Xbox One is speeding towards its Chinese launch, which will happen in a little more than two weeks (16 days to be precise), and today you get a little glimpse on the pre-order situation.
i think its going to have a mildy successful launch then taper off but remain steady 400-500k sounds reasonable.
Looks like China will save Xbox One./s So much for closing the gap. MS should realize that Xbox One isn't relevant outside of US and UK. Hoping that any other country will save Xbox One or close the 3:1 gap is nothing but wishful thinking. They should focus on their primary markets where people actually buy Xbox.
well its still to early to call. it could have a great first week then just taper off. and you have to keep in mind ps4 will launch there eventually which might be more successful over there and actually widen the sales gap between XB1.
Never knew the gap was 3:1, source?
"16,000" so the install base will be 0.00001 in China oh! and China is one of the countries the PS4 didn't launch in yet, Sony set up a big partnership to sell the console over there and has bigger anticipation.. http://www.cinemablend.com/...
@NewMonday Wow that is really disproportionate. Thats a 5:1 margin.
You know what I DON`T CARE. Got to go, I have games to play on my Xbox.
If xb has strength in china, us, and uk not much else matters. Outside of Germany and France these are the only countries that are required for it to have strong support from developers. China is a really brilliant move for ms to get in first. This helps promote the many Chinese development shops to make their games on xb. It is not only about having Chinese gamers buy an xb, it is probably more about giving Chinese developers a way into the living room and then localizing the games around the world.
10 million - 5 million that's 2-1 my friend,you should stick to playing your PS4 instead of constantly trolling Xbox
Are you guys insane? This is just recerring to PREORDERS from ONE retailer who only covers about 2% of thr chinese population.... try reading once and a while. That is pretty impressive, also, lots of people, but a pretty small proportion (compared to somewhere like say, USA) who can afford it.
I love how everybody skips this part, because it doesn't fit with their agenda: "According to Tech in Asia, Suning holds 2% of the Chinese market share, which could mean a total of 780,859 pre-orders. Of course this is just an empirical calculation and it shouldn’t be taken as solid data, but if the Xbox One managed to get close to that number of consoles sold at launch in China, it would definitely be a success." That is one online retailer that holds 2% of the Chinese market alone has 16k pre-orders! Looks like the Chinese loves America. They sure love their cars!
Anyone remember this?: http://www.dualshockers.com... And how did things go a couple of days ago? Yeah, I think I'll just wait for the launch sales reports.
Online sales things went well. Stayed number 1 and 3 yobadashi camera for at least 24 hrs, and was top 20 on amazon aswell.
The business climate for American companies in china is very bad. It is taxed heavily by the government. It's a way of keeping their product more attractive than the imports. GM and Apple are also having a hard time there. The climate for American product is so bad that they are banding windows and getting their own operating system. If they do that, they will be able to control everything digital in their country including the media. So, MS has to win the heart of government in china and the patriots in japan, lol, no problem.
It will be interesting to see both X1's and PS4's numbers when they launch in China. I wonder how the market will welcome consoles.
@Arg Why all the hate
redwin: That applies to any company in China. China isn't for free and open market with competitive forces, unless it is for Chinese owned companies. US companies aren't even allowed to do business in China unless there is local (read Chinese) ownership. http://www.economist.com/no... I'm Chinese, but it is quite disgusting when you are used to open and free competitive market. That said, Japanese products don't sell nearly as well as American products. Case in point, Toyota and GM. GM is total sh!t cars, and they sell like hot cakes over there, and Toyota isn't as popular. I own a Toyota and they are way better cars! In short, nobody will ever win over China's government. They don't want to rely on others period! Japan's nationalism though, is an uphill battle in a nation where console gaming is in stark decline. Hardly worth pursuing other than trying to get the few notable Japanese game developers left.
they did focus on the places that want one and now the people who want one have one. mgith aswell stop production now jk people, i want MS to start to catch up because it only makes the industry better and consumers benefit in end
How do you figure? The PS4 is available in 4x the number of countries that the Xbone is. The Xbox 360 sold over 20 million consoles to those 60 or so countries as of 2011. Only a rabid fanboy would make such a ridiculous claim that Xbone is not relevant in countries it hasn't even started selling in. And considering how many more countries Sony has the PS4 in, I'm actually surprised that they don't have even higher sales.
Lol, is your 400-500k your professional view, you know the Chines market well then lol
16,000 is a very low number considering china has the largest population in the world. Just in a business sense I don't know if it's worth it for Microsoft to release it over there. Maybe long term but short term 16,000 is nothing
The basic idea is to get a foothold in untapped markets from my understanding.
Yet one of the poorest, they also love American products like vehicles and don't like Japanese products. The Chinese our notorious for hating the Japanese for killing millions of Chinese during world war 2. I think the Xbox has a better chance at selling.
@Docknoss That's an old view and doesn't apply anymore to the general public, it's like saying that the Japanese still hate America.
@OrangePowerz While I agree with your premise with the old views, you have the Japanese and American view backwards since it was the Japanese that attacked us first. So it would really be like us saying we (Americans) hate the Japanese which we don't. At this point all it is, is history that you remember. Hell, even Germany isn't frowned upon anymore. But just let Docknoss come up with whatever nonsense he needs to, to make him feel better about his own purchase.
Well this is just one retailer, to be fair. This is more than i expected in a country dominated by piracy and PC gaming
They are some of poorest people also including India they have people who just will not have cash to pay for this type of stuff and eat that's why free to play is very popular there. for industrial countries.
Not really, considering only a fraction of the country has buying power, only a faction of that are gamers, only a fraction of that are interested in console games. Now throw in the fact that these numbers are from retailer with just two percent marketshare, and you have what extrapolates to be a healthy launch. You should be looking at it in terms of the market, not the overall population.
You guys have HORRIBLE reading comprehension. The article says that the 16k preorders are from a single online retailer in China, who only commands about 2% market share. If other retailers have similar preorder numbers, it works out to be roughly 768,000 pre-ordered Xbones.
What's surprising from those numbers is that X1 with Kinect has way more orders then the Kinectless X1.
because kinect is actually one cool feature of xbox. Hardcore gamers doesn't care, but kinect is what makes xbox special
Rob your spot on. For me I had to get the Xbox one with Kinect as it really makes the console stand out. Each to there own though but I do expect the Xbox one with Kinect to see more bundles going forward but its good to have the option of not having Kinect for people who don't want it.
Maybe someone should take photos 2 to 3 hour after the console launch just to make it seem like no one bought the Xbox One in China, just like Japan.
How where the photos taken after launch when most of the stores were closed in the photos? It seems like they were taken before the stores opened, which is when people are usually lined up waiting to get a ticket to buy the product.
16k (800k if your doing estimations of all retailers) just to put that in perspective the population of China is 1.35 billion. USA is 313 million. 16k (800k) is extremely low.. This is not a fanboy shot or anything just crunching the numbers here if that number is true.. Not suprprising though as chinese havnt had consoles for many years now and love there PCs not to mention they have been importing playstations and wiis from Japan as close by. So I think some may be waiting for that.. Unsure if PS will sell though in a country that loves its PC gaming and hasnt had a console legally in a long time.
The thing is the Chinese population is totally different than the american one. Consoles have been banned there for over a decade, the gaming population has therefore been pirating and pc gaming for a long time. Also a lot of people in China don't have disposable income to just go spent the equivalent of 800 bucks on a Xbone. Im not sure how good the launch numbers will be but 16k from ONE retailer 2 weeks before launch is not enough to go on at all.
Dude just knock it off, If it does in fact 780,859 that would be 200,000 over what Microsoft predicted, and that is nothing but success. Besides, this data is only from ONE retailer.
You've got an amateurish way of interpreting data. While the US has a lower population, a higher percentage of Americans would have the income to justify a console purchase. Also, the console market is proportionately larger in the US. And the Xbox is proportionally more expensive in china. Also, if I'm not mistake, only the free-zone in china will participate in this market. You are making a 1:1 comparison, but the comparison is invalid.
China showing some love for Xbox One. WELCO METOT HEDAR KSIDE
damn thats huge /s
http://cdn.techinasia.com/w... China will definitely help em turn the tide now.
...even if you do the math (assuming thats accurate, which all our figures are armchair LOL) thats STILL only 800,000... it will still help, but that says nothing about how many ps4s will sell there...
A recent survey showed 5:1 margin in favour of Ps4 so if you do the calculations the Ps4 would sell 4 000 000
Of course it will ... when the two major eletronic retailers for tech, JD and Tmall, dont have 1 thousand pre orders each. Yet those numbers could be wrong for xbox sake. Dont forget the console is region locked and they arent able to play games like Halo, Titanfall, Cod etc
Doubtful. Didn't we get the same kind of news about Japanese pre-orders? and look at how that turned out. http://www.dualshockers.com... http://www.dualshockers.com...
sony will be there soon enough with all their free to play games
16,000 out of 1.4 Billion. Not too bad, lol.
Someone missed that it's one retailer.
Still not a lot for a popular online retailer in a country with over a billion ppl 2 weeks before launch. Trying to say it is makes no sense.
@MRMagoo You must have missed that this is from a small online retailer that only has 2% marketshare. So that doesn't include all the other larger online retailers or the local retail shops.
You do realize an extremely large majority either don't game or don't have disposable income
If kinect becomes popular anythings possible though I do think it will sell more like rice pudding than rice due to it's hardware/games and price.
Guys please read the page before commenting. The 16k is only for one retailer. This is great news. Just imagine what the PS4 could do if the Xbox One can do these kind of numbers.
The trouble is that consoles in this region are classed as a luxury item, quite unaffordable to a fair percentage of those 1.5billion. So once the Elite have made their purchase they are out of the market.
I believe Time Magazine's article alluded to this.
Just imagine what the ps4 can..... Give it a break man. Just be happy for the xb1 and move along.
Why dont you just be happy for the XB1 instead of downing my speculations for the market at large. And after some more research, it turnd out that I was a little to enthusiastic... the numbers for XB1 in China are much less than I thought. NeoGaf has already compiled a much better list. Just take whatever you were expecting and devide it by 10. Then keep subtracting until you hit reality.
Wtf are you chirping about? It's like you read my comment and auto generated a random response. Lol. I'm not referencing your speculation of wether the ps4 will do well or not, what I'm saying is this is an xb1 article. Just give your shout out to the xb1 and move along. There is no need to mention the ps4 at all. Your clearly free to mention but I'll also feel free to tell you to move along :)
"Your clearly free to mention but I'll also feel free to tell you to move along :)" Fair enough. I agree.
From a PS4 gamers perspective, this isn't good news, nor was the poor launch in Japan. Competetion is what keeps things fresh. I already feel that Sony are slacking a bit when it comes to updates and new features and the bigger the gap grows the less reason they have to bother. As long as PS4 is crushing the competition I doubt we will see much improvement. If the sales were more or less even both sides would be battling it out and always trying to out do each other.
Why do people feel the need to make a "my d*** is bigger than yours" about EVERY EFFIN XBOX ONE AND PS4 article!!! Half of you are on here 24/7 arguing there's no way you actually game!! You must be losers who still live with your parents an have nothing to your own name to claim! That or kids probably the latter though! Xbox One will be alright
N4G logic... I NEED TO JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE BY SMASHING ON OTHER PEOPLES PURCHASE! When in the end, MOST of us own both systems (3-5 years down the line)
The Ultimate takeaway should be that there is definitely some demand for consoles in China. The only thing I wish is that their government wasn't so entrenched in everything. Thats why they have to have region locked and rigid game approval processes. Everything seems so micromanaged.
I know right ...Talk about insecurity and the sad part is PC r**es them both and here they are talking about old outdated hardware like it really matters which sell more.... Sony and MS must be paying them something for all the PR they do for them.
Yes, because interjecting PC into console debates- like you just did- shows SO much more confidence, right? Which PC company is paying you to always downplay consoles?
@smoothtroll You type some rubbish kid.
A lot of people just like going to the store and buying products personally. I don't trust online delivery and dropping off packages at my door for someone to steal.
JPs4 will struggle to hit big numbers in china...let alone air force one! Consoles are just not..... cool? Accepted? Mainstream? In china. They are big PC gamers. Also note how I named the consoles.... But I hope they all sell well, Chinese dev support could bring some great games possibly, at least games from different cultures and backgrounds might cone through. Something to hope for, which is why we really should hope they sell well, and drop this fanboy war. Another thing the Chinese market just don't get, the stupid fanboys!
wow 16,000 pre orders mmmm yeah I can see that translating into........very low interest and sales just like Japan and the other tier 3 countries.
Thats just from one retailer, they hold around 2% market share. If you read the article they're the smallest retailer selling the console.