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Welcome to the VRAM apocalypse

It comes down to how the Xbox One and PS4 are architected, and how games built for it are being ported to the PC.

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starchild3913d ago

Eh I'm not too worried about it. Most of those requirements are either inflated or are only for the ultra settings at very high resolutions.

I've been playing The Vanishing of Ethan Carter and it is one of the best looking games I've played anywhere and it is extremely well optimized and doesn't require very much VRAM. The textures in particular are out of this world. Well, actually they were made using a technique called photogrammetry which uses high quality images of real life objects to create the assets for the game. So they are very much from this world, but they look stunningly good and prove that you don't need super high VRAM requirements in order to have a fantastic-looking game.

Seafort3913d ago

Totally agree.

Ethan Carter is stunning and doesn't take much to run the game at all.

It's when you get developers that aren't familiar with PC architecture and don't make any effort to optimise for the platform that we get bloated system requirements.

It doesn't help when they use idtech 5 which is notorious for higher than average system requirements. It's just a double whammy for the PC version. It had no chance.

Shadow of Mordor is a different scenario as the medium/high settings are reasonable for an open world game. It's just the Ultra high settings that are for high end PC only which require 6GB VRAM.

hennessey863913d ago

Like you I've been playing the vanishing of Ethan carter and it does look incredible. I think it's about time developers spent more time optimising for Pc, not everyone owns a Uber rig. I have a mid range rig, AMD fx8120 clocked at 4 ghz, a gtx 780, windows 8.1 pro and I run most games 1080p 60fps but it's worrying me with the amount of games that are requiring stupid amounts of vram, I've only just got my 780 which cost me just under 400 English pounds and I don't plan on upgrading for a few years yet.

R-A-S-03913d ago

What's up with the author describing the 780 as a mid range card? Its still easily one of the top 10 gpus money can buy

Agent_hitman3913d ago (Edited 3913d ago )

I'm still waiting for the DDR4 or GDDR4 based GPUs/Videocards from AMD/Nvidia

Lon3wolf3913d ago

? GDDR5 is already on desktop graphics cards has been for years.

wannabe gamer3913d ago (Edited 3913d ago )

lol you might want to do some fact checking on that one agent

wannabe gamer3913d ago

oh no technology is advancing and causing the sky to fall.

Seafort3913d ago

This isn't technology advancing this is lazy console developers brute forcing the PC version trying to make it work like a console.

This is just one game so far that has ridiculous VRAM requirements for recommended settings.

Not sure why a lot of people are panicking.

Shadow of Mordor has reasonable requirements for medium/high just goes overboard for the optional ultra settings.

TardcoreGamer3913d ago

I feel you. What needs to be addressed is the spec recommendation system. It's not very specific and is causing consumer confusion.

The publishers for all we know could be referring to 4k when they state ultra requirements now.

wannabe gamer3913d ago (Edited 3913d ago )

so devs finally start making games that can match high end pc hardware and everyone flips out... whereas before they were flipping out cause devs never take advantage of pc hard ware fully.
plus no one here has probably(since it doesnt release till the 30th) played the game on PC with high end hardware to even be saying all the garbage like you are spewing. How about we do the sensible thing and wait and see how it performs and looks on hardware that can put it to the test. otherwise you are just talking out your ass and guessing

the only screenshot we have seen of the settings page has come from someone with a 570 and 1280 mbof vram so they sure wont be able to tell us how it runs at these higher settings.

i saw a gameplay vid from pcgamer at ultra and it looks pretty damn awesome and looked to run great also. thats as far as i know is the only footage there is so far

plus many reviews have pointed out how it seems to struggle on consoles a bit. im willing to bet that we wont see that slowdown on PC and we will also see a finer level of detail in both the obvious things and in the lod at distances too which people seem to totally ignore. it wasnt that long ago all backdrops were 2d prerendered crap. it takes a lot of resources to have a high lod at distance without a mess of fog and other tricks. console gamers dont notice those things and have no understanding how much it takes to push those extra details out.

Seafort3913d ago

@wannabe gamer

I'm not talking about Shadow of Mordor. The ultra graphics is optional. I'm totally fine with Shadow of Mordor med/high settings.

What I'm talking about is The Evil Within 4GB VRAM requirement for recommended settings. There is no optional settings here this is what you need to play the game.

So I stand by my statement that it isn't advancement but lazy developers trying to brute force the PC version with console's unified VRAM requirements.

If Tango Gameworks has taken the time and effort to optimise the game for the PC platform we wouldn't be seeing mandatory 4GB VRAM at all.

kiz26943913d ago

The problem with Evil Within is the game engine which is ID Tech 5 , which like Wolfentsien the new order, has mega textures thus the need for large ammounts of VRAM. Hopefully ID Tech 6 is more optimised, because Tech 5 just ate up yuor VRAM for unnessary reasons.

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Hold_It3913d ago

First, your name says it all. Second there is no point to require overly dramatic specifications in order to run a console game at console equivalent graphics. It's called bad programming, like Dead Rising 3 on PC.

DougLord3913d ago

Author is clueless. This has nothing to do with Xbox/PS4. This has to do with really detailed, uncompressed textures. Just look at fully nodded Skyrim. It needs 3gb+. Trust me I have 2x5870 and while I have the grunt of a 7970 ghz edition, I can't run Skyrim in Ultra due to 1gb of VRAM. I get like 1FPS. Nvidia and AMD knew this was coming and have been putting 3/4/6/8 gb on their new cards, but people ripped them for it. 8 core CPUs are also going to become more useful for gaming. Get ready.

wannabe gamer3913d ago

you are using too much logic for the crowd here man

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10 Years Later, Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Is Still The Perfect Blueprint For The Franchise

Released on September 30 2014, Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor is 10 years old today, and it's still the best blueprint for the LOTR franchise.

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No Way256d ago

Honestly, just a fantastic game/series (aside from the blunder of Microtransactions/grinding). The system with the orcs was amazing.. which it would be implemented in more games.

IAMRealHooman256d ago

Supposed to be working on a wonder woman game with the nemesis system

CosmicTurtle255d ago

They patented the system, sadly. What that means legally I am not sure. But people don’t want to test the water.

Flewid638256d ago

Shadow of Mordor > Shadow of War

Abnor_Mal256d ago

I loved Mordor, while War I stopped playing half way through.

Flewid638255d ago (Edited 255d ago )

I feel you bro. The experience got better once I tried it on PC, but I'm still probably only going to finish the Galadriel DLC and not the main campaign.

ravens52255d ago

Me too lol. I beat Mordor, never beat War lol. I have it though so I could always go back and play it. I genuinely think the time will come that I can beat my backlog. Maybe when I hit the lotto and can just play video games all day, on my yacht.

Luc20256d ago

Such a good game. Also a fairy easy platinum.

Juiceid255d ago

Now THIS is a game I’d like to see a remake of!

glennhkboy255d ago

This game convinced me to buy a new console. There was a huge difference between the previous gen (Xbox360/ PS3) & the latest gen (Xbox One/ PS4) . The Nemesis System was only available in Xbox One/ PS4 . That was how a generation shift should be.

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10 Open-World Games That Feel Empty After Just A Few Hours

Unfortunately, the open worlds in games like Middle-Earth: Shadow of War, Halo Infinite, and the original Assassin's Creed do more harm than good.

MadLad712d ago

I legitimately loved Halo's switch to open world. They made traversal of the map entertaining, and everything involved just tied into the (what I consider) awesome gunplay.
The entire time I really felt the slow takeover of the map, and all the little steps forward felt satisfying.

I don't know what more people really want there, considering the setting and story. A handful of soldiers hunkered down on enemy territory; slowly trying to win the battle.

giovonni711d ago

I agree I liked the switch to the open world, it was large with beautiful land scapes. However, it did feel a bit empty, and wasn’t as action packed as I would have liked. A lot of the bases felt like fillers instead of something of wonder. Let’s see what 343 under new management does from here cause Halo needs some updating

archibold711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

I'm surprised they scrapped the Slipspace engine. I thought the graphics looked great, the sandbox physics were as good as ever, and the AI worked well. Clearly a lot of work went into it and it appears to have been optimized for the new generation of GPUs. The only issue I had with it was the lack of environments, would have been cool to have different biomes on the ring to explore. A bit more variety in missions would have been nice, maybe some timed events where you have to manuever a banshee through forerunner architecture or some mongoose speedruns would have spiced things up.

CrimsonWing69711d ago

I think R* are the only ones who have made compelling open worlds. I can’t stomach most open world games and how boring they are with busy world. It’s like a flex to make this massive environment, but it’s extremely boring to traverse and play in. GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2 blew me away with how incredible their worlds were. Elden Ring was the only other game to give me that sense of awe.

giovonni711d ago

GTA V and unfortunately, Saints Row the original have had some of the most aggressive open world features where the world doesn’t feel so bland. To me what makes GTA V so special is the way the characters react to the world around them vs how the world reacts to them. For example, in GTA when you switch to Franklin and he walked past an attractive female he responded “ damn you fine” or in Saints row you can run up in the pawn shop flash a gun and watch them respond by raising their hands in the air, or they press the silent alarm making you have to run away from the cops. Halo infinite doesn’t have those kind of moments that make you feel apart of the world it just feels like it’s there.

bloop710d ago

Trevor talking to random vegan npc: "You suck c*ck, but you don't eat meat.... It don't make sense to me "

Classic. Such a shame we won't get that humour again now that R* have gone all in on virtue.

Abear21711d ago

AC Odyssey with the next gen patch is pretty incredible, especially if you like a sea shantie. Lol.

Abear21711d ago

I’m back on an open world kick after Horizon. I don’t know what clicked in me but exploring the map and seeing the detail work has me loving open worlds again. Playing AC Odyssey on hard and really enjoying it and the map. Reinstalling RDR2 tonight because damn, that map is just incredible for sightseeing.

Sonic1881711d ago

Halo Infinite felt off. It's like the developers didn't know what they really wanted to do

Demetrius711d ago

Depends on which open world titles u play, most of em are shitty AF, but I honestly admire open world genre, sometimes to just take a break from fighting and missions you explore n see details you haven't noticed before cause you were too busy body at first, then boom finding some dope equipment or things to sale

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10 Mediocre Bosses in Great Games

GF365: "Most games are not perfect and that may be because of a character or an enemy. Here are 10 mediocre bosses in great games."

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Chriswheeler22859d ago

The Pursuer from Dark Spuls 2 was great, I think the author just sucks at games.

philm87858d ago

The Godskin Duo is a great fight