Umm... I don't think Vita is even competing for the same customers so.....
secondly won't this make it hard for devs and everyone to make sure if the second stick is supported or not? All i see at first glance is confusion amongst the people and devs alike.
Same with more buttons. All the new games that support and take advantage of those will not be playable on older 3ds?
Not trying to start anything just caught off guard with this news and these are the first things that come to my mind. I don't really get why would they release this and not hold these features off for next gen.
@insomnium2 the 2nd stick add on for the 3ds and 3ds xl has the extra 2 buttons on and are used in games like resident Evil. So if developers start to push the 2nd stick and buttons more people can get the add on.
"Satoru Iwata also mentioned that several other titles are in development exclusively for the New Nintendo 3DS. These will not be playable on the old 3DS models."
that is just crazy, they're literally forcing us to buy some half-assed next-gen 3ds.. and I just bought a 3ds xl a few months ago, smh.
handheld market is shrinking, basically just for Japanese games, 3DS and Vita are fighting over a corps.
Vita can survive because it is an extension to PS4 and doesn't sell at a loss. Nintendo are also planing on making their next gen platforms united, 3DS is the last dedicated closed platform.
I buy a 3DS this year assuming that in 3 years...THREE FLIPPING YEARS IN...if they weren't going to release a 3DS with a second stick built in, they never were. And what do they do, when it's probably halfway or more through it's life cycle? Release one with a second control stick.
Oh well. It's not like a lot of games support it. And with most of the 3DS owners not having it, I'm sure that won't change much.
They could have had it since the beginning, but nope...now we have to wait ANOTHER generation for two control nubs to be standard in handhelds.
This is great news. I would imagine in keeping with tradition that this unit supports all previous 3ds games as well as its own enhanced games.
After playing games like resident evil and nano assault..I cant play them any other way than with a 2nd analog control.
New games will likely take advantage of these extra buttons. it may be an inconvenience for those who just got a 3ds but it has been on the market for a few years and we were due for a newer model at some point.
those who still had not picked up a 3ds can either get one of the outgoing models for cheap and play the wealth of 3ds & ds games for it. OR...wait and pick up this one to play new games as well as previous 3ds games.
Wait, the Vita isn't competing for the same customers? When did this happen?
So what is the Vita competing for? Enough with the excuses for the system, of course the Vita is competing for the same customers. You don't make a dedicated video game handheld and say we are not competing for the same customers.
Now there is confusion because a second stick is added. Is this NOT what everyone complained the 3DS lacked and what they really wanted? Now there's going to be confusion?
And where are these new buttons? I didn't see anywhere that there were any extra buttons, just an extra analog stick.
Nintendo's target audience are kids. Sony's isn't hence they don't compete for the same gamers. There is some overlap (as there always is) but still.
"Now there is confusion because a second stick is added. Is this NOT what everyone complained the 3DS lacked and what they really wanted? Now there's going to be confusion? "
This is just silly. You think the people who complain on gaming sites are the kind of people that buy these things? For Vita that might be the case but 3ds is for kids and there are no kids on gaming sites arguing about gaming.
Point is if you see complaining here that means jack sh*t about what the real world thinks about the 3ds. And yes if the multiple iterations of 3ds and then the 2ds wasn't enough to confuse people this will blend in quite nicely......on a gaming forum that is LOL. Things are not so clear for the average 11yo kid as they are to you.
Well I've got both and only got Vita Recently, great system the Vita but it's struggled against the 3DS so far can't see this'll help the cause at all.
Just goes to show how advanced the Vita hardware is compared to the 3DS. We already had a 2nd, larger analog stick and faster CPU and RAM 3 years ago (the Vita). I still believe the PSVita was launched ahead of its time.
Although honestly, even if I already have a Vita, I'm thinking of getting this 'New' 3DS just so I can play Bravely Default, Xenoblade and Yoshi's Island.
Kinda sucks though for existing 3DS owners. I can't imagine if Sony released a Vita 2 with its own exclusive games. This New 3DS is essentially a brand new handheld line. I think Nintendo just wants to the benefits of the '3DS' branding, avoid risks of a new brand, and force its fanbase to adopt the new system early on. Should have been called the 'Super 3DS' or something else...
@Tekolie "Overreaction much? The 3DS and Vita shall both live on till the end of this generation. I think you're being foolish if you believe otherwise." --True. The Vita (with its massive power advantage over the 3DS) can theoretically last this whole gen. Sony can just do a relaunch/rebrand/remodel with new games and more affordable memory cards. Technically, the Vita hardware is just gonna get cheaper over time.
Imagine if Sony released a "New Vita" with L2,R2, clickable thumb sticks, microSD card slot, and FF Type-0 remake as an exclusive launch title, lol. That would definitely bring in new buyers but it would alienate existing Vita owners like me (or force me to upgrade)
This is "The iPhone effect" spilling over to gaming handhelds.
No it shouldn't. This is a handheld not a smartphone. You'd think a company who tried this very same concept years ago on consoles (Ram PAK) and failed miserably would understand fragmenting your install base is a terrible idea.
The problem is fantards were too busy gloating over the Vita's deathknell that they didn't realize the 3DS was on pace to sell 80 million units less than its predecessor. I knew once Nintendo, on the heels of releasing the likes of Pokemon and MH, slashed sales forecasts of 5 million 3DSs, the HH industry itself is eroding at an alarming rate. I'm sorry but I completely disagree with Nntendo's solution to reinvigorating the market. They ran out of colors, made the screen as large as it could go, and childproofed it but it isn't enough? Let's make our loyal fanbase foot the bill again. Gotta buy'em all right?
Yet every iteration did exactly the same thing, play the games. My PSP2000 sure as hell wasn't better than later models but I still could play the newest games all the same.
If Nintend announces this new model as a way of shortening the traditional lifespan of hanhelds in order to compete with the smartphone industry, I have no problem with it. But that's not what they're doing now is it?
Right? All its missing is the sparkles on the buttons and you have yourself a winner.
Honestly who really cares about most of this stuff?
A better camera? Who the hell doesnt take pics with their phone? "Oh wanna see a cool photo i took, hold on let me turn on my 3ds" Its like asking someone on the street for the time, chances are...they are checking their phone not a wristwatch.
Better internet browsing? I have a 3ds and honestly...didnt even turn that on once.
Colored buttons? That was an issue????
Second Stick? You mean that tiny little thing that looks annoying as hell to use?
Better Battery? Okay thats not a bad feature but come on...the battery isnt even that bad, especially if you turn off 3D
They just screwed everyone who recently bought an "older model"
Edit: At least it looks like it's really a significant enough upgrade, thus it can be considered a new handheld actually.
Mindbogglingly stupid move regardless. Cause even if they continue to support the "old 3DS", they have spitted their audiences. Not to mention the confusion this will spark...
Not true. For one it's not coming out until next year, they're giving everyone plenty of advanced warning.
There is no split. Any games exclusive to the new one will only be exclusive because they couldn't run on the original hardware. The old 3DS isn't losing games, you're just getting access to a couple extra if you get the new one.
Think people. They announced today that Xenoblade couldn't run on the original hardware, and the announcement specifically says the only games that will be exclusive are ones that would not have been able to run.
The Vita isn't really competing to begin with sales wise (although the Vita is every bit as good).
This new 3DS just made things awkward for developers, who now have to choose between making games with the original controls or games which support the new controls. If you go with the newer option then you've pretty much alienated 40 million 3DS owners, or you have to offer them an inferior version.
This handheld had to be made specifically for Smash, because after playing it, it's fun, but the 3DS controls was an extremely limiting factor in it's full potential.
This is nice, but to do it in the middle of the lifecycle is a sketchy choice, and we'll have to wait and see does it hurt or help Nintendo refresh the 3DS to continue it's current success, and how bad it hurts developers.
You realize that's not even a second stick. That's more like the tiny mouse cursor that dates back to the IBM Thinkpads. There is nothing in this article that suggests "better" 3D.
The article was about
- Better CPU with HTML-5 Capability - Swappable Covers - Micro SD card support - NFC Support - Weighs 1.2x's more than Current 3DS/XL - October 11th launch for Japan
Very cool, though I think Nintendo has a naming problem lately. They didn't learn their lesson from Wii U? People got confused, and thought it was still the same old Wii. It should not be called 3DS anything, it needs to be rebranded so it will stand out.
Actually no it's not. More powerful hardware, faster download speeds, bigger screens, less blur, better 3-D viewing angles, etc. Basically the hardware performance is improved on all fronts.
sigh.. I just upgraded from a 3DS to an XL when A Link Between Worlds came out. I guess if they release a Zelda version of this "new" 3DS I will have to upgrade again.
At least you avoid having to use the ugly circle pad pro attached to the bottom of the device with the newer unit. It's about time they had two analog sticks..
Hopefully it will be out in time for Pokemon ORAS. I have the original 3DS but after playing Pkmn XY on a XL for a few minutes I was spoiled. What about our downloaded stuff does that just switch with the SD card?
Same as the first two guys, glad I'll be able to get Xenoblade on it, that'll be sweet as! I've been thinking of getting a 3DS since it came out, but this'll do it. Just disappointed that it's coming out next year! I wanna play Smash when it comes out...
I was about to buy a 3DS XL (Zelda special edition) but there were rumors of a new 3DS model coming out. I'm glad that I waited since this model looks pretty cool to me especially with the secondary circle pad.
Oh it most certainly will get exclusive games. BUT, Nintendo has stated that those games will only be exclusive if they couldn't run on the original hardware.
So original 3DS owners lose nothing. Only difference is we're getting the option to upgrade and access to even more games
Don't forget 3DS LL. I think Nintendo is going way overboard with these revamps and models but hey if it sells it sells so keep on pumping I guess. Not my cup of tea though.
Nintendo droped the bomb!!
Godam this new 3DS is final nail in the cofin of VIta. Holy shit.
Edit: Includes:
- better 3D
- second stick
- NFC built-in
- coloured buttons
- more buttons
-- better battery (up to 7h)
- suport for Amiboo
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sigh.. I just upgraded from a 3DS to an XL when A Link Between Worlds came out. I guess if they release a Zelda version of this "new" 3DS I will have to upgrade again.
At least you avoid having to use the ugly circle pad pro attached to the bottom of the device with the newer unit. It's about time they had two analog sticks..
I was expecting a 2nd stick, but another set of shoulder buttons, NFC, faster internet and better 3D angles?
Not bad, Nintendo. Not bad at all.
I want!!
Twin sticks at last