GG3 puts the recent announcement of PC game "Hatred" under the microscope and discusses the dangers of its opportunism that clings on mass shootings and supposedly fighting for some connected ideology.
This game should not exist.
It has a nice idea, but the point of the game should be changed, instead of human genocide, it would be better if the dev changes it into demons or Zombies. Because clearly, this will bring a sh*tstorm bigger than what Manhunt had.
then...it will be Dead Nation!
I don't understand if the people disagreeing with me here want the game, or are disagreeing with me because I said it was a nice idea, but the enemies should be Demons or Zombies.
Well making it demons or zombies would just make it pointless. Seriously, let the 24hr News networks have something to talk about. They can consider it a gift. Games are protected speech any way, so just laugh as they rant over it. Maybe we'll get to see ole Jack again. The look on his face will be worth it.
Doesn't look bad but gameplay needs to have some substance if ur just running around killing how bland is that? Well that's not my thing. Gta 5 was so spot on so fun to play that campaign and can't wait to get back into the online when it lands in a couple weeks.
I find even the games title repulsive, but that is my opinion. I think we should be concerned about how many opportunists this game will bring out of the woodwork. People looking to demonize gamers/games, attract traffic, create controversy, etc. I think a preemptive strategy should be in order so that when "SJW" types try to say things like, "look at how terrible gamers and the games they play are" We can say things like, "No, you are a nasty, lying opportunist, who is only protecting your own interests"
Isn't the point of a SJW to intervene where social injustice is an issue backed by an agenda to subjugate a social class without the power to bring justice for themselves? I just don't see it here.
" Isn't the point of a SJW to intervene where social injustice is an issue backed by an agenda to subjugate a social class without the power to bring justice for themselves? I just don't see it here. " I think you might have missed my point and how I used the term given the context of my comment. Also, the term is in parenthesis to indicate that I use it loosely and in the context of our current situation too.
I'm pretty surpised that people are down voting your comment. That game is a bit too creepy for my own liking. I enjoy gory games, don't get me wrong.. But that just doesn't seem like a good game to roll out. What will probably happen from this game, is some nut mother or father will buy this for their child who is well bellow the age limit. From there, the kid will try to replicate what is being played on the game, because he thought it would be cool. From there, a call to ban violent video games, pistols, rifles, etc... And this would only hurt the gaming industry. I've seen this happen before with other games. You remember the whole GTA crap News media cried about and blamed all violence on? Granted, GTA's campaign doesn't tell you or force you to kill people. That's the player's choice. However for this game, the campaign and objective is to kill the innocent. Thoughts? (serious discussion)
Nothing to get worked up about. This is nothing new. In the 90s there was Postal and Carmageddon, etc. Not sure why people are suddenly shocked over this kind of thing.
Postal is exactly what came to mind.
I thought of Carmageddon.
This game should exist. All art should exist, whether or not you agree with it.
Censorship is legitimately the worst thing we can do. It's better to have it and say "Yeah, that happened, let's all get over it and move on" as opposed to pretending it doesn't exist or trying to shut it down. Because that isn't the mature thing to do. Let the game exist, and just not support it. It's that simple.
wow, I found this trailer to be extremely disturbing. I am a strong advocate for developer freedom when it comes to video games, but this is plain ridiculous. I'm devoid of any desire to play - let alone defend - this game's right to exist. I would not let my son play this.
Looks kinda like Dead Nation only that people are running away instead of after you. I'm a big fan of dual-stick shooters so this game is right up my alley. Who cares about the animated violence as long as you have fun and enjoy the game.
This offends me!...they ripped off the Doom font! Seriously though, the only reason I'm not interested if because I don't like top-down shooters that much. That's where I lost interest.
Even the gameplay seems miserable.
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with it existing, it's just in bad taste. Whatever "problem" people have with it ends with not playing it. It'll probably be shit regardless.
My initial thought was DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN .. but I still want to have the opportunity to play this. Although, this will be another "gaming causes violence" controversy for sure -- and I won't blame the media for that. This game takes the cake.
Yeah, it's going to be hard to argue this game doesn't glorify harming innocent people.
Thousands of man hours and dozens of people wasted their time making this. Lesson 1. Know when to stop.
Not my cup of tea….
I play Violent video games, but violence alone isn't what makes them entertaining. This game doesn't look entertaining to me at all.in fact, it looks disturbing. I immediately have an urge to compare it to everyone's favorite murder simulator, gta.while GTA also allows for indiscriminate killing of innocent people, it's quite cartoony, and the quality of its other gameplay systems make it delightful. The moment I saw this trailer I was repulsed. It's weird, both games allow me to decapitate pleading npc's with a shot gun. But this one makes me sick.
i enjoy Violent games alot ...but only when Violent make sense like in God of war games or The Last of Us or RDR and few others i even have fun with GTAV Trevor sometimes but the Violent in this game "Hatred" make no sense whatsoever
That's because violence is the whole point of Hatred. Not my kind of game either. Loved Trevor in GTAV and I had a lot of fun playing him as well. His missions didn't always make a lot of sense but at least they were usually funny. The violence in TLoU was pretty much kill or be killed and I usually tried to avoid fighting as much as possible whereas Hatred seems to be just kill for the sake of killing. It also looks a lot like Postal but Postal had a ridiculous story and didn't take itself seriously. It does look like they're just trying to create controversy. This way they won't have to pay for publicity.
The violence is one thing but that may be the single douchiest thing I've ever seen. What did they forego writers altogether and simply decide to use a douchey 13yr old emo kid's diary as a guide? Who really thought that would seem dark and edgy?
using personal attacks like that just because you don't like the idea o the game is just childish, which i find quite funny considering your comment,
Personal attacks? At most you could say I'm attacking the writer and even then it's only through the quality of their writing.
I actually lol'd at the trailer. I'm surprised this game is being developed. Fox News will be all over this.
I agree, i'm always up for a little boundary pushing.
I don't see what the big problem is artist imitate and put real life stuff in there works all the time, in fact this game reminds me of postal 1.
Not for me man... I'm into violence (playing The Evil Within atm) and shock value but this shit just seems too far. Best of luck to the devs on this one they're going to need it... I think they're going to learn the hard way that the gaming community as whole isn't into gratuitous violence for no reason. Killing bad guys. Shit yes. Killing innocent people (including kids) while they're pleading for their lives? Fuck off.
I'm with ya. And I'm all for having people plead for their lives.... one my most memorable moments of Last of Us was a guy so sincerely asking for me not to kill him. Honestly, I found the narrative more disturbing than the gameplay. Many games have gameplay that allows killing innocents.
lol it's a VIDEO GAME. Innocent people get killed in GTA and a ton of other games, granted this one is a bit darker but it has a point.. the world does suck and this is probably how some people feel a lot of the time. I'd rather them take out the aggression in a video game, cause it actually does help. Sometimes I wish I could do this but I know better.. and anyone that uses video games as an excuse like they cause the violence, no.. some people know better and others are making a conscious decision. This didn't disturb me in the slightest.. or maybe I'm already disturbed haha :p
Is there an airport nearby or is that just my heart taking off? <3
Are you serious that you "sometimes wish you could do this?" I get that you "know better" but saying shit like that makes you sound bat shit nuts...
lol it might make me sound crazy but like I said I have a hatred for the world and how it runs.. and that's not even including assholes you run into everyday or people who've screwed you over to benefit themselves and leave you in the dirt. so yea, shit like that makes me want to kill people.. but I never would so.
but do you in GTA put a gun in someone mouth blow their heads off or is the theme mindless mass murder. No In others games it optional to kill npc not your objective. And it wasnt made for that. Hatred is.
I'm not sure why the author is pointing at Fox News when this is clearly MSNBC material. I didn't really have any issues with this game until in the trailer when the guy is shooting up a NYPD precinct, this blurs the line between fantasy and reality and is making a specific statement to its audience. I think this was a very distasteful move by this french developer.
What is laughable are these people that claim to be gamers who are really the ones "all over it". They are mimicking the very worst of what they are stating the press will do. As far as I am concerned, I am on this side of the line and they are all on the other side...with MSNBC and Fox. Just remember, no shooting the cops as they are always the good guys.../s.
there didn't seem to be a problem doing these sorts of think in gta, the only different is this game seems edgy Edit: they are still police and authorities in the games setting, doesn't really matter if they're real logos or not you are still killing fictional police.
Yea but in GTA they didn't use NYPD logos, they had LCPD, VCPD, and LSPD.
What a logo? Well that changes everything. The fact it is a video game with fake guns doesn't matter a bit. But logos? Now there is how we solve game induced behavioral issues.
Mass Murder Simulator...
Because it'll definitely help you learn how to murder lots of people. Wait, the news does that just fine.
I will be getting this its a video game
The content is abhorrent for sure. But I believe in a developers right to make whatever game they choose under Freedom of Speech. That trailer does seem less commentary and satire and more fantasy to me as well...but hey....just keep it out of the hands of kids.
Because Fox is the only network that hates video games... CBS, NBC, ABC, and even the BBC have been just as bad. Also, these news reports help sell the game. I'm fine with games like this. Why shouldn't someone be allowed to make whatever video game they want?
I agree with you about freedom of speech and all that but where would you draw the line? What if there was a feature in the game that allowed the main character to graphically rape children? Would this change your opinion of the game? If you disagree that this hypothetical feature should be in the game, by what measure of morality are you using to say that the devs shouldn't have that right as well under your original premise?
That's fine, too. It's a video game. I would never play it, but clearly someone would. I don't think there should be a line. Movies and books certainly don't have a line.
Awful, awful content for sure. But so long as the video game does not violate any current laws barring the depiction of child pornography, then...well...such is freedom of speech.
I am normally all for games being violent because it's just a game. I think games should be able to do most things. Like Call of Duty during some parts of the story people are able to skip certain parts of the game because they will be really disturbing but I'm fine with them being there because it progresses the story and it makes you want to get rid of the bad guys even more. But this is probably the first game that I have seen that takes it too far. Yes in games like GTA you might kill innocent people but you are not given the feeling of what it is like to do that in real life because there is no real emotion comming from the random npcs. But this game is a whole other issue. Your character who you play as says he wants to kill these innocent people and not only that these random people beg for you not to murder them in disturbing ways. This adds a whole new layer of realism that should not be the main purpose of any game. Having a scene like that could be in the storyline like once(where you get to choose if someone lives or dies) but for you to basically be put into a mass murdering simulator is just too much. What pisses me off the most is that you are probably going to see the media or church related people make out all video games to be like this when they're not. But this is the first game I think should be banned. Games should not have rape, child porn, and killing innocent people as they beg for their lifes while your character enjoys it. Those three things just go too far in my opinion. ------------------ @most comments I'm all for free speach but do you really think games should be allowed to have anything no matter how disturbing they are? If so it just shows how immature you are. No matter how fake something is it can always effect you emotionally in a very bad way or in a great way. Killing random people in gta does not really effect you emotionally unless you have never played a game before but this game is made to effect you in a very disturbing manner.
Naw, maybe waaaay back when open world games were still new and the whole GTA craze was fresh. But now this just seems a decade too late and just plain childish. I want more out of a game than just random overdose on brainless, controversial violence. This game looks like it's begging for media attention so they can get sales, the employees can get famous, shut down do to bad media press (which means exposure), put this on their resume and go wherever they like in the industry. Will not be supporting this game.
It won't just be Fox News. More liberal news outlets aren't going to like a game like this game either. This is the type of game that could cause politicians to crackdown harder on videogames
All these "killing innocent people" in a game is wrong comments is laughable. Judging by the sells, I'm pretty sure most of you have purchased a GTA title. Most people disregarded the story and missions and just killed people in the streets. Perhaps this game will be about trying to understand this nameless character to see what has driven him to this point. Idk, but what I do know is a lot of you are hypocrites.
Hey Moe-Gunz, I think people are trying to get at, is the fact that this game's campaign and objective is to kill the innocent. In GTA, yes you can run people over, shoot up anyone, but the GTA maker's never made that an objective or mission to go full rambo.
I guess as long as you're shooting gang members or police it's ok. GTA forces you to do a lot of crazy things.
They might be hypocrites but at least they're not just flat out lying. "Most people disregarded the story and missions and just killed people in the streets. " ? bullshit! i don't know where you got that information, but nobody in their right mind would agree with it.
From watching countless people play the games. They simply aimlessly ran about shooting things.
That game is a bit too creepy for my own liking. I enjoy gory games, don't get me wrong.. But that just doesn't seem like a good game to roll out. What will probably happen from this game, is some nut mother or father will buy this for their child who is well bellow the age limit. From there, the kid will try to replicate what is being played on the game, because he thought it would be cool. From there, a call to ban violent video games, pistols, rifles, etc... And this would only hurt the gaming industry. I've seen this happen before with other games. You remember the whole GTA crap News media cried about and blamed all violence on? Granted, GTA's campaign doesn't tell you or force you to kill people. That's the player's choice. However for this game, the campaign and objective is to kill the innocent. Thoughts? (serious discussion)
Does no one remember Postal? Should be fun.
I played that a lot, this seems quite a bit darker though. Maybe because it looks more real and from what he says at the beginning he sounds like one of those nuts that go on a shooting spree at a school and kill themselves.
Honestly the premise comes off as satire to me. Metal hairstyle? Check. Trenchcoat? Check. Edgy speech about hating humanity? Check.
This really doesn't look that interesting. The shock-value is so contrived it's laughable. The trailer depicts the barest of plots and the gameplay doesn't look like anything special either. Nathan Explosion going sickhouse on a bunch of unarmed civilians doesn't sound like a compelling gaming experience. Shooting unarmed civilians is about as interesting a challenge as hunting domesticated cattle would be. I'm also almost positive that every "edge-y" thing about this game exists only to elicit negative press and build up free public awareness about what will be a sub-par game.
Nathan Explosion! How did I not see that? That's a good one.
Hatred - A training guide for your local schools massacre..
This game looks almost as if it has been created from the ground up to bring bad press onto the video games scene. Come to think of it though there are movies like Natural Born Killers that are based on mindless slaughter of innocents but because movies have been around longer than video games people just shrug it off. Unfortunately it seems like video games are still going through that 'rock and roll is music from satan' phase.