As #GamerGate continues to stir up controversy both within and beyond the gaming community, plenty of female gamers have spoken up in support of the movement. A panel of female gamers joins us to discuss what they really think #GamerGate is about.
They make powerful points! Well done for fighting for us gamers!
Yes they do! Wicked video! Why is NeoGaf, a forum being singled by Jennie Bharaj though? Also sorry if this comment goes against the crux of this topic, but some of those women were cute. Btw, I haven't been following this too closely because, this whole issue just seemed to be overblown to me but watching this video, I'm starting to realise how big the issue really is.
Neogaf's owner refuses to allow discussion of pro-gamergate, going so far as to ban members and insult them for talking about it.
Jennie Bharaj does fantastically in summing up the points. As do the other women including Jenna. They basically say that the gaming media are calling GamerGate an attack on women. But these three passionate and articulate gamer women say this is dishonest and it is to deflect from criticism of corruption by mainstream media.
They are the holy trinity of gamergate
Not sure how to read that. Can you expound? Are you saying they are the ones that are screaming "Mysogyny?" They certainly don't seem to saying that, rather they are arguing that there is too much cronyism in gaming reviewers and developers. Jemma: "It isn't about mysogyny. Gamers do not hate women." BTW, the interviewer is terrible. Ugh. He keeps trying to make it something it isn't.
What? I mean they as in the 3 women supporting gamergate on Hufftington Post Live.
Sorry. I mean, how do you define #gamergate? According to these three women, it is about terrible journalism and reviews that are not accurate. They further claim that it is being hijacked by people trying to push their own ideologies (ie misogyny, minority representation in games, etc.) So for them, it is terrible journalism and bad review practices and you are applauding them for their efforts? Correct?
And you problem with that is...?
At Godmars...what? I ask someone to clarify what he means by expounding on it and your response to me doing so is "And you[r] problem with that is...?" A) The question as part of the discussion of the video was aimed at Wacky. He answered. B) Problem? This question makes no sense, especially after I already explained my stance above.
That IS what it's about.
Come on Godmars wtf? The chap asked a legit question and you respond like that? Ffs... @thorstein Yeah I'm kinda new to this whole Gamergate thing too. Was gonna ask the same question.
"According to these three women, it is about terrible journalism and reviews that are not accurate. They further claim that it is being hijacked by people trying to push their own ideologies (ie misogyny, minority representation in games, etc.)" You pretty much summed up GG, yet seemed to no understand it. While militant feminist pushing Marxist ideologies into gaming is a bigger problem, inserting transparency into gaming media would at the very least make that effort harder. Stop them from blackballing devs who don't want to be controlled by them as well as protect others. It may also clear up other issues like buggy games being given passing glowing reviews or lead to the report of 40k online accounts. As is however, we have to work at just being heard over all of the sexist claims and death threats. @Septic: Reader's Digest version (2 min): https://www.youtube.com/wat... Dinner special: (20+ min/multi-part): https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Stop putting GATE at the end of every issue please.
Other pedantic points include: Don't end words with "aholic". Steampunk and other words should not end in "punk" as they do not include the "punk" aspect of the original "cyberpunk" rules. There was no trigger warning on this video.
I don't even know what Gamergate is, because the "gate" part looks so pretentious that i don't think that it deserves my time. If you could explain it to me, without the use of words such as gate and rhododendron, it''ll be all good and i'll listen?
Using the word "gate" as a suffix is a linguist tic denoting a wide-reaching scandal. It originated during the Nixon era where agents working for Richard Nixon infiltrated the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in the Watergate hotel. More information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
It works here because it's about corruption.
Yeah but it isn't in the Gamergate hotel. It's probably in a fooking PREMIER INN!!!
Attn: Media. Please stop interviewing trolls like Anita Sarkeesian and start interviewing women like Jennie Bharaj, Georgina Young, and Jemma Morgan.
Just because they're female doesn't stop them from supporting GG. I'd say those who do probably have their head installed correctly. Pretty much anything the anti-GG supporters come up with, is unable to sustain a counter. It's such a weak foundation they base their arguments on. That's why certain unmentionable names have no interest in talking about it, because they know their points aren't going to hold.
Related: Karen Straughan's "Anita and the Scourge of the Girl Gamer" https://www.youtube.com/wat... I find it interesting that this panel was all female. Because that is something Karen also has discussed in the past, whether men can have opinions of themselves. (much longer: https://www.youtube.com/wat... )
The video that Huffington Post did the day before this one did contain two men that supported/somewhat supported GamerGate. Unfortunately, the way I've been examining it is that the only way GamerGate at the moment can push any point about journalism ethics is to only get females talking about it due to the heavy accusations that the movement is some sort of sexist and misogynist movement by its detractors.
here are a few #gamergate gals who kick ass and everyone should follow on twitter https://twitter.com/jayd3fo... https://twitter.com/QueenyM... https://twitter.com/Rinaxas https://twitter.com/lizzyf6... https://twitter.com/theneko...
As someone who has been following this interesting movement for the past 2 - 3 months, THIS is a very focused message from what GamerGate was originally about (before getting sent into a tailspin from the recent mainstream media and gaming websites that don't want to fix their code of ethics who like to argue that it's *just* harassment and misogyny). Either way GamerGate is a lot to take in, and has a ton of history and stories and information over the past two months, and this is a good video that finally doesn't say "Look at these sexist gamers send death threats". Well done to those people in this video *salute* As GamerGate hits mainstream news this week, I'm wondering if its message of ethics in gaming journalism can actually be kept in focus or if it will be destroyed by the argument of it just being a bunch of misogynists... Either way, I DO support the fact that I want to see gaming journalism be kept ethical and just simply good.
That is what the media is trying to do right now, MSNBC leading the pack but time will tell if it is successful. I hope it falls flat.
The story hitting the mainstream press, is the right to carry guns into a event that had threats, killing innocent women using guns and other kind of weapons . Also the mainstream press is guilty of reporting news that is controlled by rich evil corporations . So i do not think the mainstream press cares about payola reviews (opinions) of video games.
Thank you!!! This is exactly what people need to know.
Those girls were amazing. That host kept trying to derail the conversation and kept bring up the accusations of misogyny and those girls kept knocking it out of the park and bringing it back to journalistic integrity. I'm surprised they brought these gamergate girls on at all because huff post are very left wing. They've brought out a number of feminists articles filled with misrepresentation, intellectual dishonesty and out right lies and they always never get to other side to the story when it comes to feminist issues.
The problem resides in feminism and ethics.The two dont go together,you have to be open minded and stay away from ideologies because u get narrowminded.Its better to focus on ideas instead.Also its a journalist gate dont blame the trolls,trolls give journalist a job to begin with.My advice is get your head out of the gutter and start making good games instead of taking the easy road.If you cant, go learn an other job jeez.And finally as a guy to all feminazis out there stop leaking your pms allover my internet period.You wanna be treated as equal stop bitching about it and do something usefull (knitting,cooking,mopping) ).Harassment and misogyny in games please gtfo .Go to oprah instead.To the rest of the non feminist ladies youre welcome to gaming anytime and if you play nice we play nice plain and simple ofcourse we will tease the f*** out of you but you do the same to us in real life so equality attained...goodnight
that host is a bit of a dingbat... the tantrum he threw because they wouldn't address his stupid question about equality in the industry (which has nothing to do with the subject at all) after they had all (repeatedly) said misogyny is not what the movement is about was pretty facepalm-inducing. interviewee: "gamergate is not about misogyny" host: "right... getting back to feminism, though..." interviewee: "again, it's not about that..." host: "okay... but tell me about feminism..." interviewee: "for the third time, that's not the issue." host: "sure... but... what about feminism?" interviewee: "*sigh*"
Ugh... I don't get it. In Bayonetta, you play a strong, female character that happens to be sexy. Guess what. People like that actually exist in the world. At no point is the game saying, "Hey look! This is how all women look and act!" So why are people getting mad? It makes no sense.
Because Bayonetta doesn't conform to specific ideals, the game get's knocked. Its that simple.
dont get it. everyone knows bayonetta is totally make believe. look at all the "real women" on craigslist, they look nothing like her
Thanks for posting this!
Dear feminists, keep your rape fantasies away from my games and gaming journalism. #gamergate ftw
Yea maan let the ladies speak their minds ! They can whatever they want and stuff !.......... Helloooo Jennie from Vancouver.
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