WTF Bungie? Where's The 500 Million At In Destiny?

CraigheadPro And LUGO Entertainment discuss where the 500 million dollars went when developing Bungie’s Destiny. Apparently it wasn’t put in the graphics or content. It’s clearly not exactly a standard MMO. Me And LUGO are seriously wondering just what happen over there Bungie?

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Intentions1550d ago

Pretty sure the 500 million was for the whole franchise not on one game.

qwerty6761550d ago

this, and a lot of that is for marketing.

bouzebbal1550d ago

exactly, i think Destiny has always been thought as a franchise of X episodes. Add to the marketing campaign to that. I think we'll see one episode every second year.

darthv721550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

Wouldnt the marketing (or percentage of it) come from Sony and the deal they made for exclusive advertising?

That is something that is usually negotiated when deals are made. If Sony is fronting the ad $$ then Activision didnt have to pay anything. They are the publisher so their angle is all around promotion and sales.

Bungie is the real talent in making the game and yet they only get a portion of the proceeds. Publishers get the lions share.

sonarus1550d ago

its impressive that they recovered their investment in one day. Crazy for new ip. Its a pretty solid game though

XBLSkull1550d ago

Yep, 500M for a trilogy or more.

SilentNegotiator1550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

Just report the article as fake. The entire premise is ridiculous; they're asking, 'where did (part of the) funds, that weren't even supposed to be spent yet, go to?'

We have known that the 500m was for several games, marketing, etc for a very long time. This article has no merit.

AndrewLB1550d ago

This is what happens when private companies make the mistake of spending money in the same undisciplined way our government does.

and btw... the $500 million is for THIS game and the coming DLC. It's not for the development of a trilogy. I don't know where people got that idea.

DVAcme1550d ago

All true, plus there's also the expansions coming, not to mention the servers that had to be put up for the game. Apparently they're regional servers, cause every time I play I see loads of Puertorican players. Either there's so many that I always see some online or it's a regional server that has Puerto Rico and the Caribbean.

DOMination-1550d ago

Developers are salaried just like you and me and they'll probably fet bonuses after a successful release. The idea of them sitting on millions in reserve cash is novel but if they always work with a publisher like nearly all do then there is no need.

TThe publisher will agree a contract in advance with the developer and that will include money to pay everyone during the cycle. This is also why lots of people move after games release.

PX541550d ago

Given it's an always online game i'm guessing a lot of money went into making sure the servers could handle the pre-order sales and maybe even a few years more. Bungie would know from the success of Halo what they'd need to ensure a smooth online experience and to have this set up from launch would have cost a fair bit - rather than gradually building it up over time.

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harrisk9541550d ago

Yep... what they have positioned as a "10-year" game cycle.

redwin1550d ago

I don't see this as a 10 year game, but I would love to be proved wrong. I'll be very happy if they keep me interested until summer.

Chaoticmoon1550d ago

@Redwin The game itself isn't supposed to last a whole 10 years, the WHOLE FRANCHISE is, also Destiny could keep you busy for a bit if you pick up the expansions.

llxKonanxll1550d ago

Do we really want a game cycle for 10 years?? look how well that's turned out for COD.

kaizokuspy1550d ago


Why are you even comparing this to COD? COD is not an exploration and pvp game mixed with looting and forcing you to be social. COD is also handled by multiple developers. They don't add anything new except killstreaks. This games been out how long? When they add new subclasses, possibly a job system, new multiplayer modes, new planets, new loot, raise the level cap and what not, how will you complain? Look at Borderlands. Their DLC can be beat in 2 days or less with really no reason to replay it. Destiny's will cover a much broader scope and not everything will be paid DLC, some will just be updates that we will get for freeeeeee. More naysayers who compare to games that are Halo, COD, and other games it isnt trying to be. Destiny is Destiny. It's own game. If you want Halo, go play Halo, you want COD go play COD, you want a brand new IP with a familiar feel, good control, and fun times with your friends, then play Destiny.

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Garethvk1550d ago

Exactly. It was for marketing, design, DLC, and stuff already in the works. It should be $500 million invested in the franchise to date.

Palitera1550d ago

The lack of content is the main business-design for Destiny. It's not for lack of money that the game is so barebones. It is radically design as a DLC vending machine, that's why you only have 5 SP maps to play at through dozens of "different" missions.

And yes, we know you don't believe they spent 500 millions on this.

BlackTar1871550d ago

I disagree that this game is barebones. I'm enjoying it alot and have yet to scratch the surface of the content.

geddesmond1550d ago

I'm guessing most of that went on marketing which created all the hype for a game I haven't even played yet as I'm still waiting for the download transfer to finish. Only 76% left to go after 4 hours yay.

You would think they would let you play the game after a certain amount was downloaded like every other game this generation. But no, Bungie had to be awkward about it. This game better be good or I'm going back to buying games when they go on sale.

Scatpants1550d ago

You should have preloaded. Also, get faster internet.

geddesmond1550d ago

@ Scatpants.

My pay day at work is Thursday. Last week was the first week in a month so I had rent to pay. Pre loading wasn't a option. Secondly I have the fastest internet my area can get. Why is Destiny the only game where I have to fully download especially when the big feature this generation was not having to download games fully before playing?

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gamer78041550d ago

the paul mcartney song...

SSJBen1550d ago

No man's sky is not even a fraction of that budget and has more content than Destiny.

What a joke.

Owvi1550d ago

It'll probably have more content than most games. What's your point..?

porkChop1550d ago

No Man's Sky is entirely procedurally generated. Meaning the developers didn't do a whole lot of work creating that universe, it created itself. You cannot compare that to painstakingly creating multiple planets, maps, etc entirely by hand and from scratch.

ShowGun9011550d ago

no mans sky looks awesome, but so far, ive been dissappointed by every "procedurally generated" game ive played... you see elements repeated over and over, its like someone just quilted the would outta premade parts...

deafdani1550d ago

Sure, compare a procedurally generated game to a traditional game to make a point regarding game content.

Makes sense. Especially since No Man's Sky isn't even released yet...


SSJBen1549d ago


You're contradicting your own comment.

So the devs for No Man's Sky didn't do a lot of work, but with Destiny, Bungie has 500mil budget and numerous delays, but all we have at launch are 4 planets with the same monsters.

These planets aren't even THATTTT big to begin with either.


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3-4-51550d ago

Sensationalist article from the U.K. ? Never! lol

Bobby Kotex1550d ago

Just another ignorant article. What do you expect on the N4G front page?

Jaqen_Hghar1550d ago

IT'S A 10 YEAR PROJECT! How have people not gotten this message yet? There won't be a bunch of sequels coming or anything like that. You'll get expansions for years and years as the game expands. Bungie has been very clear on this from the start. They intended from the start for this to be a long-term deal. No Destiny 2 (at least not for awhile), no Game of the Year edition (unless they do yearly updates with the past expansions tacked on for $60), and the money went into future content and advertising of course.

Trolltroll1550d ago

Why do we have to pay for the DLC content if the 500mil was spent on future DLC. In 10 years we will not likely have even our "next gen" consoles given the average life is 6-8 years. I am down if they give the content that is missing for free. But this is Activision we will be paying for everything. I hope you are having fun playing that "advertising" they spent their mony on.

BinaryMind1550d ago

And correct me if I'm wrong, but Activision puts $100 million into marketing each Call of Duty game. They probably put the same amount into Destiny.

JsonHenry1550d ago

Marketing ate half of it I think.

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CKPan1550d ago

Franchise? DLC or Destiny 2? pretty sure they're gonna charge for those.

Muzikguy1550d ago

It's very misleading when companies talk like this. I generally don't believe it, good rule of thumb I like to go by. I haven't seen the $1billion that MS supposedly invested into games. These two examples are perfect. They say their initial amounts over a certain timeframe. That time can always change and the end result is less than what they stated it to be. I haven't seen $1B worth from MS (could be Azure and high cost of "exclusive" rights I know) and if this 10 year plan for Destiny doesn't pan out then the $500 million would be less too. They just want to talk big numbers and get people excited. Just another way to hype. I'm sure Destiny will be great, these are just my thoughts.

And off topic: this is comment #700! I'm going to remember it forever......

(What was I just doing?)

Ozmoses1550d ago

don't forget servers require money as well....

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mrpsychoticstalker1550d ago

It all went to support the marketing campaign and relationship/partnership they have with Sony.

Ron_Danger1550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

You don't have to tie a double knot to keep your foil hat in place. Seems like it's in extra tight and cutting off circulation.

Kivespussi1550d ago

Hah, Sony paid them for the partnership. This money went mostly to markering and maybe to DLC content

Gamerbeyond1550d ago

lol sony is only making money off the consoles they sell and this game will push alot of ps4's.

SnakeCQC1550d ago

I thought it was supposed to be over the cycle of this game.

philm871550d ago

Yeah people seem to miss the point that they're going to be adding a lot to the game, doing weekly events etc.

morganfell1550d ago needs to shut up. Worthless opinions from whiners do nothing form gaming. Not getting a click from me.

UnwanteDreamz1550d ago

People dont understand that the expansions arent your run of the mill map packs.

JeffGUNZ1550d ago

@ Unwanted

Exactly brother. They are worded as EXPANSIONS, not DLC that we typically get. The expansions will open up new planets, new gear, new weapons, etc. Not 4 maps from Crucible.

Dannycr1550d ago

When these "critics" say that it is not exactly an MMO I just disregard their opinions entirely.

NO ONE said this was an MMO, it was not marketed as one or even hinted as one. It just means that you:

1- Don't know what an MMO is.
2- Didn't play the beta.
3- Don't anything about game genres.

Most of these negative reviews state that the game sucks because it is not an MMO.

pinkcrocodile751550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

Sorry Danny but thats a huge amount of generalisation.

Even this site has mentioned Destiny with "A combination of both Openworld MMO and FSP" many times, you may have even quibbled over it before. I'd have a look but to be honest I'm too busy to care.

If you're going to bitchslap someone make sure you are on solid ground, which I have to point out... you are not!

That said I love Destiny, got it for my X1 and it's brilliant, I'm a slow player and take my time and I'm enjoying it.

It's not an AWESOME game in opinion but it is very good.

MysticStrummer1550d ago

It's still not an MMO. Articles and comments repeat misinformation on this site all the time. See mrpsychoticstalker above as an example.

Kribwalker1550d ago

Definitely not bungies best game. It's good, I'm level 4 now, and it does seem to be getting better, but I'll be playing a re-master of bungies best game this November in halo 2

Dannycr1550d ago

Care to explain why they use the: It's not an MMO in a negative light, then? I guess you missed the entire point of my comment. A lot of the articles talking about negative stuff are using the "it's not an MMO card" when the game was CLEARLY not an MMO and Bungie NEVER tried to make it look like one. It's you who are assuming something it's not. That's your fault, not Bungie's.

By that logic, let me accuse Mario Kart for not being a realistic driving simulator.

pinkcrocodile751550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )

@Dannycr - Calm down man, you sound like you are going to explode!

From what I've read on sites like this one, they refer to it as a quasi hybrid of mmo meets fps.


After playing it for a while I can most certainly see ELEMENTS of what they are on about.

That said, it's not one thing or another IT IS a quasi hybrid game with MMO and fps elements in it.

If YOU had to define Destiny what would you call it, how would YOU define it?

This is MY opinion, what is YOUR'S?

Dannycr1550d ago

Let me clarify two things:

1- I'm not mad. My response doesn't even have a hint of anger. You assumed I was/am mad.

2- You are still missing the point of my comment and talking about the complete opposite. What does "my definition of Destiny" have to do with the fact that people are taking score points off of the game because it's not an MMO?

A game that has "elements" of a genre does not make it THAT genre. It just has elements. So let me ask you again the question that you did not answer: why are they using the "It's not an MMO" statement in a negative light when the game was never advertised as a MMO game?

pinkcrocodile751550d ago (Edited 1550d ago )


To answer your question, I have absolutely no idea. However, if you read my previous post I said;

"After playing it for a while I can most certainly see ELEMENTS of what they are on about.

That said, it's not one thing or another IT IS a quasi hybrid game with MMO and fps elements in it. "

So as a point of fact I'm agreeing with you that the game DOESN'T fall into one category or the other.

I still have no idea why MMO's have a negative generalisation to some of the gaming media. I don't play them myself, I'm more of a platform / driving / fps kinda gamer, always have been.

To answer my question, Do you agree with MY assessment of the game?

PM me as I have filled my bubbles... and thats not a euphemism :D

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ThatOneGuyThere1550d ago

its an online FPS with features ripped from MMOs. (instances, quests, looting, parties, etc.) And its an absolute blast to play. Also, its REALLY well polished. Theres little things you notice if you're looking that just adds up to creating a very unique and immersive environment for a shooter. Walking on the moon, you can see your footprints as well as the footprints of your fireteam in the moon dust. the way the light reflects off guns, and your visor, etc. Just really great. This is my favorite game this gen, and thats even after playing a ton of Diablo 3.

ShowGun9011550d ago

destinys amazing! feel free to add me on PS4 and we can hit up the crucible!

ThatOneGuyThere1550d ago

I'm so terrible at the PVP. I need to level up some more first.

stormswrath1549d ago

Don't see how anyone can disagree with this statement. Especially the first part. The people in the video kept using the old republic and other mmos to compare destiny to but this game is not an mmo. You would think as journalists they would know that but their video just seems to be a rant for all the wrong reasons.