A person at Destructoid finally played The Order: 1886, Ready at Dawn's upcoming PS4, monster-filled, alternate-London-history third-person shooter here at Paris Games Week.
well when you have the game director stating they're putting story first and its unfortunate that this is a game. i'd sure hope so lol.
Yeah. The gameplay demo was disappointing to say the least but I figured hey, at least the multiplayer might be decent? But nope, singleplayer-only game. These developers who are obsessed with wanting to create something cinematic should leave the games industry and go to Hollywood instead.
Yay, more hate on a demo that was released last February. It sucks but I already know reviewers have already decided they're going to hate the game.
*Tom* Just like you seem to already love the game. Ill wait and see, but I know I wont get it till price drop. $60 for a game that is single player only and lacks in gameplay, no way.
Every gaming site that has a preview of The Order is based on that February demo. And nothing new since then. Can't believe on what bull**** members of N4G falling.
@tom What have they shown that looks so good, you're willing to defend the game against any criticism. Every thing shown so far aside from graphics has been mediocre. Add that to the insta death QTEs and this focus on cinematics and I'm guessing this game will be sitting at a 60 metascore in the bargain bin while we are all playing Bloodborne and laughing about how we almost got duped into buying trash.
X1 excusive Quantum break has qte..., cover shooting......story drivin ....not so smart ai....in a incomplete demo...Awsomeeeeeeee!!!! Ps4 1886 has qte......cover shooting....story drivin...not so smart ai.... in an incomplete demo ....boooooooooooo genericcccc!!!! Smh fanny troll logic . 1886 will appeal to many....same goes for qb. Both look awesome and non generic. Its like saying uncharted is generic because its the same genre as tomb raider...or Alan wake was a generic silent hill.....and so on. Smh Just enjoy gaming
Well said kingthrash+ To be fair, that type of behaviour isn't exclusive to one entity but your micro descriptive is apt. Laud what you have and lambast what you don't.
King let me put things into prospective Infamous has free running, super powers, RPG elements, is in 3rd person, and a open world game. Awesome Prototype has free running, super powers, RPG elements, is in 3rd person, and a open world game. Boring I'm nit saying this game is going to suck or be boring like prototype but sometimes its easy to see from gameplay videoes that the game is lacking something in gameplay. Game -->play. How the game plays. And the looks of it it looks boring. You notice its more doubt with this game than heavy rain ever got before it launched . Before heavy rain only criticism was they did want to play that type of game. By people constantly defending when its easy to see there's something lacking will only hurt the devs. I think its the pacing that's off and ai . I don't even get you last example all those games are great. And you can't same the game is the same or would be the same because the have the same amount of gameplay elements. By your logic cod and halo is just alike because they both are fps and the both don't have a cover mechanic . It's starting to seem like people are blindly defending this game without any basis . Everybody saying it looks boring but ill wait and see but yall say its going to be great . Even the devs haven't proved themselves they handled popular franchise for a handheld. They didn't have to create backstory or lore, gameplay elements, or the main character, or the pace of how the game is. The creators did that. so its best we criticize or they gonna shoot themselves in the foot.
King always trolling, this article is not about QB it is about how the Order is failing to live up to its promises. QB looks way more engaging and varied and I trust Remedy alot more than a company that made a GoW game for handheld.
↑↑↑ I don't think you know what trolling is. I said nothing.....not one negative word about qb.....but you just proved my point with your troll post. Your too busy judging INCOMPLETE DEMOS ...."looks waàaay more engaging and varied"....lol that logic. That's what you got from watching a 10 minute demo??? My god... As I said both look awesome both will appeal to people and most importantly both are incomplete. In reality we know nothing about these story driving games...its impossible to know if they engaging or varied....for all you know both games can be 5 hrs long and control like the first resident evil games. Could be extremely easy and have stupid and repetitive enemy's that walk off cliffs . Or even worse....break the first rule of story driven games ...have a terrible boring story that makes no sense. Smh I hope none of that happens to these games....because I love gaming and these games look awesome....but I won't let a demo sway me into guessing a games gunna be good or bad. So I say the both look awesome...both look fun...but varied? Engaging? That's impossible to know at this point.
King...ignore motha fudders......say it with me How anything can fail to live up to hype when it hasn't been released is only logical in an illogical fanboy mind. Both look interesting. ....thats all any of us can say with the little we've seen. Let them project....its pretty much all those types have left.
I surely didn't enjoy The Last of Us for it's multi-player, not because it's bad, I was just interested in the Single Player Campaign. It's blatantly obvious the media bias anti-sony is still going on this gen as it did on last gen. Had Sunset Overdrive been a PS4 exclusive, it would have scored around 7/10, not 8 or 9. As far I know, Sunset Overdrive doesn't have a multi-player VS either, yet the games graphics are undoubtedly not on par with what The Order 1886 offers nor GTA 5 Remaster, it's getting praised for the exact same reason The Order 1886 is being hated. -Never before seen, whacky weapons. In SSO, they're "OMG, what does this do? Wow it's fun" The Order 1886 they're "OMG, how do I use this weapon, I have to use 2 triggers to shoot? I'm wayyyy too lazy to pull that off" Or when Ryse came up. Everyone on Xbox were amazed at the graphics. They're all, everyone must play this game. Now that an equally impressive game comes out they are like "Nah, graphics don't matter, resolution don't matter." If graphics really aren't your thing, why did you bother with the current gen anyway? "I don't know, I can't remember why I bough an Next gen console again....." Bias hypocrites till the very end. Credit should be given just on the effort of the graphics alone. If we don't buy games with great graphics, we'll get flooded with cheap Android-like game riddled in micro-transaction.. Is that really the future you want gaming to be? We should buy those Ryse Son of Rome. I think a lot of people have been overly harsh for the game... and I've been swayed to believe the low score, but after this year scores? Scores became irrelevant to me, I've seen 8s and 9s given to Hyrule Warriors and I am second guessing if those low scores were justified on Ryse and probably weren't. Stupid fanboy wars, probably would have never ignited had Microsoft never started those DRM policies. Those were Xbox owners mad at Microsoft, PlayStation folks were "Meh, whatever".
"But I was kind of bored playing the game" @cernaML :D yup I sure did
Nice stealth edit(s).
Before you jump to conclusions, this is the same boring demo. The final game will be better.
"The final game will be better." And you know this how? BTW, I hope you're right. I only want good games.
I should have said, better than what was shown. They showed very little of The Order 1886. I don't know but I'm hoping.
So did Driveclub, everyone thought that game would be good as well, but i don't like interactive movies much
Dont know what your problem is Driveclub is amazing
Driveclub is fine but it's far from amazing.
When it's working like it's supposed to, yes Driveclub is a lot of fun. However "amazing" is a word I'd reserve for games like The Last of Us. Once online is completely fixed and dynamic weather, photo mode, replay mode, etc are added then MAYBE it can be considered amazing.
Yeah, so far it is only people who don't own the game who dislike DC, or those who played it and saw a quick opportunity to get refunds. Those who actually like arcade racers love the game off and see it far from being anything mediocre. People love to hate. That's a fact in this day and age.
Negative. You just made that up.
Yeah Driveclub is the bomb. Please no hating.
comparing drive club to other racing games out there just makes DC meh, its just a barebones racing game, it has nothing special that makes me love it as a racing game.
Yeah.... Don't play games then... Go play your Fps which is basically run, shoot and die through out the entire game.. Devs are trying to emerge players into the story, making it an entirely different experience.. and all you can think of is, run shoot and kill..
Driveclub is a very good game it would be amazing if the online actually worked. Seems it was reviewed on what it was not instead of what it is.
Oh please, it IS a broken game and has been since launch. Therefore, they have reviewed it for what it is. If they were to review it for what its not they'd have reviewed the imaginary online component and inflated the scores. Yes, I know they're fixing it and its better than it was, but let's not kid ourselves here and cry conspiracy every time a PlayStation game doesn't get full marks for obvious issues.
@light obviously you read my statement and missed the entire point. I stated that the online is and has been broken from day 1 but that is not why they reviewed the game poorly. It was docked by MANY sites for not being open world and for simply being a racing game. It's odd how a racing game being a racing game isn't enough depending on the name of the game.
This game really isn't on my radar at all, but if it turns out to be good, I'll consider it. I emphasize "consider". Now that everyone knows the general consensus of how the press feels, I recommend you all keep your expectations low and be pleasantly surprised if it's fantastic. As as new IP, it doesn't have a following so disappointment won't hit nearly as hard as an established franchise would. If it's bad, well, life goes on. If it's good, go for it. Though I can't say it enough, try not to let reviews be the only indication of a game's quality. If it varies wildly, expect it to be hit or miss. You might love it and your friends hate it. You know how it all works.
Well put, I got a similar approach
So much Hate for The Order. Next Gen mentality: Beautiful game = Boring gameplay. People need, we need to see more before concluding
Providing an honest opinion that you don't like = hating Yeah man, whatever floats your boat. The fact that the stark majority of The Order's initial impressions range from generic to mediocre is all one giant conspiracy by the most popular gaming sites Everyone has just agreed to make this game the most heavily criticized AAA PS4 exclusive simply because they "hate" it /s
"Everyone has just agreed to make this game the most heavily criticized AAA PS4 exclusive" Isn't that what #GamerGate was about? These journalists don't even mention anymore that they were playing an old build, I don't trust any of these gaming websites anymore and will form my own opinion once the game is released.
I thought Gamer Gate was about journalists promoting games for favours, not demoting and "hating" games because... ??? You don't get to hide behind gamer gate whenever any "journalist" says something you don't like. Destructoid is a gaming blog, not a journalistic entity. They've said so themselves.
Actually many people have stated that the order plays well its just a very vocal group berating the game for "reasons". For every negative article you find on N4G I could post a positive article just as quickly the issue I am seeing is no one is paying any attention to the positive and running wild with the negative. It is actually very interesting to watch unfold.
So...can we all just admit that the previews for this game have been mostly consistent in terms of describing the game as "generic" and/or "boring"? Even if this game turns out to be a masterpiece in the eyes of the media when the game comes out, ud have to be a fool to not see that this game isn't being marketed as well as it could be. And the fact that its coming out around the same time frame as the Witcher 3 doesnt bode well for it either.
True. I also agree with your other comment up there about the conspiracy. Anything that doesn't support Sony is automatic down vote here. Though it seems it's eased up as of late. Idk why people think these sites are just ganging up on it. They actually played the demo, and most people that saw the demo themselves agree it looked boring. And that's a shame too, because I bought a PS4 for Uncharted 4 and The Order. I was hoping for a gorgeous, intense and kind of fast paced Van Helsing steampunk type of game, not a movie with minimal input. At least Bloodborne still seems to be going on the right track though.
Don't feel bad, I bought my 60 gig fat ps3 for Lair.............. the hype killed it. Granted, it was a good game, just not the great game I thought it was gonna be. At any rate, I enjoyed many great games on my ps3 even though Lair didn't turn out how I had hoped. I'm thinking this will be the issue with the Order. It will be a decent game, just not what people are hoping for, but the people that bought or will buy their ps4's for this game will have other games to enjoy.
I didn't need journalists to tell me something I can see from the gameplay videos. I have 0 interest in this game. And that hasn't changed cause of media negative previews. It looked like graphics over gameplay to me. And I hate games like that. On my ps4 I'll enjoy GTA 5 next gen version in a few weeks. A game where Gameplay matters over graphics.
I didn't need journalists to tell me something I can see from the gameplay videos. I have 0 interest in this game. And that hasn't changed cause of media negative previews. It looked like graphics over gameplay to me. And I hate games like that. On my ps4 I'll enjoy GTA 5 next gen version in a few weeks. A game where gameplay matters over graphics.
Pre orders say otherwise, the game will ge great
...... Pre-orders negate the fact that The Order is heavily cinematic? -_- Anyways, I hope it is a great game so I can add it to my collection but at this point I'm far too cynical in regards to PS4 exclusives to have positive feelings on The Order. Shadowfall was mediocre. Second Son was a great game but arguably not the best entry in the series. DriveClub is the latest culprit. The only PS4 exclusive so far that lived up to the hype is Resogun and thats only because people werent expecting much from a free title anyways.
I disagreed and I know it's just a matter of opinion but: 1) agreed, killzone was mediocre due to sp, but mp was the best at time of launch on next gen consoles. 2) ISS - was not the best in series, but still an amazing game 3) Knack - was way better than what the reviews said and came with a candy crush like app to farm materials for the SP. It was better than expectations and oddly, although people are crying for Crash, they didn't play a game that had influences from Crash and played very old skool like Crash. 4) DriveClub - not working as intended yet, but still one of the best arcade racers made. Anyone who loves Grid, PGR and MGR would agree. Again, after the reviews I read, it was great beyond expectations. The Order is being killed by journalists. It is being slowly tortured and killed based on a single 5-10min gameplay section from a while ago. Just because it is cinematic it is being sold as something bad, like cinematic is a bad thing. It is entirely possible for a game to be cinematic and be a great journey. Many GoW games are just that. So are the Uncharted games, TLOU, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, and others. For some reason this game to be cinematic is bad based on an extremely short demo. I'm not saying it's a great game, I'm just saying the stupidity, the reaching, the bit picking, the unnecessary trolling by various sites, continuously over an extended period is bullshit. They have been doing this to a few games this generation and it is killing the developers. How the hell do you expect any developer to create a game with attitudes like this? One minute you like cinematic games, the next you don't. One minute you like tps, the next you don't. Some games are allowed to be linear, others are not. Story is good, no story is bad. Great graphics are, no they are bad. Innovation is good, innovation is bad. These guys can't make their minds up and then the trolls eat up the shit they are fed and spew it all out on forums and sites like it is the gods honest truth.
@fei-hung: For the life of me, I can't understand what's so bad about Knack. It seems like it got unfairly prejudged. I enjoyed it enough to finish it
If only preorders could negate your biased, ignorant comments. This is the same damn demo from how long ago? But you, these "journalists," and the rest of the trolls are acting like this is something new that shows that first impression hasn't changed. Enough with the bullshit. You've been trying to justify stupidity for far too long, and I guess some people are dumb enough to fall for it. This is shoddy journalism- your favorite kind- and there are NO reasons to take it seriously. Unless, of course, you're pushing an agenda. But you wouldn't do that, would you? /s
All preorder means is you've got nothing else to spend money on. At the end of the day real sales is what matters. Not just VG Charts, but Digital Downloads too.
Oh you mean like destiny? That was pre ordered like tomorrow and we saw how that turned out. These guys are barely showing us anything and Sony is not doing anything either to convince us otherwise. That to me, as a gamer, is unsettling. Are they just expecting us to buy it just because? Not to mention trying to go toe to toe with the Witcher 3. An established and loved franchise that also looks amazing and is an open interactive world. There are also other exciting and well received games coming out around then. They need to just delay it and re work it, because as is I'm pretty sure this is only going to do well with the Sony faithful. There's no shame in doing that to deliver your fan base a solid product.
@reaper29r "These guys are barely showing us anything and Sony is not doing anything either to convince us otherwise. That to me, as a gamer, is unsettling. Are they just expecting us to buy it just because?" What are you even saying!? Between live streaming of gameplay from your PS4, and Noe SharePlay, Sony is NOT expecting you to "just buy" anything. You can now see and even try the game for yourself before ever deciding to spend money in it. Most games on metacritic gets reviewed by only 70-90 different websites. We have 250-300 million console gamers, so there's no way we should let less than 100 so-called journalists dictate to us what is good or bad. We now have the power to make this decision on our own, with much more ease than ever before. 250,000,000 Gamers are sitting and waiting on what IGN, or Gamespot, or Giant Bomb have to say about a game. The ratio of journalists to gamers is the same ratio of you possibly winning the lotto. There is no way these "colletive fackers" can speak for 250 million people!
Here we go. All of this convenient timing.
Convenient timing? This opinion has been doing the rounds for MONTHS now. There is no coordinated conspiracy if that is what you are getting at.
As long as is entertaining.
I don't get why they still show that same demo... It keeps getting negatively criticized but they keep showing it off like nothing else is ready to show. I'm getting worried. Fingers crossed it's a great game, been looking forward to that one.
it saddens me more and more to see the level of intelligence when it comes to this game and sony games in general.and the lack of patience from gamers these days astounds me. ready at dawn shows a trailer without giving away any plot line. ready at dawn then show us SOME gameplay to give you an idea how it plays without giving away plot line. they then show you one of the enemies you may encounter without giving away any plot line. but impatient,narrow minded,crybaby gamers have time and time again, blasted the game without any knowledge of the FINAL GAME. it's like some idiots on this site would like to see the whole game before it releases.no one wants surprises anymore.wants every frickin game to have online and every frickin game to be open world.either from the haters or from SOME xbox fans who abandoned ship to join the sony crew.all i see is ignorance. ready at dawn has made good games.period.to bash them before the final release shows stupidity and rush to judgement. it's a good thing sony released share play as most ridiculous opinions will fall by the way side and be ignored by the greater playstation community.
Uncharted was cinematic as hell and that series is known as one of the greatest ever made.
Couldn't be more true, just like The Last of Us, both are awesome games. I think people have forgotten that Ready at Dawn are known to be great game creators, so at this point it's assumption based on nothing but one or two tiny portions of the game, not even really based around the meat of what the game is about and that is fight the Half Breeds. I wouldn't be surprised if [email protected] drop a far more compelling section of gameplay and a new trailer at the Playstation Experience event in December. There's every chance that we've only been shown a few of the more mundane sections of the game and there's far more exciting stuff still to see.
But UC3 was OVERLY cinematic, which was one of the primary reasons why it is considered to be the worst entry in the main series by most gamers. This is the concern people have with the Order.
Wait, what? I ended up playing the first two right before the third came out and I thought they got progressively better with the third being the best. The airplane part alone was one of the most memorable moments of last gen for me.
It wasn't said to be the worst entry in the series because of that. Beating Uncharted 2 is an almost impossible tak to most devs. The online of the 3rd is what killed it.
@logicwins I agree with you on UC3. Story wasn't that great and some sections made replaying through a chore. The addition of Cutter as a secondary character was also a mistake imo - he wasn't an endearing character at all. But I don't have this concern with the Order. I think it is going to be a lot like UC1 in terms of combat gameplay, story and graphics. That might not be enough for most people but I enjoyed UC1 loads. Looking forward to playing a game set in the UK as well even if some of the nuances might be missed from a non-UK developer.
It's also an incredibly fun to play, not to mention just mindboggling in terms of its fidelity. Previews of The Order say that its gameplay in the demo is concerning. My concern is that they might not simulate enough. If enemies really spawn behind walls and come up shooting like they did in this demo, then thats going to suck so bad. Simulating realtime graphics is good. However you need to simulate much more to create a world that pulls the player in. Good examples of that are Crysis, Metro 2033, Halo Combat Evolved(yes, the first one). These are all fps games,but if you've played these games there's a good chance you'll know what I mean All of these (esp the first 2) had very complex gameplay mechanics that kept you immersed in the world. Those gameplay mechanics were also part of the physics simulation in the game world (Crysis). This led to insane gameplay and immersion. The devs of The Order said they were simulating a lot. Yes, they were talking mostly about graphics at the time, but I really want them to get the entire gameworld simulation right. I hope they are taking examples from games that get it right - eg - games like Ucharted 2. If you want your game to have weight, you need to have some depth in gameplay mechanics and make it seem like the world is simulated. Gameplay sections like what we saw in the vertical slice do just the opposite of that. It completely pulls me out of the game. Lots of people continuously spawning, running up, standing atop rooftops shooting at you while you drag a wounded body across. That's stupid, That reminds me of battlefield 3 and 4 campaign. In those campaigns, it doesn't matter how good mocap performances are - not enough simulation, no immersion/believability, little fun, story doesn't matter. The Order actually looks like it won't have that issue for the most part. However after watching the demo, I have that concern again. Yes, this is just a demo, but using that as an excuse to disregard all criticism is just plain stupid. Demonstrations are demonstrations. If a game demo is good, people get excited. If not, people get concerned about the final game. It's called common sense, not being 'judgemental'.
Same crap they said about Heavy Rain and a man loved it so ignoring until review footage.
'The Order: 1886 Sure is, uh, Cinematic' Nope! not reading this ****. Already know time it is with this article! ain't reading one word of it. Moving on!
Funny how no one says "wait until the game comes out to make a judgement" when a preview says something good.
Most previews see more than 5mins of the game.
of the 2 big sony exclusives in february this is the one that concerns me , and maybe it's worrying sony as well and thats why they left their releases so close together .
Where was this guy six months ago?
All you reviewers and the media can say what you want about this game It won't matter cus guess what............ SHAREPLAY lol ppl who are on the fence will just try it through shareplay so calm down.
Hmm. I wish they would release a newer build, reading about the same demo gets a bit tiring. Ready at Dawn have a great track record so we'll see. I'm still excited for it. The premise is very promising and for that to be wasted would ultimately suck. And especially since this is their first original I.P. (I could be wrong on that.)