PSXExtreme writes: During Microsoft's Xbox 360 RPG Premiere 2008 event in Tokyo - which is still going on - we have learned several things that will disappoint and potentially confuse PlayStation 3 owners.
eurgh it would suck royally if MS bought Square then i would have to play FF13 on 23462846286428 disks :(
That not going to happen. I think Sony own part of SE
FF13 isnt the only JRPG in the universe. I perssonally wouldnt trade Star Ocean 4 , Tales of Ves , Inf Undiscovery , Eternal Sonata , Blue Dragon and Lost Oddyssey for ONE game : FF13 You might say they are timed exclusive bla bla bla but that means you'll probably play Star Ocean 4 in mid 2010 for instance. By the way Star Ocean 4 might just NEVER come to PS3 "We cannot announce anything on that. We can say that it will be released first [on the Xbox 360]. Whether we'll release it on the PS3 is undecided. We may release it, we may not." BTW : Star Ocean 3 > ff 10 . Came out around about same period. Last Remnant comoing out on 360 fisrt this winter.Lets say summer or end of year for the PS3. Then when on planet Earth is FF13 coming out ? End 2009 ? Maybe even 2010.That is pretty realistic.
Oh dear God no. I'll fall asleep before I reach the fourth one. x-x
you wouldn't trade those games, but i would no JRPG for me has ever been better than FF10, especially not Star Ocean 3 current date for FF13 is early 2009, i predict fall 2009 you really thing Square won't release SO4 on PS3? please, it's obvious what happened- MS payed for timed exclusivity, and Square said "maybe no PS3 version" as extra marketing for MS but wait a sec.... wtf??? i never said FF13 is the only JRPG, i just said it would suck for it to be a 360 exclusive becaus eof the multiple disks and inferior hardware same goes for all those JRPG's you mentioned, they will ALL be on multiple disks (3, 4... even 5? :S) @TheHater yeah, but Sony only own 8%, if MS were to buy a dominant packet of shares they could make FF13 Xbox exclusive
OMG. Star Ocean 3 better then FFX... Lol ;-) Hey crazy fanboy, have you ever played a FF game in your life for god's sake?!!! That's probably a NO.
Star Ocean 4 will most likely be released on PS3. Later than on Xbox 360 but still. However, at this pace, FFXIII could well end up landing on Xbox 360 as well. Remember that from all Square franchises, Final Fantasy is the one with the biggest western appeal and it would make all sense to release it in the console with best software sales in those regions.
"eurgh it would suck royally if MS bought Square then i would have to play FF13 on 23462846286428 disks :( " changing the disc > 5 min instals every 20 mins of play
But at least we would get it first, and it would look and play better :)
I wonder if you can completed the game before the PS3 owner lol
Buy it or Pay huge chunks of Cash for Exclusiveness. luve it or hate it, i wont buy it for XBOX.
Siding with MSFT?. The Xbox opens up a whole new revenue source. They've said a while back they were looking to compete with other successful Japanese companies in the western market.
So...let me guess if I can follow STUPID people's logic, ie. you. So SE decides to make two of their lesser franchises into MULTI platform titles and suddenly all the stupid xbots think SE is siding with them? I am literally laughing my ass off here. FF13. VS13. PS3 exclusive. Two of their biggest. DQ Nintendo exclusive. So what does that leave you, bot? Two timed exclusives? Wow bragging and gloating about a few months timed exclusivity now, are we. So this is the state xbots are in nowadays huh. Bragging about shiatty DLC that they have now realized is worth next to nothing so they now brag over timed exclusivity of an rpg that will sell 600k at best. People dont buy consoles over timed exclusives, bots. Nothings changed. You bought a 360. You bought an inferior and losing console. SE didnt sided with you. MS paid them a check and they threw MS a bone. Big fking deal.
Please announce *Data-Fly* and *Embrace Of Time* these are the games I'v been waiting for much like the way PS3 fans wait for FF13. Man looks like MSFT will have their hands full durring E3 if they're talking about these titles now; like they don't have room for them this E3.
what are those games ? Never heard about them.
Data-Fly? PSU contacted the devs in their "missing PS3 titles" article and they said it's still in production as a PS3 exclusive LOL!!! EDIT: http://www.psu.com/Missing-... there you go POG, clear as day P-S-3-E-X-C-L-U-S-I-V-E-!-!-! -!-! do i need to etch it into your eyelids before you smack yourself silly in your little denial mode
yeah, i never heard of those games either?
ORiGO a Chinese based Stutio was planning a 4 part RPG called Embrace of Time I can no longer find what I read about it but I can't wait to see what they can offer. Data-Fly is an upcoming video game currently being developed by ORiGO Gaming Entertainment for both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. The game will let players take either a stealth-based approach or a more action-oriented approach. These games have not been mentioned lets hope they are still in development. Data-Fly is a Sci-Fi adventure stealth game I have no idea what Embrace Of Time will be from the little info i read that I can no longer find it will be an Action RPG. Emmbrace Of Time images(Old art, CGI?). http://media.xbox360.ign.co... Data Fly images(Old screens, CGI?). http://xbox360.ign.com/obje...
To come back on this topic Sony hasn't announced anything past Resistance 2 for november. That's it? That's all we get? What about Home? Little big planet? Something from Naughtydog? What about White Knight chronicles since you've put that off for over 2 years now? What about getting suikoden exclusive from Konami? What the hell is Sony's holoday going to look like this year? Really, if you've bought the ps3 you have to be wondering this yourself. Microsoft has their ship in order. Sony does not. Sony isn't giving us anything and if they even try to sell off some idiotic motion controller at E3 I'm selling my ps3. Instead of trying to copy the compeition sony needs to finish the projects they already started. home, in game xmb are just some! Sony disappoints me at every turn.
dude, seriously... shut up. You say we like you are party of something besides the dirty diaper club. People like you make myself get bans. I should ignore your ignorance.
Valkyria Chronicles The Agency Siren: Curse Blood That just for the US. I don't know the ones for Japan, or Europe. Plus Sony will announce more at E3 this year. which is about a month away
Are you forgetting E3 is still coming up in July, usually you want to announce everything at once and in a expected way to raise the price on a stock for a company.
LOOK here I got tons of cash lying around like Silogon. And i got LOts and lots of hours like Silogon too.
Resistance 2 (60 players online, 15 hour storyline, 8 player co-op) Motorstorm 2 Little Big Planet (Ability to customize levels and characters) Naruto Siren: Blood Curse The Agency Afrika Valkyria Chronicles Looks like a good Holiday line up to me. Now do everyone a favour and stfu!
"Sony hasn't announced anything past Resistance 2 for november. That's it?" If anything, why should they reveal their internal offerings and plans to someone who does not even understand what the hell he is talking about ? and btw, Killzone 2 is February next year. See I just answered your question now please STFU or start making sense.
What Silogon is saying is in fact true. But all that could change in the next E3 or TGS. The same way we were thinking that the X360 was dead and now look how that changed with all the announcements of Square Enix, well, something similar could happen with the PS3... Now the X360 got some more Jrpg, but we all know what north americans really like... Shooters. That could help the PS3 to sell more consoles on US, and you know the rest of the story. The X360 is only winning on US.
Holiday line up for Sony: September: Socom October: Little Big Planet, Bioshock, Naruto, Motorstorm 2 November: Resistance 2 December: The Agency ? 2008: Home, PixilJunk Eden, Wipeout HD, and Siren episodes 1-12
Do you even have a PS3????
i got a ps3 and i don't worry about it although i am not a really busy guy, i am pretty confident that it will deliver...why? Simple, it didn't disappoint me with its launch title, it didn't disappoint me with its first part of second year...and it won't disappoint me from now on since it can only get BETTER well....MGS 4 tomorrow, and many more coming...
Bubbles. Me too.
Another reason why I'm glad to own PS3 and the 360. A lot of people these days think its a sin to try another console to "test" the hardware, public preferences, and if there's a future for other games on that console. However Square lost their touch after siding with Enix; a lot of people can argue to no end of all these games coming out however the real question is "what does the public want?"
has anyone noticed the huge amount of diasgrees on all the logical posts? i mean way more than usual, even for n4g. something fishy is going on.
Square is making a huge mistake with this. It still won't move Japanese people to buy 360's-not for a couple of rpg's. Like I said, the PSP is kicking ass over in Japan.
why does this have to be considered a huge mistake? Japan loves playing RPG, and as of now, the 360 has the most RPGs with some really good exclusive RPGs, and even secured some timed exclusive RPGs for this year and the next, you add the price drop with jasper this year for a reliable and very affordable (cheap) console. What do you think MS should do? call it quits in Japan, pack it in? c'mon now, grow up, this is MS and the 360 is it in for the long haul. SE is in it for the money, and 360 gamers buy games!! its been proven every month. EDIT: @ juuken for one the people in Japan and f-ckin racist and dont support anything AMerican. period. maybe they still hold a grudge or they are just being loyal to their country, but f-ck them because they think they are better and for a system with the most games, highest rated exclusives and better multi-plats with less then one million in sales after two years.... I call that racist. end of rant- as for NG2, i'm on level 4, and it's blazing fast with real cool finishing moves. i dont know what was all that talk about 20fps. you will be the judge but i think you will be pleased.
Um...and Japanese also love quality. Quality over quantity, quality over quantity. Do I have to use a Math formula to explain that to you? They love rpg's but they don't love consoles crashing on them. I just hope that the 360 I'm getting doesn't break on me because if it does, I will NOT be pleased. I'm only getting it for at least three games I want to play-NG2, Star Ocean 4, and Infinite Undiscovery. I'm not saying that MS should call it quits but they should really give up on Japan. If they're not making a profit there, then they really should pack it up and move on. They still have the U.S to fall back on and they need to get back Europe so why not focus on that?
they love the nintendo wii (not many good games here)... and they love the ds (didn't mind the screen becomming extremely scratched) and the ps2 (remember the problem with optical disc drives). Psp (pixels dying shoulder buttons breaking). most of these systems are saturated with bad games with only a couple actually shining through, specially in their early life (I bet for every good game you name for the ps2 I can name at least 5 bad ones.) Japan likes japanese products, xenaphobia is a problem there like racism is here.
Will it move 360s? Nope. It will be 360s last hope and it will fail miserably. Then again, the game itself will sell 600k at most. Providing SE with cash. And the PS3 version will sell 600k aswell. More cash for SE. Game is multi platform and that is what it will remain. Dont jump to conclusions. They support PS3 over 360. FF13. VS13. Nuff said. E3 will be huge. Im expecting those games to be at 70-80 percent done. Im expecting a 2009 summer release for FF13. And a Xmas 2009 release for VS13. And Im expecting Kingdom hearts 3 to be PS3 exclusive. If the price to be paid is SO4 multi platform, which lets face it - people talk like as if this is one huge title suddenly going multi but the last version barely sold over a million - then Ill gladly accept it. PS3 still getting the best games, we are overreacting because xbots are doing their disgusting fanboy dances again. E3 with FF13 and VS13 trailers/news and SO4 announcement for PS3 >>>>>>>&a mp;g t; MS RPG event. and for the stupid folk doubting FF13 and VS13 to be exclusive, I ask when did MS announce FF13 and VS13 for their platform today? They didnt because its not. OWNED.
Lots of quality in the Playstation library, I'm pointing at all three of them now.
Hi cupcake... Now deary me girl.. normally your posts just make me chortle a bit, but today you had me guffawing until I was blue in the face...*wheezes* In your statements about the Japanese you mentioned: ">>>Um...and Japanese also love quality. Quality over quantity, quality over quantity. Do I have to use a Math formula to explain that to you?<<<" (um... firstly, please refrain from using maths. Remember how you hurt yourself last time with all those nasty numbers?) Juuken, so you state that the japanese loved the quality over quantity of the ps2? Come on now girlfriend... are you really that naive? The ps2 was RIDDLED with defects, yet it sold AMAZINGLY well in japan. Perhaps the japanese like 'quantity' over 'quality' IFF (if and only if) it meets their nationalistic and xenophobic agenda? Hmmmm. food for thought.
if you want to have a big impact in the West then they better team up with MSFT West = 18.5 million 360's West = 10 million PS3's Almost twice the install base and 360 has high attach rate. Moreover JRPGS doing quite good on 360.Nothing groundbreaking but decent sales. They cant just ignore 18.5 million customers. BUT making Star Ocean 4 a timed exclusive ! WOW.I knew it was going multiplat but actually going exclusive ? MSFT clearly going out for the PS2 audience in the West.DMC4 , GTA4 and now all the JRPGS.I personnaly think is counting on all those JRPGS to build a good base for the 720 in Japan and to attract a differant audience (tehy already have the FPS, sports etc audience) * @DJ below : first of all I was talking about USA and EU so my numbers are spot on.And sorry man but Sony said thay sold 13 million and MSFT said 19 million. Funny how the only numbers to go up are PS3 numbers.Coming from you...Im not surprised. BTW you always give fake numbers.I remeber you saying the original xbox sold 45 millon...
Xbox 360: 19 million units. PS3: 14 million units.
So LaChance's quote should be changed to "They can't just ignore 19 million customers"
Common you are smarter than this. It would have made more sense if they had gone multiplat. Majority of JRPG sales come from Japan so by doing that even though they extend to the west, they take a huge hit by removing the JP market. 14 million to 19million at that is choosing an install base of 19 mill over 33mill by going multiplat Bottom line is microsoft paid for it end of story
About going Multiplat. I was just making a comment about DJ's post. MS paid for these games and that's just business...Sony does the same thing. Problem is, they pay for games like Haze. It's startling that the 360 has more JRPG's than the PS3, or at least has them sooner. I've said it before...Sony has amazing engineers that build crazy hardware but their management sucks. Where the hell are the ads for MGS4? It's like they don't want to expand the user base.
Exactly, dude. 19 million.
lol i HOPE sony didn't pay for Haze :S Good job by Msoft though. Expanding their demographic is what they really need right now.
of those 19 mill how many have been broken? 17% 33% M$ wont tell the truth (it's the motherboard/ it's the graphics chip/ it's the disk tray/ etc. etc) but 17% of 19 mill equals a lot of either disillusioned american "intellectuals" or pist of customers then i wonder how many 80g ps3's are gonna sell within the next few days and i wonder is squenix doing the right thing for money? messing around with their TRUE fanbase?
He was talking about the West side of the globe basically NA and SA and a bit of Europe.
How does a 'third party' publisher side with anyone? They are free to do whatever they want. I didn't notice this 'PSX Extreme' writing articles about Square-Enix 'siding with Sony' when Final Fantasy 13 was announced only for PS3. Square-Enix has cited on various occasions that they want to reach a big user base in the Western market. What better way to do that than to support the 360? It sells the most software(has highest attach rate) in North America. Sony could have done the same thing but they seem to just be sitting on their hands. Xbox 360 seems to be gettting all the RPGs.
but dont forget that its "Microsoft's Xbox 360 RPG Premiere 2008 event" so dont expect to see any new PS3 game LOL. Sony guys didnt sit on their hands.. just wait until E3 , believe me SONY will blow your mind with huge list of new exclusives. . InFAMOUS,heavyrain,God of war3,FFXIII,FFversusXIII... I have 40 names to say but everybody knows those titles.. MS needs this events before MGS4 release to attract some attention..
MS has more consoles than Sony. Therefore SE likes MS more than Sony.
Marketing their products to Americans. As for Square-Enix choosing sides, it's a confusing situation. Doesn't Sony own part of Square anyway?
yeah, sony owns about 10% of square enix's shares
Sony must not own enough of SE to have a say.
they might have a say on certain games but star ocean is obviously not one of them
Wow this is just wow. Really Square Enix is siding with everyone this year! They are making games on all systems something they haven't done in many many years. I get that some of you started gaming with the PS2 and that's when Square Enix just made PS2 games but this is the here and now. Square Enix sees a lot of units out in the world by a lot of different companies. They want to make money and they want to have a better foot in the US that means they need to open their options. They are not siding with anyone
It's just business. Has nothing to do with "loyalty".
thankyou!! someone actually talking sense, bubble for the most rational comment yet. I sometimes think that people forget that for SE this is a business, not a schoolyard brawl, theres no taking sides, just oppertunities. square enix wants to penatrate the US market more, what better way to do that then to announce 3 new jrpg on america's no.1 console. its business strategy..
Star Ocean will come to the PS3 due to low sales on the Xbox360..Last Remant is only time exclusive..Also these games isnt even that big..It wont push any system.. Final Fantasy VIII and Versus now that the game that will sell sytem...
Square Enix sees PS3 fanbase is increasing with each passing month and plus Star Oceaon 4 is Multiplatform this article makes it sound like Sony is not getting Star Ocean 4 or Last Remnant and plus this article is so dumb that XBox 360 is losing majorly over there! and since when did Square Enix beginning to side with Microphony they never did there just making there games Multiplatform I don't think there was an article that said that they liked Microphony or there crappy system? and plus Square Enix has probably seen the PS3 outselling the XBox 360 so how can they be siding with Microsoft and plus if they were siding with them two of those games would have been exclusive which by the way they aren't. the same thing can be said about what you just said GiantEnemyCrab you would like to believe that Star Ocean 4 will be exclusive but as history shows Gears of War for PC and Mac BioShock PC and PS3 Mass Effect for PC so what makes you think Star Ocean 4 is?.
Well, it seems like Square smelled the money trail and is following it straight to MS's front door.
"plus Star Oceaon 4 is Multiplatform this article makes it sound like Sony is not getting Star Ocean 4" Maybe you want to re-read the statement from SE again that there are no plans right now and they don't even know if there will ever be a PS3 version. It is NOT multiplatform no matter how many times you want to type it or say it. There is no PS3 version even being discussed. Are you going to go to the store the day SO comes out and ask for the PS3 version? Are you going to buy the 360 version and try and put the DVD into your PS3? It is not multiplatform. @juuken: I've been burned with my Bioshock defending so I will never say never. I am just looking at the announcement today and SE announced Star Ocean for the Xbox 360 only. So fair enough it could become multiplatform one day but not this day.
Crab, it's not confirmed as an exclusive either, which means it could probably come to the PS3 as a timed exclusive. They don't have anything to say about the matter only because it wasn't confirmed as an exclusive.
Boo Hoo :( http://www.kleenex.com sniff sniff :(
I wonder where Square would be in North America without Sony.
Holding hands and passing love letters with Nintendo. Just remember, Nintendo's mistake to stay with the cartridge format with the N64 changed the face of gaming as we know it. If Nintendo went the cd route, Final Fantasy 7 would probably have been a Nintendo exclusive.
they side with whoever has the most gamers. that and 360 gamers buy more games.
Not really, i just suspect its MS making some deals, to try and kick start them off again in Japan