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Has the Xbox One Been Misunderstood This Whole Time

As a gamer, one can’t help but feel sorry for Microsoft’s Xbox One. It’s a console with tremendous potential, great graphics and some killer titles to boot… But has the Xbox One been misunderstood since it launched back in November of 2013?

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Bennibop1459d ago

Was never the console that bothered people it was Microsofts anti consumer policies that were trying to shaft us all!

DJustinUNCHAIND1459d ago

And they changed all that.

So now what?

98xpresent1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

I have no idea

xHeavYx1459d ago

Now they need to regain people's trust, and that's gonna take a long time with all the backpedaling they had to do. They also need to find a way for the One to match the PS4 when it comes to 1080p

Godmars2901459d ago

Stigma. Loss of trust. MS's not going to get what they lost just because they or fans want it back.

Nevermind that for mistakes made, they didn't understand that they had been made.

Christopher1459d ago

The only reason they changed it is because their console didn't sell.

So now what?

Well, I go with the company that catered to me the most from the get-go rather than the company that only changed their harsh policies when they were down and had nowhere else to go.

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gangsta_red1459d ago

Most of you were never going to go with the company, so why even bother pretending that some form of trust was loss?

"They also need to find a way for the One to match the PS4 when it comes to 1080p"

Really? that is all the PS4 has to offer for the One to match is 1080p? Wow, just goes to show what Sony gamers mostly care about.

What's so hilarious with your comments is most of the games coming out our always online. The features you guys are all crazy about for both consoles require you to be online, heck most, if not all of you pay to play online.

Am I defending MS's DRM they tried to pass on us, no... but to see well known sony fans saying that they lost trust in MS when Sony is slowly implementing the same policies and will probably have them in place down the road is just hilarious.

AngelicIceDiamond1459d ago

@Heavy Not really. 1080p is just 50 50 its just gonna have to be that lingering negative perception.

It would be WAY different if X1 games froze and noticeably performing very poorly.

In which they don't have the time.

Outside_ofthe_Box1459d ago

***"What's so hilarious with your comments is most of the games coming out our always online. The features you guys are all crazy about for both consoles require you to be online, heck most, if not all of you pay to play online.

Am I defending MS's DRM they tried to pass on us, no... but to see well known sony fans saying that they lost trust in MS when Sony is slowly implementing the same policies and will probably have them in place down the road is just hilarious."***

So because people pay for online or because certain features in games require online people should not be against or should not mind a console that FORCES you to be online always? What kind of thinking is that?

There is nothing hilarious about choosing to pay for online and being against something that FORCES you to do so.

Also how is Sony slowing implementing the same polices? Last I checked you can still sell your games used and you can still play offline if you choose to do so.

ainTgoTTime2bleed1459d ago

''..And they changed all that''...Yeah with just a flip to the switch...lol

Christopher1459d ago

***What's so hilarious with your comments is most of the games coming out our always online.***

Shadow of Mordor, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Lord of the Fallen, Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, The Legend of Korra, Assassin's Creed: Unity, PES 2015, Far Cry 4, GTAV, The Witcher 3, Mortal Kombat X, Batman: Arkham Knight.

Sorry, what were you saying about "always online" again?

MysticStrummer1459d ago

The gamers I know who refuse to buy an XB1 felt that way before XB1 and it's policies were ever revealed. For them, it was their experiences with 360's RRoD that made them want to avoid a MS console. XB1 wasn't misunderstood, it was simply not wanted by those people. I don't know how many feel the same, but RRoD was a pretty widespread problem.

@gangsta - What's hilarious is that you completely made up something and then found it to be hilarious. Most games are not always online.

Highlife1459d ago

No just an identity crisis in the beginning. I'm a PlayStation guy and don't have the time to invest in 2 consoles but I will admit that xbox has been hitting their stride lately and that's good for all.

MasterCornholio1459d ago

First impressions can last a long time. The sales are proof of that.

Old_Prodigy1459d ago

Would you let a convicted rapist who claims to be a changed man near your children?

XisThatKid1459d ago

I'm ganna say....Prolly.

amiga-man1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

I think gamers understood what MS and the xone stood for very well and were not interested in supporting MS or the stupid policies they deemed acceptable.

Yes they have done enough 180's to make peoples head spin but it was poor pre orders that forced the change, If MS had listened to what gamers were saying long before the xone launch, the xone may be doing a little better.

Unfortunately they wern't listening till it was too late, the fact the PS4 was cheaper and more powerful was the icing on the cake and made choosing the PS4 a simple one.

Pogmathoin1459d ago

Trust, my a55! Some here would never have bought it anyway. If your married to your PS, fine, but the pile that has come out of people mouths here is ridiculous. Like Sony never did nothing bad either..... They learned after sneaking in CD DRM malware on millions of computers, but you talk about trust? MS said up front what they planned, DRM was needed to stop pirating the games that could have been shared.... Also, online all the time? Well, what has the last 5 years been??

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Spotie1459d ago

Even when Microsoft wasn't clear, people still knew what their aim was. We're not ALL as dumb as they want us to be.

Cha0tik1459d ago

What do you mean they changed all that? They can't just flip a switch like they did and gain everyones trust back. This is something that is going to take time because you never know... one day they might say "Back to square one. Let's announce our biggest update yet...DRM is back!" and we can't do shit about it but sale the console that we have already purchased. I have one but the PS4 is my primary because I don't want to end up disappointed if they choose to do this in the future. As for multiplats... I want the best experience possible so I'm going with the one for the console that performs better.

DarXyde1459d ago

I've always liked the Xbox. A fine gaming device, however I'm not exactly keen on supporting Microsoft. As a company, I can't say I like them. If they sell the Xbox branch, I'd be more than eager to get the Xbox One as it's not another company I can live without.

pompombrum1459d ago

Now they're eating humble pie while looking on in envy as Sony gains more and more ground each day in Microsoft's home territories. I honestly hope Microsoft turns it around but being honest, I don't see them bridging the gap this gen at least.

Septic1459d ago

@cgoodno
"Well, I go with the company that catered to me the most from the get-go"

You know what I do? I go with buying all consoles and dont "go with" any company. I pick the platform to play on that delivers whats most important, the games. The Xbox One is that platform for me this year. This might change tomorrow, next month or next year, depending on the games.

And respect to Sony for their policies to a certain extent but are we all going to be naive or pretend that this company that was suffering from absolutely dire financial problems had any other choice than to leverage whatever advantage it had?

Highlife1459d ago

It happened to PlayStation after the ps2 they got cocky built a hard to program for system, made it expensive and then said get another job. They quickly learned their lesson and fixed it with the ps4. I just feel that is what happened to xbox with the 360 they did well and it got to their head and thought they could do what they want and they people will follow that didn't happen and now they are fixing it. Let's just hope these to companies keep listening to their fans and stay humble.

Hold_It1459d ago

Parity. Also the fact that they keep saying things are exclusive when they aren't. The fact that people keep calling it a gaming console when really at best it's a home theater PC w/ DVR meant to compete with Apple TV with console functionality.

CorndogBurglar1459d ago

They changed the DRM, yes.

But they were extremely insulting to potential buyers and longtime fans.

When asked how people who don't have internet access, including soldiers overseas, their reply was, "We have a system for them, the 360."

Basically telling people that they can't play their new system unless they have internet access, and they aren't doing anything about it.

How insulting can you be?

Getting the Red Ring of Death 4 times last gen, and then this d-bag way of presenting their new console while basically saying, "if you don't like it, don't buy it"....all of those things made me jump ship. I've been an X-Box fan since the original, but that was too much.

diaz_aa1459d ago

So now after loving my 360 elite even after my first RROD. I loved the outstanding customer service and impeccable live service, I switched, as did a significant number of xbox customers. After the DRM, kinect is tied to the system, etc backtread or reversal, Microsoft was obviously lying. They tried to lie, and be too greedy. I felt the only way to object, was to not give them my hard earned $. So I bought a ps4. "Never bite the hand that feeds you", well they bit me and I chose to move on.

gangsta_red1459d ago

"not mind a console that FORCES you to be online always? What kind of thinking is that?"

If you ALWAYS pay for online and you are playing games that are always online then why would you mind exactly having a console that is always online?

Think about that for a minute...

And who FORCED you online? You mean MS led customers into a store and FORCED them to pay for their console? The console is always online regardless thanks to Live and so far MS has had very little downtime unlike the PS4.

I love this false sense of choice you all seem to think you have. Sony is just as much FORCING you to pay to play online than MS would have with an always online console.

"Also how is Sony slowing implementing the same polices?"

Let me see, PSNow which will always be online, those are already the building blocks for Sony's future as they have said it themselves.

PS+ with their free games...until you disconnect the service that is.

The whole big push for digital games as Sony makes every new game available a day in advance or on the same day. How long will it be before Sony starts doing their own checks to see what type of games you rented or DL'd from their service...I mean they already tried to FORCE online passes on their first party games during PS3 right?

"Sorry, what were you saying about "always online" again?"

Titanfall, Destiny, Planetside 2, Fable Legends, H1Z1, DC Universe Online, Plants vs Zombies, Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

I was saying pretty much that..

ChickenOfTheCaveMan1459d ago

Now what?
Well, what's been said can't be unsaid, there's that.

When there was that always connected rule, I remember that M$ guy answer to the question what if I want to bring it to the chalet or a remote place without internet, "there's the 360 for that".

Such a slap to the face of their customers.

BitbyDeath1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

@gangsta_red, Xbl has had it fair share of outages as well this gen and if the console was forced to be always online it would mean you could not play anything at all during that time.

And then if you think about others who have no internet (yes it is 2015 and there are still millions without access to internet all over the world) then the console will be further restricted to even fewer buyers.

Docknoss1459d ago

Yes, recent reddit article ( http://www.reddit.com/r/xbo...
from a gamestop employee proves that people still think the DRM and other polices from the E3 2013 event are still implented.
"I find that many still believe that the xbox one can't play used games, the xbox needs the kinect plugged in, the xbox needs to be always online, and that you can't sell your games".

thekhurg1459d ago

Doesn't matter that they did a 180 on pretty much everything they were intent on doing. The fact they were considering the option to such an extent that it was their entire reveal left a bad impression for many gamers.

madpuppy1459d ago

MS tries to rewrite the book on consumer ownership rights.

(translation: strip the consumer of almost ALL their ownership rights on products they purchase)

And you think because they backpedaled and removed all those bad and very dangerous policies because of consumer backlash, equating in poor sales, that now they are some sort of saints that should be forgiven?!?!

If someone tries to kill me and changes their mind that doesn't mean that they are now my friend.

otherZinc1459d ago

@xHeavYyx,

LMAO. Trust?
Do you mean, the way you trusted Drive Club & the million lies they've told?

Or, that SONY is for the gamer, with Drive Club & LBP3 for its only holiday exclusives?

Or the severely "downgraded" Drive Club: 50 cars or 15 cars; not 200+ like both Forza Games. Where's the weather in Drive Club. Does the online work yet?

I mean damn?

What about the delays for a console that's "easy" to program for?

Really.

Sony is smoke & mirroring you & others to death.

Sony has promised & delivered nothing.

Halo Master Chief Collection:
1080p 60fps
Dropping ZERO frames.

Forza Motorsport 5:
1080p 60fps
Dropping ZERO frames.

Sony can't say that for 1, not 1 AAA game.

troylazlow1459d ago

We talk about MS loosing our trust, but Sony was the one who lost my credit card information a few years back. I'm still dealing with bad credit ratings because of it, so no Sony is not in my good books.

D3TH_D33LR1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

The fact is that in the terms and conditions Microsoft claims they can change any of their policies without notice. Not that they would immediately reintroduce those policies, but it came across to me like they still don't have a solid vision for the console. Your immediate consumer trust in a massive corporation like Microsoft, who was ready and eager to force their ridiculous next gen vision of gaming and ultimately how the gaming market would have to evolve is a bit alarming too considering they never decided to change a thing until they saw the preorder numbers and their initial PR responses basically told us to get over it. Lol trust me I am. To me it just seemed a little short sighted to believe Microsoft is still thinking of the gamer rather than just realizing they "Need" the gamers to begin with. The backpedalling on different features makes me think they dont exactly have a plan for it over the next 2-3 years. I'll wait til they drop the price to drop to about $150-$200 and pick up some good lookin exclusives. Except atm I just don't trust Microsoft to give them my money, nor really care with a PS4 that's got more than enough games that I haven't touched my 360 and its large game library in 3 months.

DOMination-1459d ago

It was never going to be always online anyway. It was connect once a day. I'm not saying that makes it fine just pointing out a technical difference

USA0071459d ago

There is false information being made up everywhere in these comments. If you're going to argue something, then use real facts please

bouzebbal1459d ago

they changed that yes but now it became nothing more than an underpowered PS4, so people obviously go for the top product.

ramiuk11459d ago

people lost trust in them and didnt agree with there vision.

in an interview with phil he even said that there path and vision is still the same(i hope not).

that has put me off buying one and i still dont trust them because they still havent proven the cloud power that they said was like 4xb1 consoles.

Also and i know this is just opinion but imo there is no games on it that have made me go WOW i want that!

yet on ps4 i have better looking multiplats and then games i cant wait to play.

Ms console updates have been awesome though(sony should take note)but its gonna take another year i think until the trust is back and MS gain some killer exclusive games that are there own.

dunkyson1459d ago

Build a better consoles that are cutting edge and forget kinect

Callum_Alexander1459d ago

Now they have to reap what they've sown and watch as Sony massacre them throughout the entirety of this console generation.

Personally, I'm fairly sure that I'll never buy an Xbox, and Microsoft sold me on buying the PlayStation 4 as much as Sony did. They dropped support for the 360 entirely at the back end of the its life-cycle, and then you look at the ridiculous policies they tried to impose and it's simple. I also take their lack of investment when it comes to first-party studios a sign of their commitment to gaming, or lack thereof. Then there is the fact that they pushed their policies until they saw that nobody was going to buy their console. They didn't change for us, they changed because if they hadn't their gaming division would be even more of a disaster than it already is.

Whichever box you own, good for you! But I switched from Xbox to PlayStation this generation and as it stands I'll never be going back. I also know for certain that I am part of a majority.

Outside_ofthe_Box1458d ago (Edited 1458d ago )

@gangsta_red

***"If you ALWAYS pay for online and you are playing games that are always online then why would you mind exactly having a console that is always online?"***

First of all people that play offline exist. That alone is enough for someone that always pays for online to mind having a console that is always online. People that are considerate of others do in fact exist.

I'm always paying for my internet connection does that mean that I shouldn't mind a laptop or television or smartphone that will only work if it's connected to the internet?

Think about that for a minute...

***"And who FORCED you online? You mean MS led customers into a store and FORCED them to pay for their console? The console is always online regardless thanks to Live and so far MS has had very little downtime unlike the PS4."***

What happened to I'm not defending MS's original policies??? If you purchased an XB1 you were forced to always remain connected to the internet. Sure you aren't forced to buy the console in which case most people didn't hence why MS reversed their policies. If people are online regardless why require it in order for the console to work?

***"I love this false sense of choice you all seem to think you have. Sony is just as much FORCING you to pay to play online than MS would have with an always online console."***

There is no false sense of choice. You're making a "false sense of forcing." The issue isn't that you are forced to pay to play online (well that is a issue, but not in regards to ultimate topic at hand), the issue is that the internet is required in order for the console to function.

***"Let me see, PSNow which will always be online, those are already the building blocks for Sony's future as they have said it themselves."***

How many people plan to actually pay for PSNow? Do you plan on be a member? I know I don't. You can still enjoy your PlayStation console without ever using PSNow. They can set it up as the future as much as they like, but if nobody is using it and Sony is forcing PSNow on us, then Sony will find themselves in MS's position pre-policy reversal. If PSNow does take off over the use of a regular gaming console then it's because the consumers decided that not because Sony said so.

***"PS+ with their free games...until you disconnect the service that is."***

The games are part of the service... It's not like you paid full retail price for the games. I don't see how this is "slowly implementing the same policies."

***"The whole big push for digital games as Sony makes every new game available a day in advance or on the same day. How long will it be before Sony starts doing their own checks to see what type of games you rented or DL'd from their service...I mean they already tried to FORCE online passes on their first party games during PS3 right?"***

Online passes aren't around anymore why is that?

Allowing for games to be preloaded or download the same day is not equivalent to slowly implement the same policies. The way the digital system is set up the way it is now Sony doesn't need to check and never will. So there is no "how long before" crap that we need to constantly worry about. MS's original policies required checks because they were checking for games that you bought with PHYSICAL discs.

I can't believe you got a well said for your original post, but this is N4G after all so I shouldn't be surprised.

MSBAUSTX1458d ago

@ermac

XB1 is not a DVR. It works as a hub to your set top box and coupled with kinect it is pretty awesome. Smartglass allows me to controll my entire entertainment center through my XB1. When I turn my XB1 on, my TV, cable box, and XB1 come on and instantly tune to the channel I like the most. Then I can pause, fast forward, record on my actual DVR, and play any and all shows using the kinect voice commands.

It works brilliantly and I am glad they included it along with 90 percent as good resolution as the PS4. The value is much better for me and my family because of all the XB1 can actually do. I can watch a show while playing a game. PS4 can not.

PS4 is a slightly better gaming machine but in a Halo lovers house and one that watches a lot of TV, my PS4 sits while the XB1 gets turned on daily now. I still play more games on my Wii U anyways so the whole resolution BS argument doesnt matter.

ThatOneGuyThere1458d ago (Edited 1458d ago )

now the console is exactly the same as the PS4, but with half of the graphics card taken out. Also, the real reason for the majority of the PS4's sales advantage is that Sony's systems sell more. This gen they launched simultaneously so people actually had a choice. MS will not be repeating that mistake again. IF microsoft makes a successor, they will try to launch it a year before sony's next console.

Kidmyst1458d ago

@cgoodno I was actually going to go with both PS4 and Xbone at launches, and have been happy with the PS3 and 360. Then the way MSFT ended last gen, came out this gen starting with TV and sports then all the restrictions and way they came across to gamers I canceled my Xbone pre-order to hold off and wait. I have more games from PS plus than I can keep up with and don't see buying a Xbone now anytime soon since everything I want to play I can get on PS4 or PC.

feedthereaper1458d ago

Well considering I own an X1 and very happy with it I think the only thing that will improve the experience for me, and will definitely help boost sales figures, is simple.....

Bring out some really good, varied games!

At the moment it all feels like a waiting game with only maybe 3 or 4 games worth playing in the last 12 months! This Xmas is going to be pretty lame with only COD coming out (which in itself has lost me a lot of interest through samey gameplay year after year) so its really a dire gaming situation for a while now. February onwards seems to have a few titles coming that look good but that is still another 4+ months away.

Until Microsoft start bringing out at least 1 fairly decent title a week or every two weeks, its going to be a struggle to really sell it, and its a struggle sometimes for me to want to turn it on some nights.

Resolution matters little, power is so incomparable between consoles when it comes to really getting into playing games, and the features of the X1 are getting better every month, but at the end of the day its the gamers that buy these consoles and so its the games that sell them and at the moment, and for the next few months, those games are so thin on the ground and spread far apart that it really is hard for a potential customer to really justify buying an X1.

I only hope that when DX12 is fully up and running and allowing much easier porting of PC titles, we start to see a rush of new and old PC titles heading towards the X1 in a flood and then I can almost guarantee the console numbers sold will hyper-rocket through the roof. Until then, there is very little Microsoft can do to sell their console and small price cuts are not going to help at all!

XanderZane1458d ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box
The point he's trying to make is that Sony is already forcing you to be online with most of their games. This was what Sony fanboy were complaining about when M$ said "Always online". If you're not always online with the PS4, you'll miss updates on games, patches, what friends are doing, recording gameplay to Twitch, etc... So you basically have to be online with both PS4 and XB1 to get the full benefit. The only problem with M$ always online is they wanted to use it for DRM verification. Yes, you can still play offline, but at some point you need to go online. The PS4 would suck with ZERO online support. I support both systems for their games. Not their resolution or hardware specs.

Christopher1458d ago

***You know what I do? I go with buying all consoles and dont "go with" any company.***

Sorry, I don't use 2 phones at once and I currently see no point to use 2 consoles at once when the best they can offer is third-party titles that they both have.

NOt all of us throw money all over the place for a handful of exclusives that we may or may not play. Same reason I don't own a Wii U. Because there are only two games on the system I want to play and I'm not spending $300 just for those.

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Death1459d ago

I disagree with Microsoft being anti-consumer with the reveal and planned feature set. As this past year has gone on we have seen many changes. Games are relying more and more on an internet connection and are not fully playable without it. Driveclub's reliance on an internet connection are painfully obvious. Titanfall and Destiny are also online dependant. As funny as it was to see two Sony execs on a couch show how easy it is to share a game, try doing that with your digital download of Drive Club or Destiny. This is without factoring in drive time if you are sharing with someone that doesn't live with you.

Having the ability to rip all of your retail games to your HDD and access them remotely without disc based verification does the same as MP3's did with music. The added ability of sharing these games with friends digitally is a great feature. Letting your friends access Drive Club remotely instead of relying on the PS+ edition to try sounds great today.

Microsoft's biggest issue with the reveal wasn't the features and benefits of their original plans, it was the way it was conveyed to gamers and then in the way they responded to those that didn't understand what they were trying to do.

Ripsta7th1459d ago

Wouldve sucked if MS wouldve achieved their goals! How many games have a decent launch since the new consoles
Came out?! None because internet isnt as fast as it should be.Japan seems more like a market for the xbox because they have gig internet but we know how that turned out

Christopher1459d ago

***Games are relying more and more on an internet connection and are not fully playable without it. ***

Nope. That's actually not true. Multiplayer games are on par with single player games this generation as last generation.

***digital download of Drive Club or Destiny***

Last I checked, people who wanted to trade games don't buy digital. That's why those people rallied so hard against the idea of an all digital console.

***This is without factoring in drive time if you are sharing with someone that doesn't live with you. ***

Silliest logic yet. Last I checked, a free game is a free game and most people would be traveling for other purposes already. If I wanted to sell my games, I just do it when I'm shopping since GameStop is right next to it. Or, I could just do it all online and have Amazon ship me a box to put it in my mailbox to ship to them.

***Having the ability to rip all of your retail games to your HDD and access them remotely without disc based verification does the same as MP3's did with music. ***

Yup. I can buy a song from iTunes and share it all across my devices, such as my Android phone or my Windows phone... Oh... wait...

***those that didn't understand what they were trying to do.***

Trust me, we knew exactly what they were doing. They were selling us pipe dreams and working to make more money for themselves and publishers while removing the second-hand business from the picture all together.

Eonjay1459d ago

The policies were in fact anti consumer but that wasn't it. It was as you said, the PR. Don Mattrick actually told people not to buy it if they weren't happy. This has to be the worst response ever. Even Ubisoft, and their broken PR have never said to not buy their games.

Baka-akaB1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

As usual you are twisting whatever you want for the sake of your pro MS agenda .

If anything Driveclub , Destiny , and all online launches , and the ability for even games like Fifa to even remain connected with autolog features constantly and in a satisfactory fashion ,proves how much more painful the original XB1 promised future would have been .

Someday , soon even the tech behind the idea of a constantly online and digitalwould be good enough , but as of 2014 , it would just be a mess . Clouds or not .

Right now , it only works sporadically and on a game per game basis

Godmars2901459d ago

MS was dubbed anti-consumer because of the old DRM policies, and how they only responded to reaction of them with open contempt and arrogance. Only changed their stance - and fired people - once they saw pre-orders.

And if anything, examples such as Driveclub and Destiny not only show that overall plans haven't changed, with either MS Sony and other publishers, but that as they insist on this online only future - that they aren't ready for it.

UnHoly_One1459d ago

I think what they should have done, Death, is sell two versions of the console right from the start.

The one we have now, and the "digital version", which would be the way they originally wanted it to be.

That way they could have gauged interest in both versions and used this gen as a "transistion" to the next console when you probably wouldn't have had a choice at all.

Death1459d ago

@cgoodno,

Purchasing digital content and ripping your cd's to iTunes library are not the same thing. iTunes made carrying your music around much easier than carrying dozens if not hundreds of cd's with you all the time. Having the ability to rip your games and then have access remotely would allow you to carry your games with you without planning it.

You are arguing just to argue without reason. You can't share your digital games or trade them in. You also can't rip your HDD out and hand it to a friend. The point I made was sharing works great when someone is sitting next to you. It works less great when the person you want to share with lives an hour away. Sharing digitally would be much easier than driving a disc to a friends house.

This is as anti-consumer as it was when Microsoft made broadband a requirement to play online. Always connected and always online is the future that gaming is headed. I don't personally like it, but that won't change progress.

ThePope1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

I love how people try and act like games aren't moving to a more always online future. I mean the biggest game of the year (and one of the most expensive EVER at $500 million) is an always online. While most games aren't going to be ALWAYS online many if not most will offer some sort of online component. So far this gen we have Titanfall, Destiny, Evolve, Fable Legends, and The Division. That's 5 games in less than 2 years that are always online. If you think that's just a fluke wait till DOTA comes to consoles.

What I also love is all the PS4 fanyboys commenting in this article. Its SHOCKING you don't like the X1, I cant believe it. The people with the loudest whining towards the console and you have a problem with it.

I did like a comment from above that said "that is all the PS4 has to offer for the One to match is 1080p? Wow, just goes to show what Sony gamers mostly care about." Its 100% accurate. People are acting like DC and all its issues are ok because its 1080p. See you would never see this kind of debacle on the X1 as Xbox gamers expect more out of their online games. I guess Sony gamers are still in 2004.

Godmars2901459d ago

@Death:
But the thing is under the old DRM you didn't have the "freedom" to play your games anywhere, you could only play them on an XB1. Go to a friend's or relatives and if they had an XB1 you could access your games from their system. With the thing being that such would have been an evolving process over years.

Judging such a plan now by the example of the present, with 500GB HDD being filled within months of launch and recurring online problems, I'm guessing that there would tons of inconvenience would have occurred which consumers would have have to deal with.

Death1459d ago

@Godmars,

You are correct. You needed an Xbox One to access your Xbox One games. I'm not sure how many of my friends would ask to borrow a game for a console they didn't have.

Angeljuice1459d ago

"Having the ability to rip all of your retail games to your HDD and access them remotely without disc based verification does the same as MP3's did with music."

The problem with that was they didn't provide the hardware to make it feasible so it was kind of half-arsed.
The message went more like; Rip all your retail games onto a relatively small *irreplaceable* HDD for a few months until its full then.....?

rainslacker1459d ago

I would say that there are certainly more games nowadays that have an online component, and certainly more that absolutely require an internet connection. That's pretty obvious, and would be hard to argue.

However, there is still plenty of games that are playable without internet, and most games are still just SP games with some MP component tacked on.

Despite MP being much more popular, I'd say there are still more people that prefer to not play online, and I'd argue that not every game even needs online to succeed.

It's easy to cherry pick examples of online games to say, "Hey look all games are online now", but if you actually put all the games down on a list of SP only, MP only, SP/MP combined, you would find that the vast majority of games are still SP only. If you looked further into it, you would see that those SP/MP games are still mostly played offline, with a few exceptions where the SP is the tacked on part(like COD for example).

Making an entire console online only was a mistake. Some of the features that came along with it were good if they were actually true. The being able to access your content on demand even from physical copies is a great idea, but I'm sure a vast majority of people wouldn't mind the inconvenience of occasionally putting the disc in to verify ownership instead of being locked out of any ownership of their game.

There are workaround that would allow MS to achieve all it's stated goals for the X1, most of which have been said by their target audience, MS just doesn't care to explore them, because it doesn't suit their needs of control of the consumer's purchase.

MS biggest issue is that they miscalculated just how intelligent the tech savvy gaming community can be, and just how in touch they were with everything that goes on when it comes to DRM. They overestimated their influence in the marketplace among the consumers, and it came back to bite them in the ass.

Their messaging was never a problem, it was very clear what they wanted. What wasn't clear to MS however, is that the majority of the consumers didn't want what MS was offering.

Lets face it, where were the rallying cries of the majority of Xbox fans when sh*t hit the fan for them? It was practically silent. Very little defense, even from the staunchest of MS supporters on forums and websites alike.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1459d ago (Edited 1459d ago )

DriveClub has a single player mode and so do most games available for the PS4. People keep mentioning MMO's and demonizing always online for those games. My question is simply this; how in the hell are you supposed to play a game designed to be an MMO without it being online? It's absolutely ridiculous to try and bring MMO's into the DRM conversation. So please stop.

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avengers19781459d ago

Did MS understand there console, I mean a year of changing the message, a year of misinformation, a year of poor management, and bad PR, and that was before the console launched and within 6 months after its release... People are still waiting on the cloud and DX12 to some how make the machine better, and even Phil Spencer has said it won't be drastic improvements. MS screwed up and now they are doing everything they can to erase that screw up. Still 4-5 more years of this console cycle, so we'll see what happens in the end, but right now there looking at 3rd place in worldwide sales.

Death1459d ago

The console doesn't need to be "better". Cloud compute is very real, but don't hold your breath for it to make an impact. It is something we will see over time and isn't exclusive to Microsoft consoles. DX12 will make improvements like any middleware update that will it over the course of the next decade. Tools are always being refined. Once again tool updates are not a Microsoft exclusive.

The biggest issues Microsoft faces are from people that assume too much and spread false information.

AngelicIceDiamond1459d ago

Yeah it was mainly the leadership not the hardware itself. being slightly under powered didn't help its perception.

But the message was clear last year and the message was VERY clear.

Now its a much better console with better policies, games, service its a very nice console now.

Mithan1459d ago

Most games on the ps4 are sold digital. Shut the hell up about what ms was doing, it would of been better than what we have now.