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GTA IV vs. Saints Row 2: Volition's big Mistake

This gameplayer article examines the latest Saints Row 2 trailer and what it actually means for the game and developer Volition. They argue that they've made a big error in releasing the trailer.

"Volition – or at least publisher THQ – has little to gain and plenty to lose by inviting comparisons to GTA IV, let alone actually calling out inconsequential side components from their opponent and comparing them to their game's core gameplay mechanics. The trailer smells like fun for about five seconds, before quickly beginning to reek like desperation - not a good sign so far out from the game's release."

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Silogon5826d ago

I don't see how. Saints Row 2 looks better and more appealing and I think their sense of humor alone is priceless and worth the admission. Their game allows for user freedom, Gta4 does not. You can create your own player and join gangs at will, on Gta4 you can't.

I also think Rockstar is butt hurt over the fact they're getting out classed and it's almost like they want to be the only game in town that offers a large scale, ugly, pop up riddled world full of slow down.

Let's face it, living in rockstars world makes everyone enter matrix mode at the drop of a hat. you'll be walking around or driving just fine and then all of a sudden you just slow down for no apparent reason.

Strange.

SlappingOysters5826d ago

this is kind of off topic, but I have never had such problems with slow down. Which version of the game are you playing? On X360 if you have one of those early dodgy ROMs I know it can happen a lot, which means it is not Microsoft, not Rockstars, fault.

sandip7875826d ago

i kind of agree.
theres no way GTA deserves all the hate its been given. GTA has always had a certain 'something' that other games try to duplicate, but can never seem to replicate.

thesummerofgeorge5825d ago

I totally agree, especially with the part about comparing random things you can do in gta like shop for clothes etc to core gameplay aspects. The trailer was in bad taste and can't have done much good... Not to mention how much GTA has done for the genre, regardless of how they or anyone else feels about GTA IV, Saints Row wouldn't exist without it.

FCOLitsjustagame5825d ago (Edited 5825d ago )

It does seem like an act of desperation to me. If your stuff is good you can be class and you don’t need to go on and insult anyone else. Good games speak for themselves.

Do I think GTA was the greatest game ever and deserving of 10's, no but it is a great game with engaging characters. It is what it is and doesn’t try to be anything else. Saints Row looks like a game that is desperately trying to be something its not, instead of just being what it is and their advertising campaign just highlights that.

Now SR has set it self up to fail. Before people would have just said "well its not as good as GTA but it’s a good game" or even "its as good as GTA"...now no matter how good it is if its not BETTER then GTA it will be ripped to shreds. Of course I am sure they and their fans will just blame the media, hype, people who don’t "get it", everything except the gameplay.

If they can backup their trash talk then good for them, I guess, but they still look like azzes. Sure some ball-players talk sht and back it up, but people still call them sht behind their back and discard them as the punks they are. But class guys can back it up too AND are respected by all (except the punks). I don’t know why you would want to be a sht punk if you really got the skill and could be a class, respected star.... but then I guess some (like the developers of SR) seem to think that sht punk is somehow "cool". But that coolness wears off once the sht punk cant perform anymore, no one sticks up for them once they have no more to offer where class has respect forever.

nice_cuppa5825d ago (Edited 5825d ago )

saints row 2 looks much more FUN.

i would rather have crackdown 2 though !

LeShin5825d ago

Agreed! It's a pity I never played Crackdown, I hear it is very good.

crck5825d ago

But every single mission is hunt and kill blah blah. But yeah a sequel would have been great. As for Saint's Row 2. Car Bombs and human shields are confirmed to be in the game. Sounds like a blast to me.

SlappingOysters5825d ago

that is exactly what the trailer was designed to make you think. So now when you get the game and it has wonky controls, boring world and no Euphoria you'll go 'this sucks' twice as hard.

It got delayed two months as well, just to add extra 'oh o' to the whole scenario.

I hope it is good, but I call GTA a solid 9 and Saints Row 2 a shaky 7.5 or so.

Slayer OP5825d ago

Have you forgotten how the last game was completly outclassed by GTA san andreas. It couldnt even stand up to a last gen title with crdboard box graphics. Why? Because it an unoriginal clone. It tries to be GTA but it cant. The developers need to get some new idea instead of blatently stealing them from great games they cant live up to.

LeShin5825d ago (Edited 5825d ago )

But that's exactly the point, the original was outclassed by GTA SAN ANDREAS. Sorry, but San Andreas simply destroys GTA4 in terms of gameplay and, most importantly, FUN! Everyone seems to forget the reason people bought into the GTA series. Was GTA ever known for it's brilliant graphics? No, it was for how fun it was. GTA4 to me was sorely lacking in that area in my opinion GTA:SA will forever be for me, the best GTA. If Saints Row 2 can copy and improve on all the fun I had in GTA:SA, then it's already better than GTA4. I'll let frame rate, pop-ups and graphically inferior character models slide if it meant I really like playing the game........which is exactly the same way I felt about GTA:SA.

If I want to see stunning graphics, I'll watch FF Advent Children.

GTA 4 just got traded in today by me.....nuff said.

N2NOther5825d ago

I had a lot of fun playing GTA IV...Sucks to be you.

Personally, I'm looking forward to SR 2 for the simple fact that it's the best GTA rip-off out there.

ape0075825d ago

agree man,gta4 compeletly sucks compared to awesome (one of the best game ever made)gta:san andreas

Idon't know how rockstar ruined gta with 4

rockstar,you know that in your deep hearts

the question is,did rockstar north really devoloped gta4

rockstar,I don't want you to be like rare.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies29d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken29d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing6929d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker29d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing6929d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt29d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken29d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Mainline Grand Theft Auto trailers ranked from best to worst

As we have all been graced by the release of Grand Theft Auto 6's trailer, we're ranking the best and worst GTA trailers to date.

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purple101171d ago

We be getting these posts All week now lads. Someone noticed a number plate ... Someone noticed a billboard... I can see it now

Just go on YouTube and watch one of the many videos dissecting the whole 1minite 30secs worth.

This site supposed to be for news.

roadkillers171d ago

These updates on N4G are going to ruin whats rest of this site. Unfortunate since I was one of the first members.. The site shows unsecure when i login as well.

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Grand Theft Auto 4 Anniversary: The Beginning of the Age of RAGE

Grand Theft Auto 4 is an important game for Rockstar, not least because it was the first title in the franchise to use the newly created RAGE engine.

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franwex388d ago

Wasn’t the Table Tennis game the first to use RAGE?

isarai388d ago

Was about to say the same, but they do say first "in the franchise" so 🤷

cammers1995388d ago

The fact it hasnt been remastered is insane.

Abear21388d ago

Rage engine made driving on the sidewalk in cinematic slow motion camera a blast