MGS4 only 33GB? MGO allows 1 character free...more for a fee?

On the eve of its worldwide launch, found on NeoGAF forums, there is evidence (photos) of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots taking up a total capacity of 33.2GB despite being widely rumored as the first game to fill up a 50GB dual-layered Blu-ray Disc.

Also found is the Metal Gear Online sign-up screen where the player is informed that they are allowed to create one (1) MGO character for free, while more can be purchased later.

Hit the jump.

[NegativeCreepWA]

I hope this isn't real.

Edit: I could care less if the game is 33 or 50 gigs. It'll be great no matter how much space it uses. And a lot of that space is used for multiple languages. I'm talking about paying for extra characters.

[sonarus]

Please...this is such bullcrap. Where is the 33GB proof? Only proof for new character...oh i see

[fishd]

there should be some hidden file or something.if you select all of the files in ffXII disk they are just 5.4 MEGABYTE!!!

[sonarus]

Maybe, maybe not. All i know is devs had to cut stuff to fit that game on 50GB. Kojima came on record and said 50GB is not enough. Kojima is not the kind of dev who tells lies to hype his game up. I call bull in all shapes and sizes.

[NO_PUDding]

This is almost as much of a *gasp* moment as:

"They all died 100 years ago"

[znu]

it can be easily faked(the size one)

all you have to do is rename an image, and name some random files 33 gb in size to that of a ps3 format game

it's very simple really

he could be showing us random crap there, just renaming everything, cause there is no proof that it IS mgs4

Edit
Also the font used in free character thing looks weird, for the "Register", the g and the i are squished together(for the second image), i think it's photoshopped

it also says "Register free character for this..."

it should say "register A free character for this..."

i don't think they wouldn't make grammer mistakes in MGO, especially since its Kojima

[ravenguard88]

that the game wouldn't take 50gb... That has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it's a good game regardless.

[Danny Dan]

EVEN.. IF it was real... 33 GBs is still a lot of space... A LOT.

[I LOVE my xbox]

All I know is that I have found heaven on 1 blu ray disk.

[Milky]

I always knew that you have to pay for characters.

[Britjadg]

even @ 33 gigs thats 4 dual layer DVD disks for a release on 360.

i dont think this is true though, i reckon thes p'shopped.

[Tomdc]

The paying for extra character thing I heard about yesterday on the uk ps forums, a lot of people were annoyed! I mean its not really fair...

They give us free online play, but then in households where you have more than one online player, you have to pay for it!

Edit: By the way anyone saying the pic is a fake is wrong, they are making you pay!

[B-Rein]

you are totally correct, when you right click it on my computers and go to properties it says 3.76 gb but when you go in the disc and select all files then right clik and go properties it says 5.42 gb, hahhaha so metal gear solid has some files that are not counted in the disc, Who ever has a blu-ray drive on their pc try this out with MGS 4!!!!!

[Jack Meahoffer]

If you took out the audio for EVERY language on earth then it would be a lot smaller than 50GB everyone knew this... The game will still be the best MGS game ever and the hardcore fans will love it no matter the amount of space it takes up. Why you people care enough to argue about it is beyond me.

The real story here is PAYING for additonal characters. If that is true its a pretty major issue. It proves the old saying... "Pay me now or pay me later".

I love the fact the I don't have to pay for PSN but it annoys me when multiplayer doesn't work for a couple weeks after game launch (COD4, V6V2, TF2 and GTAIV) and now they're going to charge people for another character? Seriously how much server storage is needed for an F'ing character file? Kinda makes a $1 a week for XBL not look that bad. If true this will be a huge crack in the "PSN is free" argument. Can't wait to see hardcore Sony fans defend this.

My nephews will need like 4 characters to properly enjoy MGSO. If this is true its really going to hurt the long term success of the game.

[mbmonk]

@Jack

"Kinda makes a $1 a week for XBL not look that bad. If true this will be a huge crack in the "PSN is free" argument. Can't wait to see hardcore Sony fans defend this."

How is this a huge crack in the PSN is free argument? Konami is the one charging for characters not Sony.

Konami could have allowed 1 character per PSN account, but they chose not to do that. They decided to allow one account per PS3 machine. So to me it looks like this is Konami more so than Sony.

I also love how you try to dismiss anyone questioning your logic by labeling them fanboys. Honestly, that is an intellectually lazy stance to take.

I would like to point out that the people who have to pay are only the people who want more than one character, and yes I agree it's greedy. But we are talking about a subset of all the people who play MGS4 online. With XBL 100% of people who play online have to pay. My ASSumption is about 10% of people who play online will pay up for an extra account.

XBL is good. I am not saying it's not worth the cash. But I don't see how charging probably 5% of the total number of people who buy the game a fee (do we know the price even?) puts a crack in the 'free psn' argument.

Care to elaborate on your point?

[Jack Meahoffer]

You're correct everyone has to pay on XBL and this MGSO thing won't effect EVERYONE. But you seriously think only 10% of people will want more than one character? come on... Thats a huge understatement. First you say its 10% then its 5%. come on...

Yes this is a Konami doing this but how does that make it any better? Gamers still have to pay the toll what does it matter whos charging? Thats silly. Sony built the infastruture which requires third parties to host thier own servers thereby allowing them to charge. If this is successful for Konami you don't think others will follow suit?

Theres not much to elaborate on. If this is true then this is a piece of PSN thats not free anymore. Although small its still NOT FREE. This is the biggest release on PS3 by far. To say its only one game isn't really realistic when you consider how big this game is.

It seems that you care more about protecting Sony than debating this change in policy. I personally could care less about a faceless corporation. I'm in this for games. Like I said my nephews will be impacted by this because they have 4 different people playing and they all will want their own character. Why don't you elaborate on your point more because it sounds to me your whole argument is "It doesn't matter because its not Sony doing it".

Also I never said the word fanboy. You did. I said hardcore Sony fans. And they will defend this. It wouldn't matter what Konami or Sony did they would defend it no matter what just like you are.

Its not about a gotcha game for me here. This is a huge departure from the past and to gloss over it like you are saying its not a big deal is like sticking your head in the sand. Like I said if this works out many more games will begin charging because these are businesses out to make money.

I mentioned the $1 a week XBL fee because to me its peanuts. Sony fans hold that $1 a week over everyones head but paying for character slots is fine? Why is that? I'd rather not pay anything but I'll gladdy pay the peanuts to play games online without waiting a week for a patch or get nickel and dimed for F'ing character slots. Its one thing to pay for DLC its another thing to pay to "host" a tiny character save file.

At the end of the day I have both a PS3 and a 360 and if I need another character slot I'll pay but I still think it goes directly against the "PSN is free" feature of the PS3. This isn't additonal content its a fee to "host" a file thats a big difference.

[mbmonk]

@Jack

"But you seriously think only 10% of people will want more than one character? come on... Thats a huge understatement. First you say its 10% then its 5%. come on..."

I said only 10% of people online WILL pay more. I said nothing about how many WANT extra slots.

I mentioned 5% in terms of all the people WHO BUY THE GAME will pay. I made a subtle change to the equation, and I didn't explain it, so I understand why you missed the difference.

My rough math was 50% will play online and %10 of those will pay for slots. That equals 5% of ALL PEOPLE will pay. I hope that clears it up.

"Yes this is a Konami doing this but how does that make it any better? Gamers still have to pay the toll what does it matter whos charging? Thats silly."

But it does matter when you try to lay the blame at someone's feet. It's like convicting someone for a crime that they didn't commit. I get your larger point. But your saying Sony's PSN isn't free because Konami is charging. Why are you trying to take Sony to task for what Konami is doing? I understand the infastructure argument. But honestly I think it's a cop out by Konami. EA and every other game uses the PSN accounts just fine AND FREE. What is Konami doing that is so different than COD4 or any EA game? Nothing. I think Konami should be getting your anger not Sony. But hey I agree. I don't want to pay for extra character slot. I am with you.

"If this is successful for Konami you don't think others will follow suit?" - Like XBOX Live charges for online play? Is Konami just following suit?

"If this is true then this is a piece of PSN thats not free anymore. Although small its still NOT FREE. " - I get that. I think it's crap too in all honesty. But it's crap on Konami's part.

"It seems that you care more about protecting Sony than debating this change in policy." - But has there been a change in policy from Sony's standpoint? MMO's are going to require a fee to play. Sony has always said that. But again it's not Sony charging. All Sony said is that it's an open platform. Has any Sony first party game charging for online play?

"It doesn't matter because its not Sony doing it" - My whole point is it's Konami not Sony. So direct your anger in that direction. Again, I am with you I think it's bullshit.

"Also I never said the word fanboy. You did. I said hardcore Sony fans." Explain the subtle difference between "Sony hardcore fan" and fanboy. But maybe I unfairly rephrased your sentence.

"Sony did they would defend it no matter what just like you are." - Ding! Ding! Ding! There it is. He laid the ground work and here is the payoff. Don't question your logic or points, because if you do your must be a 'hardcore sony fan'. Couldn't resist could you?

"I mentioned the $1 a week XBL fee because to me its peanuts. Sony fans hold that $1 a week over everyones head but paying for character slots is fine? Why is that? I'd rather not pay anything but I'll gladdy pay the peanuts to play games online without waiting a week for a patch or get nickel and dimed for F'ing character slots. Its one thing to pay for DLC its another thing to pay to "host" a tiny character save file." - Are you arguing me or Sony fans? I think I mentioned "XBL is good. I am not saying it's not worth the cash.". So it's seems like your intermixing who your response is targeted at.

[Silogon]

9 + 9 + 9 + 9 = 36 which means, 4 xbox 360 disc which means keep dreaming on with that dream.

As for pay for a fee for other characters, oh well. Get use to it. XBL and PC are and have been supporting this notion for many years. Content is content sometimes it's free, sometimes it's for a fee. You want what you want until you realise you have to let go of something.

Cry and cry again.

[fishd]

There is just 7GB space on X360 disk due to some security stuff

[ruibing]

Is there a missing link? I don't see anything referring to the 33GB, just the single character creation screen.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

...And it's still the GREATEST Real Next-gen game out!!! ;-P
LAME!!! Anymore Nitpicking??? ;-D

Stay Alert! my Disciples!!!;)

[rucky]

More MGS4 bashing the day it comes out. Bring it on! No matter what it's still GOTY.

[AlterEgo]

No bout adout it.

[NegativeCreepWA]

I think LBP and Spore will give it a run for its money. Other than that nothing has a chance.

[fishd]

This is BS without official confirmation,just see how easy it is to make a fake pic,took me 2min!

Edit:why the heck i can't upload pic fro my hdd?

http://i28.tinypic.com/zk0a...

[jethro_jones]

What is so good about this game? The story? Gameplay videos online look crappy and awkward. And some aspects of the game look silly, like the little robot that goes around zapping people, and the way Snake runs. I don't get why everyone is always loving on this game, even before it came out.

I predict people will spend a few days playing it and then get back to the good games like COD4 and GT5. I'm more excited for KZ2, COD5, and GeOW2 than I am for this game.