PC was the same price of a console, I still wouldn't get one for the reason that I find gaming on a computer unappealing. That and for the reason that it doesn't have good AAA exclusives on there. IMO

[16bitNutritionist]

Give me a way of experiencing all the AAA exclusives that console get on another system and I'll give it a serious look...it will never happen though...

[Dynasty2021]

What?

PC hardware sales are officially outselling consoles.

PC gaming hardware is doing better than ever. Wake up.

And I love how everyone is saying Nvidia is clearly miffed at losing out to AMD.

You idiots. You absolute console idiots. AMD were picked BECAUSE THEY WERE THE CHEAPEST, TO REDUCE THE PRICE OF YOUR DATED HARDWARE BRICK.

Nvidia has always been, FOREVER, given you the best "Bang for your buck" - they have as near as makes no difference beaten AMD in every card category/price band in over 10 years, simply out-powering them, using less power, less heat, more FPS etc, and so many games are made for PC specifically coded to make use of Nvidia combined with Intel, to the point where I'm surprised if a game fires up and says "AMD" instead of "Nvidia" in the loading screen/intro.

The ONLY reason you choose AMD is to save money. They're a poor man's hardware.

Kind of like a console.

[Crazay]

you seem...sad or upset. need a hug?

[Elronza]

You speak the absolute truth bro! I own both an Asus Rog G46vw and an Nvidia Shield Portable And don't even remotely care to own one of these under-powered consoles this generation! Not to mention my 3g PS Vita and PS3 collect dust!While the console gamers are arguing about 900p vs 1080p. I and my Gtx 660m are playing games in 4k same goes for my Nvidia Shield Portable! http://www.gameranx.com/upd... https://forums.geforce.com/...

[Muzikguy]

So when PS5 gets released their going to change their minds and put a card in it?! Nvidia keeps talking trash. I'll take a console over a phone/tablet any day thank you very much

[KillerResistance]

but would u take a console over a PC Gaming Machine that has a NVidia GTX980, i7, and a 4k Monitor? what does phone/tablet have to do with Nvidia? they're PC GPU company

[Muzikguy]

Well the talk is about so many other ways to play games. PC is just one

"He also mentioned the fact that Android is poised to be a great mobile gaming platform of the future."

That's why I say tablet and phone

[Crazay]

So says the CEO of the company that WASN'T picked by any company to be the provider of GPUs in the current market.

[nucky64]

whoever wrote the article needs to explain to me how I can play bloodborne, the order, and uncharted 4....as far as I know there aren't "many alternatives".

[decrypt]

Why would you like to limit yourself to a handful of games (most of which arent even out yet lol).

PC has 30 years of BC with over 4000 games on Steam alone. Not to mention the thousands Steam doesnt have.

In comparison the new consoles have no games.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

So many older games do not work on the newest Windows, and so many more of the newest games no longer support the older versions of Windows. Linux and Mac support for games is laughable. PC gaming involves a a$$ load of troubleshooting for older games while newer games seem to get buggier with every release. Quantity does not mean quality no matter how far you push those graphics.

[WalterWJR]

Ps1 has 1300 games in the US alone so I don't really get your point.

[edqe]

drpepperdude: "Linux and Mac support for games is laughable."

According to wikipedia Linux has hundreds of games more than PS4 or XBox One so the support is not that bad. Sure, many console game ports is still lacking but it has many great PC games.

[sinspirit]

Who's limiting themselves? You think people here only play one console or PC? I play every console I can get my hands on. I primarily game on PC though. I plan on getting a PS4 eventually but I just don't have the money to get a TV along with it right now because I don't have one anymore.

[FriedGoat]

As someone who's gamed on PC since the beginning of the 90's, a back catalogue doesn't help me, i've played all I need to play. PC is lacking in NEW games, MOBAs are boring, all the best shooters such as quake 3 are dead or you can play counterstrike (which i've already played to death).

All you get to play is bad ports. PC doesn't have much going for it for me ATM. Things might change when Star Citizen comes though.

The place for new AAA is consoles, simple as that.

[r1sh12]

@drpepperdue..
What are you talking about?
Every game on steam works with pretty much every major OS for PC, there are updates and patches.
E.g I recently played Knights of the old republic, jedi knight dark forces on windows 8.1 without any issue.

What games are you talking about that need troubleshooting?

[andibandit]

@drpepperdude

just run a virtualized version of whatever windows you need.

[frostypants]

Please stop with the retro games argument. It's older than you are.

@andibandit: The vast majority of people aren't going to, nor want to, set up a virtualized machine just to play an old game. Even if they, like me, know how to.

[decrypt]

@frosty

Retro is just an option, nothing wrong with having options.

Though tell me, why do console gamers jump like little girls when games like Tombraider are announced for new consoles? Those are old games too. So there you go, most of you dont admit it but will go out of the way to pay 2x to get a game back.

Last gen we had PS fans screaming like little girls at the announcement of a God of war trilogy, most of them are even now begging for a uncharted remake on ps4, of course you can be a hypocrite and deny.

For those of you who claim you can hook up an old console to your new HDTV, be my guest enjoy the jaggies on the new TV.

I stand by my statement, PS4 or XB1 hardly have any games. What little exclusives they do have are not system sellers. Multiplats run better on PC anyways, not to mention PC tons of its own exclusives which is a number any console can no longer match even given a decade wont happen.

[codelyoko]

"whoever wrote the article needs to explain" seriously? the poor guy is just quoting Nvidia's CEO. All this game-journalism-hate is starting to get old.

[tee_bag242]

Funny.. You must have a time machine if you're playing them right now

[mysteryraz11]

My number 1 fanboy making a fool out of himself once again, what else is new

[Irishguy95]

Yeah i'm playing them on Ps4 right now...oh oh...no, they aren't out

[masterfox]

"So Many Other Ways To Enjoy Games"<-- I agree on this, but sadly Nvidia doesn't fit in that sentence with their ridiculous GPU prices and wasted raw power, also if hes talking about Mobile gaming he is just retarded then, sorry but thats the hard cold truth ;)

[Vegamyster]

"Nvidia doesn't fit in that sentence with their ridiculous GPU prices and wasted raw power"

The GTX 970 is around the same price as r9 290 but it gives better performance and uses less energy, usually they're more expensive but there cards always draw less energy and have better performance but the price isn't really a factor with their new cards.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

Console gaming is over and now there are many alternatives to 'properly enjoy' games?

So you are saying that PC has the only games that are good and people who played games on old consoles didn't enjoy them properly? Fúç# this guy and this is why I hate the PC community more than the console fanboys community, so many more are full of bull $hit.

[peowpeow]

Some of you are quite sensitive. He didn't say console gaming was over. He did say the 'hay days' were, meaning consoles aren't as dominant as they once were.

[Neofire]

True but anyone with a brain can read in between the lines and see that Nvidia contempt with console sales declining you dont see people making comments about pc software taking dips here and there so why is it so important to Nvidia who has no stake in the console space anymore?

[FriedGoat]

What I love, is that back in the late 90's and 2000's, PC's were leading the way in gaming innovation.

Games like Doom, Quake, Unreal, Half life, hugely different to their dumbed down console counterparts. Loads of exclusives, PC really was the place to be.

Now you'll be lucky to even get any decent exclusive PC triple A titles. One comes along once in a while but still. Ad a PC gamer for over 25 years, I can tell you, now is not the best time to be a PC gamer if you've already played the back catalogue.

[ginsunuva]

They're talking about other devices too, not just PCs.

Nvidia makes android devices now, remember?

[Kalebninja]

I don't think pc has Zelda and pokemon or kingdom hearts and god of war. no Mario either right? or the last of us? yep that's right i'll continue getting my consoles for now. however I do enjoy some pc games i'll give you that but there are waaay more console exclusive that I enjoy.

[Vegamyster]

Well technically it does have those games through emulators minus TLOU (Nes-Wii, PS1-2, dunno about Xbox)

[Neofire]

Im sure he meant "legitimately" and that word technically can be used both ways lol because "technically" those games were never released officially on pc.

[Antifan]

Yep, and it's a pain to set up any kind of emulator. It's very tasking on my CPU, lags horribly and over heats even though I have an i7. It's an overall better experience on the console.

[DoctorJones]

If your pc is overheating I'd suggest sufficient cooling. But judging by your username I can see why you would have a problem.

[frostypants]

Well, technically, everything in life is available to everyone if you steal it like that. Duh...

[Vegamyster]

@frostypants

That wasn't the point i was making, you can't download Mario on the Xone/PS4 but you can on a PC. There is many games on emulators that you just can't buy directly from the company so you either wait until they release it (if they do) or you buy it from others off Ebay.

[Raider69]

The real problem that consoles are going to have is the fact that PC adoption is getting higher and will get even higher,the fact that this new generation on console hardware is actually very underpowerfull when compared to previous ones,and also the fact that you can buy PC hardware that match and go way beyond what consoles can produce in terms of graphics and assets at very cheap prices right now will only make PC adoption get even higher.Its true that consoles have some great exclusives but PC have them also + BC not to mention that people can assemble right now a PC for very cheap and play all those Multiplatform games paying cheaper for them in 1080p@60fps in high or ultra something that it seems this new consoles can not do.I was expecting more from this new console hardware frankly,i still own them all infact!

[GamingTruth]

can go way beyond or match what consoles can produce in terms of graphics? i sure havent seen proof of that

[andibandit]

GTA ICEnhancer

just to name one example

[MadLad]

It helps if you open your eyes.

[starchild]

Of course you haven't. You're one of those delusional people that deny the reality right in front of your eyes.

I owned a PC, PS3, 360 and Wii last generation and I own a PC and a PS4 so far this generation, and there is no doubt at all that the PC always offered the best graphics. Both in terms of having the best graphics on every multiplatform game, as well as simply having the best looking games overall.

[GamingTruth]

ICEnhancer is a nice mod, and that's just what it is a mod still doesn't draw me in like exclusives from even 7th gen consoles

[Inzo]

"The real problem that consoles are going to have is the fact that PC adoption is getting higher and will get even higher"

Pity the games wont get better.

[Seafort]

That's not the gamers fault but the AAA developers/publishers.

They won't take any risks whatsoever so we get the generic crap year after year.

There's is a lot of innovative and different indie games on PC but console only gamers won't know of them as they aren't marketed like console games are.

You can keep telling yourselves that PC has no exclusives and yet I'll be playing those exclusives you've never heard of year after year :)

[Eonjay]

What else do you expect him to say? He needs to convey the message that only his company is capable of creating a good gaming experience. And, that you need to purchase his company's hardware in order to do so. He is, after all, just selling hardware.

Of course, its not up to him. Its up to consumers to chose how they want to game.

[lemoncake]

There are many ways to enjoy games but each device offers a different gaming experience be it console, handheld, PC, tablet, phone, etc.

[s45gr32]

True back in the day when console games were made for consoles. But many today's console games rely and mimic PC gaming to the point is dull. Mainstream platformers, JRPGS, fighting games, weird or odd games, etc. The games that made consoles supreme have been replaced by ancient PC gaming franchises like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Dragon Age (based on dungeons and dragons). Its obsession with fps uJamestown shmup,enemy mind another shmup,last dream jrpg, scepta core,jrpg, freedom planet, dustforce,gianna sister twisted dreams,platformers guess what on PC. So basically PC gaming can give gamers the best of console gaming including playing from a couch and tv along with classic PC gaming like the rts, fps, mmo,etc. for the same price or $200.00 more than a console. ...

[uth11]

butt-hurt much? If their chips were powering the PS4/Xbox1 instead of AMD, they'd be singing a different tune

[tee_bag242]

Actually, AMD would likely be more butthurt. They dropped their pants and manufacturing price to get the contracts to build the hardware because.. if you haven't noticed - are financially struggling and pretty desperate. Nvidia are making money hand over fist.

As for Nvidia's statement 'the golden days are over'.. that's just wishful thinking.

[Maxor]

AMD is struggling, and just like Nvidia learned from the last gen, being tied to the console offer no tangible benefits with the profits being so marginal.

Right now their biggest problem is they have no real answer for the 970 GTX and that's going to be a killer.

[gamer7804]

so consoles selling faster than ever for both MS and Sony is the beginning of the end... OK, i think this is maybe because AMD got the deal instead of nvida.

[DarXyde]

They would say that, considering AMD handles the console GPUs now instead of NVIDIA's RSX in the PS3.

Truth hurts, which is probably why NVIDIA are just being sore losers.

Heck, shortly after the console chipsets were announced/the consoles came out, NVIDIA went out of their way to compare their new GPUs to the current gen consoles to make a point about how it trounces their performance.

Bitterness incarnate.

[OsirisBlack]

I guess you get disagrees for telling the truth around here. DarXyde did not post one inaccuracy. NVIDIA did compare their new GPU's to consoles almost the second they were released. Sure seemed like a ton of butthurt to me.

[DarXyde]

Thanks, mate, but this site is just weird. I've concluded that once you say something unfavorable, be ready for nobody disagrees. Like saying bad things about certain companies is off the table for discussion because they're perfect and wonderful lol.

They can disagree as much as they like. They can't ban me for being honest. If the truth bothers them that much, well, they can eat me. People will disagree without providing ANY substance about why they disagree. Funny thing is, if I agree, I hit agree, but instead of using the disagree when I disagree, I reply.

I'm pretty sure we're dealing mostly with passive aggressive children on this site.

[Roccetarius]

Actually, people disagree because it's a fact, that Nvidia is financially in a better position than AMD.

[DarXyde]

@Roccetarius

Thanks for offering some reasoning. Respect.

But I'll have to disagree somewhat on that reasoning. Yes, NVIDIA may be in a better position financially, but what exactly does that mean? That the console manufacturers SHOULDN'T support AMD? Thing is, while they might be in a better position financially, they are a company, looking to make more money regardless of their abundant resources. That said, NVIDIA still lost out on sales. They made money on over 80 million PlayStation 3s, you know. Now, they're not getting anything.

It sounds a bit sour to me. I assume you're trying to say "NVIDIA is more financially stable, therefore there's no reason for them to be bitter", yes? If so, consider that, with more money, AMD will build resources that may allow them to compete with NVIDIA. I think every company's dream is a consumer's nightmare where that's concerned (I.e., monopolistic ends) so naturally, I think NVIDIA is bitter about that. That's it.

This is my last bubble, so that's my 2 cents. We may fundamentally disagree, but that's alright.

[venom_awakens]

Mgs 5 mgs 4 mgs 3 3 reasons not to buy a pc
I hope tpp to be released on pc a year after the consoles.
Hideo doesnt't deserve torrent downloads.

[Brian0730]

Actually I disagree and I'm sure other people will also decrypt console gaming does have alot of games and probably more than PC because they have their exclusives that won't be found on PC where most PC games that come out end up on consoles so in the end consoles come out on top

[Vegamyster]

"console gaming does have alot of games and probably more than PC because they have their exclusives that won't be found on PC"

Every platform has its fair share of exclusives whether they're AAA or Indie, in terms of sheer volume PC has a far bigger library available because its backwards compatible.

PS3: 786 http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

360: 1126 http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

PS4: 388 http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Xone: 301 http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Steam: Over 3700 http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Note the PS3/360 were from 2013 so its going to be a bit more.

[Lou Ferrigno]

Don't forget how many crappy games are on steam out of that 3700 games you mentioned.. I'm always on the look out for different games on steam and more than half of them have less-than-positive reviews (I.E thumbs down).. Especially with steams P2W/F2P saturation of games.. Also, hardly any games are actually PC optimized.. Just saying.
I love PC games, but just because steam has more games doesn't mean all of them are amazing or even close to that..same of course goes with consoles, but the number is marginally bigger on steam.

[MadLad]

"console gaming does have alot of games and probably more than PC because they have their exclusives that won't be found on PC where most PC games that come out end up on consoles so in the end consoles come out on top"

And if I responded with "that's nonsense" . . . what then?

[GamingTruth]

then your a delusional pc fan

[Rimeskeem]

Why not both?

[Unarmed_Civilian]

http://www.quickmeme.com/im...

[Imalwaysright]

"So Many Other Ways To Enjoy Games"

Besides the PC which is my preferred platform which other way to play games is better than the experience that consoles provide?

[DrJones]

I would place consoles second to PC. So what are all the other ways to enjoy games? On phones? No thank you.

[Neofire]

Nvidia wants console sales to plummet, it would benefit them more if people moved to mobile or PC. Its sad to see a company in the video game industry hoping choices dry up. When 100s of millions of people perfer to game that way.

[tee_bag242]

I think there is some truth in what you've said here. As I stated above.. its wishful thinking.

[srgssgtmatt]

Honest note.. AMD did well with the console market. Making money off those consoles, if you don't believe me look at their income statement. I dont like nvidia much, but with the 980 and 970 its pretty impressive

[Pandamobile]

All he means is that consoles no longer have the home-gaming monopoly. Back in the PS2 golden-era of console gaming, consoles were the only consumer device besides a computer that could play games.

Nowadays, the gaming market is 10x more diverse than it was 10 years ago. PC gaming is alive and flourishing, consoles are off to a good start, and everyone and their grandmothers can play thousands of games on devices they already have.

Mobile devices have lured away a lot of the super-casual console market, leaving consoles to their own devices in the core-gaming market. PC of course occupies a space between core and, I dunno, 'hard-core'? All in all, gaming as a whole is thriving everywhere, regardless of platform.

People will always play.

[ginsunuva]

Correction:
Golden Days of Games are Over. So many hardware options to enjoy nonexistent software because making games is too expensive these days and no one buys them.

[edqe]

Small form factor PCs like Intel NUC are already powerful enough to provide console experience for living rooms and of course ~$100 NVidia Maxwell (GTX 750 Ti) does that for any desktop PCs.

SteamOS is already most flexible gaming OS available although it will take years before it has enough games (and games with OpenGL 4.5 and NG support) to fully take off.

It has been nice to see that many genres are getting stronger and getting more attention again on PC; more complex games without hand-holding, games that are designed for PC from the very beginning. Of course hopefully console games are still going to be ported for PC (titles from Ubisoft and EA) - something for everyone.

PC is most versatile gaming platform.

[Born2Game83]

Not this shit again!

[ATi_Elite]

Golden Era of video Games was:

Neo Geo Genesis Snes Turbo GFX 16 Arcades PC and handheld.

What made this Era so Golden was that every platform ran off of exclusives. Wasn't many multiplats back then and Arcades offered unique cabinets and atmosphere very popular with gamers in a social setting.

Today multiplats rule and the PC has pretty much the same roster as xb1 and ps4 plus the PCS super vast exclusive catalogue and old games.

Consoles still have a place but the PCS Power flexibility and global dominance evident.

Oh by the way Nvidia sells 8 to 10 million Gpu every 3 months so there is big money and a huge Pc Gaming community.

[--bienio--]

Nvidia: PC is the largest platform, golden period of consoles over....good to hear this:) Pc is back to the throne:)

[Inzo]

LOL!

[MadLad]

Rising popularity of PC gaming says that, while not happening tomorrow, we very well may see PC becoming the dominant platform going forward.

Nothing happens overnight.

[starchild]

@SlapHappyJesus

Actually, the PC already is a bigger gaming platform than any single console. I guess you might mean "become dominant over all consoles combined".

@Ippiki Okami

No, that is not what the sales trends show. Gaming on mobile platforms is mostly its own market. But it has taken a certain number of casual gamers away from both consoles and PC.

PC is actually at the polar opposite end from mobile platforms, while consoles are somewhere in between.

[Ippiki Okami]

"Rising popularity of PC gaming says that, while not happening tomorrow, we very well may see PC becoming the dominant platform going forward."

I been hearing that for 10-15 years and its never happened. Mobile(tablets/laptops) will be taking over PC gaming moving forward. The sales trends right now prove that.

[DeusEx-Machina]

Right now, out of my 4 most awaited games, PC holds 3!

These are Star Citizen, Torment: Tides of Numenera, Pilars of Eternity and Xenoblade X on Wii-U.

Around end of next year, I'll be going to build a new machine with the sole focus to maximize Star Citizen in 4K. I will spare no expenses, I can tell you.

If the game would be released this year and powerful enough hardware would be available, I'd built it now.

I yet have to buy a PS4, but the library currently doesn't really contain something that interests me and that I can't get on PC. I'll buy one eventually, but most likely not very soon.

[Ark_]

Good choice of games there. I am looking forward to all of these as well.

Form me the WiiU is a perfect addition to my good old PC. Adds a lot of diversity to my gaming.
PS4 and Xbox1 need at least another year of exclusives to justify a purchase imo.

[s45gr32]

I strongly see Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo ditching the hardware side of consoles and offering Netflix like services. ..

[Max-Zorin]

Jen-Hsung could have easily been honest and said he wants console gaming would fail.

[Max-Zorin]

*to fail

[kws1065]

Because none of the consoles uses Nvidia GPU.

[MadLad]

Their rising sales and the fact they didn't take offers from either Microsoft or Sony when they came to them to handle this current generation of consoles tells me they don't quite care.

[Pandamobile]

Exactly. Why would Nvidia want to produce high-volume, low margin chips when they can pursue their own goals and dominate the high-end, high margin space that they've controlled for years.

[kws1065]

Well, I dont think Nvidia is saying this nonsense without care. While Nvidia only concentrates on the high-end PCs, talks about variety of enjoying games? Hmm...

[1nsomniac]

What Nvidia are choosing to ignore is that the the actual developers themselves are always going to prioritise consoles over everything else because that's where the biggest financial profits are. Nvidia PR department need to start biting their tongue as they'll be be biting the hand that feeds them.

They're obviously upset that no console went for them for their GPU but they can't blame anyone else for that as they refused to budge on pricing or offer an alternative.

[Seafort]

Nvidia are working with developers on PC games with Nvidia GameWorks.

It adds graphical effects to most games that isn't available on consoles and never will be.

You can say what you like about nvidia but they make great albeit expensive graphics cards and are the top graphics card makers without needing the consoles.

AMD chose console, nvidia chose PC gaming. It's seems nvidia are doing the best out of both of them :)

[1nsomniac]

No doubt Nvidia make the best cards but because of that they chose to be greedy when it came to the new consoles which is why they both went for AMD in the end although the PS4 was due to have an Nvidia GPU initially.

They have nothing currently going for them at all in the console market & the tablet market doing nothing for them either they're panicking & making stupid PR remarks about AMD & the end of consoles.

They know they have great products but they need to stop making themselves look stupid & arrogant as they're not even that far ahead.

[GamingTruth]

on the sony side that's a sony platform sony makes movies what do they need that pc anything has? nothing its already ahead pc has nothing ps4 needs

[xtheblackparade]

Lol what's with the console trolling campaign? Nvidia need sales? Consoles are the past, rule the present and probably will continue to dominate in the future but no one knows because we ain't no witches.

[Stapleface]

Not according to their rising stocks. They seem to be doing better than, well everyone in the gaming sector profit wise. So that's something I guess.

[its_JEFF]

They're doing better, not as good as a few years ago but better now.

Nvidia more than anyone else seems to be trying to get people away from consoles... probably because they're chips aren't in any of the new consoles. If Nvidia chips where in the new consoles they would be signing a different tune.

I don't think Nvidia realizes that some people just don't want to game on a PC. There is a whole generation of gamers that grew up on consoles, and they are comfortable with consoles.

[Stapleface]

I honestly believe that whole generation doesn't want to play on pc because they have zero clue as to what they are missing out on. Not lazyness, not stupidity, some fanboyism, but I don't even think it's that. It's just that they literally do not know what they are missing due to inexperience. Why on earth would a gamer want anything but a moddable GTA5? Your just limiting yourself. People say they want the whole experience for their money upfront. Well, your screwed when it comes to every game with mod support because your not going to get it.

[Ghost_Nappa]

Well damn. Here I was thinking I was enjoying my Xbox One just fine. Thanks for correcting me, Nvidia. (P.S. Well all know your just salty that AMD made a boatload off of the ps4/x1)

[PaulFiend]

Well, I like Nvidia, but this statement is not true, to say the least.

[leahcim]

nvidia = jealousy (in spanish)

lol

[AlphaBlackWolf96]

I feel like it's obvious that the PC hardware company is going to say consoles are dead - they don't want you to buy one.

[Saithraphim]

Are they still bitter or something over not getting the contract to supply the GPUs?

[DougLord]

Uhmmm.. PS4 says hello. Xone selling more then 360! High End console sales have never been stronger. Combined sales of 20mm is 1st the number of people that have high end video cards.

[windblowsagain]

Nvidia and their latest farcry trailer, trying to show you need an Nvidia card for god rays, hahhahahah. Comical.

Both AMD and NVIDIA produce excellent cards, but overpriced for highend Like most things.

Prices of games are comical, £50-60. Charge more for some digital versions. SP only games should be £30.

PC games are most likely cheaper, because you have to spend to play them at a decent setting, but that's upto you, also piracy is rampant.

Just wanted to put a few people straight about consoles vs PC's.

Consoles are low cost and last along time, produce a low amount of heat and noise. Were they as highend as PC'S now. You would need a much better cooling system, much higher PSU.

So when trying to compare, please compare the power/per ratio.

[Protagonist]

Agree.

PC games might be a bit cheaper due to not having to pay console licence, but in the end it is like Johnny Rotten said "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"

[starchild]

Nonsense. PC games are generally optimized quite well. You don't need a high end graphics card to play most games quite well. Some games are more demanding, but that's usually because they feature exclusive graphical features that aren't even available on the consoles.

All I did is upgrade my graphics card this generation to a GTX 770 and I've been playing better looking, better performing multiplatform games than my PS4 could provide. Every multiplat I have compared has looked and ran better on my PC, and my PC is not some super expensive rig either. You could probably build it for around $600.

[Coach_McGuirk]

they never said "you can't enjoy your console." Just that the golden days are over, which I agree with.

[tontontam0]

Translation:Our poor old days is over we are going to get rich, people are realizing the power of PC, We are going to milk them and make them buy our new hardware every year. We also manufacture processors for mobile devices people replace their phones and tablets every year because every year we release a faster and more power efficient hardware. We are getting so rich.

[Protagonist]

Paying three times the amount for a so-called decent "gaming-PC", compared to a hella nice console... yeah I dont think so.

A console got all the graphic card it needs, for me to have fun once in awhile and will last for at least 8 years.

Had my PS3 for almost 7 years and it still gets the newest games which plays and looks excellent. Next the PS4.

[Father__Merrin]

Nvidia is clearly butt-hurt

Microsoft/Sony choose wisely to ditch Nvidia GPU the performance/cost ratio is pathetic, il never buy Nvidia

[Pandamobile]

Lol, how misinformed you are.

[TheHunter81]

I would disagree. IMO the best time to game on a console is now. The golden age was ground breaking which contributed to its fun. Nvidia needs to accept that consoles aren't going away.

[ashcroft]

N4G is in Sony Defense mode. Nvidia is right, console sales don't matter if the games are terrible.

The golden era of gaming was from the SNES all the way to the PS2. It took a massive dive last gen and this gen doesn't seem to be any better.

Before you talk to me about being the first year, the second year doesn't look all that great, mostly multiplats anyways.

Whether you guys like it or not, the only true console sticking to ir's roots is Nintendo.

The WiiU is getting crapped on because they lack third party support.

They've always been about first party since the n64. PC gaming has been doing great and is getting better and better every year. Of course people will disagree because it's n4g and the love for Sony is way over the top.

I don't even know why I bought a launch PS4...maybe on impulse? PC+ Wii U is doing it for me.

The games I really want or have are multiplat

Dragon age inquisition? PC
Shadow of Mordor? PC
GTA V Remaster? PC

The only exclusive remaster worth the buy is TLOU even then a PS3 game alone isn't enough for someone to get a $400 console.

PC may be expensive at first, but it makes up for it with Free online and a lot of sales, especially from Steam, Food for thought.

[2pacalypsenow]

So I guess sony is the only company making consoles? Since you mention sony defense mode .

He means all consoles
ps4
xbox one
wii u

[ashcroft]

That's because the Wii u is not on the same playing field as Microsoft and Sony.

Nvidia doesn't take Nintendo into consideration like most of the media. When people think next-gen or on this case current gen, they think of the X1 and PS4.

Nvidia is right, no matter how you want to look at it.

[kevnb]

its all marketing, the console makers say the same thing about pc gaming and downplay mobile gaming.

[kevnb]

I actually think this gen is the first where im ready to give up pc gaming, last gen wasnt quite there yet for me. Im going to keep my pc for any exclusives that come out and all the previous generation games, but most new games are going to be played on my ps4... sorry nvidia but im not upgrading again.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

upgrading again? If you know anything about pc gaming it's that you usually don't upgrade all the time. Most people upgrade out of passion but a 10 year old gpu is still outclasses what the ps4/x1 have.

[kevnb]

there are better gpus, but not 10 years old. ps4 has something similar to a beefed up 7850.

[MonkeyOne]

The writing is on the wall for consoles.

Microsoft and Sony still haven't figured out how to make their respective console divisions profitable since the PS2 era ended.

[Nikolas26]

All the multiplats are for pc only, now if u live in a cave and the word "task manager" sound's alien just stay to console. Like every gen when decent exclusives uncharted,gow,halo,gears, come we can enjoy them so till the time comes pc is the best option if u need visual fidelity with no restrictions. Hf.

[2pacalypsenow]

Yet most developers still cater and prefer consoles cuz that's where the money is .

Eat it

[Coach_McGuirk]

that's exactly why the golden days of console are behind us

[mochachino]

Nvidea is such a troll.

I'll make sure to do my best to avoid products with their hardware. There's no need for them to troll the console market so much.

[craig2web]

Although consoles are still popular at the moment, I agree with their position. Even though I did recently acquire a PS4 and am looking forward to picking up The Crew, Project Cars and GT7, I spend at least as much time gaming on my tablets now. And once a decent Android or iOS gaming set-top box debuts, I'll be getting one. The whole tech area is changing rapidly. My last Windows PC (which I bought 7 years ago for $600) died recently, and instead of going the Windows route again, I bought a Chromebox for less than $140.

[blakstarz]

I think they are still salty from MS and Sony not using them in their latest hardware. They have been on a console bashing ever since.

[kevnb]

ya they went with amd who were willing to provide hardware at razor thin profit margin.

[Nilla_Nate]

They're saying this because AMD got the contracts for the chips in the PS4, Wii U and XB1 and they're butthurt.

[MrGEE]

from a company who made worst console ever

[Pandamobile]

PS3?

[InTheZoneAC]

not sure if serious troll or pretend troll...

[Pandamobile]

More like a cheeky response to a stupid comment.

The last console that Nvidia was involved with was the PS3.

[WickedLester]

I see NVidia is still butthurt over losing console contracts to AMD.

[LightDiego]

Why Nvidia always attacks consoles, lol, for gamers it's great that all the industry is growing, we need options, then we need both.
Mind your own business.

[kevnb]

to be fair it works, best way to get PC gamers to be passionate.

[lfc_4eva]

Consoles aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

However I've spoken with loads of people over recent months who are going back to pc gaming.
I like many others, started out playing games on home computers. I only moved over to consoles around the time of the DC. I have loved the simplicity of gaming on a console. Shove a disc in and its game away my man. But now that pc gaming is more simple than ever, I don't find that consoles have that edge anymore. Hardware and software compatability issues are almost non-existent now. Drivers are generally more mature than they'v ever been. And using steam and origin couldn't be easier.
Top this all off with the fact that pc gaming has the best hardware and I'm moving back for a long stint. And like I said, so are many others who I've talked to.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Actually I think they have a point. With how the console market goes most earning are cannibalized by retailers, and development. I mean gpus are needed outside of gaming too. Once consoles cost more to have around than don't, they'll start dying out very quickly. Not because of consumers, but because of developers and retailers who are slowing forcing out console manufacturers.

[darkvenom]

Umm no, I will continue buying gaming consoles as long as they're around.

[InTheZoneAC]

why does nvidia keep going out of their way to make statements like this?

no matter how much money you can throw at any pc, it'll never give me MY FAVORITE games.

but keep trying, no one is listening...

[Pandamobile]

Just because your favourite games aren't on PC, doesn't make Nvidia's statement any less true. Gone are the days of homogeneous home gaming platforms. There's a million different ways to enjoy games in 2014 and beyond. Consoles will obviously have their core audience of people like you, but many people don't want to fork over $400 for a gaming machine.

People have phones and tablets that can play games. People have computers for work and media that can easily double as their gaming machine.

Heterogeneous gaming platforms are the way of the future, so regardless of your opinion, the golden days of consoles are very much over.

[InTheZoneAC]

so you believe many people would prefer to game on a phone or tablet, at the house, over a console?

that would also be saying pc gaming is dead...

casual people that whine about a $400 gaming console are not spending $1000+ on a pc to play their games and don't talk about custom built pcs because they're not even doing that either.

but hey, it doesn't matter what I think or how all the best exclusives are only on playstation, the casuals will play their fad of the day and move on later.

why even have games on pc or game systems? just release a new casual game every day so you can think you're more relevant than the next person.

[Pandamobile]

I think you missed the point.

"so you believe many people would prefer to game on a phone or tablet, at the house, over a console?"

Yes, a startling number of people play games exclusively on their mobile devices. Mostly because they have them with them everywhere they go, and mostly because they don't care enough to go out and buy a $400 machine that's sole function is to play games.

"that would also be saying pc gaming is dead... "

Well, it isn't. It's not even close.

"casual people that whine about a $400 gaming console are not spending $1000+ on a pc to play their games and don't talk about custom built pcs because they're not even doing that either. "

These are not the same people. The gaming market is humongous. Consoles used to be the domain of the casual and core gamers. Since tablets and mobile devices took root, they've cannibalized a good chunk of the console market. That's a market that consoles aren't going to have ever again.

PC gaming exists largely in its own vacuous space. Casual PC gamers aren't going out and spending hundreds of dollars on PC upgrades to play AAA games, they're playing social games and other easy-to-run games that don't require special hardware besides their personal laptops or desktops.

The core PC gaming market is what exists in direct competition with consoles. Steam is 100,000,000 users strong right now, and that's one piece of the PC gaming pie. Korean MMOs and other Asian-market games fly under Westerner's radar, but make up a huge chunk of the overall picture. These are the people that buy PC hardware and spend money playing PC games.

[Maxor]

Nvidia cards are selling like hotcakes and the profit margins on those are freaking huge.

[hamzilla]

PC will always have the BEST MMO, RTS, MOBA games. other then that its all about the console. PC used to be the place for FPS shooters but thanks to the success of Halo and CoD on console FPS has moved to console now for the best. if PC was so good then why doesnt EA make Madden, NHL and PGA games on it anymore? and until companies like Sony or Nintendo reach out to PC there will always be consoles for gaming.
I own PS4 and a SLI GTX 780 gaming PC and play my PS4 now more then I do things on my PC.. and I have played Watch Dogs on both and I liked it better on PS4... doesnt look THAT MUCH worse then PC not like PC to PS3. so for GTA5 im also getting that on PS4. As for X1 I hope Halo MCC does very good on it. if I had more money I would get X1 just for that collection.

[cyclindk]

I'd like to get back into PC gaming more, unfortunately most of my beloved franchises/genres have either died off or been watered down...

And newer games with promising attributes are getting "missed" by the big AAA publishers in favor of repetitive sequels.

Sure there are tons upon tons of BS indie games, most of which lack any sort of longevity, but I hope this changes on all fronts.

[tekksin]

why is he so butthurt they didn't use him to make the chips?!? omg, its so infuriating. Get over it, @$$h0le.

[MonkeyOne]

The future is multiplatform.

Kids will have a gaming PC, a console (or two). A smartphone, a tablet, a VR headset, a laptop ...

Sony and Microsoft are massive companies that can incur years of bad, money-losing quarters.

But how long can that continue?

This is the real issue.

[Flames76]

Haha Nvidia still butthurt i see over XOne and ps4 going with the best AMD of course.Nvidia you sound so pathetic with all your crying just stop.Do you want someone to pay attention to you or you want a cookie?

[fourthpersonview]

Still bitter they got dumped by Sony...