Hardcore Gamer: The moments of awe that the first-person mode demonstrate (like the flying segments) are constantly overshadowed by an obstructive statement.
I think it's the beginning of all future GTA games moving towards being first-person. And why not? With the graphics possible nowadays, you get a much better appreciation for the world they've built.
It might be the saving grace of the multiplayer-mode. You can enjoy GTA in the old-fashioned 3rd-person view when you play the single-player mode, but when you go MP, perhaps it would play like Battlefield, first-person, and obviously with all the freedom you're used to from GTA and Battlefield.
If they can get those 1st person controls right, so they will feel as good as Battlefield and other 1st person shooters, they would have something really REALLY special.
I definitely agree. Multiplayer is the first thing I thought of. GTA is usually a game I just get on and goof around on, but 1st person playlists could make it competitive...
With Rockstar's talent, this could very well take off on the next GTA release.
Yeah I agree, this FPS mode is gonna be as useless to me as my ex-wife.... Plus, do we really need another FPS game?? this makes GTAV look like a common game amongst the rest now. But since I know this mode is optional and have yet to play this, I'll definitely be picking it up.
"this makes GTAV look like a common game amongst the rest now"
No it makes GTAV both the most detailed open world FPS and the most detailed open world TPS at the same time. There's nothing common about that.
I've said before that I wouldn't buy GTA5 again, at least not right away, but the more I think about roaming the world in first person mode the more I want it. The key, as Yi-Long said, is how the controls feel. The previews I've seen say it feels great, but previews have been known to lie so I'm torn.
The thing is anyone in third person has a clear advantage with the camera being controllable. You can also shoot behind you while driving easier. So i doubt anyone looking to be good at multiplayer would play in FPS mode.
I think that FPS mode adds a whole new dimension to this game. Personally, I think it will make the game world have a larger feel to it, and because of the fact that the camera will be zoomed into the player, you will notice greater detail with weapons, vehicles, buildings, foliage, and textures.
On top of all of that, I love games like Battlefield, Payday and Far Cry, and GTAV has all of the elements from these games and more. This is truly an FPS fan's dream come true.
Apparently you can customize your first person controls, so when you switch from 3rd to 1st. Your controls will switch from GTA style to COD style. Left stick in to run, R1 to throw a grenade.
Nah, 3rd person view is better cause in real life you can see more by simply moving your neck, 1st person doesn't currently allow for this factor which removes a large part of strategy. Maybe when VR comes in then it'll get done properly.
Increase the FOV. That solves your problem, though everything on the side seems scrunched, which is even more realistic since it's sort of like your distorted peripheral vision.
And 3rd person view gives you far more than a 180 degree view.
I sure hope not, I would hate being forced to use it. I certainly plan on using 1st person now and then but for the most part I will be using 3rd person view.
No need for a discussion IMHO. Just make it an option. Problem solved. I personally prefer driving in cockpit mode and shooting in first person. But flying, sight seeing, walking/running I prefer 3rd. Also it's nothing new for gta. Ever since gta3 there has been a first person option through mods. As I've played them all on pc it's like standard to have it for me.
I hope not Mr. Kilmer, i prefer the third-person view, we already have a lot of first-person games. If it's just a plus and you can switch between them, it's fine.
I like the new addition of a first person mode, but I'm almost 100% sure that Rockstar wouldn't risk their baby to give us only first person GTA games from here on out. If anything it will make sure that Activision steps up their game with COD to make sure the FPS "crown" stays in their hands.
3rd person is better for a game with GTA's mechanics. Traversal, hand to hand, and generally open world stuff is usually better in third person. Far Cry is the only open world first person game that really makes it work and even then the traversal would be better in third. Skyrim just avoids the traditional pitfalls altogether but RPGs are a lot different than shooters of course.
Not really sure why the disagrees. I think its clear he means as an option and not ONLY.
GTA has always been known as a progressive series. (besides that nasty forgettable GTAIV which isn't really a their fault as they where dealing with DVD limitations)
The author seems to be misinformed. He goes on about how GTA isn't built for first person and how fan made mods have show us this. The difference is, and many previews confirmed this. Rockstar didn't just put the camera inside the players head and said have fun (like the fan made mod he's referring to). Instead, the game has been (in a sense) rebuilt for the first person view. They've done this by adding 3,000+ new animations, highly customization options for the view, and seamless transition between first and third.
So yes. A game like GTA which has never been first person, getting a first person mode that's not just tacked on is a game changer. Not to mention Rockstar is always one of the first devs to bring new things to the table, and while first person view isn't something revolutionary. Having said view built for a game of this size is definitely going to change how it's played. So no, it's not pointless at all. In fact, it could change the franchise forever depending on how well it's received. Which gives Rockstar even more possibilities for GTA VI.
I was going to read the article but your comment suggests the author has not played the new version and is relying on past experiences. If so, then it's poor journalism yet again within the game industry. As you rightly point out many other journalists who have previewed the mode have actually played it and have been suitability impressed.
Just read it and as I thought he hasn't played it, seems a rant about nothing, more space wasted on the Internet..
3000 new animations? That's news to me and I'm looking forward to getting this on my PS4. I don't understand your argument at all. Extra animations would be great but if they are there it won't be because of a limited first person perspective. They probably did add more motions but to enhance the game as a whole. FPS mode doesn't require any additional animation. If you did add extra animation just to this one perspective it would make the game very awkward. It makes absolutely no sense to have different motions for people playing in different perspectives.
Putting a first person mode in a third person game needs entirely new animations. In this case, more than 3,000 new animations to make the first-person mode playable, clear, and smooth. If you don't add new animations it will be very awkward to play.
Fan mods where they moved the camera down into first person in GTA barely work. Running is okay, aiming is okay once you are pointing the right direction- but turning, driving, getting in and out of vehicles, climbing, generally moving around- NONE of it feels right. Because the character's body is moving as if you control it in 360 degrees of movement. In FPS you move by strafing and turning separately, not turning in 360 degrees ala third person.
Rockstar knew this, and they've designed thousands of new animations to make the perspective look right, to make movement and transitions right- they basically had to DOUBLE the amount of player-animations in the game. Every move the characters make in GTAV had to be redone as if you were looking from their eyes.
Third-person does not take into account what you need to see or how you need to move in first person. This problem has been seen in many situations where people force FPS on non-FPS games. It wont work right.
All the players hand animations had to be added. Every gun now has its own individual reload/secondary fire animations, all interactions between the players hands and any world objects have had to receive new animations..
@AmRyder Perhaps these fan mods aren't professionals at where to place the camera. Unless your game sucks though... all animations should already be there.
If we were playing online and I was next to you... I should be seeing the same exact motions from your character. It would be a weird if we both saw slightly different animations. Your characters body should behave the same no matter how it is seen to all watching.
Strafing isn't magic new movement only possible with a limited field of view. Part of what makes Uncharted fun is the strafing when you run and gun.
I have to agree with you on this, especially after watching that ign video of them talking about Rockstar rebuilding the game to fit First Person View. Guys just imagine online in First Person View with 30 players online in Free Roam? If the online launch is better than what they did back then with the PS3 version, then we are in for a game changer this fall. Out of all the remastered games this year, The Master Chief Collection still looks to be the best one this fall, with GTA 5 as runnerup, The Last of Us in 3rd place, and Sleeping Dogs in 4th place.
Guys and gals just remember all those heist missions you did on the PS3, it will look twice as good on X1/PS4/PC. We will also get a proper launch for the Heist mode in multiplayer all in first and third person! This author needs to check himself and acknowledge this.
I'd rather play in FP if I have the option. Who is this guy to say what we like or not? Guess what it's optional you don't like it don't use it. I'm sure there are guns and cars in the game you like and don't like but guess what you don't have to use them because it's not forced on you.
Exactly...options are a great thing. Why someone would complain about a completely optional mode is bizarre to me. Then again, it's the internet. Why wait to actually try the new mode before writing it off...something's changed, quick, complain!
That was a lot of complaining about something that only exists if you push a button... "GTA V’s first-person mode is a pointless addition that does more to shamelessly lure in FPS fans than deliver any substantial inclusions to what Grand Theft Auto is about." Maybe this guy gets pwned in FPS and is upset that it can be forced in online, haha. I'll try all modes to see what I like best. FPS mode brings me closer to the action, it makes sense to play in such a rich world in the same perspective as you do IRL. I'm glad they give us the option to make the game more "real."
There's never ending construction and bad traffic around here so I'll enjoy violently clearing a path in GTA in FP :).
After reading and taking a second to think of what point he was making its clear.
it still looks fukin awesome and even if they don't do the Fp perspective in the next one it'll be OK cause out of all the games. At least they said "fuck it" and did it for shits and grins once
I disagree! First Person will be awesome especially when you play online. Imagine all the possibilities you can do online in First Person mode! Will add more replayability to the game
I agree completely, to some its a gimmick, to others the best thing to happen to GTA since they moved from the top-down view. You can switch views at any time or can complete the game in its entirety in either view so you'd think everyone would be happy right?.....right?
To be fair though, I think the biggest noise is coming from those who already bought the game last gen and are debating whether another purchase is justified or not.
I'm glad I took the gamble and had the patience to wait for the PS4 version, 1st person, 1080p, its all gravy to me now.
Rockstar didn't "cave in" as suggested. They always have a long term strategy, and based on all, the work that has gone into this I believe this was the plan from the beginning
Journalism clickbait 101: 1: find argument that is totally against the status quo. 2: print and duck for cover 3: watch the ad revenue roll in. 4: watch you credibility float away on the breeze.
Literally every time something big is announced that gets a lot of people excited I see an article on the hottest articles in N4G saying that whatever it is it's bad and shouldn't exist.
This, Project Morpheus, etc. Along with bashing recent titles that have received overwhelmingly positive scores. The Last of Us, GTA V last gen, even Metal Gear Solid 4 when it launched. It's getting kind of repetitive
First Person mode was never used as a selling point by Rockstar as stated in this garbage article. It's just one of many improvements made to a game that crushes 90% of games on the market with what it offers out of the box. Leave it to complainers/pessimists to highlight the new additions and how they suck, real gamers will buy this day one just like they did a nearly a year ago. It's well worth the money, Rockstar is an amazing developer.
I believe this will add a huge amount of depth. If you've played and enjoyed any of these games, you'll most likely at one point or another just stood there and marveled at the environment or just went for a drive to see what's going on. I have actually said "I wish this was in First person" many times. The driving, the shooting, everything can be made to feel much more immersive in this mode. I honestly feel this alone is worth a re-purchase, never mind all of the other improvements. I was buying it again anyway for the addition of more traffic/people and draw distances etc. This is just icing on the cake for me. It basically blows doors off of most other games just for the sheer amount of content and detail they always include. It's kind of like trying to hate on Skyrim and compare it to Dragon Age. You can argue, but in the end they really created something far more reaching than most anything else. My 2 cents! Enjoy!
I think it's the beginning of all future GTA games moving towards being first-person. And why not? With the graphics possible nowadays, you get a much better appreciation for the world they've built.
The author seems to be misinformed. He goes on about how GTA isn't built for first person and how fan made mods have show us this. The difference is, and many previews confirmed this. Rockstar didn't just put the camera inside the players head and said have fun (like the fan made mod he's referring to). Instead, the game has been (in a sense) rebuilt for the first person view. They've done this by adding 3,000+ new animations, highly customization options for the view, and seamless transition between first and third.
So yes. A game like GTA which has never been first person, getting a first person mode that's not just tacked on is a game changer. Not to mention Rockstar is always one of the first devs to bring new things to the table, and while first person view isn't something revolutionary. Having said view built for a game of this size is definitely going to change how it's played. So no, it's not pointless at all. In fact, it could change the franchise forever depending on how well it's received. Which gives Rockstar even more possibilities for GTA VI.
I'd rather play in FP if I have the option. Who is this guy to say what we like or not? Guess what it's optional you don't like it don't use it. I'm sure there are guns and cars in the game you like and don't like but guess what you don't have to use them because it's not forced on you.
That was a lot of complaining about something that only exists if you push a button...
"GTA V’s first-person mode is a pointless addition that does more to shamelessly lure in FPS fans than deliver any substantial inclusions to what Grand Theft Auto is about." Maybe this guy gets pwned in FPS and is upset that it can be forced in online, haha. I'll try all modes to see what I like best. FPS mode brings me closer to the action, it makes sense to play in such a rich world in the same perspective as you do IRL. I'm glad they give us the option to make the game more "real."
There's never ending construction and bad traffic around here so I'll enjoy violently clearing a path in GTA in FP :).
Wonder if you will be able to switch between first and third person with a press on a button. Really liked that in Fallout 3 and Skyrim.