PS4 demand remains far higher than competitors in Germany, with WiiU securing the second place and Xbox One even beaten by Xbox 360.
Hmm, why all this difference in Germany? Sure, PS4 is in the first place everywhere, but generally Xbox One has stronger demand than WiiU.
Not really, Wii U is still outselling it worldwide.
I'm not surprised https://www.youtube.com/wat...
"Xbox One Demand Lower Than Xbox 360" Wut..... Wow.
You're right, WiiU seems to be on the rise, at last.
WiiU + PS4 is the way of common sense this gen, gamers in Germany know whats up.
Of course it is. Wii U launched a title from one of its top 3 selling game series of the last 15 years (Mario Kart) and Xbone has yet to release a Halo, let alone a GeOW.
Xbox has never done well outside of the UK so this is no surprise. For Xbox one to be successful they need to be focusing all efforts on US & UK and at least they can cut costs in other regions and sustain success in these primary regions. But as it stands now they are losing in every region which is just foolish. You have to win at home first before taking your game on the road
In the popularity contest they're winning... I for one, am not a sheep and will buy what I want/prefer regardless of whether others see it as right or better. I hate people getting on the band-wagon but I also don't go the other route just to spite the majority.
i agreed by mistake, sorry :) Wii U is becoming the hot device right now, check the last global sales numbers.
With Mario kart and upcoming titles coming Wii U is getting very interesting.
Wii u has become the console to have beside or Ps4 xbox one, although it has a lower hardware makes it clear that the games are that run a console and not the hardware.
@Festano, not to say Splatoon! I tried it out at an event and it is a really good awesome game. I actually can see competitive events based on this game.
Well, it may have changed recently. The Wii U is outselling the XBO worldwide on a weekly basis right now.
Must be the Mario Kart fever
Yeah im not gonna lie i expected it to have slipped back into third on a weekly basis, but its been beating XB1 every week since the end of May. People thought i was being a hater or xbox fanboy or something whenever i said that, but i really am glad to be wrong in this case. We'll see what MCC and SOD do for the xbone, but Wii U has some heavy hitters this year as well.
This might have something to do with Xbox One's failure. http://www.tweaktown.com/ne...
With the bad press the X1 had, the only way to save it is with exclusives, more exclusives and even more exclusives. Multiplatform games are not going to save the X1 like they did with the X360. The way this is going Microsoft will have to release at least double the exclusives released on WiiU and PS4, if they want people interested in their console. Microsoft needs to heavily invest in 1st party studios.
i agree, but there is one other option... PROVE that kinect 2.0 is nessassary for a true next-gen experience... its STILL the differentiating factor between the x1 and the ps4, so make it a strenght, instead of a weight around the x1's ankle... wheres the kinects killer app? kinect 2.0 needs its own "Halo"
After they unbundled it? Not going to happen, it would split the user base and get even more negativity as they waited for the unbundle to present something meanningful to the accessory. But more than that, I believe they never even planned to really support Kinect... I mean, they can't be that clueless! Who seriously wants to be jumping in front of the TV for most or all of it's games in the future? They must had known that Kinect was not the next step all along. Motion control was a passing trend. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are people interested in Kinect that are "legit" gamers (pardon the poorly based expressions, but this is already too long for deeper explanations) , but the number is very limited and hardly most will see it as the next big evolution in gaming... It's obviou that the huge success motion controls had past gen was a momentary thing, just look at Wii software sales throughout years, it had a big Spike fulled by random crap motion games and WiiFitness-ish games between 2008 and 2010, but it obviously wasn't helping with any other games salling and the platform itself was far behind inmost markets after that moment. That point at what we all know, call it casuals or however you see fit, but the people buying those stuff were not really into gaming, they bought a Wii and a single game to be part of the fun everyone else was talking about and than they left it to collect dust. And MS must have been fully aware of it, mind you. They had firsthand experience with Kinect on 360, somewhat late to the motion control fever, they were very successful on the first six months or so, but as dead as it get ever since (which means: a couple of Ubi weirdos will still support it and some dozens of hipsters were still buying Kinect games, but that's it, way less sales than Kinects sold numbers suggest). That's why I'm pretty sure there were never plans to get this development focus towards Kinect 2.0 anyway... In fact, I believe the plan was to get rid of kinect all along, just as soon as it covered it's purpose, Kinect 2.0 was a marketing card. The first Kinect raised interest in 360 for a while, maybe it could do the same for the next console in it's early days and pull MS ahead of competition early and be an opition later to cut price. It just happened that the original plan backfired. Bundled Kinect 2.0 never atracted the non-gaming crowd while it made the XB1 higher priced and hated by some "hardcore" gamers, which may or not be related to PS4 so badly outselling it, but didn't matter, it had to be dissed immediatly for XB1 to have a pricecut and remain competitive.
Its very important for people to understand that the 360 did well mostly because of mistakes on others parts, not so much MS being brilliant... the 360 released before the PS3, but that wasn't MS executing some insanely detailed plan, it was because BD diodes screwed up the PS3's initial launch window (which was scheduled for just a month or two after the 360 in some territories)...that same situation also caused the sky rocketing price of the PS3; another win for MS... the only real thing MS did was handed over money to 3rd party publishers, a lot of which were just to get a day 1 release on their system with the PS3... I'm not saying in those moves that MS was bad for consumers...quite the opposite...it was the first time a company was able to remove what was almost a monopoly on 3rd party software for over 10 years...shareholders hated it, though... either way...all this is pretty obvious that MS really didn't have a tangible idea of what they did right last generation...because all they really did was picked up Sony's rather substantial fumbles multiple times...big difference now, because Sony has yet to fumble anything related to the PS4... both need more software, imo...but MS is in quite a whole and its pretty obvious at this point that there is no way out...and kinect 2.0 or whatever was never close to something that would save the system...hence the split for a price cut...
Wii U confirmed for second place in germany this gen. That 40% marketshare looool - http://www.dualshockers.com...
If we consider how the new consoles are mediocre, it is strange and surprising
Mediocre? Yeah, sure...
Well, not all of them.
Just the Xbone unfortunately.
Not really... it´s only because most (or at least myself) can not comprehend how a roughly 50% weaker system can be twice as big in volume as its competitor and still come with an external brick. Now if the XB1 was half the size and had a much smaller external psu (like a dreamcast), it would have probably gotten better feedback from the costumers around the world, even with its ~50% weaker components. How can you make it twice as big as the PS4 and still be ca. 50% weaker overall? That makes no sense...
Sounds like someone is trying to justify to themselves to stay with the last gen console.
Only ONE of them is mediocre..;)
I might get a Wii U, if they make a model with a decent sized internal HDD. 8Gb - 32GB, with DLC being the same size as on PS4/X1 is laughable.
Sighhh...I hate to agree, but the HDD space is ridiculous on the WiiU. That doesn't stop me from recommending the hell out of this system (I love it so, so much), but I'm staying away from the Nintendo eShop because it's a pain to connect an external HDD PLUS, there aren't really any special benefits of downloading games besides having instant access.
Yeah, I kinda wanted to go all digital this gen, like on my PS4. I've been wanting more and more to get a Wii U with each exclusive that comes out, but I really am hoping they get like a 500GB one soon or something.
your using a bad hard drive or something, the best one to use is the one I post in the link, there are no problems with it http://www.amazon.com/Toshi...
If they did they would have to make a bigger system, the current one is too small to include anything but flash memory. That would be pretty funny if they released a fat Wii U after a slim one.
I'm sure they could rearrange the internals to fit a 2.5in HDD inside a near-future model. It was silly to come out with 32GB as the max internal size, when you have games with multiple GB DLC downloads. It's nonsensical really, not everyone wants an external connected to their console.
Although I understand your problem, I can't fault the logic behind Nintendo's decision. With the ever-changing price of hard disks and flash memory, it's better and cheaper for the end user to just buy external storage if they need it for the Wii U. Considering how much Microsoft charge for a 360 drive, I welcome Nintendo's decision to just let us sort it out ourselves :)
I get it you do not want to pay for a external hard drive but it is the better option. Did you forget in the last generation how much it cost for 360 owners to buy extra memory for their xbox, well lets assume you did not forget......The link on the bottom is the hard drive I use with my Wii U, works perfect, no slow down, no framerate issue for any of my games and I get to do everything that you doing with your ps4, which is have everything digital, if anyone tell you their hard drive is a hassle with the Wii U they are lying, everyone who use the hard drive I put on the bottom have not return their hard drive or have any hard drive failure, so think about it, I got mines for 50 dollars http://www.amazon.com/Toshi...
My two consoles this gen are Ps4(Primary) and Wii U just may be the xb1 its a big maybe though.
Same here. Rocking the PS4/Wii U/PC combo this gen. (Vita, as well.) I'll be getting a 3DS for Super Smash though. And maybe the XBO at some point for Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break.
I'm already doing the same, except I'll be waiting for the PC port of QB instead of buying the Xbo.
Haha. I'm sort of hoping for that, too. I really only want QB and SO. So, I don't want to spend $400 to play them.
PS4/WiiU/PC for me too! except... I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A WIIU YET!!! AAARG!!! : ( (wanna play Mario Kart SOOOoooOOooooOOOO bad!!!)
There are a few interesting titles coming to the Wii U, Im getting tempted by one over a Xbone, I can understand why Germany is too
It seems like the Xbox One is just a very unpopular console in certain places. Even though it had an impressive launch, those sales typically came from the Xbox faithfuls. both Sony and Nintendo also have their die hard fanboys as well. The problem is the Xbox One has been wrapped in negativity long before it even launched. There are thousands of articles all over the internet about the Always online DRM policies, Kinect collecting your data, being 50% less powerful than PS4 but cost $100 more, being difficult to develop for, Indies despising Microsoft's policies, parity clause, the next water cooler, TVTVTV, Xbox one being built for advertisements, if you can't get online then get a 360, deal with it, Xbone, etc. Not saying those are my feelings toward the console, but those are all articles scattered throughout the internet from the moment it was announced to now. That creates a very negative vibe and it's just a hard sell for a lot of people. I remember when i was just trying to gather information of the console all I had to do was type Xbox one in google and nothing but negative articles popped up on the search page. First impression is very important and I really think that's whats hurting them the most. Again those are not my feelings on the subject, but to the casual gamer that's not frequently on these kind of sites and have a basic knowledge of tech, that can be a terrible 1st impression. That's my take on it.
Wow! But totally expected. :)
But, but, but Xbone SKU without Kinect is gonna sell a gazillion!!!!
Not when the actual value was less than the original sku which came with both camera and game. . Proper slight of hand there in my opinion. Not surprised by these numbers. Europe has generally been Sony territory.
Ive got the PS4 and XBox1. Both are great. A lot of you are missing out. Go get next gen ASAP!
That's my setup aswell, PS4/Xbox One and its all I need for right now. New Zelda and Metroid will get me on Wii U eventually.
No i'll get the other system when it has more than 3 games out i wish to play and at price point that is a little more reasonable than $400.
Ps4 & Wii-U.... Go next gen ASAP ______(O_0)________ p.S. i'M A german/wisconsin/californian. -CH(b)EERS!
I have to admit, bad Xbox One news is beginning to wear me down.
Lets go PS4 lets go WII-U .. and i'm not even a Nintendo fan hahaha
Germans are known for great engineering. Probably why they appreciate the sleek ps4 which is way smaller, packs more power(at least 30%) and also has an internal power supply. Xbone is just sloppy
Wait till the xbox one is released in Vatican... and San Marino in September!
I laughed a little bit.
I am a German as well but my people loves to stick with the products which they know good.If something is ok then ok,never try the better one because the other product is a risk and we dont love to take risks at all.Everything must be guaranteed.PlayStation TM was always the number one console of this country because on the box says it is a PlayStation.We Germans are narrow minded.I admit that. The Xbox One was not available at any store till February in Germany that makes the article bullshit and the original site billiger.de what a joke is this?
Speak for yourself, fellow german, not for me or germans in general. It's your narrow mind, your fear of risk, your brand obidience. The ppl I know favor PS4, because it's the better product for a better price. Period.
I think they are just rational. its makes sense to go with the console that's proven its worth over and over again.
You are not all Germans? SMH
I am german too... Xbox One was not available till february??? Sorry but THIS is bullshit. Since the launch (and before the launch as preorder) Xbox One has been available in every store I've been too (Media Markt, Saturn, GameStop, Expert etc.). Your reasoning and statements about germans is laughable at best but if it is your opinion who am I to judge? There are several reasons why Xbox One doesn't have such a high demand in Germany (e.g. missing features which aren't available here on Xbox One).
Microsoft should write a book "How to FU$^ it all up!"
Wii U is outselling Xbox One WW? Damn..
Well, considering the Wii U is available worldwide, and the Xbox One isn't, that's hardly surprising.
Both of them are available in Germany, which is what this article is about
360 for life!
Ok, you keep playing your 360 for the rest of your life while everyone else enjoys newer consoles with new games and experiences.
Unfortunately Phil Spencer is trying to rebuild everything from scratch, we would see if 2015 will bear good results to the console.
I think most of the damage is already done. It's not easy playing catchup, especially when Sony has far superior first party studios (most of which are supposedly working on unannounced PS4 games).
wow good for Sony. they deserve it