Could Gran Turismo 7 on PS4 Be Open World Like Forza Horizon 2, but Closer to a Simulation?

One of the most widespread elements of the games of this new console generation is the open world. While graphics, bells and whistles evolved only up to a certain point, open worlds have spread far and wide thanks to the improved asset bandwidth and memory of the PS4 and Xbox One.

Very little is known about Gran Turismo 7, and Giuseppe Nelva from DualShockers dreams a bit by exploring its possibilities as an open world game.

[qwerty676]

idk, but i do think open world racing games will become more prominent and we'll see circuit racers not die but dwindle down.

[JP1369]

I really hope you're wrong, because I'm not a fan of open-world racers. The track design is rarely ever as focused as you see in circuit or point-to-point racers. Although, I guess it doesn't really matter since I prefer sims and those will remain circuit based.

[aragon]

I hope u right, because an open world gt wouldn't be gt to me anymore.

[Orbilator]

I prefer circuit racers to, but like you say its a preference thing, if they include open world and tracks, and allow you to play either or but not force you to, then i dont mind what they include in gt7, just give me my tracks :)

[NukaCola]

"Closer to a simulation"?

When has GT not be 100% a simulation? If not the most realistic sim racer around.

[guitarded77]

I don't think Sony would change the GT formula. People expect GT to be GT. If Sony wanted an open racer, they would do a new IP like Drive Club.

[SonyWarrior]

Kaz said a while back that he was working on open world in gt5 but scrapped the idea.

[UltimateMaster]

The formula for GT works. I wouldn't change it significantly.
I'd keep all the current elements of the game as it is right now. Then, if they want to make an open-world environment, that could be a new mode to go to, maybe with some DLC.

[medman]

I would like both, actually. I would hope for both track based racing, city street racing, and open environment type racing in the next Gran Turismo. I'm really hoping they won't cram 2000 cars in and forget to include a plethora of environments to race in.

[Dee_91]

Polyphony digital can barely make a normal racing game.Unless they hire 200 more employees I doubt this would ever happen...Almost a year later and we are still missing features in gt6.The team is way too small to make a game that scale with consistent traditional jaw dropping Gran Turismo graphics.

[badz149]

Open world like Horizon? Dumbest decision EVER!

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

That and the novelty of freedom wears off pretty quickly. I played NFS Most Wanted and it was insane fun for the first 4 hours but there was really no incentive to do anything. All the cars are unlocked from the beginning, you just have to find them. Once you found your favorite cars you did all the races for them to unlock the upgrades, after that you just drove around and ticked off the cops. Gets boring quickly...

I honestly can't see GT going open world. It just doesn't fit the theme.

[Omran]

everything open world :

Football
Cars Racing
Action Adventure
Horror
RPG
Visual Novel
basketball . . . ETC

lol at these people that think every game
must be sandbox ! I don[t know why !

[bouzebbal]

i am hoping at least a map like the one from GT4 PS2.
I am also hoping there aren't that many loadings between races and if they could do it more dymanic it would be great.
GT7 will be a massive game for PS4 and that's why GT games always benefit from an extra care. can't wait to see a trailer cause that game will blow minds

[SolidStoner]

DAKAR! How much open world is that?? lol :D

I would love GT engine in DAKAR game.. that would be epic on PS4.. :D those sand dunes and deserts... insane views! there is no more open world than DAKAR RALLY RAID!

[PX54]

@NukaCola
As much as I like GT, it's more of a simulation than Forza but it's not a full simulation. Just beacuse you can modify the settings of the car, doesn't make it a Sim.
Until recently there wasn't even damage or the ability for cars to come off the road (i.e. flip or jump)
It was the closest thing to a full Sim on consoles for a while but it's never been 100% Sim.

That being said I think the line in the title - "Open World Like Forza Horizon 2, but Closer to a Simulation?" - means that GT7 would be open world like FH2 but more of a Sim than FH2 is.

[nX]

I hope GT never goes open world... open world racing games are boring if you ask me. Driving around in GTA is fun because of the living city... pure racing games can't replicate that. The only open world racer I truly enjoyed from start to finish was Burnout Paradise and I played almost every game in this subgenre.

[Retroman]

GT-need-to-be-GT......just-as- NFS-suppose-to-be-NFS-but-we-g o t-instead-Burnout-engine-in-NF S .
NFS-used-to-be-about-circuit, s print,drag-racing-now-it-is-al l -open-world-find-me-if-you-can - racing./NFS-should-never-becam e -open-world....sales-dont-lie,

[GribbleGrunger]

Where is the driving skill in just cutting straight through a winding road and ignore the need to decelerate, brake, change gears, find the right racing line, accelerate out of a corner and then hope another driver isn't so skilled? A true racing game tests your ability to react correctly. Even a five year old child could hold a button and drive straight. GT needs to stay just as it is.

[Software_Lover]

The driving skill is knowing when to brake, decelerate, change gears, and turn properly so you don't hit a tree or spin out of control.

[GribbleGrunger]

Of course ... that's why all major professional racing is on tracks. Obviously they're not skilled enough to go off road.

[opoikl]

I bet that amateur Vettel would get his F1 stuck on the first speed bump in the road.

[Charybdis]

Dakar style races need allot of space having off road races everywhere simply isn't really possible in real life, esspecially in crowded environments. Either way track racing has it strong points but so does offroad racing.
I would advise trying the demo with offroad racing, it isn't simply driving in one straight line, though could be possiblility I guess for some parts of the races if damage is turned off.

[GribbleGrunger]

To me, if I wanted to jump in a car and race anywhere, I'd buy GTA5.

[Software_Lover]

No that's not what I meant, and I'm pretty sure you know that. It takes just as much skill not to kill yourself in off races as it does in track racing. Even though, you could say in real life, off road racing is still track racing.

[Sayai jin]

I mean come on..a video game does not test anyone driving skill. I could be the very best gamer of racers, but hat would have not prepared me to be doing 285 KM on the autobahn.

On topic, GT only needs to be GT...a great racing sim. It will stay true to it's elements.

[Dee_91]

@Sayai jin
umm, gt academy? The winners are pretty much dominating racing right now too.

I would like open world as a feature.I'm not sure about huge open fields.. I personally don't see how small areas with large fields can take away from the overall difficulty... Driving offroad actually take more skill then driving on road...I take it you guys don't play online and see all of the willow spring and streets of willows rooms? Those tracks have open fields you can just cut across.Its not always about testing your skill, its also about having fun.. which why it would be a nice feature.. I will always prefer circuit racing though.Nothing to do with testing driving skill, but because I love a good racing circuit.

[C-H-E-F]

Long ago, he said that GT5 was going to be open world, but because of the dev time and delays they cut it. I wonder why they didn't put it in GT6 so it's possible to be there in GT7 doesn't matter to me...I love GT regardless.

[Dee_91]

I think he said something about an C-Spec in gt5 coming in an update to introduce an open world, never the entire game being open world.

[FITgamer]

I wouldn't minde if they made an open world spin off for the casual market, but keep the original GT a true sim.

[Retroman]

hope-open-world-racing-dwindle -down
bring-back-circuit,drag,sprin t-racing.

open-world-racing-is-what-kil led-off-NFS..IMO.

Criterion-2-games-and-Ghost-g ames-Rivals.
open-world-is-not-for-every-r ace-game.
if-by-chance-Gran-Turismo-hit -open-world-that'll-be-a-s a d-day-for-all.

[Kayant]

Well as long as they branch off the series like Forza horizon and GT7 is a track sim racer it should be fine but I don't see long term fans of Gran turismo accepting GT7 as a open world racer or even having open-world/area aspects to it.

[qwerty676]

something i think evolution studios should have done

i mean Sony has GT already for a track sim exclusive racer. But then they waste another of their studios developing the same thing?

i have to ask why. Use Evolution to develop an open world racer or motocross or wipeout bringing a different experience.

I mean One of the things FH2 seems to have done is appeal to none racing fans because its not a generic track racer. and thats what i feel like Driveclub should have been.

[Orbilator]

sorry double post

[Orbilator]

i gonna disagree with you there quicktim3

i think DC is all about the social aspect and team racing, GT7 is all about the sim,

I think they can both co exist, and both are day 1 for me.
FH2 is defo the best racer on xbo but thats not saying much when you look at what it pushed out. Still a great game though

[Outthink_The_Room]

I agree. DC should have been open world if they were going to do one. GT in an open world would be awful. You need a significantly less sim and more arcade to do open world.

DC, even though it's not as arcadey as it should be, could have been the answer to Horizon.

GT7 will never be an answer to Horizon. It's DNA is going head to head with Motorsport.

Also, the announced social stuff for DC is very similar in alot of ways to the Horizon online stuff. Drivatars are one thing regarding social, but the Horizon 1000 player Car Club is much more akin to DC.

Maybe Sony is banking on NFS and The Crew for their open world racing? I don't know, I never saw a reason for DC when you have arguably the most prolific racer in gaming at your disposal.

[blackbeld]

FH2 is nothing new Burnout Paradise has years ago the open world racing and it s***.

I want to race not driving 30.min back to the track and start the race again. Luckily they changed that in later patches. Burnout is still great game but not as great as GranTurismo.

[Daz]

IT be cool but i find it hard to believe this. Time will tell.

I thinks fans will be split if they go open world but then again they could have both in the game.( drive to the track day or something)

[kratoz1209]

I prefer racing on the circuits

[DougLord]

Wow 1st time Ive heard a Sony/GT fan say they want GT to mimic FH2. Shows how good of a game it is.

[Sonyslave3]

FH2 has set the bar high for racing games.

[Orbilator]

its raised the bar for racing games on the xbo, but thats all.

[hello12]

Orbilator@ it got 9's in the ratings for a reason the game has everything you want.Does it really matter the game is for x box 1.

What makes you think Sony and its studios will do any better? If Driveclub can get rating of 9/10 then you can talk.

[GameDev1]

yeah right *rolls eyes*

@KNWS

So does that mean Shadow of Mordor has set the bar for rpg open world action games or Velocity 2X set the bar for indie titles?

To set the bar, Forza Horizon 2 has to offer something other racers would want to have. As far as I know, no other racer this gen really follows the Horizon 2 approach.

The original Forza and Gran Turismo has set the bar for their future iterations

[opoikl]

I don't think any true GT fan wants a FH clone instead of what we've come to know and love of the franchise. It would be better to state that we wouldn't mind seeing a game like FH2 on PS4. I would buy it along with GT7. There's more than enough room in my racing heart for both a track-based sim and an open-world, more casual and fun-centered racing game.

[InTheZoneAC]

as slow as PD is releasing games I don't know if an open world game would feel complete or actually "open"

I feel like they're this small team full of OCD, and it's like they refuse to expand to get more done in the same time.

With their huge inventory of cars, you'd think MOST would have full interiors.

I see quality games like Forza gets constant releases, but we see one release every 5 years it seems.

I like PD's quality a lot, just wish it was a 2 wait between installments with a noticeable jump for each game.

[BlingBlaine]

I agree, its the time between new versions that kills/killed PD.
If they had an "open world" to build it wouldnt be ready till xmas of 16!

Project cars has officially stole my heart, GT has gone flat and PCars is launching at the perfect time. GT finally has competition. Hope PD can actually produce in a timely manner this gen. One game per gen just doesnt cut it.

[opoikl]

One game per gen isn't enough alright, but that doesn't mean I'm not excited to see what PD has in store for Gran Turismo 4 on PS4..

[porkChop]

As long as they keep the sim-ish feel of the cars and handling, and don't half ass the open world, then I'm all for an open world GT spin off game.

[elazz]

Nah, won't happen unless there is a separate mode where you can just freely try out your car. Just give me all the circuits from 6 and a couple more in great quality. Monza, Nurburgring, Tsukuba, Francorchamps and many more just have to be in and cannot be replaced with an open world.

[chikane]

yes please let me take a Ferrari 458 into a corn field. would love gt to become that..

[JEECE]

I wish they would have let Evolution do an arcade open world racing game, rather than another circuit racer (Driveclub). Maybe Driveclub will be good, but with GT in Sony's stable, I would have rather seen something different from their other racing studio.

[BitbyDeath]

Nah, I want Motorstorm next.
Lunatics Unite!!!

[WeAreLegion]

"let"?

Evolution wanted to make the game like this. I bet we'll see a new Motorstorm after this though.

[BG11579]

Open world would be good, but if they do it simlike, most of the cars won't be able to go off road. Hell, the cars would have to stay on the roads...

[WheatBread]

Sony should create their own cool GT spinoff like Forza Horizon. Forza Horizon is like drinking a nice cold beer relaxed on the couch after a long day at work.

[Outthink_The_Room]

That's what Driveclub should have been in my opinion. Two track based racers with similar attributes is not just redundant, it doesn't allow either team to branch out and do something different.

Motorstorm was very different and it allowed Evolution to be it's own kind of racer. The social aspects of DC are not enough to differentiate, especially when it's a track racer anyways.

The other thing about FM and FH is that both studios share a pipeline. DC and GT will most likely not be sharing a pipeline since both are different engines. And to me, that's probably the worst thing that could happen. Two first party teams who can't really work together, yet competing in the same genre.

[system22]

i would be completely on board with that. just take my money.

[jukins]

Ugh could you imagine how long it would take for an open world gran truismo to be made.

[level 360]

Don't think GT7 will ever go the way and be like the open world of arcade/sim/hybrid Forza Horizon 2.

Do believe though it will build/add more larger race tracks like Circuit de la Sierra from GT6 into GT7 and still keep it's race sim configuration.

[OOMagnum]

Now people want Sony to model their racing games the same as Microsoft. Shows who doing the best in the racing department.

[GameDev1]

Not people, one person, the writer above

You clearly failed to read the article

[OOMagnum]

Hey idiot read through the comments dumbass.

[akurtz]

2 insults in one comment, bravo.

[OOMagnum]

I show no respect to anyone who feels the need to talk shit, when they *assume* my comment was based on the article. When in fact my comment was based on what the gamers above me are clearly stating. Too paraphrase, they wouldnt mind seeing GT go the Forza rout and have two different kind of racers. So yea when someone talks in a condenscending tone while be wrong fuck'em. One insult in this comment, feel better. Dont start none, wont be none. Always wanted to say that lol.

[MeliMel]

Man i hope not. I like my sim racing close circuit tracks. I just dont think it would work well with GT and what it represents. I know i would probably not buy it if it went open world.

[theXtReMe1]

I wouldnt be against this, if they let players make their own point to point or circuit courses to share online. That way it appeases both hard core sim and open world arcade fans, allowing for open world exploration while also allowing for that structured feel that true sim fans love. The best of both worlds.

[Iceball2000]

I don't know if this has been mentioned but I believe it was back when GT5 came out the PD head, Kaz said that we would love to do an open world simulator with racing events that you drive too! Cool concept!

[Sokol]

Gran Turismo has always been about realism, open world I'm not sure about. It's not that kind of a racer.

[trywizardo]

and now people praising the open world racing games -_- , im tired of this site

[Richny]

I think the review scores for drive club will affect what kind of racing game GT7 will be. Especially if it score much lower then FH2.

[lsujester]

I doubt that myself. I don't see GT changing that much, because if they went open world, then they won't have a true sim to compete with the main Forza line.

Any reviews be more effect on what Evolution does next and what a potential sequel to Driveclub would be like.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Well Kaz expressed interest in GT being free roam in the past. So imo, I think it would be quite interesting because I love open world games and it doesn't hurt to have more. But please for the next GT whether its open world or not, build the cars from ground up on PS4. No PS2 imports and make every car premium.

[jhoward585]

I don't think Gran Turismo 7 would work as an open world game b/c It would probably end looking too much like FH2. I think the creativity barrier would be very difficult to break.

Personally speaking, I think Motor storm would be better suited for a open world game because of how wild n crazy Motor storm world is. The imagination and creative direction are limitless and the devs shouldn't have much trouble coming up with ideas for the next Motor storm Apocalypse game.

One idea I'd like to see in the next Motor storm game is having the option to race other players in a process of elimination race in an open world environment. The race takes place in a massive earth quake and all players have to race hard and do what ever it takes to stay alive in the race. the last players standing wins the race. That's one idea, more can be added.

[sovkhan]

Dumbest idea i've ever heard!!!

What a sim has ever got to do with an open world??? Just for the sake of it???

Open world looks like the new fashion :/ Tetris open world anyone??

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[Qrphe]

Unfortunately open-world will be the new gimmickt his gen, I cant wait to play huge worlds with generic content such as fetch quests and hunts all gen long.

[sovkhan]

For RPG/Adventure games, open worlds could be ok, if the story is not the main point of these games...

A racer is in no way concerned, it is as if somone calls for an open world for F1 racing!!!.

[Father__Merrin]

open world games are getting boring imo. too many strive to be open world

an open world sim would be terrible, although it would be a good idea to have an open world design on a test location to try out cars

[Pintheshadows]

Hahahahahaha...hahahahaha...ha hahahahaha.

No. Just no.

[itisallaboutps]

Kaz said he wanted to do something open world. Almost like a lobby where players can free roam.

If you look at it that way it is very possible.

But i just want my cars to sound amazing. Not like vacuums

[masterfox]

The only thing I'm sure is that GT7 will be criminally stunning and any other racer will look like go-karts in comparison :D

[Warghoul71]

If they could do the track thing as well as an open city type mode like midnight club that could be cool.

[KiwiViper85]

If it was open world and simulation, your car would be written off leaving the track at 200 km/h.

The 2 concepts are mutually exclusive.

[NeoGamer232]

I don't see why they would make GT open world... It is a realistic sim based on real tracks...

DriveClub is their arcade sim. GT is for real world circuits. I doubt you could "laser scan" 100's of miles of open world to make it truly realistic and fit that on anything less than 10 blu-rays...

What they should've done is ship DriveClub as an open world arcade sim...

[nix]

It will be. Kaz once said that he wants the player to be able to just roam around the city. That will be nice because sometimes i just want to drive around without racing so i boot up NFS (which still is a soulless game). GT might be little different from arcade free roams because it's a simulator to begin with. So we might have to follow the traffic rules and things like that. I, personally, would like to drive around with that kind of structure.

[TheOnlyMastrx]

Why not make an entirely new branch to the franchise, just like Forza did with Horizon. GT2 was one of the best games when I was younger, but over the years between GT and Forza Motorsport I grew tired of racing the same circuit tracks over and over. I loved Horizon, and from what I have seen on Twitch, Horizon 2 is going to be a blast as well, I love the open world, the exploration, discount signs scattered across the map, if GT makes a game like that I would definitely pick it up.

[CoryHG]

Unless your idea is driving to the track, racing on the track, then driving home. This is a stupid article that somehow got hits. Can't stand Dualshockers.

[ps5fanboy]

I hope not.

[swize]

what we need is more circuits and famous road tracks like Isle of Man , those touge roads in Japan .

[Azzanation]

It wouldn't work. FH2 basically is FM but they made it a simcade so it would work with the open world. Unless GT plans on lowering its simulation mode then I cant see it working. Imagine driving a Zonda on grass? is it going to work lol not unless you drop the realism which is what makes FH a great game but for GT it needs to compete with FM not FH. They should probably just make a completely new series like what Turn 10 did.

[ABBAJESUS]

Gran Turismo is not simulation... You guys should try iracing or rfactor 2

[ScaryMonkey]

Whatever they do it will be far far better then Forza as usual.

[PCBOX]

Why the hell GT needs to be an OW? It is a beast sim.racing game so sim games dont have to be OW other wise people get seroious problems when play the game.

I love GT.It is a very very good game cant wait for the next one.

[Thomaticus]

Let Gran Turismo be... Gran Turismo. If they want to do an open world game, then do a spin off like Forza... but honestly I'd rather see an open world Motorstorm. Where they take the festival to different locations set up crazy ass races and events. Forza Horizon reminds me of motorstorm with it's festival and parties.

[Skankinruby]

I don't even see the point of making any racer open world at all, the entire concept doesn't make sense. The only real outcome it has is making an otherwise good game extremely tedious. I really hope they don't do it.

[Angerfist]

Maybe a City where you can test Cars in Traffic, and I mean real amount of traffic and not the open world action game style.
But with PDs Work speed we may have to wait 5 more years.

[Foxmann250]

GT needs to keep their track racing like so many fans love, but I could see them having a separate mode where it's open world driving which would be pretty cool. Having both would make it one hell of a game.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

that was the original plan of the series. They just always lacked the hardware to bring it to reality. They even wanted to do it with GT5, but they just couldnt get it working.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

The original vision to Gran Turismo was to be able to drive YOUR car in the real world, in a game.

[Flames76]

So they have to copy forza horizon now?