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Sony Releasing Two AAA Games In The Same Month Is A Bad Idea

The PlayStation 4 is coming up to its first birthday and many are still waiting for that Greatness Sony Promised. With a list of average to mediocre indie titles making their debut on the PS4, it's not surprising that many gamers have felt cheated for spending money on a machine that has failed to deliver on its promise so far.

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GarrusVakarian3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

They should push The Order into April, so it has the month to itself. Otherwise it's going to get into some stiff competition with Bloodborne and The Witcher 3. Not exactly a wise choice for a new IP.

DJustinUNCHAIND3902d ago

I would argue that the Bloodborne should be the one that makes the move.

The Order is going to appeal to more people than Bloodborne is. At least, more casuals.

Irishguy953902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

I'd actually be curious to see the two together in the same month, to see which sells more and how far from soft have come.

If one is to be pushed back I hope it's the order. I don't think it looks great(Graphics excluded), whereas i'm a massive fan of Souls series.

Salooh3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

I'm buying the three of them so i don't care . The only thing that matters to me is to play them as soon as possible. Feb gonna be awesome !!!!! But isn't bloodborne releasing in march ?. o.o ..

raWfodog3901d ago

Maybe one will appeal to more people than the other but the other is still eagerly awaited by those fans so they shouldn't have to take the backseat to the other game. Not everyone is interested in both games.

RedDevils3901d ago

Doesn't matter I buy both

Saigon3901d ago

It doesn't bother me at all because I am going to buy both either way if they release the same month.

In reality the Order should not be delayed anymore because it has already been delayed once. In my opinion, if they delay it again, they will lose some fans that actually want the game.

Bloodborne, though I hate to say this, should be delayed if needed or because of scheduling. This will allow From Soft to put more spit and polish into the game.

Just my opinion; still think it is ok to release them all in the same month.

bouzebbal3901d ago

i think it's a bad idea too. January then march would have been wiser.

blitz06233901d ago

And if Sony pushes one of them back you'll get the usual "Delaystation" comment or that "PS4 has no gamez".

d0x3603901d ago

I'll be buying bloodborne but I have zero interest in the order. It looks so generic and boring. Amazing graphics yes but that's basically it.

Scottyabanks3901d ago

Do not push Bloodborne! I'm a seasonal worker and I go back to work beginning of April. 60 hours a week for 8 months and off December through March. Bloodborne is going to get me through those last two months. Besides, the souls series requires serious time and dedication of which I don't have duiring the work season.

Back-to-Back3901d ago

How does a new IP(The order) appeal to more people than a game with a large fanbase already(Bloodborne). The Souls games actually sell very well.

NegativeCreep4273901d ago

@blitz0623

My thoughts exactly!

Any delays for these games and the rusty old "2015 is shaping up to be the worst year ever for PS4 gaming!...just like 2014" train is going to be chuggin' back into n4g town.

GIZOTyler3901d ago

Having played some of The Order at PAX... that game needs as much time as it can get.

Lord_Sloth3901d ago

I don't believe the 2 will overlap for fans though. 1 is a shooter and the other is more akin to Demon's Souls.

thorstein3901d ago

So, let me get this straight.

Hateboys complain that there aren't enough games for the system (they're wrong BTW), and now, 2 AAA games are releasing in the same month and now it's a "Bad Idea."

WTF? Learn to journalize.

SmielmaN3901d ago

I would think that the attach rate of the PS4 plus the holiday season make Sony feel confident that both games will sell. Choice of a couple non COD games for the holidays is alright by me.

mikeslemonade3901d ago

They need to push back the Order. The game doesn't look ready anyway. It will get delayed.

maniacmayhem3901d ago

Me personally if I had to chose one I would chose Bloodborne.

That game looks sweet.

Sevir3901d ago

Bloodborne releases early February while the Order releases late Feb, PS4 fans will likely buy both, Shooter fans will buy the Order, and souls fans will buy Bloodborne.

It's crazy to see people complain that the PS4 doesn't have any AAA games to hitching that releasing 2 AAA games at opposite ends of the same month is a bad idea! Journalism at its finest

Wizard_King3901d ago

Wow poor console gamers. Already no games to play and people think 2 AAA games in one month is to much.

I'll just leave it at that.

XB1_PS43901d ago

It's good for the customers that want the games. I don't think they should move either. It's not like they have anything to worry about. If people were going to buy both games, they still are either way.

dantesparda3901d ago (Edited 3901d ago )

I'd buy both if they came out on the same day. Even though i much prefer TO. But do agree they should have had their own month. And to the Order "meh"-sayers (Irishguy & dox360), i dont wanna hear you two talking about how great Gears is.

Aghashie3901d ago

@DJustin

I agree that The Order has more appeal to casual market. But I believe that more people r waiting on Bloodborne. So, The Order is the one that should be pushed a month or so.

Anyway, I feel like Sony is trying to please everyone putting those two games together on release. They know doing this will hurt some sales, but I think they don't care. They seem more interested into keeping fan base happy rather than high sale numbers. Not a bad move if u ask me. I wished every month would be like that w two or three good games to choose instead of only one game per month. U won't always get money to get them all, but it feels good when ur system of choice has some already released games on shelve that u want to play. U can finish whatever game u r playing and an hour later be playing a new game without the need to wait weeks or months for the next big release. Just my opinion :)

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GribbleGrunger3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

I'm not sure about that. MS are likely to have a Witcher bundle and it would be wise for Sony to have two bundles of their own, because it's better to overcompensate than underestimate. A Bloodborne/Order combo bundle would also be attractive for anyone who is ready to buy a console for the Witcher but isn't quite sure which console to get. When trying to justify a console purchase based on ONE game, it's likely to help persuade you if there are two AAA titles to back that justification up. I honestly think it's a smart move, even if it does cut into the sales of one game or the other.

Samsara823902d ago

yeah I think both games coming out almost at the same time is good for the platform but maybe not as good for the 2 devs since maybe not all people will decide to get both games at launch.

Jaqen_Hghar3902d ago

Sony isn't going to worry about a 3rd party bundle of a non-exclusive when they have exclusives on either side of it. Madden and COD have sold more on PS4 this gen even with MS money behind their ads and bundles. Since MS doesn't have much to compensate for these 2 exclusives as they have nothing for early next year. Not to mention Ratchet is getting their remake and movie (extra mindshare for game and Sony) in the first half of 2015 as well.

TheNew13901d ago

@Jaqen_Hghar I can bet my account that Warfare sell better on the Xbox.

ThanatosDMC3901d ago

@TheNew1

COD Ghost sold more on PS4. More consoles.

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ArchangelMike3902d ago

Yeah, Sony should definately space the games out and not have two of their major new IPs compete in the same month with each other and also with The Witcher 3. Although both The Order and Bloodborne release before The Witcher 3, I still think The Witcher 3 has the greatest draw for most gamers. But the sales will tell in the end :)

nosferatuzodd3902d ago

first y'all complaining about wheres the game now Sony is bringing by the pile and y'all still find shit to cry about gamers are such spoiled brats these days

Da Ill One3902d ago

I know they aren't the same Genre but Mortal Kombat X is coming out in April as well, and that's pretty much guaranteed a multi-million seller. the order should release during the summer drought, (Late May to Early September) for the most sales.

JsonHenry3902d ago

Really? Cause I'm looking forward to buying both!

GarrusVakarian3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

Well that's alright then, better keep them in the same month, just for you!

Lol, I'm just kidding. It's just that some people can't afford to buy so many games in a single month. And it's not exactly wise putting two new IP's together in the same month, competing for the same sales. Better to spread them out and give each game a fighting chance.

Baka-akaB3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

Isnt it presomptuous to expect the public for both games to really be the same ?

I feel you guys are only saying that because both are Sony ips . There is going to be an overlap with a big franchise either way , unless they aim for the summer dead zone

JsonHenry3902d ago

Exactly. There will be more than just these two hyped games releasing in the same time window. But I understand the sentiment that the OP is getting on about.

But honestly if I had to choose one over the other Bloodborne gets my vote. I think The Order will be a decent game but nothing earth shattering. I hope I'm wrong. But to me it looks like a much cooler take on Gears of War. (I just like Tesla!)

ABizzel13902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

They have over 20 A - AAA exclusives for 2015, there's going to be overlap regardless of what they do.

On that note I do think these two games need to be moved apart from each other. They have a very similar dread feel to them (one being shooter, one being hack n slash), and it doesn't make sense to have them both releasing in the same month.

The Order should be pushed back, and give RAD the extra time they need to make sure the game is as good as it can be. Even if it's just a month or two.

Roccetarius3901d ago

Bloodborne is what you would call Action RPG, just saying. :)

ABizzel13901d ago

Action RPG, with hack and slash gameplay, just saying :D

Ryan7413901d ago

20 AAA exclusives for 2015? That's insane.

Magicite3902d ago

not exactly the same genre.

Angeljuice3902d ago

One or the other will likely be delayed anyway, I wouldn't worry too much.

Death3902d ago

Each of these games will appeal to a different audience. Releasing multiple games gives people more choices. Having too many good games is not a bad problem to have.

geddesmond3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

Sony has always released games along with other IPs. Look at LBP3. To the eye it looks like Sony is sending it out to die by releasing it same date as Dragon Age Far Cry 4 and GTA5 but Soy knows who ever wants to buy a game will get it reguardless. I have often bought 10 plus games at christmas time. Sometimes bought 3 games at once.

I will be buying the order, the witcher and BLOODBORNE in february. I have even been throwing 20 euros a week away for gaming next year since june of this year. Games cost 75 euros to buy in shops over here to let you know.

EDIT: Not everyone is into the same genre or likes the same games. People who find bloodeborne to hard will go for the order, while the order haters will go for bloodeborne.

lelo2play3901d ago

"Sony Releasing Two AAA Games In The Same Month Is A Bad Idea"

Maybe Sony is not too confident about The order. Previews have not been good.

BABY-JEDI3901d ago

Yeah. Look at IGN review of Alien Isolation. We all know how bad that is. Wait a minute. It's friggin awesome.

Yahdaree3901d ago

Why not move something to January?

wsoutlaw873901d ago

Has the author ever seen a November release schedual? AAA games release in the same month all the time and as long as its not the same day, it doesn't matter too much. It will also make it appear that sony just has so many exclisives to some people if the come out around the same time. Gamers know what games are coming and which they are going to buy. This isnt a time when people walk in to a store and just buy the newest game.

Yetter3901d ago

but the Order was already pushed back once

KrisButtar3901d ago

Had to disagree as I would rather Bloodbourne pushed back/delayed as I have no interest in it but the Order on the other hand can't come soon enough.

OB1Biker3901d ago

Unless your interested in the games selling its more the interest of gamers to have the games ASAP and have the choice.
Also I ll pick up all three and they r different Genre. You can have a break from bloodborne and go through the story in the order then take your time exploring the Witcher world then come back to bloodborne regularly. Those games will keep me playing for a long time

bangoskank3901d ago

I'll get Bloodborne and The Order if I can afford both. The Order will be a nice break to shoot the crap out of stuff when I'm tired of getting my ass kicked in Bloodborne.

ricochetmg3901d ago

I am going with bloodborne because it has multiplayer.

Syntax-Error3901d ago

Not the same audience. I am buying the order day one. Bloodborne is a bargain bin buy for me.

BX813901d ago

Are there any good ps4 exclusives coming out this holiday season? I was hoping for the order this year.

XanderZane3901d ago

I agree. They should release Bloodborne first in Feb and then release The Order 1886 in March or early in April. Bloodborne is obviously the game that could get AAA score. I really don't see The Order getting a AAA score. I could care less about LBP3 as well.

CKPan3901d ago

Don't forget Dying light.

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sinncross3902d ago

Both games are like 2 weeks apart... this hasnt stopped Nintendo from releasing their games on the game day and seeing the same results as if the games were separated more.

If people really want these games they will buy them. Feb 2014 basically looks to be fairly strong for the PS4. A good start to the year is what Sony will want to keep momentum for the rest of the year.

GarrusVakarian3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

Spreading out the releases is what keeps a steady momentum. Bunching them all up into the same month creates a ton of momentum for a short amount of time. They should pace the releases by moving one of them into April.

Death3902d ago

That's assuming all people buy all games when they release. These games will be available for a very long time. The PS4 sells very well without triple A games. These games will have very little impact on sales or momentum.

wsoutlaw873901d ago

That "ton of momentum" from multiple exclisives being released sticks in people's minds that sony has a lot of exclusives out. Sony has stacked months before, it doesn't really change anything. Delaying the order will just turn more people off of the game. They aren't going to move one, they were aware of the schedual when they released it.

Angeljuice3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

@sinncross

Feb 2015 looks better (I assume that 2014 was a typo).

TimeSkipLuffy3902d ago

There is a good chance that one of those games will be pushed back to be "polished" further. That is very uncommon anymore.

ArchangelMike3902d ago

I hear you, and I'm thinking that game will be The Order 1886!!!

HolyDuck3902d ago

Without a doubt I believe at least one of these games will be pushed back. Let's hope what ever extra time is given to which ever game will actually be of use, that year delay on Drive Club didn't do much.

wsoutlaw873901d ago

The order was already kind of pushed back, and they new about bloodborne when they set the new date. Sony won't delay it unless the game actually needs it.

iamnsuperman3902d ago

I don't think it matters. Bloodborne appeals to the dark souls crowd. Dark Souls polarized people and bloodborne will do the same. The order is more of a typical blockbuster title. Something that will have a bigger appeal. I doubt the fan crossover will be that much for these two titles to get in each other's way

EasyOneTwoThree3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

It's not a bad thing. Ubisoft releasing 3 games this upcoming November soo....

uth113902d ago

Would have been 4 if they didn't delay the Crew

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Why a Bloodborne Sequel Could Never Be a True 'Bloodborne 2'

If FromSoftware's Bloodborne ever gets a sequel—and that's a big if—it won't be able to simply pick up where its predecessor left off.

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gold_drake26d ago

probably due to some.of the endings true.

but u can still continue it on and subsequently end it for good.

The_Hooligan26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I wonder if they could do a prequal where you play as part of the first hunt and see the blood research and the downfall of the healing church and the remaining hunters.

zaanan26d ago

That is a super great idea, I would 1000% pay full price for this! Only if Miyazaki directed, obviuosly. Bloodborne hooked me in a way Dark Souls never did.

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The Order: 1886 Sequel Would Have Featured Larger-Scale Battles & Multiplayer

A sequel to Sony and Ready At Dawn's action-adventure game, The Order: 1886, would have featured larger-scale battles as well as multiplayer.

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pwnmaster300031d ago

I missed it when games use to have a multiplayer to them.
Hope Sony revives the game at one point

KyRo31d ago

Killzone, Resistance, Uncharted, TLOU, Motorstorm. Great times. Its a shame how far they've fallen this generation

Muigi31d ago

Oh they still do…its just the whole game now 😂.

-Foxtrot31d ago

Why add multiplayer when the single player (despite enjoying it for what it was) had flaws?

You'd work out the issues with how you craft the single player then once you’ve perfected it do multiplayer after.

RaidenBlack31d ago

https://www.videogameschron...
"Two sequels were planned for the franchise, The Order 1891 and The Order 1899. While the third game was never in development, Weerasuriya says he had planned where the story of the franchise was planned to go, if he had been able to develop the full trilogy."
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Alas, we'll also might never get the PC version of 1886, which is currently residing in some dev's hard drive, nearly ready for a release if required.

Charal31d ago

It’s a shame we didn’t gave its chance to this franchise.
Game world was very interesting, and gameplay could have evolved to a major hit with sequels.
Not even speaking about graphics that were way ahead of their time.

Reaper22_31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

If "we" is sony, i agree. I liked the game but it was metacritic that contributed to it's death. It's a shame.

AshleeEmerson31d ago

No, we are "us," the gamers who rated it so low on Metacritic, hurting... Killing its sales. I agree it is a shame. I loved this game.

Charal31d ago

No it is not, it is us has a community which crucified this game, which is happening much too often.

CrimsonWing6931d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I think MP being co-op would’ve been awesome. Essentially, I always viewed this as Sony’s take on the Gears series.

However, it really failed to measure up to what I expected. I definitely saw the potential but there were some things that really bogged it down for me like the forced slow walking segments (which I know was to hide loading), the repetitive warehouse werewolf fights, not enough variety in enemies, oddly we fought more humans than Darkstalkers, and the stealth sections were infuriating.

One thing there’s no denying though, this damn game was a looker. Such a shame at the wasted potential.

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The Order: 1886, a Ten Year Reunion

WTMG's Leo Faria: "After finally playing the now decade-old The Order: 1886, what do I think about it? Is it really worthy of all the hate it has received over the past decade? Or is it some kind of hidden gem? I honestly think it falls somewhere in the middle. I loved the setting, the story is initially fine, the combat isn’t half-bad, and the potential for some awesome world building was there. It was all bogged down by too much ambition against a tight deadline, as well as poor marketing. As a result, it’s short, full of plotholes, infested with QTEs, and not exactly memorable as a whole. As a game you can grab for less than ten bucks today, I absolutely think it’s worth checking out. It’s one hell of a wasted potential, but for such a discount, I had some fun with it, and I’m sure you will too."

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SimpleSlave128d ago (Edited 128d ago )

Great setting, great graphics, even decent gun play, but what a trash of a game. The fuck were these people thinking? We could've had something like an Alan Wake 2 meets Mass Effect 2 style game. With investigations, creepy locations to uncover and explore, people to talk to and even recruit, clues to uncover and connect, monsters to slay, side quests to get lost in, and a more expansive lore to go with it.

Instead we got a shitty AAAAAAAAA Third Person Pew Pew snoozfest. Awesome.

_SilverHawk_128d ago

The order 1886 was one of the best games I played on ps4. Within a top 5 best ps4 games I'd put the last of us 2, the order 1886, days gone, horizon zero dawn and God of war.

SimpleSlave128d ago

"The order 1886 was one of the best games I played on ps4. Within a top 5 best ps4 games..."

Jesus H. Christ, bud. You just sound like a Sony apologist. What the fuck? Anyways. Good luck with that or whatever.

coolbeans128d ago

God. The "what could've been" you're describing would've been way better than just being the most empty cinematic shooter slop of that generation.

SimpleSlave128d ago

Right? I mean, I can understand people enjoying this thing ironically. Knowing that it sucks but still enjoying it for what it is. I get that. That's fine. We all have our guilty pleasure no doubt. But to come here and actually pretend that this is a top 5 PS4 game? Wow!

To pretend that this barely there game is anything more than an "empty cinematic shooter slop of that generation," as you said, is beyond ridiculous. But I guess Self-Awareness is some expensive ass DLC still.

Espangerish127d ago

I really enjoyed this game and also think it was one of the best PS4 games. It’s weird to me that this makes you so angry. I’m not a Sony fan at all by the way, very much pc player.

SimpleSlave127d ago

"and also think it was one of the best PS4 games"
"I’m not a Sony fan at all by the way, very much pc player."

Yeah, OK. You want to lie to yourself? You do you, bud. But like I said to the other Sony apologist, "good luck with that or whatever."

-Foxtrot127d ago

Jesus, it had some flaws but you're acting like it was unplayable.

It built a foundation, a rocky one but a sequel is where they could have refined things.

Personally my only issue is I feel like the "Gears of War" like over the shoulder gameplay, especially getting into cover and the like didn't really fit the game as much. In Gears you understand that kind of gameplay because they are wearing super heavy amour and guns but in the Order these guys are super human, they should feel more of a breeze to control, easily jumping over things and being allowed to climb whatever similar to Uncharted.

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Inverno128d ago

Im back again to simp for The Order, if ya like games well grounded in their reality with consistency in everything it does then I recommend it if ya haven't played it. Play it thru emulation or on your PS it don't matter just play it.

1nsomniac128d ago (Edited 128d ago )

A great game run down by the media for it's price vs length - Which was understandable, but it shouldn't of been the be all and end all.

At the right price this was a great game & deserved a sequel!

thorstein128d ago

Exactly. What a weird metric that suddenly was important and then, within a few months, no longer mattered.

andy85128d ago

I enjoyed this. I think the complaints were the length if I remember. Nothing wrong with a short good game, at least to physical copy owners 😅

Rebel_Scum128d ago

Put the thing on PS plus already!

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