USA Hardware and Software weekly ending August 2nd

PS4 keeps top spot on hardware while the last of us tops the software charts.

PS4 66,703
XOne 33,190
3DS 26,082
WiiU 22,519
X360 13,814
PS3 6,448
Wii 2,915
PSV 2,417
PSP 411

[aceitman]

wow ps4 double the X1 in its home turf , the last of us sold some systems , world wide is at 181,000 ps4's tripling x1's sales PS4 is on fire from here on out.

[xer0]

Those are impressive numbers.

[Hellsvacancy]

You don't take these VG articles seriously do you?

I must be in the minority that doesn't, comments bring me here

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

Good sales for PS4, and wow! The Last of Us, I know it's a great game and it was pretty hyped up but I still wasn't sure if a Remastered game could top the charts.

[Ezz2013]

@hellsvacancy

i'm with you
I will never take these Lolchartz articles seriously

[BiggerBoss]

I guess the Last of Us helped move some Ps4s, impressive numbers indeed

[MysticStrummer]

@Hells - You don't have to take vgchartz seriously to look at their numbers and get a rough idea of what's going on, especially when you know they usually underestimate PS numbers and overestimate XB numbers. PS4 is dominating.

[BlackWolf12]

@Hellsvacancy

History shows that VG numbers are always off, but only by 10% or so.

[badz149]

@BlackWolf12

10%? Try 100% like they did in April!

[amiga-man]

Vgchartz are known for their bias and innacuracy, they consistently under track the PS4 while over tracking xone numbers, making the numbers this week for the PS4 even more impressive.

The real numbers will be even worse for xone.

Still like to see Vgchartz banned from this place though

ArronC07
Impressive made up numbers.

Yes impressive made up numbers that are designed to favour the xone but still show the PS4 outselling the xone 2:1 in America

[BDSE]

Impressive made up numbers.

[aceitman]

while I see them as they are I know how to make my judgement on the numbers ps3,4 and wii ,wiiu 3ds are undertracked I know 360 and X1 are over tracked , so I bump up those under tracked by 10% and deduct those over tracked by 10% which will give my numbers a 20% bump or dump . but I will speak about what we see here , but taking it as a rumor with some salt with a 20% bump and dump numbers. now I know the xbox fanboys will say its not true but I cant hide something that npd numbers show to be true to the real numbers than vg chartz. they have been making adjustments after the npd came out . the truth is the truth and can hurt sometimes especially when vg chartz show ur system on top then gets adjusted to lower numbers after npd comes out with the facts.

[mediate-this]

Sony has always been america, ps1 n ps2 sold there before xb. Dont get it twisted.

[TheFallenAngel]

I've been saying this for years. It was playstation territory before the 360 for 2 gens straight.

[MRMagoo123]

It's still an American company which makes the US home turf or is that not obvious enough.

[rainslacker]

A vast majority of American's don't care one iota where something is made, or where the company that produces it is based.

On a side note, a vast majority of Americans also don't really care for MS regardless.

[showtimefolks]

since its VG i don't take these numbers too serious, but look at the fact they are always under valuing playstation numbers, i will take these. Usually VG are on the low end

TLOU will sell 2-3 million easily, and will also help move some consoles. Than come early september that destiny bundle will do gangbusters

the momentum continues and will keep going for a long time, q1-q2 2015 has some huge games(exclusives wise, the order 1886 and bloodborne)

[Magicite]

Quite impressive, its hard to not want PS4 at this point and more so at fall.

[imt558]

NPD results probably next week.

[kenshiro100]

I don't need VG Chartz to know the PS4 bodied the XB1 again.

Seriously, this is ridiculous. Not even a pricecut and a supposedly 'exclusive' game is stopping the PS4.

[fonger08]

My dream is that one day we all can ignore Vchartz weekly updates, and learn the patience to see what the "real" NPD monthly numbers are.

[Eonjay]

To that end, it is my hope that NPD would release actual numbers instead of waiting for leaks; wrapped in the form of a puzzle on a thread on NeoGaf.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

even NPD doesn't give accurate numbers. I will wait til a company like Media Create exists here.

[Kayant]

In what way is NPD's data not accurate? And what makes media create better? Just curious.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

So 70k is accurate enough more than reporting 75,687

as for software a list of 10 games with no numbers and platforms it available on is accurate?

[jackanderson1985]

@kayant

NPD use a similar (but considerably better) method to VGChartz in that they take a sample and apply whatever their chosen method is to estimate the whole sales information... it's close to accurate as they can get but the only people who actually know the numbers is MS/Sony/Nintendo and even then that's not up to date information as retailers might have unseen delays in informing them of actual sales information

[Kayant]

@OtakuDJK1NG and jackanderson1985

" it's close to accurate as they can get but the only people who actually know the numbers is MS/Sony/Nintendo" - Yes but it's accurate enough for all these three companies to use their data in their reports like MS did when they are happy with their numbers as shown below. Also with how off Vgchartz numbers have been from NPD I highly doubt they use similar methods. Vgchartz is just mostly if not all guess work. This is how NPD gets their data - http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

"as for software a list of 10 games with no numbers and platforms it available on is accurate?" - One thing wrong there it shows the platforms and what one sold the most based on the ordering of the platforms listed. They don't give software numbers like they don't give hardware numbers for a reason I don't know of. What I know is that they used to but stopped so time ago now we just wait for leaks or a company to give it like MS have done sometimes as seen below.

"So 70k is accurate enough more than reporting 75,687 " - In terms of accuracy of numbers to the absolute units you are right it's not as accurate as media create whether it goes to that type of accuracy to people with access to all the data is unknown but I think their data is accurate often to the right degree.

Like this is enough IMO is more than fine - 311,000 units http://news.xbox.com/2014/0...
as the hundred units matter more when it's only in that number table as 311,999 units will still be 311k units and 312,001 units will be 312k.

[rainslacker]

@Kayant

They don't give actual numbers unless the company involved agrees to have them do so. They started that a couple years ago I believe. Not sure why they decided to go that route though.

[user367272]

Vgchartz...fake numbers as always. Don't know why we haven't banned that site yet.

[MysticStrummer]

Go to the vgchartz home page and scroll down. You'll find N4G there. That's why the site will never be banned from here.

[DeadlyOreo]

Your name explains a lot about you. Of course you're not liking VGChartz this week, Sony is on top by a mile.

[Tedakin]

Off topic but why was THUWAY's twitter suspended? Too much BS spouting?

[Ripsta7th]

Wow ... How did the x1 version surpass the ps4 version of Cod ghosts?! Is this a mistake?

[Tedakin]

Xbox has always been the COD console. Xboxers love their fps.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

in the US. Worldwide a man is pretty sure it still is outsold though COD is a more MS biased franchise

[SpinalRemains138]

Wow.

Even VG Chartz knows PS4 is outselling Bone at more than 2:1

When VG Chartz has SONY ahead by any margin, let alone 2:1, you'd better believe that it is dominating sales.

Death, taxes, VG Chartz cooks the books in favor of MS.

Correction. It must be a bias here. Clearly 'Murika is biased against MS because like during the war and stuff....more countries no games??

[Benjammin25]

I honestly can't see the Xbox One winning many months from here on out. Maybe when Halo 5 or the MCC drops, but apart from that, it's Sony all the way.

[Bathyj]

Man, last time I saw a drumming like that was John Bonam playing Moby Dick

[Ggame]

TLoU moves massive number for PS4 in the US !
Holy Gooddd... can't imagine what is now happening in Europe and Asia.

[LightDiego]

Looks like everybody has a PS4 now.
@Ezz2013 : i hope you get one soon.

[Ezz2013]

not me yet :(

[kenshiro100]

I have to still get mine.

[ABizzel1]

PS4 should have sold through 11.5m units, by it's first full year, and around 13m units by the end of the year. Crazy impressive for a $400 console. Can't image what happens when it hits $299 (aka mass market price for the core), and $199 (mass market price for casuals).

XBO should be at 6.8m depending on how soon they launch their console WW (early Sep.) in it's first full year (which keeps it on par with 360's first full year), and should hit around 8 million by the end of the year. Which isn't bad at all.

Nintendo should be at 7.8m by year 2 for them, with 8.5m for by the end of the year.

Second place goes to whoever is willing to cut price first.

[plasticidolatry]

I think PS4 will maintain its 1.8:1 ratio by the end of the year. Right now on VGC it's 9.3 to 5 or 1.86:1.

That would mean if PS4 is 13 mil by end of 2014, XB1 would be 7 mil (1.86:1).

13 to 8 would be 1.62:1, which would show a ratio shift towards Xbox. I don't expect that to happen.

[ABizzel1]

It's going to happen simply, because the XBO is going to have another launch, and that means inflated numbers for that period of time. Then the PS4 will slowly even things back out over the passing months once the launch hype has died down.

Whether or not these are major territories or not, a launch boost can easily provide hundreds of thousands of sales, and they should be launching in another 30+ regions. Let's just say they have 300,000 sales boost first week after full WW launching (360k WW), and drop off to 100,000 second week (160k WW), then averages at 30k per week for those regions (90k weekly WW).

300k in 30 countries = 10,000 per country
100k in 30 countries (week 2) = 3,333 per country
30k in 30 countries weekly = 1,000 per country (about half of what they do in France weekly)

So I think it's fair to say the XBO drop the ratio in it's favor for the holiday. But starting 2015 the ratio will begin to increase in the PS4's favor, unless MS has a price drop down to $349 in March (which they have to do to comfortably take second place).

[plasticidolatry]

You're greatly exaggerating those tier 2 country sales numbers.

Xbox Ones are already widely available as grey market imports in those countries. September sales boost will be minimal.

These markets are nowhere near the size of France, that's one of the largest European markets next to UK and Germany.

They will add an extra 5-10% at best to current global Xbox One sales. Nowhere near 30k per week.

[rainslacker]

Nintendo is probably in the best position for a price cut, but they do have some compelling software coming out, so probably won't be until next year sometime. The other two if they want to up the ante, I wouldn't expect more than $20-30 off the current price. They're both selling too well, despite X1 not performing as well as the PS4.

[ABizzel1]

Honestly I think all 3 can cut price if they wanted to.

Sony: It would be pure evil if Sony did it, because they're already crushing the competition. But seeing how they're crushing, I'm sure they want top dollar, so they're least likely to cut price, unless MS does and starts catching up in weekly sales (which isn't likely unless MS cuts price $100).

Nintendo: They can definitely cut price by the most, and honestly it would benefit them the best and give them a fighting chance at keeping second place, because the XBO is about to cut into their lead post full WW launch and will pass Nintendo in sales 6 months after their full WW launch. Nintendo has been holding strong with their 2 million lead over XBO, but MS has the advantage of of 3rd parties on their side. Smash will be huge, but so will Halo: MCC for XBO, then you have all the other 3rd party games as well. Nintendo has to hit $249 or less before the XBO news starts breaking out about it's sales increasing exponentially, and MS comes in with the PR swinging about "Because XBO is doing so good we decided to give consumers the chance to buy XBO starting at $349 w/o Kinect, and $429 with Kinect".

Microsoft: As I said that $349 price is happening, the question is when. My guess is March or April 2015.

[mrpsychoticstalker]

Glad to see Microsoft selling good numbers. It is only a matter of time until it surpasses Sony. At least here in the USA

Master chief will surely sell millions.

[Eonjay]

Are you saying MCC will sell millions of games, consoles, or both.

Also, are you certain that Xbox can instantly close the growing gap. I think people put too much pressure on exclusive titles to drive the base ahead substantially.

Edit: what do you make of PS4s sales? Do you expect the to collapse?

[MRMagoo123]

He is just trolling in a not so in your face way. How anyone can come to the conclusion that the xbone will surpass the ps4 with the way sales are going I have no clue but I'm sure he has every finger toe and hair on his body crossed. It's gonna be one salty salty year for xbone fanboys.

[reko]

Lol

[HentaiMasterRace]

If Sony Manages to make a good conference for Gamescom that includes Vita, then maybe sales will get higher. Till then........

[HappyWithOneBubble]

PS4 is beasting. Sales will increase weekly when the holidays get closer. Expect stores to be low on stock. Now is the time to get PS4.

[gfk342]

Looking at the sales numbers and I see that Ps4 is generally the console of choose because it has the best recipe: sufficient power, good variety of games and exclusive, best exclusive IPs, best Dev studios, a good network infrastructure, PS+ and commitment of Sony (as the history has shown us).

The WiiU is a good change of pace with the games that is offering, being fun and different; considering the good price of it I believe that this is the best second console to have.

Now the Xbox, IMO, hasn't established a clear identity in the market. It's underpowered, too expensive, doesn't have voice commands (the kinectless version), doesn't have sufficient exclusives (but only timed exclusive), unclear vision and the messages from Microsoft board are discouraging. So, maybe this is the reason Xbox is not selling very good.

I think the consumer's mind is set on PS4 as the main console, while WiiU as the second console. Xbox should revise its policy towards consumers and also should change the strategy lowering the price and bring big exclusives (not timed exclusives).

[ElementX]

Maybe I'll have to dust off my PS4 and buy TLOS. I never completed it on PS3.

[majorkilljoy]

Xbox One out sells ps4 on a vg chartz listing they are called inaccurate and wrong ps4 outsells Xbox 1 they are 100 percent true im not saying the ps4 isn't outselling the x1 im just pointing out hypocrisy on these threads.

[NatureOfLogic_]

The last time Playstation fans called out vgchartz big time was the same month that vgchartz over tracked X1 by a huge unusual amount. They are known for beefing up Xbox numbers then they adjust them down later to look more accurate when a more reliable source releases their information. You can take this information and come to a conclusion that X1 is in even worse shape then what these numbers seem to imply. Which means that Xbox One got demolished this week in it's strongest territory. Everyone know PS4 is thrashing X1 in sales. We don't need vgchartz even with over tracked X1 and under tacked PS4 sales to tell us that. You can thank me later for this break down.

[Skankinruby]

That accusation applies to both sides of this console war

[G20WLY]

OK, could you please show me a post where anyone - ANYONE AT ALL - says VGChartz is "100 percent true"?

Nobody, whether neutral or a fanboy of either 'side', claims that. We all know they're biased and wrong, but it's all we have.

Sadly there is no hypocrisy for you to feast upon...only salty, salty tears. T_T

[Arkardo]

People take the vgchartz made up numbers and come to conclusions by themselves, like adding 20 to 30% percent more to Ps4 sales and 20 to 30% less for X1.

So, if you are crying about X1 sales being fake then I assure you won't like to see REAL numbers.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

And once again the Xbox1 proves to be a North American niche product...Xbox fanboys seem to be insulted by that fact...but they shouldn't...There is no shame in being the world's 3rd choice when it come to game console's...

[jnemesh]

This should put to bed any ideas some have that the XB1 is "doing well". When it's outsold 3:1 globally, 2:1 in it's own home market, and 7:1 (!!!) in Europe, it't not "doing well"! It's even being outsold by the WiiU! Third place in a three horse race isn't doing well, it's failing miserably!