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Why I'm Not Excited For: Super Smash Bros For 3DS

Rich Drummond of Gaming Tech United writes:

"Super Smash Bros is a franchise that I have always held in a very high regard. I have wonderful memories with friends and I cannot wait to make even more of then on the Wii U version of the game. In today's Why I'm Not Excited For, we take a look at the 3DS version of Super Smash Bros and elaborate on why I just can't get excited for it."

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Snookies123554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

I'm excited for Smash Bros. on Wii U, but not 3DS... Even though I love both systems, I just can't see playing the new Smash Bros. on a handheld before seeing it on the big screen. It's just too big of a game for that in my opinion. I'll probably pick it up after the console one comes out though. I just feel like it'll make the console experience significantly less exciting if I play the 3DS one first.

NinjaRichParty3554d ago

In my eyes, Smash will always be a console experience. I believe that a lot of what makes the franchise so special has the chance to be lost on the handheld version.

I just can't see myself double dipping on this title.

Vegamyster3554d ago

I can't see it being played on the regular 3DS but the XL looks like it'd be okay, the game is 60 fps and has its own stages so I'll be giving it a go, i'm looking forward to both versions.

-Foxtrot3554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

I know, it seems like a waste of time to me...obviously some people will buy it but even still it's not like people cried out for it.

If it was something that came out a year or so after the Wii U game, something to give us more Smash Bros goodness without making a full on new game for consoles then I'd understand but it's mind baffling why they would do this and have it so close to the date of the console game

Masahiro Sakurai has developed calcific tendinitis as he stated in an interview last year, he also complained of other smaller things like stress before hand. Now why the hell, with those conditions, would you make ANOTHER Smash Bros game alongside the console version if your that ill.

Then you have the fact he stated in the past how the handheld version could possibly hold back the console version aswell

http://gimmegimmegames.com/...

So at the end of the day with his illness and the fact it could hold back the main Smash Bros game...why the hell would you make the handheld version, especially at the same time. If people are going to play Smash Bros with their friends they'll do it with the console version

We only get one Smash Bros game per gen (so far) why do something like the 3DS version which could hold it back AND make you more ill at the same time.

Doesn't make sense in my opinion.

Chrischi19883554d ago

I dont see, how it is holding back the Wii U version. Actually a lot of people who play it on 3DS, will start to think about getting the Wii U version, or even a Wii U for it. There are way more 3DS players out there and they might start to see the value in a Wii U that way. And the games are not 100% the same. It can be bad, but it can also be really really good. Time will tell :)

-Foxtrot3554d ago

@Chrischi1988

All those extra stages and stuff the 3DS version has could be put into the console version. Which means more content.

Oh look at that disagrees for stating how logic works...why would man who is ILL do TWO games at the same time.

Of course but Nintendo fanboys don't use logic.

ChickeyCantor3554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

"Oh look at that disagrees for stating how logic works"

No. You're putting too much emphasis on things that didn't really affect the development that much. Yes he was under a lot of stress and yes his health was general not in a good state. But there is a whole platoon of people behind him that help him develop the game.

While you're complaining how 3DS is supposedly holding back the WiiU version you're forgetting that the models and textures on 3DS are far lower. You're also forgetting that the 3DS version has an extra mode, which is not included in the WiiU version. A 3DS cardridge can hold up to 8 gigs. Look at Brawl, they did fine with that version and still managed to include a whole list of players.

"why do something like the 3DS version which could hold it back "

Because you don't learn about the actual limitations until you're deeper into development. The idea was to have a WiiU and 3DS version that could connect with each other from the get go. That didn't happen either, because they learned about the technicalities OR they simply didn't know how ( even considered that? ). Fact is they were suppose to be the same game, eventually the 3DS got different stages and other content.

"Of course but Nintendo fanboys don't use logic."

Ironic. Considering you're full on "I'm always right, because I'm logical and anyone who disagrees is a stupeed nintendo fanboy".

Thepcz3554d ago

i see the 3ds game as the insurance- ie if the wiiu didnt take off and gain a large user base to guarantee smash bros success, they would have it on 3ds to pick up the lost sale.

and this is exactly what has happened. the wiiu has failed, and now they put smash bros wiiu on the shelf to concentrate on getting the 3ds version out first.

Timbalada3554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

I think that was foxtrots point ChickeyCantor. The 3DS version has different models, different levels, and different modes. He didn't imply that it was the same game and they had to tone it down so it could work on the 3DS; he was stating that Sakuri had to develop 2 separate games! With the time split and a need to add content so each one has value, it affected the final product. The time spent and developers paid could of been focused on one version of the game that could of had all the game modes, all the best levels, and possibly even more characters since they wouldn't of had to fanangle a model to work in 2 games (or even worse recreate models for the second game).

I'm not saying it will be a bad game, but in an alternate reality there is a version of Super Smash Bros 4 that has all the features from both games.

Chrischi19883554d ago

That is true, but this way they try to make 3DS owners, of which there are a lot, to think about getting a Wii U, to get the full experience. Each mode that is available. Maybe Amiboo character will be usable on both games. Maybe that way you can train your char better than just with one version. I get, that they couldve done 1 full game instead, but they also try to create value for the Wii U, so more people will buy it and this is one of a few strategies to do so. Attract already Nintendo buying customers.

randomass1713553d ago

I'm not sure what you mean Foxtrot. I've always wanted an on-the-go Smash game. I would have gotten a Vita for PSASBR on-the-go but I already had it on PS3. Smash will have its own content and modes and the only technical limitation we actually know of is the character transformations being removed. As far as we know there are no other issues. The Wii U version will gave Gamecube controller support so I'm sure people will look to that one as the optimal version no matter what though.

ChickeyCantor3553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

"he was stating that Sakuri had to develop 2 separate games!"

He and his 2 teams. See the difference? My point is that they can do it because they are working in different setups. Let's not pretend the game would have been that different if they didn't make the 3DS game.

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3-4-53554d ago

I don't understand how you can't be excited for this game really.

* How many games of this caliber, of this genre and style are there even available on a handheld ?

* How many of those are actually good and polished games worth playing?

Smash brothers is going to OWN that corner of the market for that specific game type/genre.

* It's not like getting this game on 3Ds prevents the Wii U game from being made.

* A new good game full of content is always a good thing regardless of what platform it releases on.

Chrono3554d ago

LOL whoever thinks this is a fighter most probably sucks at real fighting games.

Heisenburger3554d ago

What is it that players do in this game?

Hmm?

What's that?

Yeah. This conversation's over.

TripC503554d ago

Heisenburger... They smash each other...duh

Chrischi19883553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

You fight in that game, it is obviously a fighting game. Just because it is not like Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Streetfighter and Injustice? That doesnt make it any less a fighting game. I for one love fighting games and think it is nice to have some variety in that genre.

TheTowelBoy3554d ago

I personally can't wait for it. I'll be getting both because I love the franchise I already have a 3ds I'll be buying a wiiu for the console version! :D

NinjaRichParty3554d ago

Like I said in the article, I'm not saying it's going to be BAD by any stretch of the imagination. I know a lot of people who are going to love it, but it's just not for me.

Hope you enjoy it brother!

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Mortal Kombat hits 80 million sales, here's how it stacks up against competition

NetherRealm confirms its Mortal Kombat franchise has sold over 80 million copies in the last 30 years, and here's how it competes against other fighters.

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Kakashi Hatake339d ago

Don't care what anyone says, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game. May as well call Powerstone and Playstation All Stars fighting games. They're more of an arena fighter /party game.

NotoriousWhiz339d ago

You don't have to care what anyone says. It's not a traditional fighting game. But it is a fighting game.

gerbintosh338d ago

Not according to the creator, Sakurai. Link below

https://www.eventhubs.com/n...

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CrimsonWing69338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

I mean what makes them an arena fighter than say something like Tekken? Because there’s platforms?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21338d ago

because theres a bunch of pokeballs and other random stupid stuff on stage that you can use at your advantage and flying ultra super power ball that you got to chase on the stage to get your ougi LMAO.

CrimsonWing69338d ago

@NatsuXTheMaxspeed21

I mean what it sounds like is they took a fighting game and “added” unique mechanics to it to me.

When I think arena game I think of things like Spawn: In the Demon’s Hand or Virtual-On.

Smash to me is a fighting game, they have fighting game tournaments for it. It just doesn’t jive with me to call it “not a fighting game” because you have poke-balls and platforms or because it has 4 players at once duking it out.

Power Stone I’d consider a fighting game as well. Hell, if you google what it is everyone calls these games “fighting games”. So yea, they’re fighting games…

Immagaiden338d ago

What’s next, you gonna say Mario Kart isn’t a racing game?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21338d ago

oh its a racer but its not a realistic one like GT or Forza. only kids check for mario kart and smash .

Immagaiden338d ago

I didn’t say it was realistic. I said racing game. Does Burnout not being realistic make it not a racing game?

What does a demographic have to do with a genre? Do kids playing CoD make it any less an FPS? You see how ridiculous bringing up that subject is?

repsahj338d ago

"Only kids and kids at heart check for mario kart and smash".

-fixed!

FallenAngel1984338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

Nobody said it was a traditional fighter. Everyone acknowledges it as a platform fighter

PSASBR & Power Stone are fighting games, the former being a platform fighter and the latter an arena fighter

gleepot338d ago

You're correct, it isn't traditional. It's a fighting game though.

repsahj338d ago

Because if cute and lovable characters are fighting it's not a fighting game? XD As long there's a versus fighting, it is a fighting game.

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MrNinosan339d ago

Including Smash Bros in a list of fighting games, is like including GTA in Racing games.

NotoriousWhiz339d ago

I hate to break it to you but smash bros has fighting game tournaments so it qualifies.

MrNinosan339d ago

"and here's how it competes against other fighters"

No, Mortal Kombat doesn't compete with games like Smash Bros? It's a different genre for a different audience.

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21338d ago

Anybody can host a tournament in their garage it doesnt mean it qualifies.

NotoriousWhiz339d ago

I'm going to assume you're not part of the FGC. However, I am, and I can tell you that there is a ton of overlap between people who play smash competitively and those who play other fighting games competitively.

Now for casuals, there is a lot less overlap between the two for sure.

PapaBop338d ago

While technically true, Leffen comes to mind, FGC and Smash community have always had a rocky relationship.

Thundercat77338d ago

And yet, If Smash Bros was over 80 million, you wouldn't be complaining. On the contrary, you would be bragging about it.

Immagaiden338d ago

Bad comparison. You do a LOT of things in GTA outside of a car while fighting is what you’re mainly doing in SSB

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Ezio2048339d ago

Given the volume of games released, I would say Tekken has sold the best.

lodossrage338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

Yeah, that's a good point. Most of these games have parts to the franchise outside of traditional fighting games.

Like for example, with Mortal Kombat, do Special Forces, Mythologies: Sub: zero, and the Kollection count?

With Tekken does death by degrees or the tag tournament games count?

With Street Fighter, are we counting all the iterations of 2, 3, and 4? how about the ex series or alpha series?

There are a lot of variables at play here

Ezio2048338d ago

Even after including Tekken Tag, they have less titles compared to all MK and SF games.

CS7338d ago

Yeah, i realized that too. Very interesting.

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Super Smash Bros. prototype revealed in new video

The designer of the original Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 64 shows us the prototype that started it all.

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Nintendo will not allow Super Smash Bros. on the Evo 2022

Kim writes: "Super Smash Bros. will not be shown at Evo 2022, this year's biggest fighting game event. The Sony-owned sports organization announced the loss of the platformer in a statement on Twitter today, and seemed to blame the decision on Nintendo, which has historically tried to control how their games appear in the wild."

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ZeekQuattro784d ago

The moment Sony acquired EVO the writing was on the wall. A big loss for EVO.

blackblades784d ago

Sony acquiring them had nothing to do with it. Nintendo fault.

AnotherGamer784d ago

That has nothing to do with Sony though.

ZeekQuattro784d ago

Yeah I'm supposed to believe that Nintendo who has been apart of Evo since 2007 up and leaves after Sony acquires Evo is just a coincidence. Yeah okay.

Michiel1989783d ago

pretty sure Sony would allow them to compete. But nintendo has seen all smash bros tourneys as free advertisment from the community, instead of providing setups/games etc they demand that you play their adds on the tourney and put up posters with their newest game instead of actually supporting the competitive smash scene. They just piggybank off them. Now that Sony runs it they wont get free advertisement over there, thus fuck over their smash community by not allowing having it at EVO.

Brazz784d ago

Also big loss for smash community.

Vengeance1138783d ago

Huge loss for Nintendo, could have been huge PR for Smash and to further the titles reach and to gain even more players but Nintendo is happy to let it slip into nothingness. No new content is coming to Smash so literally all it has left is potential tournaments.

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Knightofelemia784d ago

In away this hurts Nintendo Smash Bros has some dedicated fans. What better way to help build hype and sell more of the game then showcasing it at EVO.

Atom666784d ago

https://www.gamesindustry.b...

They wanted more control, which led to starting up their pro circuit. We'll see if it works out.

EVO's recent troubles probably played a part in the decision, but my bet is that they were planning this for awhile.

-Hermit-784d ago

Because it's Nintendo, they just don't get it. They are so ass backwards. At this point, they deserve to get left behind by everybody else. The only reason why they remain relevant is because they appeal to nostalgia.

Neonridr784d ago

except they are currently the most successful. Left behind, lol. Cute Hermit.

-Hermit-784d ago

@Neonridr

I never said they are left behind, I said they deserve to be. Nintendo hasn't done a single positive thing for gaming for a very long time now.

They are anti consumer, release weak and overpriced hardware and shit out the same games to appeal to nostalgia. They don't put any effort into their "remasters" they go after fans for making fanmade games, they go after emulation when they don't give a damn about their older games.

They charge to play online for the Switch after it was free for a year and are behind every single company when it comes to online infastructure. They make it difficult to back up save games. They lock content behind those crappy Amiibos. They sell cardboard to people because they are too cheap to develop actual good hardware to go alongside their console. They go after people streaming Nintendo games.

I would argue that Nintendo are less consumer friendly than the likes of EA, and that's saying something.

whitbyfox783d ago

They just announced 48 new Mario Kart tracks for free with the expansion pass, that’s a whole new game for free.

You must have missed that one.

luckytrouble783d ago

@whitbyfox

"Included with the expansion pass" is not free. It's part of what you're paying for with your subscription fee. I get people try to call things included in subscriptions free to help rationalize costs involved with this subscription heavy model that has taken over, but the addition of something in a pretty unanimously agreed upon to be an overpriced subscription isn't Nintendo being nice; they're trying to incentivize people to finally see the cost of the expansion pass as a good value. In this case though they already established the cost of permanent ownership, which I'm sure was forced low to not over value the subscription, so you know that pack is actually worth $25. It's not free in any sense of the word, and Nintendo is only trying to do themselves a favor with this move.

whitbyfox783d ago

@luckytrouble

We never knew we were getting the Mario Kart tracks, we thought we were just paying for the N64 Megadrive and Animal Crossing DLC so it’s free to me.

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Neonridr784d ago

Nintendo has their own events and showcases though. They will be fine.

CrimsonWing69784d ago

Nintendo’s a real party pooper, huh?

fsfsxii784d ago

evo about to smell a lot better

OhReginald783d ago

It's not a proper fighting game. Who cares.