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Take my money, but keep your "free" games. And fix DriveClub

GameOnDaily's Asa W offers his thoughts on what should happen with PS Plus and Live.

"I want to pay more. Or lose the games. Split out the “Service” and the “free stuff” into 2 subscriptions. Whatever it takes to get the service side of the offering back up to a satisfactory standard. "

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Volkama3456d ago (Edited 3456d ago )

Feels like they've both backed themselves into a corner a bit now. Spreading the subscription money too thinly, but there isn't really an easy way out without facing some severe backlash.

Sony probably could/should have released a bit of a belter this month even if only to draw attention away from DriveClub's on-going server problems.

Gazondaily3456d ago

"Sony probably could/should have released a bit of a belter this month even if only to draw attention away from DriveClub's on-going server problems."

Yeah agreed. In fact, I thought that's what they would have done. The DC fiasco really is a complete mess but should Sony have to deal with Evo's incompetence here? Its a tricky situation to be in.

Also, its quite telling how, as soon as Plus became mandatory, the offerings just took a nosedive in quality compared to before. I mean, forget PS4 games, what about the PS3 ones?

Games with Gold is just another measure by MS to play catch up and whilst they could have capitalised on it with stronger offerings, they seem to be content with doing the minimum.

PS Plus still has Games with Gold beat hands down though but I agree, the latest offerings are a far cry from the kind of games we would normally expect.

Volkama3456d ago

Well Evolution are a first party studio, and Driveclub is Sony's game. So yeah, Sony pretty much should have to deal with it...

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mikeslemonade3455d ago

It's a racing game, meh. Learn to like other genres and maybe you won't be whining about the non-release of Driveclub.

donthate3455d ago (Edited 3455d ago )

I think you highlighted very much the difference in the services between Xbox Live Gold and PS+.

PS+ is a "free rental game service with online play on the side", whereas Xbox Live Gold is a "social online network with free (rental) games service on the side".

I put paren around rental, because on Xbox 360, the games are yours to keep, but on Xbox One, they follow the PS+ model.

Essentially they are similar services, but they focus on opposite end of the spectrum. MS spends their money on your overall experience, whereas Sony wants to sell you on value.

Ironically from a console stand point though, the Xbox One right now provides better value due to the promotions and quality free and bundled games.

"Games with Gold is just another measure by MS to play catch up and whilst they could have capitalised on it with stronger offerings, they seem to be content with doing the minimum."

I think MS is comfortable where they are with the games they offer.

PS, Septic the video you guys yelling over each other and too "excited" makes for a slightly stressful video to listen and watch. I cut it short.

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fei-hung3455d ago

You are right with Sony giving something good to make up for Driveclub, but I've worked in complaints for a few big companies. They never give anything to compensate until the problem is fixed. The reason for that is they may end up giving too much or too little.

Secondly, we found out this year that Sony and MS have to pay for the free ps+ games. With EA having released their own service and Sony having to pay to release free content on 3 devices, it can't be easy. Maybe they should consider dropping support on the ps3 and just focus on current gen.

Also, I think November and December will hold some surprises. I can see Knack being given away along with Killzone MP. I hope they give the Killzone Mp. Traded the game in but I miss the mp a lot.

IWentBrokeForGaming3456d ago

I know a lot of my non stuck up Xbox friends are pretty jealous of all the games I have for plus across my PS3 & PS4

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Yetter3456d ago

I feel like there is a bit of confusion around what you are actually paying for with PS+. It was sold originally as a discounted game service, soon after we started getting free games with the subscription. When they make it mandatory for online gaming you only assume that they would be using that subscription to improve their online services but if they aren't raising the actual price of PS+ then something has got to give, either the quality or quantity of the free/discounted games or the actual quality of the online infrastructure, am I wrong?

Brettman20083456d ago (Edited 3456d ago )

The amount of money Sony gets from PS+ must be far in excess of what it costs for the PS+ game offerings. So, Sony 'should' be pumping a lot of money into online infrastructure. I do think there is no excuses for Sony now re online issues. In saying that, I think Sony has been a bit caught out by the huge PS4 sales putting a strain on its network. I also think Sony is in cost saving mode which is limiting their ability to invest appropriately.

DualWielding3455d ago

I don't care about online infrastructure I want my quality games back.... I think the best would be to split the services so people who want games can pay for games and people who want online can pay for online, it would screw those who want both but its the only way we are going to get our awesome PS+ game offerings back....

franwex3456d ago

Earlier this year I happily subscribed to both services. Now to non. I did not renew my subscriptions and have not looked back. They were such good services too-specially PSN. Oh well. If they get better again I will reconsider.

JimmyDM903456d ago (Edited 3456d ago )

My guess is that during the next couple of years (in order to prevent spreading the subscription money so thin) XBOX and Sony will pare down the number of games they're offering to 360, vita and PS3 until they stop servicing last gen consoles all together.

Spenok3455d ago

That's not going to happen. Especially with Sony already committing to giving out 2 free games per console. They will continue this trend until they stop supporting the PS3, and either give more to the other two, or better for the other two. Though it will likely focus on PS4 when that happens.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv7296d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut8596d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio96d ago (Edited 96d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack96d ago (Edited 96d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander197296d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff218395d ago (Edited 95d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim96d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno96d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff218395d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger96d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai96d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC96d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.

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20 Best PS4 Racing Games You Should Play

Cultured Vultures: We won't stop until everyone appreciates how brilliant Driveclub is/was.

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Terry_B1197d ago

Are there even more than 20?

purple1011196d ago

i went to the article and theres only a couple racing games, cant find the button to move page on through all the adverts.

purple1011196d ago

ah its changed to a video now, strange, but il take it

Dfooster1195d ago

Dirt rally doesn't even make the list? Errm OK then.

Driveclub is over rated as well, with middle of the road handling and the 30fps killed it upon arrival for me.