Xbox 720 in 2011? Count me out.

Sarcasticgamer.com wrote: "No matter what anyone wants to say about the Xbox, the bottom line is that Microsoft gave up on the Xbox after only 4 years. That's nothing in gaming years. Microsoft simply took their ball and went home, leaving fans that paid hard-earned money stranded at the carnival without a ride home. Fortunately for Microsoft, Xbox fans, in general, are a loyal lot.

Well, if Bobby Bach is to be believed, Microsoft is getting ready to do it all over again. If that's the case, count me out...

[power of Green]

I see the damage control posting tactics are picking up again. Once good Xbox news starts rolling in or not so good PS3 news so does the suggestive postings from the PS3 fanboys and media that supports Sony.

[JSA-Gamer]

The article's author was called an xbot yesterday by the N4G trolls!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA.... I guess the author can't win either way...

[power of Green]

The proof is in the trolling lowl.

[Drekken]

This is a serious issue he brings up... why is it getting marked as troll bait??

[Veryangryxbot]

MS can count him out, he says.

Dont worry, Sarcastic gamer. Youre not the only one thinking that way. In fact, out of the 19 million, more than half of these people think that way.

And out of the 60 million PS2 owners soon to upgrade, they ALL think this way.

But trust me though, you wont see a new console, be it MS or Sony, that comes out before 2013.

Maybe a nintendo system before that but no console from SOny or MS.

This is a 10 year marathon.

[Kleptic]

notice how he mentions the Xbox has a loyal bunch of fans...seriously...look at this site...you have POG, mart, Jason, getpwned (or any of his 34 alternate accounts), etc, constantly claiming anything that comes up negative about the 360 is 'sony' related...

this is a legitamate concern...not everyone's parents by them a console, POG...MS dropped support for the Xbox in much the same way that Sega dropped the Saturn...it was sucking compared to Sony's offering...So they stopped supporting it and rushed another console to the market...MS has a lot more money to throw around in bizarre ways than Sega did though...So MS is still in this race, where as Sega dropped out entirely last generation...

it all goes back to the obvious question...how the feck did MS garner such an army of loyal retards?...It sure wasn't from being loyal to them in the past...My guess is it was simply because there was a new console out, some where tired of their PS2 (and some had no choice but to upgrade if they only had an Xbox)...

MS drops support of the original Xbox in a little over 4 years...they put the next generation of owners through a tedious public hardware beta...They let hardware innovation take a back seat to keeping production costs down (of which they never shared to the public, only themselves........$179 for a 120gb HDD?...wake up idiots) They nickel and dime fans left and right, whether its paying to play online, or by forcing them to repurchase owned DLC because of the already mentioned public hardware beta...And they are in a position to most likely do the exact same thing all over again next generation...awesome...how the 360 and MS have supporters like some of you guys is absolutely beyond me...

[pimpstation]

All the pro-360/anti-PS3 news? You mean all the perfect scores for MGS4? Oh wait...

[madmike]

that ps3 owners wont to keep there console for 10 years they only just got games as xbox360 owners like me are ready for a more powerfull console and halo 4 to go with it thanks ms

[Bladestar]

2011!? that's 6 years lifespan!
the average console life span is 5 years! I don't want to be playing a freaken 6-7 years old console.. specially when looking at the kind of games the PC will have 2-3 years from now... what a bunch of losers... you are telling me you can't save $399 in 6 years!? maybe you should not be playing video games... when one considers that a single game cost $60 ... own 10 games and you already spent $600! not to mention spending that or more on electricity a year.. just for playing a game.

get a PS2 instead!

[JSA-Gamer]

What about people that just bought the console? Are they going to have to give it up in two or three years when Microsoft pulls the plug? Use your brain.

[Wildarmsjecht]

Did you read the article?
"Sure, if the next, next-gen Xbox is launched in 2011 it will be six years from the 360’s launch, but what about people that aren’t early adopters? There’s a lot of us out there that didn’t buy an Xbox 360 until 2006, or 2007, or even more of us out there that still haven’t purchased the console yet. What about us, Microsoft?"

I think it more entails those who have yet to buy a 360 and are waiting either for more of a price drop, more games, and some of the past good games to become bargain based. In this economy state, having a game hobby is in fact very expensive no matter what platform you choose. PS2 didn't pick up a crapton of its sales till 3 years in its lifetime when it was lower priced, had the Greatest Hits lineup and more games were out. For you early adopters, you're fine with shelling out 4-600 (It may very well be higher than 400 Balde) on launch or soon after that. But for others who can't afford, and have to wait, bringing a new system out 6 years after your other one dropped is more like 2 years for them. If it were you, would you be happy if MS brought out a new system 2 years after you bought yours?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Agreed Bladestar. 6 years is plenty and is actually a year longer than the avg. console life span.

I don't think MS will drop support for the 360 like the original Xbox because they took steps this gen to make sure they own the innards and can continue to sell it like a PS2.

Maybe this author should just stick with a Wii or a PS3. I will be ready for new tech in 2011. I just hope MS doesn't go in the direction like the Wii did this gen but instead goes for high end tech specs so we can see games like that AMD Cinema 2.0 tech demo.

Tech moves at a fast pace, if you can't keep up then maybe you need a new hobby? I don't see people whining at iPOD for coming out with a new version every year or how about the iPHONE which is coming out with a new model every year and they are $200 cheaper with better features. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

@1.4: Fair enough, I think people just assume that MS will completely drop the Xbox 360 like the did the Xbox1. But with a little research you can see why MS dropped the Xbox1 and how they learned from that mistake this gen.

[Wildarmsjecht]

I can see your point for early adopters, for the late ones who couldn't particularly afford it but would like it, I'd feel for them.

As for Apple products, I really don't get why people continue to buy the newer versions that came out 6 months after the other one. It's one of the many reasons I don't support Apple ipods,phones, or macs. (macs mostly for the user interface)

[DarK-SilV]

Look at mr. richy rich up there...that was funny

[Silellak]

It's funny how the average lifespan is 5 years, and 2011 would be 6 years, yet people are whining "what about the late adopters who would only have the 360 for 2 or 3 years?"

How come that's only relevant when we're talking about the 360 and Microsoft, and not another console or company? When someone else does it it's okay, but when Microsoft does it they're screwing people over?

Please. That's a load of bias crap. Typically, the longer you wait to get a product, the cheaper it is, but the shorter its lifespan. Such is the way with technology. Deal with it.

[Wildarmsjecht]

Haven't seen the cynical side of you, or you for that matter for awhile now. How ya been.

But relating to what the article is mostly talking about, is whether or not MS would bring out a new product in 2011, and stop supporting the 360.

Since you assume that "OMG SONY DOES IT ITS OK, MS DOES IT ITS BAD SILLY FANBOYS", I just want to point out that Sony didn't stop support for the PS2, in fact, it's still getting support. Some 3rd parties like Capcom stopped, but not all and not first parties. If MS stopped support like the Xbox (Which may not happen considering they are in fact wiser this gen) then it would be a fault against them and only them. Yes, technology gets cheaper, but at the same time, things still get more expensive. who knows how much cheaper the 360 will be by '11. Who knows how the economy will be. Till we do, the late adopters who want to try and catch up and still get some of the new games out for the 360 would be shafted if support dropped, was slowed considerably, and a newer, better system was out.

[fenderputty]

One of the benefits of console gaming, is that you don't have to upgrade your hardware often. It's one major thing that separates console gaming from PC gaming. As a console gamer, I don't want to upgrade often.

Still ... 6 years is a good amount of time. As long as they don't just drop the console like the original.

If they don't drop the console, then the actual life of the 360 would be longer then 6 years anyway. I don't see this as a bad thing.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Think about it, it isn't like last generation when games were coming out left, right, and centre. It isn't about Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo it's about the whole generation moving a lot slower. In two years time I know for sure I won't be getting any next generation console. I'll only think about it around the 7 - 10 mark and that's about it.

Last generation people were begging for a new console and since you can do so much with these consoles, why get another in two years. I honestly think the Nintendo Wii will age the fastest just based on the software (games). The more you can do with the console besides gameing will make a lot of buyers wait a lot longer. Last generation their were no movie rentals, online stores, online 3D communities, HD (High Definition) downloads...etc. With that alone will last me let alone the games themselves.

The next consoles would have to really impress me besides graphics other wise it makes no point upgrading, if my current console can do the same. This is what will hold people back what can it do that my last console won't offer?

The best analogy I can come up with is buying a console is like buying a house. Once you make the investment it will be hard for you to convince me to move out within 5 years if everything I need is in this location.

[juuken]

...o_o
Your comment made absolutely no sense as usual.

[Wildarmsjecht]

good point. Consoles this gen do more than game. They allow movie and music download, internet capabilities, alot of cool things.

[khsmooth]

....but the scenario that this article points out as problematic for consumers buying the 360 late into the life cycle is quite the same as the PS2 to PS3? The PS2 launched in 2000 and the PS3 came out in 2006 unless I've mistaken and the PS2 came out in 1999. However if the former is the case wouldn't it be the same and I don't think people had any real gripes with the transition from one to the other...well cost was the one gripe but most people looked forward to the launch of the PS3 after 6 years.

[ericnellie]

The real question isn't when or if they launch a console in 2011 -- the important thing to look at is, if they do launch a new one, will they contunie to support the 360. Sony still has PS2 support and it's still selling well...I think if M$ did the same thing, it wouldn't be too big a deal.

[Monchichi025]

This guy is saying 2011 will be to soon for all those people who have just recently bought a 360 or are yet to buy one. You my friend ARE NOT EARLY ADOPTERS!!! And you expect us to believe that you would become early adopters for next generations??? LOL PLEASE!!! You peoole would wait an extra 3 years regardless and buy one in 2014. That's 6 FREAKIN years!!!
I'm hoping for a new 360 in 2010 and so are all true early adopters!!

[Bladestar]

Rich me? nahh... but I do not have to wait for my parents to give me a game console like many of you.

"What about people that just bought the console?" what about the people that just purchased a PS2? use your brain... how come Sony is not spending lots of money making new games for those people? yeah true.. sony is still manufacturing the hardware.. but where is the software support?

there will always be people buying the previous console... if the PS2 drops to $49 it would sell more than the PS3... but why isn't Sony having all their deverloper making PS2 games?

The only reason why Sony is selling PS2 is because they profit from it... but they are not supporting it as far as software is concern..

Microsoft obviously couldn't do that since they don't even have ownership of some of the hardware on the orignal xbox... now the xbox 360 that's not the case... microsoft have control of all the hardware unlike the original xbox.. and they will continue to produce hardware even after the next xbox 720... do you know why? use your brain losers... because it is and will be profitable... ohh and the next xbox will have backward compatibility... again for obvious reasons.. microsoft was involved in the development and design of the CPU and GPU hense they can add it to the next xbox...

yes, the xbox 360 will be like the PS2... sold even after xbox 720 comes out... now how about software? the obvious... just like Sony did... shift all their developer into the next xbox 720... some 3rd party will still make some games for the xbox 360... and new adopter will be able to buy and play all the games that they werent able to play since they weren't around... which is what PS2 late adopter are doing now... they aren't getting new games... the PS2 had a large library of games that they can buy and play... So, xbox 360 late adopter... go play the library of games the xbox 360 accumulated over the 5 years... use your brains fools... it's obvious...

but... buttt... buuuutt.. late adopter... that argument is stupid.. late adopter can adopt the old games... you want an original xbox? go to gamestop! ebay.. etc...

the only difference here between the PS2 and the original xbox is that sony is profiting from the PS2 hardware... but they are NOT... I repeat they are not supporting it on any way.. as far as software or even online... how many PS2 games you can connect online?... Microsoft is supporting late adopter of the original xbox today more Sony... you can get an original xbox today and you can play over xbox live...

ohh wow... Sony is support the PS2 because I can buy the same hardware I already have.... no new games... no online support... right... blind sony leg humpers.

[n4gzz]

are you planning to play video game until after 6 years ??? aren't you gonna be grandpa by then ? oh, you mean you will play wii

[Bladestar]

@n4gzz - are you saying that video games are only for kids? I think you were trying to insult me.. but instead you insulted many of the grownup people in this site that just like me still play video games... that includes PS3, xbox 360, and wii owners... Many of us don't see games like Gears, Kill Zone 2, Metal Gear like kids games.. we see video games as a form of entertainment like playing cards, uno, etc... just in electronic form... we are not planning to stop playing games.. for example me.. I hope when I grow old (now I am 28)... I will playing the latest games with my grand kids... trust me they will love it when I kick their @$$ on the on games..

[n4gzz]

don't take it seriously dude, I am just joking. Beside when is wii is for only kids ?

[plenty a tool]

in 2011 the specs of both the ps3 and 360 will look more than a little daated. 6 years is plenty of time imo.

infact i'm a little disappointed that new hardware mite not be out for xmas 2010. i like new consoles and i like technology as a whole.

anyway, who cares what sarcastic gamer have to say.

where can i place my pre-order for one of those un-announced bad-boys.

if you disagree, put a reason.

[ip-student]

Of course a new console will come out in about 6 years - the gap between consoles and PCs is already getting pretty large, in three years it will be huge. And once again I will be an early adaoptor. Once again I will be taking a flyer on reliability, limited games, software headaches, etc... And I will only do it once for at least three years, so whomever comes out first (Sony or MS) will get my coin. Of course, the interesting thing will be what Sony and MS decided to throw in their new console - but that is another thread.

The difference is that the 360 (and PS3 in 2009 - three years after my 360 purchase) will continue to get some love because they look good on my HDTVs. That is the main reason I had to kill the PS2/XBOX/gamecub/Wii generation - I needed something close to 720p.

[RememberThe357]

I think that the issue is that Microsoft cut off the original Xbox and some one who had just bought an Xbox got screwed. Sony is still supporting the PS2 even after the release of the PS3. So if someone bought a PS2 before the PS3 came out Sonys still got they're back. I believe that MS will do what Sony did this time around and continue to support the 360 after the Xbox 3 comes out.
Howere, there is the high probability that they will cut off the 360. MS think that the strategy that they used has payed off. They may be inclined to repeat the proses.

[Tomdc]

They cant base their judgement on the previous lifecycle length tho, its unfair because xbox wasn't very sucessfull and needed a replacement.

[Wildarmsjecht]

Singstar, Buzz, MLB the show, NBA 09 and so on. Learn to use your brain before sounding more like a fanboy.

MS could've still supported the xbox aftet losing nvidia or w/e. They chose not to. No ones fault but theirs. Blind MS leg humper.

[ip-student]

MS did not own the IP for the XBOX 1 and therefore was not able to sell it for less as technology matured. This time they do and have stated on a number of occasions that they will. In fact, that is the whole reason for the stupid core - they can get the price really cheap and still make money on it when they eliminate the HDD. So we will be seeing the 360 for a long time. Which is fine, as long as the next gen pops up in 2011 time-frame so I can take advantage of the new tech that can actually run 1080p games.

[cLiCK_sLiCK9]

Based on these arguements, you can already tell who is going to be a 720 and a PS4 fanGurl.....

I Personaly dont care if Microsoft 'jumps in' on the next generation early and dont see why people care..((maybe because PS3 fanboys still want the PS3 to be looked as the superior hardware on the market??))
if you dont want it dont buy it!

And For Those 'late adoptors' what makes you think they will 'jump in' early?? They Are not the hardcore audience....

If the 720 comes out early then you can assume the 'PS4 is Still going the one with the superior hardware'
CELL 3, most likely the PS4 processor, still not offial but i dont see why they wouldnt implent that on the PS4... http://www.psxextreme.com/p...
....unless microsoft pulls out something far more superior than the CELL3....(which i highly doubt they can pull it off by the next 2-3 years..)

[t-0_ot-]

Yea.. what about the late adopters? Chances are if you bought a 360 late in it's life cycle then chances are you won't buy the 720 until late in its life cycle. You can still buy the 360 games that every one else got. Including the early adopters. The games by that time are also even cheaper. So you can still buy all the games and get them at a cheaper price than anyone else got the games at.. Then when your ready you can buy the 720 and start the cycle over. Nobody is MAKING you buy the next gen console. I can go out and still find xBox1 games if I want to. I have seen xBox1 games in stores last year. I don't know if they still are or not because I haven't looked. But, still that's quite a while after the "give up" on the xBox1 that games were still being sold.

[Voiceofreason]

I dont see anyone crying about this when it happens to other consoles. What about late PS2 owners? What about late GC owners? Really its time to grow up and understand that you cant cry about one company doing it when you have no problem with other companies doing it. I'll never own a MS console but I am not so bias as to hate them for the same thing Sony and Nintendo are doing.

[BattleAxe]

Hear Hear!! Count me out too!

[Finch]

I agree Bladestar! I was hopen they stayed with the normal 5 year thought, but 6 will do fine. MS only getting bad vibes just becuase they dropped Xbox like a rock. As long as the new one don't stop support for the x360 right out of the gate. Everything will be fine. If not MS is going to see a firewall! Yet i don't see that happen ever again from MS. They learned there leason.

For all the others complain about 6 years. Are you kidding me 5 years has always been the life span of a console Gen. Why is it any diffrent now? If anything they raised it by one year and you still complaining? Not everyone waits 4 to 5 years to get that gen console and you make it sound like its something Sony or Nintendo also would and will do! I'm sure the Wii will be 5 years (2011) and PS3 will be 5 to 6 years (2011/20012) too. Depends if they want to stay in time with the other two console releases or not if they wait till (2012)! Yet it don't change the fact even if MS wasn't releasing a console. Sony would still be releasing one at this same time frame. Well unless they where the very last console makers on earth. Than we would be lucky to get anything from them. They would ride it to the death of us before we saw anything new!

[sumfood4u]

Ironic Spelling!

[mistertwoturbo]

6 years is Ok just as long as they continue to support the 360. It's the whole dropping 100% support for the system is what's bad.

[Blackfrican]

I would be ready to purchase another system in 2009-11. For all the late adopters who would not be ready: Why not adopt late again?

[thereapersson]

Bladestar never ceases to amaze me. He tries so hard to act like he has an objective viewpoint on both Sony and Microsoft, but no matter how hard he tries to front, everyone knows he will still end up spinning stories and opinions to kingdom come when they have to do with Microsoft.

[Hoggy1983]

New Xbox in 2010/2011..bring it on. By that time the 360 will have a humungous catalogue of games so that anyone buying a 360 later down the line will still get a great gaming experience whether or not support is still given (although im sure it will partially)

[Pnuts]

xbox 720 is for the serious gamer who can afford to carry on an every increasing gaming industry, where as the ps3 will soon have another price cut for the more casual gamers. When did anyone ever start comparing the xbox 360 to the ps3. The ps3 is superior and delvelopers know this, with games such as Killzone 2 and the rest that we all know about. The xbox 720 is a console that will stop the differences between the two and will maybe be more powerful.

[power of Green]

Three forced anti MSFT posts in 15 minutes lol.
Natural news flow has been coming in that favors the 360 and the response is pulling news out of the pool of anti MSFT articles. WoW

Fucin retarded post too he compares the Xbox being dropped when it comes to support with a new console release lol

[Pain]

I swear evertime i read that Crap u spew i lose IQ points.. Man oh man if People are really like u No- wonder your country believed in WMD's in iraq.

[BigKev45]

Count me in. But my guess is the new Xbox will come in 2010.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

In two years you'll buy another XBOX if it comes out?

[jaysquared]

I bet it comes out in 2011.. Micrsoft has learned their lesson this time around about rushing a console out with all the problems in the 360.. Also I dont see Sony releasing the PS4 until 2012 since technically they were force to realease the PS3 a year earlier than they wanted to.. That would give Sony 5 years since technically the PS3 was released in 2007

[Odion]

MS has already said it won't drop the 360 like it did the first xbox, but 6 years is plenty of time.

The PS2 was released 6 years after the PS1, I don't hear people complaining over that

[Silellak]

Because it was Sony, and not Microsoft.

When Sony does it, it's okay.

When Microsoft does it, they are the evil devil and hate all of their customers.

@Below:

It is a good point that MS did drop XBox 1 support like a rock. However, all indications are that they will NOT do the same with the 360.

Call me naive, but that's the way it seems, at least.

[Lord Vader]

I agree. Ive read that M$ said they wont drop supporting the 360 like they did the original xbox.

However, IF they did, it would be hard for me to buy another M$ console. Plus, they had really better address the hardware failure issue on the next console - at the very least, I will not be an early adoptor next time.

[JSA-Gamer]

Sony didn't drop the PS1 like a rock, like Microsoft did with the Xbox...

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Look at the number of games that came out in the life-span if this is true I'm not ready to buy any console in two years time. This includes the next Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft console.

[Dark_Vendetta]

Shouldn't be a problem as long as MS doesn't stop to support the 360 after releasing the 720

[joevfx]

the PS2 was a pretty large jump from the ps1, tech wise. i cant see a huge jump happenign between the 360 and the newer xbox. all they are gonna do is putter faster veriosn of older tech in it and a bigger ahrd drive, thats nothing to boast about. if they do somehtign new and innovative then we can talk.

[Pornlord]

Well, if Microsoft says they won't drop the 360, it must be true :)

It seems to me to be a reasonable time frame for a new console, but you can't dismiss people's fear of MS turning on the consumers. They have a track record of shady business and lies to the people who support them. Not to mention the xbox drop. The two consoles are starting to blend a little anyway, with Sony picking up shooters and Xbox picking up Jrpg's. I got both, but I'm just used to playing those genre's the other way around, it feels weird :)

[Odion]

there was no difference between the PS1 and the PS2 except more advance tech, you don't need an innovative feature to release a new system.

Also one of the major reasons why the first xbox was dropped was because they were having a dispute with Nvidea over the GPU and stop production of the chip.

6 years is plenty of time, and is still 3 3 and a half years away

[ActionBastard]

Sony DOESN'T have a track record for pulling the plug on their consoles, unlike Microsoft. See, every Sony console has had a history of still being supported YEARS into their predecessors lifespan.

In short, you damn right if Sony does it it's ok. PS2 owners are still happy. What about Xbox owners?

[n4gzz]

one of their best product Window xp which they will be stop supporting in 13 days. what makes you think that they will support 360 when it is garbage and losing money over it.

[The Lazy One]

I'd rather them concentrate on making another good OS than keep updating an old system.

Either way, you still get rights to XP if you have vista.

If there were major problems with XP right now, then it might make a difference.

[n4gzz]

but you can't even buy XP with new comp. I just brought new laptop and they shoved vista on me. And i don't want to install xp 'coz it voids warranty. That's called monopoly.

[plenty a tool]

is fine if it's sony..just not microsoft.

and can i ask why people are so bothered about continuing support?? when i upgrade to new hardware, i want to know that the platform holder is throwing 100% of their resources behind it. ot deviding themselves and having some studios continuing to work on games for the console i no longer play on.

using the whole "atleast company A continues support" argument just seems dumb. why invest your cash if company A is only half-arsing their support?? out with the old, in with the new i say.

[Common Sense]

I don't think Microsoft wants lose another billion dollars so I'm a little skeptical about Microsoft supporting the 360 for long.

I'm still bitter at Microsoft for the original xbox. I chose the Xbox over the ps2 in 2004 and I regret it because I year later, Microsoft dropped support for the Xbox.

Ever since then, I have being buying PS hardware (PSP and PS3- remote play is awesome) even though I almost bought the 360 ( Chose the PS3 obviously {toughest decision ever as the 360 is equally as awesome as the PS3) and it was my best gaming decision ever.

I for one, am not rushing into the next-gen and anyone who does is making a big mistake. Wait for all the next-gen consoles to be well established before making a decision or you are going to regret.

The man who said only fools rush in is a mad genius.

It's only common sense.

[thebudgetgamer]

but do you think that in that time graphics will be that much more advanced then the jump from last gen to this one

[Says you]

Look what happened there is an article about it.

[bigcheda]

also add Windows XP to that list. If they are going to abandon the giant user base of the XP who in their right mind believes they aren't going to do it to the 360?

[meepmoopmeep]

as long as they continue support for the 360 in software i'm fine with that. i'm one of the ones who got a sour taste in their mouth with what happened to xbox 1.

[Prismo_Fillusion]

Same for me. I bought my Xbox midway through its life cycle. After owning it for less than two years, as soon as the 360 was announced I suddenly had no new games to buy. I felt completely cheated. It's the same reason why I'm hesitant to buy Nintendo products (though I do own a Wii).

It convinced me, along with the hardware problems, not to buy a 360.

How Sony has handled the PS1 and PS2 once the new systems came out is what convinced me to buy a PS3. I spent a lot of money on the system, and I want to get more than 5 years out of it (bought it a year after release).

[mabreu]

The PS2 dominated last-gen. It does not stand a chance in catching up. This generation is dominated by the wii so I would not be surprised if they drop support for the 360 too.

[Salvadore]

The PS2 dominated last generation, the XBOX wasn't profitable and it was lagging behind. At the moment, the 360 is in a strong position and I see them supporting it for a longer time.

[Common Sense]

Do not condone Microsoft's unloyal decisions.

They screwed over 24 million with the original xbox and millions more if they don't extend their 360 warranty past 2010 (for early adopters). I was screwed with the first Xbox but I'm not making the mistake again.

Screw me once, You're a b***h. Screw me twice, I'm a retard.

It's just common sense.

[kazuma]

Microsoft has said it in the past, they will stay in the console business as long as it takes to make a constant profit (i wouldn't call a few months since the birth of the original xbox "profit"). if they see fit that they no longer have a possibility of winning the battle they will move on. it's happened in the past, it will happen again.

[BigKev45]

Of course I will. I love the 360.

[Whoooop]

They got a lot of heat from that...

MS should release the next xbox as soon as possible because the 360 is going down hill in a 90° slope.

As long as they don't f*ck their loyal costumers again by cutting support they can bring that next console fast.

:)

[etownone]

are you really that stupid?

With the biggest blockbuster of 2008 being released exclusively on the 360 this year, and still decent sales despite only a measly $50 price cut after almost 3 years on the market, MS is definitely in the better position compared to Sony.

go watch some MGS4 you brainwashed sonydroid.

[juuken]

But etownone...are they better in terms of hardware?
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I thought so.

If they're going to release a new system, then they might as well do it because Sony has been kicking their asses for months. It's going to get even worse when the summer starts, all the way up to the holidays. And if this new system bombs, then they might as well quit the gaming industry. MS has got to learn that being first doesn't always mean beating the competition.

[etownone]

the hardware issure has been fixed. period.

i would know, because i have been trying to get my 360 to RROD on purpose just to get a new one and it can't be done.

Sony has been kicking their azzes for months? really? last I checked Wii is kicking everyone's azz, while the 360 and ps3 have been pretty much neck and neck in America, despite the 360 price tag compared to a 399 blu-ray player/game console.

EDIT i meant to say would, not wont.

reason why i wanted to replace my 360 is because I have 2 360's, and i figured with the new falcon motherboard, maybe i can get a new 360 replaced for free. But since the one I got was replaced once already, i'm assuming they fixed the RROD because like I said, my console can't RROD even though i wrap it in towels and blankets... it just overheats and turns off.

[juuken]

But etownone, I didn't mention the Wii now did I? I know that the Wii is selling extremely well. I said that the PS3 has been kicking the 360's ass for months and it looks like it won't stop anytime soon. The PS3 and the 360 may have been neck to neck in North America but that is one region. The PS3 has been outselling the 360 in other regions besides North America.

"i wont know, because i have been trying to get my 360 to RROD on purpose just to get a new one and it can't be done."

...What?

Wait...so lemme get this straight. You tried to get your console to RROD just to get a new one? ...So what was wrong with the one you currently had? Also, if MS really fixed this problem, then where's the evidence? Just because you haven't heard about it, doesn't mean it's been taken care of. I just hope my system doesn't RROD because I will only replace it once. And if they send me back a piece of sh*t, it's either going in the trash or on EBay.

[dachiefsman]

but neither one of you are getting paid by either sony or MS.

So both of your arguments suck!

[Condoleezza Rice]

For some reason I find this hard to believe.

[aggh im on fire]

2011 sounds right thats plenty long enough. consoles are generally introduced every 5 years so 2011 is a year to late in my opinion.
The chances are they will continue supporting the 360 for a while after the launch of the new one anyway like sony has with the ps2 so its fine.
For those who say they won't because of the original xbox you have to realise because nvidia pulled out of the xbox and it was actually costing then more to make xboxes than it was to sell them. No business in there right mind would continue to support a dead loss.
Things are different this time round. Microsoft are making money on the 360 and they won't want to be seen as a developer that leaves the software side of things high and dry after all the steps they have taken to get developers onboard. And because there doing the hardware themselves backwards compatibilty shouldn't be an issue.
Microsoft made mistakes last gen and have learnt and improved. Just look at there marketshare. You can guarantee they will improve next time round too. As long as they sort on the hardware issues so we don't have a re-run of this time im in.

[tatotiburon]

count me in and to all the haters...are you going to play PS3 until 2014? do you really think that sony will launch PS4 in 2013?

[Panthers]

Yea. Game development takes a lot longer now and we will still see amazing games coming out by then.

[DarK-SilV]

I agree with him , hardware now are expensive and good games take time to develop, so If this continue ,how many good game we will get for every new console we buy

[Panthers]

Times have changed and game development is taking a lot longer than it used to. If a new console comes out in the next 3 years then I will not be buying it, at least for a while. The current consoles have barely even begun to shine. How many great games have actually come out so far? Not too many. It takes at least 2 years to put together a decent game, and that is with an engine already in place. With that time frame, these current consoles could be going strong for another 6-7 years.

If another Xbox comes out soon, it could spell disaster for M$ because I guarantee you that only the people that have to have the latest and greatest will get it. I hope Sony stays smart and doesnt get forced into releasing another console just because M$ does. They should wait a while longer, until 2014 at least. The PS3 will still be kicking by then.

[DarK-SilV]

Panthers we posted at the same time with the almost the same opinion

[Panthers]

I also wanted to add that we are entering the HD era. It is not just consoles that people are upgrading. It is TV and sound systems. This generation of consoles is a huge leap forward for gaming and it is going to stick around for a while. If a new console is introduced, most people wont be ready because they are probably still upgrading their entertainment setup.

[killer_trap]

2011 seems like a good time. why is this this dumb website complaining??? a 6 year life span is a year better than many consoles aside from the playstation brand.

[etownone]

this guy is an idiot.

2011 is SIX years.
I'm hoping they release the next Xbox in 2010.

The xbox 360 is the new ps2, when the next xbox comes out, the 360 will still be around and supported by developers at a great mass market price.

MS had to can the Xbox ASAP due to losing money on every console because they didn't own the gpu and whatnot and because they needed to launch the 360 ahead of the PS3 to have the advantage they have now:

1. Stronghold in the most important territory, North America.
2. Currently beating PS3
3. Developers prefer to the 360 for many reasons, one being that they had more time to get to know it. As a result, multi-plat titles run and look better on the 360.

[juuken]

Spoken like a true brainwashed consumer!

[syanara]

now seriously what your saying is the ps3 will die cause its not doing well in north america the population of JAPAN and EUROPE COMBINED is wayyyyy more than NA so is sony is winning in those terrirories like they are then they are getting more overall sales as they are espically now cause of mgs4 besides if you think the xbox 360 will be the new ps2 u got another thing comming. sure they had their reasons for trashing the original xbox but I won't belive that till I see it cause Ive gotten promises before from microsoft and I don't need to tell you how that ended up.

[Deadman64]

And your not brainwashed at all juuken?

[etownone]

excuse me miss junken, last time i checked you were in the market to buy a 360 to play your favorite games.

unless your just a 360 wannabe fangirl undercover.

EDIT
@ syanara - who the hell say the ps3 is going to die? sony will never go out of the gaming business. I just believe MS is in a better position, with the 360 for the mass market and the next xbox being released in 2010 or 2011. And if the 360 continues to dominate in America, that is guaranteed success, because the world follows Americas lead in the entertainment field, whether it be movies or music, and now gaming.

EDIT @ juuken

MS makes one of the most reliable consoles ever last gen with the original Xbox with a HDD, yet it bombs compared to ps2 with no HDD which was in FACT unreliable thus the class action lawsuit forcing Sony to pay up.

this gen MS had to release early to get the advantage. it has worked for them. period.
MS has owned up to the RROD with the best warrenty EVER, and the problem has been fixed, so shut up already with RROD and unreliable hardware crap, because even Sony has screwed up hardware in their past too.

[juuken]

But Deadman and etowone, I'm not brainwashed. I grew up with the Sony/Nintendo brand and that's why I support them. I don't always agree with what Sony or Nintendo does (it was really annoying hearing Sony bragging back in 2007 over stuff they knew would take time to come out), but other than that, they're part of the reason why games evolved today imo. Also, I did mention I was getting a 360 but I'm not going to allow myself to be brainwashed like you two idiots. MS could have done better in the gaming industry. Sure, they brought the games out and XBL sounds excellent but they screwed up badly with hardware.

edit: Disagree as much as you want! That's the honest truth!

[Egzekutor]

As a result, multi-plat titles run and look better on the 360.

This is because the games have been ported, when the game is developed seperately , you can spot the difference between PS3 and 360 in 1080p.

You will see much more from PS3, even though it has only 256mb of memory;)

[pimpstation]

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[-Maverick-]

LMAO in his delusional dreams. Xbox 360 is only selling some 19% better than the original failure.

Xbox as a whole and brand =failure and is NO WHERE EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE to a Playstation. Period. And its still getting destroyed and going to get destroyed by the PS3 again this generation.

Xbox 360's lifetime sales won't pass 45 million. Probably be about 40 million.

Xbox is a joke. Don;t try to compare the Xbox failure's to the PS2 you douche. The world doesnt agree with you LMAO. You just saying these things. Xbox 360 isn't the lead console BY ANY MEASUREMNET. It came out first and its FAILING and failing hard.

[juuken]

PIMPSTATION, DON'T MAKE THEIR EYES WATER AGAIN! I WAS JUST FINISHED DRYING THEM! >.<

[PSWe60]

if by loyal you mean completely stupid then yes, I would agree.

I mean M$ would never leave you PUTO Bots out in the cold,
well there is the X-Box death in just 4 years, and the 3rd60 hardware failure, the LIVE Subscriptions, HDD not being standard, limited backwards compatibility, standard features on the PS3 that cost you PUTO Bots more if you want them on the 3rd60, "Arcade" 3rd60 with only 256 MB of memory, scratched discs, losing Bungie, probably losing HALO exclusivity, losing BioShock, HDDVD death, HDMI not standard...
But no really you idiot PUTO Bots stay with M$, you losers deserve one another.

[etownone]

its about the games.

the 360 has the largest game library, the highest rated exclusives, best online service, and multi-plat games run and look better on the 360.

what more can you ask for in a game console? you happy with blu-ray and free wi-fi and free 2nd rate online service? than thats you, I on the other hand wanted a console for playing games.

maybe if you wiped some of the cum out of your eyes from sucking all that sonyc0ck, you can realize that Sony has only been d1cking you down this gen forcing a format down you throat and brainwashing you to believe you need everything SOny says you need.

by the way, is the pic in your avatar your homo lover, or just another c0ck you worship kid?

[strotee]

You would know who Adam Corolla was if you were out of junior high.

[etownone]

oh, ok, thats the guy from the man-show

either way, i don't go out of my way to put pics of hardly recognizable men to represent what i'm about.
but hey thats me, i got a pic of a hot piece of azz because thats what i'm about.

[Deadman64]

lmao

[-Maverick-]

You have a "hot piece of azz" on your avatar because your a f@ggot that cvan't get girls. I get girls always have/will. I would never put one as an avatar on a chatroom about videogames. You = weird loner douche.

[Syronicus]

Count me out too. I will wait until 2012 to buy the next one. That way there will be a year of consoles out there and I can make an educated decision to buy the next MS console. Hopefully that will be enough time to tell if their next console is any bit more reliable...

[SmokeyMcBear]

well i believe the problem here is software support. when the 360 came out, there was absolutely no more software that was headed for the original xbox, nothing, zip, zilch, nada. They forced you to buy the new system if you wanted any sort of new games. Hell, the ps2 is still getting new games, maybe not the next gen awesome graphics games, but new games none the less. There is still support. Now, if the 720 comes out and there is still support for the 360, the it wouldnt be that bad, but based on their track record, im not sure that will be the case.

[Kholinar]

Seems like that's what people are saying overall. Does anyone disagree?

If the 360's still supported, would you still look favorably on the Xbox brand? Not that you'd necessarily buy a 720, just that you'd be ok with the process.

If not, then why?

[juuken]

Nope, when I get my 360, I won't be spending money on yet another console. Microsoft has got to learn that being first doesn't always mean being the best. Whoever is first shall be last, and whoever is last shall be first. They should be focusing on fixing the hardware issues on the 360 instead of jumping immediately to another console. Like I said, they will force people to upgrade YET again.

I applaud Sony for sticking to a ten year lifespan.

[TrenchaunT]

Hardware problems are fixed. New 360's are much better, don't have the same issues, and have HDMI. Old 360's are covered by a very generous warranty. My bro's had red ring, sent it in, and it was back to him in no time. I take good care of my old 360 and have not had any problems whatsoever. What more do you want? If MS did release a 720 in a few years, it'll surely be a much better piece of hardware. Problem solved.

[juuken]

Is there any proof of this? Until I see proof, I remain skeptical.

[Dark360]

And you stay with sony and your gaystation.

you sony troll Homo...

LOL...Peace... JAJAJAJA

[juuken]

Wow...yet another immature xbot.
Why am I not surprised.

[dachiefsman]

that it comes out late 2010 or 2011. It will take another year on top of that for the games to start to develop. No matter what console has come out 75 percent of the launch titles are weak anyways.

I can hold out another 3 years. Hell it might not even be a console by then....

[crimsonfox]

hhahaha

[juuken]

Sell software, what else? :]

[DOOMZ]

AWESOME!!!!

[Mr PS3]

Will force Microsuck to bring out their next RROD contraption early
Just like the PS2 did with the xbox
By this time the PS3 will be untouchable
And the Xbox 720 will still be exploding all over the place
It will have a 3 year start on the PS4 and just like now it will still catch up and surpass the Crapbox 720(not that the 720 will come close to the PS3 never mind the PS4)

So long Bots you Dumb SUCKA'S

[Pornlord]

Well, I'll be ready for PS3's new console around 2012, but I won't get it then, I'll ride out the PS3's lifespan. I'll pick it up a year or so in, just like I did with this gen's systems. It paid off with 360 because I got a good one after all of the RROD crap blew over.

[Aclay]

I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft introduced another Xbox in 2-3 years from now.

I think the big question is, Will Microsoft discontinue the Xbox 360 once the Xbox 720 comes out? Since Microsoft still hardly has a lot of first party studios, I don't think that they could support the Xbox 360 and Xbox 720 on the market at the same time like Sony with the PSP, PS2, and PS3.

I could care less what Microsoft does with their systems, all I know is that the next Playstation console is due to come out in 2012 at the earliest because Sony has actually stuck to a 6 year cycle before introducing another system, and they support their systems for up to 10 years.

However, I wouldn't say that another Xbox in 2011 would be too early because the 360 would have been on the market for 6 years by then.

[DARKDRAGON254]

The time span is good but the problem is that it was good for last generation. Times have changed and I think the consoles need a longer life cycle. Consoles were more expensive this gen and have been taken longer to reach mass market. None of the consoles are $200 yet....which means most people dont have them (not talking about the wii obviously). For this generation...I think its too soon for the next console. Especially consider some games have 4 year development cycles. I think its a big mistake for Microsoft to go in too soon. I think it will be their undoing. Even worse...if the PS3 graphics hold up by the time MS have a new system...then people will be more inclined to wait. I know I will.

[richie007bond]

2011 is almost 3 years away,so ill be ready for a new console by then.That will be 6 years,so hell yes ill be more than ready for a new console.Look how far PC graphics have come,can you imagine what games on the pc are gonna be like in 3 years times,xbox 360 and ps3 are already lagging behind in what the PC can do now never mind 3 years away.I want games with unparalleled graphics and physics that only the next generation of new consoles can achieve,the ps3 and 360 are good machines but thier yeaterdays tech and showing thier limitations already,and dont give me the cell and blu ray BS,at the heart of the ps3 is a geforce7 800 which will be 6 or 7 generations behind when 2011 pulls round.So COUNT ME IN!!!!!now

[GarandShooter]

Oh, I get it now. It's only the GPU, not the CPU or media storage that define a console. The cell is unlike anything else in a gaming console, and it's the POWER OF THE CPU which makes games fun. If you want to play beautiful games that suck go ahead...and what does it cost to purchase a true high-end PC to play the most graphics intense games - two to three times the cost of a console? Try mixing common sense with research, and the quality of your posts will improve.

The PS2 continues to get developer support because of the huge install base, so it is lucrative. How many 360s will be around in 2010 or 2011? I think the situation will be similar to the PS2's so there will be plenty of developer support. The only question is XBL, and with Microsoft's love affair with PC type architecture, I think the next Xbox will be a further evolution of said technology, as opposed to a reinvention of the wheel. Since continued ability to access the internet doesn't require the latest and greatest technology, there is no reason Microsoft couldn't keep XBL up for both the 360 and the new console. Let's also not forget the $50.00 annual subscription fee. With millions of 360s installed, does anybody think Microsoft wants to abruptly cut off that income stream?

[Pp p]

I was hoping a lot sooner like 2009 wiating for 2011 is way to long

[PopEmUp]

you want to get rid that piece of trash as fast as you could lol

[Morgue]

I commented on this yesterday just like a bunch of other people, same topic just wrote different with a different author and site. Like I said, I'm not buying it after the fiasco I had with the 360 and how many consoles does M$ have too release before the make the right one. They'll have supporters or newcomers that will buy it but not me. Let's hope for M$ sake that the third time is a charm.

[kevin1122]

i can understand people saying it's too soon for new hardware during this gen. last gen there was a hell of alot more games at this point than there is now. I really do think this gen will last longer than the previous ones.

[Sez]

i had to laugh at this post. like he forgot that sony abandon their user base with the 40gig ps3. like i don't have to keep my ps2 just to play games. sort the same way i do with the xbox. hypercritic

[ash_divine]

abandoning one function that no one really needed(backwards compatibility) is not the same as abandoning a entire console.

[name]

2011 isn't a bad year at all to be released. I'm more worried about the next xbox being released in 2010. Which is more than likely to happen.

[Aquanox]

What's the point of this article?

First, do you really believe Sony will give the Playstation 3, 10 years of competitive lifespan? That's pure dust in the air, to be later debunked by themselves when a PS3 is released somewhere no later than 2013 (2012 being the highest possibility)

Secondly, If Microsoft releases a next Xbox in 2011, the console would have a 6 years of lifespan, which is perfectly fine for a console. Each generation has historically lasted 5 or 6 years and technology evolves faster these days. It's a good thing they aren't releasing it earlier than that.

Lastly, the first Xbox was dropped because it was an old frankenstein that served as an experiment in the industry. Microsoft representatives have mentioned repeatedly that they will NOT do this with the Xbox 360, which means that even if a new console is released later in its lifespan, they won't just drop the support for the console. They weren't in the possition to do it with the Xbox but they aren't only in the position but in the financial and business obligation to do so with the new console or it'd be a disaster in terms of brand confidence.

2011 looks like the sweet spot for a new console from Microsoft. Probably 2012 would be good too but not 1 day after.

[Highwayman]

This article reaks of fanboyism........Just kidding. I don't know why this guy has got his panties in a bundle for. So what id MS wants to be first again. This guy doesn't know jack about what is going on "behind the scenes" at MS any better than I or any one else in here does. They could have learnt their lesson and will perhaps build a better console. We all know that they were thinking up and designing the new right after the launch of the 360. We'll see what happens when it happens.

[MetalProxy]

the same people that where Bytching about spending money turn around and say its alright. "Jump Out" of the 360 and "Jump In" to another.

[caffman]

count me in!

[Avto]

well, 2011 is a very reasonable time to get a new console out. PS4 could be 2012, but what they have to do is support the old one in some way. The problem is what if they get the new console out next year, I mean if they can find another laptop Apple doesn't want, we might see nextBox by the end of next year.

[pow3r of t3h c3ll]

count me out.

[caffman]

Don't let us stop you!

[caffman]

are the $ony $lugs all here when it is fluck all to do with them?
edit - oh a disagree. So please do tell why you are here when its not anything to do with the PS3?

[Xbox is the BEST]

most of them don't even own a PS#3. No PSN ID posted for many on this website.

[MetalProxy]

@Chaffman the river flows both ways at N4G (The xbots do the same crap).

[MIAMIFROST]

Microsoft is a bunch of greedy d*cks with no care for their customers. I will never support them , even if the Xbox720 came out 15 years from now and was the greatest machine of all time.
I'd rather know my money went somehwere more of an investment and not a risk. Microsoft is a risk with their horrible support and cheap hardware and over priced accessories. $100 for a wifi adapter. HA !

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

I would buy another one, maybe not at the $600 point, but $400. Sure, bring on the next generation.

After all, with every new generation, there is always a huge leap in graphic improvement and what a new console can do. Even the first 360 games looked considerably better than the the original Xbox. The difference in Xbox to PS2 wasn't that significant. That is why I'm for another upgrade. In reality, a 5-6 year lifespan for a console is an eternity in the technology world.

What I would like though is for all new consoles to be backwards compatible. That should be a requirement and would not leave the previous console dead in the water (alas original Xbox).

[goodgameslover]

Like many people pointed out in 2011 the 360 will be 6 years old. A normal lifespan for any console (so this incl. Sony and Nintendo as well). So i don't understand the attacks on MS? I'm pretty sure the 360 won't have the same fate as it's predecessor. And lets be honest once the ps3 came out the ps2 hasn't gotten any more killer aps and there are no more really good titles made for it alone. It gets the multiformat games all the consoles are getting (the need for speeds, fifa's, maddens and so on). This support is a lock for the 360 when the times come for a succesor. Because this is easy cash in. But like all other last gen consoles, it will not get anymore exclusives.

[chad4401]

they need to stop rushing their systems

[u got owned]

6 year is plenty and i'll be ready for next Gen. that's for sure.

[G1TR4P3D]

???? I enjoyed years of awesome games on my xbox. have no idea what this moron is talking about. bring on the 720.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

Poor xbots

[pimpstation]

Fo real. They can count me out as well.

[JEDIaNIN]

Continue third party development on the 360. Early adopters keep up with "Next Gen"

[Tunerboy8732]

Ive been holding onto $550 just for the next Xbox.Im satisfied with my 360 but when the new Xbox comes out ill be definetly picking mine up 1st day.

[G1TR4P3D]

better that than BLOWING it on a MovieStation 3 with nothing but downgraded PORTS lol.

[thehitman]

Be the soonest release MS can do on their next xbox if they wanna stay in the industry. I think Sony has the upper hand in terms of controlling the cycle because who ever releases first the next will make sure to make better I think MS really BEST interest is to release simultaneosly the 3rd time and try to match Sony instead of getting a pssy head start and shafting themselves down the road with inferior tech and hardware problems.

[Thump1967]

Same here have 600.00 waiting in a savings account but BW compatiability with the 360 is a must just like BR & hard drive & WI FI is a must this time.

[edhe]

not news.

[beavis4play]

it gets tiresome doesn't it.

[edhe]

Anything that can fuel the fanboi war eh?

/me heads back to Kotaku, where there's actually journalism.

[PSWe60]

just returning the favor PUTO Bots, you troll so shall I

talk about sucking c0ck, PUTO Bots wrote the book on that.

Again with the crappy service and failure rate, what good are the games if your console breaks down? But no you guys are so busy picking pubes out of your teeth you can't notice how utterly stupid you seem to the rest of us.

example: "HDDVD is the future! It owns Blu-Ray..."
Once HDDVD was finished: "Downloadaable content is the future"
When M$ was rumored to be working on another disk format with higher capacity: "This IS the future!"

Stand in line losers for M$ next business failure. Enjoy waiting for your console from the repair shop.

JUMP OUT, the house is burning

[Pp p]

DAY one purchase for me count me in .well look who's come PSWe60 the puto pig himself

[himdeel]

...to support the 360 software wise for a year after they drop the a new rig then it will be right on time "for me". Like some I was a semi late adopter relative to the release date of the original 360 unit. So I wont get as many years of use as some of you early adopters but thats okay.

Likewise after being stung by the Dreamcast I refuse to purchase game systems when they first drop. Either way if they decide not to support the 360 after the new unit drops I'd much rather they announce a specified date (BEFORE the launch of the new system) when I could expect no new software for the 360 to be announced/developed.

This would allow those of us that are gun shy and/or too cheap, to save up the $400-$500 necessary so we're ready to go on x date and jump in with the purchase of a new rig. I hate sitting on the couch all mad WANTING to play the newest games but cannot because I don't have the money to upgrade.

Finally MS please take your time and put together a piece of hardware that's a bit more reliable.

[PSWe60]

@etownone

If the picture for our avatar is indicative of us then what about your's?
You like taking it up the @ss?
You wear pink panties?
wait wait...I got...You're a wh0re?
What picture I use is the least of your worries, don't you have a 3rd60 to put out? You know those things get pretty hot after about 15 minutes.

[pimpstation]

Here's a pic showin you what etownone is really all about.

Also, live video of his house!

[Xi]

I'm sure they will continue you to offer more support for the next one.

[beavis4play]

my take: if MS tries to launch a new console before nov. 2012, it will struggle. i'm not saying all the loyal fanboys won't buy one. and the hardcore gamers who buy every new system will surely get one. but that won't be enough to push early install base. many will wait to see if hardware reliability holds up. this isn't an attack- it's just facts. if i were in control of ms, i'd concentrate on getting as many good games out as i could. but the concern here, is ms may have it's hands tied by the dvd9 format. if games do evolve on the 360; they may have to be on multiple discs. again, not flaming, just facts. and if games (on ps3) like MGS4,uncharted, ratchet,GT5p, warhawk,KZ2, resistance 2, continue to get even better, then ms may be forced to upgrade in the hopes that people will follow. question is: will enough buy into what ms says after the rrod issue?

[SKullDugger]

MS can count me out until they prove their console's are better built then the 360. Look at how long it took them to get their failure rate at the % that SONY and NINTENDO launched with. I dont want the hassles again.

[Gandhi Man]

What about Nintendo and the GamePube? Or any of their other consoles. Nintendo abandoned every one of them. No backwards compatability, no new games, just Poof...Here's our new console give me your money.

[TheKungFool]

Seriously, look where they are right now this gen:
- beaten worldwide by Sony and Nintendo every month
- hardware that continues to fail and brick
- that 3 year warranty doesn't feel so comforting now that its almost up
- outdated disc format
- lost the HD format war

Its in MicroSoft's best interests to get a new console out as soon as possible. As long as its backwards compatible with 360 titles, and doens't brick at a 40% clip like the 360, they'll be better off.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

i don't want to finally be playing X3 and PS4 when i'm in my 30's, i'll probably be a father by then.

however there IS a good side and a bad side to keeping a console alive for 6 years,

the good-

if consoles went over there life expectancy it might not entirely be beneficial, good games with good stories might end up already being used, HS was going to be on the original xbox, and PREY was going to originally be on the N64, if it hadn't been for their delays ps3 and 360 wouldn't have had those games.

the bad-

give a console 6 years and it might be 7 to 8 times more powerful, give a console 8 to 10 years and you might get 10 to 15 times more powerful, if consoles would have waited just a bit more longer they would have either 2 things,

1- be 2 to 3 times more stronger

or

2- be the same strength and cost a whole lot cheaper

[GUNS N SWORDS]

personally i don't think consoles should be going the same way that media formats do, every 10 to 11 years.

6 to me is perfect, not too long but not too short.

[gnothe1]

all this is, is a case when MS does something its wrong but anybody else its ok. the gamecube launched at the same time as the xbox 1, an have you seen anymore gamecube support, NO!! nintendo completely dropped support for the console but nobody talked about it. an since when was 6 years the normal for a console launch. there has ALWAYS been 5 year gaps, the PS3 was DELAYED because sony was waiting on blu ray to be finalized. if it wasnt for that the PS3 would have launched the same year as the 360. with the PS2, what first party games are being released for it. you know its getting madden an live but it wouldnt surprise me if the xbox 1 didnt get those games as well. but other that selling the system what big games are SONY releasing on the PS2.

the normal release dates for consoles has been 5 years. even for sony. the PS1 was released in 1995 the PS2 was released in 2000. so the Ps3 was the only system that released on its sixth year.
http://www.thegameconsole.c... PS1 1995
http://www.thegameconsole.c... PS2 2000
http://www.thegameconsole.c... xbox 2001
http://www.thegameconsole.c... gamecube 2001

[GarandShooter]

Dude, drop the fanboyism and Sony hate and re-read your own post. It may contain some info you have misinterpreted.

First, the fact that nobody cared about the GameCube support being dropped is very telling in and of itself.

Secondly, Sony delayed release to finalize the BluRay format. Sounds like a good idea to me. Had Microsoft not farmed out 360 manufacture to every Tom, D!ck and Harry maybe the failure rate would be much lower. Nintendo won't do that, which is why Wii's are hard to find, but you hear nothing of Wii failures.

Lastly, first party support doesn't continue endlessly. GM isn't making parts to fit a 1965 Chevelle Convertible anymore, but aftermarket support is there. That's why third party support is there. I want console manufacturer's software divisions to be working on titles that max out current hardware in all aspects. I want their hardware divisions working on the next-gen system, the one that's going to make my jaw drop and make me think aloud...HOLY $H!T.

[Bullseye]

Did MS run out of their original xbox fans? Yep. Damn right,they did!
Are Ms the only company ever to do this? Nope, not by a long chalk.For whatever reason,quite a number of consoles or handheld's have,in the past, bit the dust relatively short lived.

I don't believe this time around will be the same, and here's why. 360 is a popular and successful machine- it's making money. So, even if MS releases their 720, that doesn't mean no more 360. This time round fans and developers will determine it's lifespan,i'm sure of that.

The article suggests MS' wanting to be first to market has cost them dearly in regard to H/W problems.Okay,that's fair.But isn't it also fair to say, 'first to market' has also given them the largest user base of the next gen consoles?(Ninty next gen? Er, no!)

Sony have supported their consoles superbly,no doubt.However, even Sony have had H/W problems with their own consoles, haven't they?

Bottom line? As long as 360 is still supported- and i don't doubt it will be- then 720 can't come fast enough for me.And don't think Sony will sit idly by while MS release a new console,no matter what they say about a ten year lifespan.

[Crazywhitie]

It's not that we are Loyal, It's that all the other systems are Crap

[TheKungFool]

those other two "crap" systems are outselling the 360 every month, and you're in the minority.

[GarandShooter]

If my cars could run on stupidity instead of gas Crazywhitie would have just filled my tanks to overflowing.

[Tyrael]

I'm all for newer technology sooner. Sure, we spend more but if you can afford it, why not?

[PimpHandHappy]

unless they bring a real big game along with it

and no
Halo 4 or Gears of War 3 will cut it

Why would i want to buy something from these fools? I would rather not buy Nike shoes because they where made in a sweat shop! Im not spending 400bucks and an eltronic that was made in the same place!

Let the MS user base get suckered again! Its not going to happen to me

PS3 will crush the new xbox

[edhe]

That's 4x the 18month cycle (moore's law is now 18 months btw..)

Ergo the next xbox will have not twice as many, nor four times as many, nor 8, but 16 times as many transisters as the 360.

ok, so that's what..16x triple core cpu, 16x an almost dx10 card? ~48 core, 2 threads each - so that's a 96 streams cpu and a GPU that could eat multiple 1080p streams for brekky, and output natively at quadHD. That's just expanding on current architecture, which since MS owns is quite possible rendering it 100% backwardly compatible...

I think that's a reasonable upgrade.

[PimpHandHappy]

i think you will get the new xbox b4 2011

more like Nov 2009

[GUNS N SWORDS]

pretty good humble none bias point of view........lol

[PimpHandHappy]

if the new xbox comes out in 2011 then thats a success for a company that has had very few. 6 years is good

They did say its focus would be on DD and i know one thing for sure

I DONT WANT TO BE THAT DEEP INTO MS POCKETS

[CNIVEK]

Sony never said they wouldn't have another console within 10 years, just that they hoped to extend the lifespan (milk it to death), like with the PS2.

[OOG]

I agree with Pimphand but instead I think 2010..........

But like I say in all of the articles that deal with this.....

I will bjuy one because I like to evolve and to play hardware that is that 6+ years old is sad when PCs hardware such as their graphics cards etc went ahead of these consoles basically a few months after they released..........

I duno I like to play games and new systems are great....Its not my fault people dont adopt early...so why should we have to wait for them?

Anyway I dont see them abandoing the 360 like they did to the xbox...so it ownt even be too bad for people who may aopt late and they already have quite and impressive lineup of games on the system since day 1 as well........

O well guess we will see if the new systems are floating around in a few more years

[SmokingMonkey]

actually i might buy this nextbox720, u know it wont have a RROD or anything like it, i guarantee it will have a standard hard drive and will justify my claim that the 360 was just a "jump off point" to their real "next gen" system.
HHmmmm? BLUray or DigitalDownloaded games? is the question.

[Rusted]

Is perfectly fine, what's the problem?

[littletad]

"10 year life-span" is a ritual among Sony loyalist. That's the problem.

[Stiffler203]

Think of it like this people who were late adopters of the 360 will probably buy the next xbox late as well giving them the same life span as early adopters. Also i'm sure MS wont make the same mistake and drop the 360 so quickly.

[tudors]

but with regards to Xbox version 'one' I believe that the install base was not growing enough to justify the 3rd party publishers carrying on supporting it, the PS2 had too much momentum, I mean how many new games to you see for the gamecube? not many I reckon and probably for the same reasons, the Xbox-360 has already beaten the number of consoles sold in the original Xbox's lifespan so with that in mind I expect the Xbox-360 support to go on much longer.

For the record I am not a man of financial wealth, gaming can be a expensive hobby, I do think the original Xbox could have had longer support, it's still a great console, but remember this was Microsofts first attempt so it was always going to be hard to sustain support.

[RadioactiveTouch]

The NES was released state-wide in 1986 and the Super Nintendo came out in 1991 (five years). The Sega Master System came out in 1986 as well and the Genesis in 1989 (3 years). The N64 came out in 1996 to replace 1991's Super Nintendo (5 years). Suddenly, it's a horrible thing to have a console last 6 years? Who the hell is the dumbass posting this commentary? Does he have any knowledge of history or even an idea of how economies work? If he wants to hold onto his already-underpowered PS3 until 2016 then that's fine by me, but some of us ENJOY having bigger, better and faster as the years go by.

[ElementX]

Even if late adopters buy a 360 next year, there's still a number of good games. I'd rather jump on the bandwagon early on and get my money's worth. I think the 10 year plan for PS3 is a bit much. I bet TVs improve before that time and you know everyone always wants the best, they're gaming will be held back by the PS3

[Trekster_Gamer]

He makes no valid points, he is a bafoon! (he must be a sony bot)

I will be totally on-board with with the next XBOX incarnation. It again will be the best console, best price, best features and best games...

Will GT5P be out by then?

BWhahhahah

[littletad]

Reason. It's corporate talk no matter what a fanboy's spin is. There are a ton of mishaps in every console generation. Sony has done quite a few; Dropping backward compatibility, dropping rumble, and faulty hardware during it's initial launch for the ps2. And Microsoft never technically "dropped" the xbox completely. Sports games still came out for it and there is backward compatibility for it. It made since to learn the game business and come out with a new console. It was a gamble and look where it got them. Still in deep with the competition. I'll be ready whenever BOTH ps4 and 720 come out, regardless of when.

[PattyWacker]

meh.Its only 2008 people, stop whining like little biotches. Boo Hoo. We still have time to enjoy this generation. I would have to buy the new one if it came out, or id miss out on some great games. It would be the same situation if Sony brought out a new console too. I just like playing games and in my opinion 6 years is good enough. As long as they keep some support for the 360.

[TrenchaunT]

The author talks about shelling out $600. That was the cost of the PS3, not the 360. $400 is not a bad price to pay, especially when you consider how much it costs to keep a PC up-to-date so it can keep playing the latest games. 6 years is not a short lifespan, and certainly a long time to expect a PC to keep playing games well.

MS isn't perfect, but I don't think all of their business strategies are so horribly flawed. If the MS had released with a price of $600 I wouldn't have bought it. If it had released a year later, I probably would not have bought it, and would not have gotten back into console gaming (which I had been out of for years, in favor of PC gaming). Personally, I like the game companies to be investing in the future, not wasting time making games for LAST gen's console long after THIS gen has started. I want the sweetest graphics and newest gameplay without having to upgrade my computer every few years.

[tojfs7931]

LOL. No pun intended, but Microsoft probably started work on the next version of the XBox as soon as the 360 was released. As I am sure that Sony is preparing the inevitably named Playstation 4.

[reccodog]

But what I don't get is way is there so many loyal fans for Microsoft after they dropped support for the original Xbox?

[no_more_heroes]

this article seems to be talking about there being no new games made for the 360 when the new xbox comes out. I don't think they will drop support for the 360 that quick though. They were never going to make any profit from the first xbox, which is why they dropped it. They're already making a profit on the 360, so they're gonna want to milk it as much as possible, especially since they're gonna be losing money for a while on the next xbox.

side note: using firefox 3(yay!). Why does it say version 2.0.0.14 on the setup thing though? shouldn't it be 3. whatever?

[clarkdef]

I have comfort in the thought that my PS will be around for some time to come. Even when the PS3 and 360 were out, I still enjoyed my PS2. I didnt care to much about the bigger boys. I know when bring out the PS4 I will still be able to enjoy my PS3 in the same way. And not feel rushed or bad about my relic.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

Xbox fans are crying & being bled to death by their master corporation & being crushed by Sony again!
I hear all your gaming bones breaking!
ha! Laugh with me!

[agent864]

I think you'll see a backlash against an early release. We've not only invested in significantly more expensive consoles but more expensive games and peripherals to go with them: Rock Band, Guitar Hero, and for Xbox $100 wireless adapters and $180 hard drives. Plus the HDTV's to go along with it.

Backwards compatibility will be ever more important in next gen and it will be next to impossible unless the architectures and interfaces remain similar.

I have all 3 systems and I know I want at least 4 more years to recoup the $1000s i've already spent this gen. I think they'll be wise to follow Nintendo's lead and focus on gameplay and interactivity improvements rather than just graphical horsepower and added $$. All the money I've spent on games I don't have enough time to play could've went to a downpayment on summer property for weekend soirees with wine and friends, you know like folks used to do to entertain themselves. The videogame industry is the newest bubble and it will pop by 2010/2011 anyway if not sooner so next gen will prob be much more modest than this one.

[TruthbeTold]

...everything will be fine as long as they continue support and continue to trickle out new games for the 360 now and then, unlike what they did with the original Xbox. If they go cold turkey again and just leave people hanging, they deserve to be abandoned. I seriously don't think they'll do that though.

[ROCCOZILLA]

it was game over on 6/12/08 for xbox,that is the day SNAKE arrived.PLAY B3YOND waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ay B3YOND!!

[karlostomy]

Count me out

[karlostomy]

They learned:
1. They need to own the design and manufacturing rights to the hardware
2. They need to be profitable as early as possible
3. They need to establish early market presence and a broad range of games
4. They need to cost reduce the manufacturing as an ongoing process
5. They need to have ongoing support for the business.

MS has achieved all of the above.
Why why why are people thinking that a business model that makes profit will be discontinued? (ie: the 360)

I am estimating that the 360 will be around in total for 8 years. Why?
well...
- the hardware and manufacturing is getting cheaper
- the price will fall, capturing a larger install base
- The library of games will grow
- The console is, and will remain, profitable.

Please, only intelligent replies.

[AZgamerB3yond]

Like usual, MS will try to one up sony and be first and end up releasing an incomplete and faulty device with last gen specs. (dvd9) i bought the original xbox late and got dumped quickly, never again. but Ive bought the ps1,ps2,ps3, psp. never once had a bad experiance. Simple economics really.

[Gantrfaxx]

Count me out too.

[C_Dub]

The Xbox was dropped because of a lawsuit with Nvidia that ended up with them splitting from MS with the project and taking its GPU with them. No more Nvidia graphics card, no more Xbox.

Things will be different with 360, it's simply much too established to just outright abandon and sales will continue for years after the "720" comes out, both software and hardware-wise. Think of it as this gen's PS2.

Am I ready for a new Xbox just yet? Well, I have come to the conclusion that devs will have "maxed" each console's capability within the next couple of years. Besides, tech is rapidly evolving, and is constantly doing so. Some might argue that 360 is already "old" in the tech world and as PCs get more and more powerful, they get the point where one even mildly priced could blow both PS3 and 360 out of the water. What I'm saying is, consoles are going to get stronger most of the time, but they're meant to live a short life. A good five years and I'm happy.

[tudors]

"The Xbox was dropped because of a lawsuit with Nvidia that ended up with them splitting from MS with the project and taking its GPU with them. No more Nvidia graphics card, no more Xbox."

[marcellizot]

When I see what PCs can do, just a year after the laucch of next generation consoles, I start to get itchy feet.

Don't get me wrong, I love the current three consoles and I expect to get loads of fun out of them all over the next few years, but by 2011 I will be more than ready for a new console.

Most adults with a modest amount of expendable cash probably don't see this as a problem, and in an industry like gaming where the technology moves really quickly I want to be up to date without having to pay for a high end PC every 18 months.

Just look at some of Nvidia's most recent tech demos. They make Crisis look like something a five year old drew and even that game (running at its highest settings) is not possible on any of the current next-gen consoles.

It's called progress people and 5-6 years is far from a rip off lifespan for a console in my eyes.

[Citizen Cook]

I want a console NEXT year damnit! I have the money, don't want a console with a 10 year life span! The graphics will look crap by 2013!

HA HA HA HA!

[resistance100]

It will only be a problem if they cut off all support to the 360 like they did with the orignal Xbox.

If they follow Sony's route and continue supporting older platforms for years after new ones come out then it isn't a problem

[bigjclassic]

should just give up, two consoles that did rather "well" but didnt do what MS wanted it to do. It'll be in MS best interest and try to unify PC gaming into one main console. I mean all of MS big games are PC games and there are alot of PC owners out there, they wont have to worry about an actuall console, they can just worry about software.

[Down_With_Kotaku]

...they would be taking Live, which is widely accepted as the best online user interface, with them...

[Ali_The_Brit]

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[Xbox is the BEST]

Xbox must really be bothering you. It's only a game console relax :)

[Down_With_Kotaku]

Okay, Gaming Generations have been getting shorter recently, because the support for them surpassed the tech. in the hardware. But now, there are firmware and software updates that you didn't get on previous consoles, online communities, LIVE, PSN, Nin WiFi, Patches, Digital Downloads, Remote Play, Wireless Networking...

Point is, Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft Collectively expanded gaming into the lifestyle you have today. Sony gave you the wide DVD9 support back in the day, the DS started true multiplayer and the Wii introduced the casual gamer, and Microsoft took the online gaming spark from Dreamcast and turned it into a forest fire of online gaming, rapidly growing and connecting to people worldwide. They've established some serious grassroots.

There is still so much more growing room. Who says that the "Xbox 720" would only be a slight revision to the console? Blu-Ray support, Wireless Networking built-in. Face it, the 360 is the oldest, making it more obsolete, but the support is still there. Technology allows the firmware and software to be updated constantly to provide further support. Until the Xbox 360 can be totally redesigned, fitting 1080p native, to processor, and the like, I find it unreasonable to have a 6yr gap, I'd say 8-10 years.

[YodaPop]

Bought both consoles this time out prolly just get the new microsoft one next time around. Wonder if home will be out by 2011 looks doubtful right now

[nice_cuppa]

if i cant get the next gen of consoles by then i will have to go back to pc gaming as by then technology would have moved so far forward ps3/360 will be very dated !

look at pc now !
its already better !

[Daxx]

Do you guys get out much? I mean, you all should know that video games don't really matter so much in the grand scope of things.

So why fight over this? Why even come here anymore to argue over such trivial things?

See you guys later on my next monthly visit. Ciao.

[midgard229]

ms doesnt have confidence in the 360. they care only bout money. what happened to the days that making games was about making fun games, not only money....dumb ms. im stickin with my 360 and ps3 for a while, to bad.

besides if graphics get better we are going to see insane dev times, cost of games up and everything else up, screw that. xbox 720 shud come out in 6 more years not 2-3

[Spydiggity]

again...sony and microsoft are both major corporations. they both only care about money. stop acting like microsoft is evil and sony is good. they are both the products of capitalism.

[poopface1]

whats the big deal. Im sure microsoft will stillsupport the 360, and Theres no doubt that third parties will.

Supposedly the ps3 is gonna last til 2014? I doubt that, but if it is they can port the ps3 games to the 360, whil microsoft concentrates on the new system. In 3 years the consoles will be showing their age.

I bet we see the new nintendo system at that time too, or mabe even sooner.

[kazuma]

nintendo owns the handheld business and is now starting to take over sony on the console department (11 years for ps1 and 8 years for the ps2 and counting create enormous brand loyalty) but the wii is breaking all kinds of records in terms of sales (sorry guys microsoft is still in 3rd place, face it)
imo i think nintendo should invest in the wii (not creating those crappy peripherals like the wii wheel and stuff like that, but the wii board is a pretty cool idea) and keep pushing for experiences not available on the other consoles at a price the other consoles cannot compete with and keep pushing the edge both graphically and creativity-wise. if the wii success continues for some time, nintendo will be at a very good position to release their next-gen console before or at the same time microsoft releases their next xbox, sucessfully countering any kind of advance any company wants to make.

[verb3k]

Microsoft Always drops support off their consoles.

Microsoft and Xbox suck big time.

[Spydiggity]

but console life is 5 years. 6 year span is one extra year. sony said ps3 was a "10 year plan" umm...yeah that meant that the same way they meant it for ps2. they assumed ppl would still buy it and some companies would still make games for it. but there is no WAY i want the same graphics, physics, etc for 10 years. i want improvement. 5 years is a good span. i'm a little disappointed they are taking an extra year.

[tk]

They have Billions to throw at their strategy - which means - losing Billions until they can force the incumbents out of the market. Just the way Microsoft understands business. Seems like a well thought out timeline. I will not get a XB, but you have to respect - or at least be aware of their strategy. This is all out war for them. No prisoners. They will keep throwing Billions until the Sony threat to the home market is gone. A PS3 with Linux (if Sony promotes it better) can make a serious dent in the home market. MS will defend the market at all cost - even if it means following a business niche in which they don't really have any interest in.

Also - they want to be in hardware - like Apple. They would like to leverage their installed base to take a hardware lead and force other manufacturers out when they enter the market for MS PC's. So the XB is a good platform to test out all the DRM tricks to get ready for their move to a totally propriatary platform. Just a question of time. But the disrupters (Linux, Mac) with Wine might be just in time to disrupt this long term strategy. If the PS3/4 and Nintendo can stay in, with Linux / Mac eroding the server and desktop markets - MS could look a lot different. If OpenOffice takes of big time - then the two revenue streams - OS and Office - can be under seige - with faltering home Console box - could be tough times for MS.

[Space_cancer]

WTF is the problem here? The guy buys a three years old console and then complains that it will be no good anymore beyond 2011. Seriously, what a joke, six freaking years, gimme a faking break! And when 2011 comes the old good games suddenly will stop working? Hell, people are still playing Halo 2 on the old Box. Plus on the top, this mate is pretty sure when his calender shows 1.1.2011 Msoft and third parties will stop 360 support rigth away. In 2011 these 512mb memory chips and other this gen specs are looking so dated even if the CPU is the mighty Cell.

10 year plan? Count me out, big time. What this pal needs is a big house loan, these things have 40 years plan. I bet it he would be all juiced up with that.

[Godem]

Imo, i love the feeling of opening a new console, the quicker the better I say!