New clearer video of In-Game XMB

Fragcast uncovers new, much clearer video of PS3 firmware 2.4.

[Ninja_Moomin]

Not my choice of music.... but nice to see something that clearly isn't fake.

Oh... and I don't condone hacking!

[Jamie Foxx]

what did that guy actually show us?has he ever played on a ps3 before?why didnt he show the ingame msgin or custom soundtrack when he was killing the crap out of ridge racer?music was terrible that was the worst demonstration video ive ever seen period. terrible

[shazam]

how is it running homebrew?

[STEVIE_]

It showed us that he is a hacker and therefore a dirty thief, it showed us that he is terribly crap at driving games, and it showed us that he has an excruciatingly bad music collection.

These types of people do not deserve to own a PS3...

[Ri0tSquad]

More videos are coming soon.

[wipeout2000]

But it really looks like the guy skinned the psp with his own custom icons and then edited the video to add in the ps3 game. I could be wrong though...

[yesah]

its coming soon.....YES!

[gamesR4fun]

Courtesy of PS3News: Please note, we don't condone or advise hacking your PS3 to launch games from SD card.

-they make it sound like its the ps3 is hacked... lol

[donator]

It was just a demo of Ridge Racer that they got to run off the SD card. Even if the PS3 was hackable, all devs need to do is put dummy files on all blu ray discs to make them 50 gigs or more.

[Silogon]

Music didn't fit the demonstration, sure but to say it was terrible? Please, you all probably didn't like it cause it wasn't produced on a 30 dollar beat machine with some idiot mumbling something under his breath while he talks about how much money he's got, how deep his rims are, how fly his ****es are all while wearing a pink shirt and bulbous sun glasses that look like they came from Farrah faucets closet.

[cp68]

awesome

[Ninja_Moomin]

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so excited.

It has to be soon!!!

[Eidolon]

what the hell is this guy doing..
it's like.. almost painful to watch him mess with it

[Ninja_Moomin]

LOL!

I dunno.... but i'm glad he did it!

[Eidolon]

well, i'm still waiting for confirmation. i won't believe it until then.

[Ninja_Moomin]

That's cool...

But there's been too many leaks and too many comments that it's due soon not to believe it...

IMO!

[badboy808]

I CANT WAIT

[San anto]

why didnt he select some custom soundtrack from the ingame xmb =[

[Maverick_]

O no...he's just watching a cinemax porno off-screen.

[whoelse]

This guy who made the video could have been more useful. What was with the demo thing where he just messed around. I wanted to see the in-game music and in-game communication features plus anything else it has to offer.

[Yoma]

Me too. I just saw him mess around with that debug thing

[Maverick_]

Bring it on!

[Ninja_Moomin]

Is anyone else not caring about Home anymore?

It seems like In-game XMB is going to give us all the options we need for great online gaming.

[whoelse]

I care about Home but 2.40 will make the wait less painful.

[titntin]

Hmmm - your comment clearly demonstrates you have little to no idea of what Home is, or what it delivers.

Personally - I'm glad they'll increase the functionality, but I don't use these features on my 360, so I don't miss them on my PS3. Home is completely different, and I expect to use that a lot - I already do a lot of video chatting with friends around the country , so I can't wait to invite them to my personal apartment for a chat.

[HighDefinition]

Is NOT done and when it comes out it`ll be great.

[HighDefinition]

exactly.

I vid chat all the time aswell.

Home will make it better.

[HydroBoy]

Exactly

[wantedboys]

the video dosenot work

[juuken]

Whoo-hoo!

[DEADEND]

Wow now it's for sure in game XMB is real and is coming very soon.

[Eidolon]

maybe. dont count your chickens

[Euphrate]

All of that plus free online forever,
for FREE =

PWNG*Awesomeness<Omegasome ness:MGS4=Infinitosius.

MGS4> X +Omegasomeness=? If Y= Omegasauce?
Inifitosius= X
Inifitosius*MGS4=Beyond + 3
Therefore Playstation 3 = B3YOND.

[KLEPTOMANIAC]

what the hell are you talking about?

[Yoma]

lol, I understood. You really have to like MGS :O

[InMyOpinion]

lol!

[Maverick_]

No... this is lol!

The Xbox brand is DEAD. Read the whole article before you comment. Xbox is going no where.

http://www.n4g.com/industry...

XD

[Maverick_]

hahahhahahahahhahahahhaha

Read it BIOTCH.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

:''(

[Bzone24]

Didn't the "analysts" say the the ps3 was dead last year?

[Epic]

Before I heard it was not possible for the PS3 to access the full XMB due to memory restrictions (so I thought only part of the XMB i.e. friendlists and music, was the best we could hope for).

Now I am seeing videos like these, where all the XMB icons appear.

Can anyone explain this?

Did anyone else notice "Dummy XMB"? Maybe its a smaller/less memory hogging/fake XMB running during games?

[uie4rhig]

yes there was a memory restriction before, but since one firmware (i think it was 1.90) 32MB was reserved for 'something' (nobody knew at that time).. and i guess that 32MB was for this ;) but if you notice, if all the categories load after being selected, even if they have been loaded before (e.g. at 4:20 he goes into XMB, XMB starts and loads on game, then goes to video and Videos load, then goes back to Game, and game loads again) so i would guess that there will be a restriction on how many icons there is in a category

and about the 'Dummy XMB' .. if you noticed, after Dummy XMB it said "(Debug)".. so i would guess that that is to make sure that XMB works properly on games (note that that firmware is a Debug firmware that developers get)

[Burekman]

I believe the full xmb access means that you can actually access (as in not just see the icons) everything ingame that incudes web browser, watching movies etc. And for that you would need a lot of ram which probably isn't possible.

[Epic]

32MB reserved ey, ah ok. thank you for explaining superaktieboy.

true Burakman, I don't think it would be possible to actually access these things during a game. the memory reserved is clearly not enough for that. though why put all the icons there if it wont be possible to actually view or play or run pictures, music and other applications respectively (during a game).

A bit of a tease don't you think to 'show the full XMB' i should say if a user is unable to 'access the full XMB'.

Thank you for your replies, appreciate it. bubbles for both.

[Milky]

I dont think you will be able to browse the internet or watch movies. I think it will ask you to exit game when u click on a movie or web browser. It just enables you to message people etc. I think.

[uie4rhig]

well to start with, watching a high def movie, you're gonna need a big more than 32MB.. and also when playing a game that's on bluray.. you won't be able to watch bluray movie anyway, since there is a disk already in the drive..

[Yoma]

It's the developers who chose what they will implement.

[uie4rhig]

about the ingame msging.. Sony has a button on their control panel that says 'Ban4eva'

what i don't get tho, is why Sony cared to put the 'Movie' and the 'Photo' category in game..

EDIT:
I could have sworn I click 'Reply' on 1 (replying to 1.1)

[Macho Man]

Yeaah, as long as Elizabeth doesn't take this one away from me I'll be in Macho heaven. YEAH. In-game XMB, now I can spread Macho Madness while I'm kicking the pants off of all those puny WWE "superstars." OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHH YEAAAAAH

[Johnny_Boy]

Ill be listening to the macho man's awesome rap album now as soon as they release the new firmware. I cant wait for this can finally turn take off my damn ipod when i play.

[Macho Man]

I'll tell ya, that album was the best thing I ever did, yeah. You can never have too much appreciation for the sights and sounds that can enter your ear throughout this world, YEAH. Take that Hogan, you'll never rise above OHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!

[R0l3]

Looks kinda fake. Why did he have to stop the car every time he accessed the XMB? I want to see the real performance of the game running whilst the XMB is being accessed.

[DARK-GRIM]

I cant wait

[Infinite-Ammo]

Well that was the most boring demonstration video ever, didnt show us much just someone playing Ridge Racer :S.

[Hulligan85]

Did the video really need to be 5:21 in length, when the only bit that was shown that anyone has any interest in (INGAME XMB)was about 5 seconds long?

[macsto]

i cant believe the hype over this, xbox 360 had this feature DAY ONE. Sony is still playing catch up?

[themyk]

i guess thats the difference between sony and microsoft.

sony worried about putting together an amazing GAME machine first and then incorporate amazing software.

microsoft worried about putting amazing software in their machine and thats pretty much it.

so lets see, i'll take an awesome game rig and wait for the software updates.

i wonder if the next xbox is going to incorporate some kind of HOME interface. i'll bet they do. then we can be all, oh i can't believe you're excited for that. we've been doing that for ever. bla bla bla.

go home troll boy. i can smell you're breath from here.

lol

mgs4=goty

[macsto]

I actually OWN a ps3 you moron, just stating the truth. Shame it hit a nerve.

And if MS decided to put soemthing like "home" in their next console, they will only be copying the people Sony copied, the creators of Second Life :)

[Cd311290]

Like how Microsoft played catch up by putting HDMI into the xbox?

[OMGLOLZ]

PS3 is playing catch up, and it's not our cash pushing it forward.

[B-Rein]

yeah but ps3 already has soo many features that xbox 360 could never have, ps3 will end up with the features it has it self and the 360 has.

[Epic]

I am looking forward to this, I shouldn't really worry how it works should I hehe as long as it does.

Did you guys notice that it was Ridge Racer 7 (an early PS3 game - this bodes well for past games). The game pauses when you access XMB however what happens when you try to access XMB during an online multiplayer session. Can't pause a game surely?

Is it a possibility that this won't work when playing a game such as 'warhawk' or 'pro evolution soccer 08' - games that can't be paused (well in pro evo's case, paused easily)?

What do you guys think?

[Super-Brad]

Well when your in a multiplayer game you can still press start and some sort of menu pops up, maybe thats all it will do. =/

[themyk]

i don't think it does pause the game. you can see the race timer still running.

[JaPo]

The majority of online games open up a menu when you press start but of course the action doesn't actullay pause for the rest of the world.

The XMB will simply come up regardless of whether you've paused it or not - like it does now.

This video looks very fishy to me. It almost looks like it could've been done on a PSP with some seriously savvy video editing. I hope the trophies interface is better than simply a crappy unified list. All the games should have their own folder and unlocked trophies within. Nice to see a time and date, though.

There is absolutely NO CHANCE the PS3 can run a video as well as a game at the same time, so don't get your hopes up people. If the PS3, like when you activate the news board, experiences technical hiccups with in-game XMB which causes game freezes etc. and there is barely ANY support for the trophies then I will immediately sell it and buy a 360. It's as simple as that.

The lines 'dummy XMB' + 'BGM' seem a little unprofessional to me so I'm not sure about that. Playstation Store ad clock :S!?

The thing the guy is using is probably a debug tester version. The retail copy will have refinements eg. the removal of video etc. from the XMB in game. I still have my doubts as the guy using it clearly has some form of mental retardation. Playing RR7 for ages when he could have been showing us in-game soundtracks and messaging etc. I hope he loses his job.

I'm staying indifferent.

[Epic]

yes you are right themyk, when he pressed the PS button (towards the end) the timer is still going. so the game is still fully running whilst in XMB mode.

As discussed above, it was mentioned that 32MB was reserved for *maybe* in-game XMB. but it was also established that it would probably be not possible to run music, browse the net whilst the game is running (as they take up too much memory - well more than 32MB).

So I was thinking maybe if the game is paused when the PS button is pressed then maybe the game (single player mode) stopped using memory during the XMB sequence. Whilst this assumption is not posible on an online game/session of games such as pro evolution soccer 08 (in which a game cant be paused whilst the ball is in play).

This is leading me to think, maybe this guy is not running the PS operating system on a retail PS3 but maybe a computer.

I'm confused.com

Someone explain please?

[uie4rhig]

32MB is MORE than enough to run a mp3 file in the background.. and also enough to run 1 or 2 pages depending what page you visit.. with this i mean either mp3 file or browsing..

erm the RAM will stay stuffed, even if you pause the game.. if you have played GTA IV, you will notice that when you press the PS button, the game first presses Start then goes into the PS button screen.. games would have to add that, coz PS3 doesn't do that auto..

This is leading me to think, maybe this guy is not running the PS operating system on a retail PS3 but maybe a computer.

nope this is not a retail PS3.. if its not a modified PSP firmware (as someone earlier mentioned).. it would be a debug system (which is only available to developers) so unless this guy is a developer, this is most likely fake

EDIT: about the browsing, this would be possible if the browser doesn't take too much ram it self that it (like Firefox 2 did)

[Epic]

very interesting responses, thank you people.
I think I understand it a bit more hehe.

hopefully it will be released soon and at a satisfactory level.

[LiquifiedArt]

The GAME DOES NOT PAUSE!!!!

Keep an eye on the Timer, the game is FULLY running during access to XMB.

[Super-Brad]

Pause the video at 0.56 in and there are some intresting debugging options like 'BGM player debug' I gather BGM stands for background music?.
What do you think on the option Playstion Store Ad clock means?

[Ri0tSquad]

But it is nice to see that it's the real deal and we'll get these features soon.

[Ri0tSquad]

To doubt it now.

Wonder why he didn't show off in-game music or in-game communication. I'm so mad it doesn't work with PS2/PS1 games. Then again....not even Xbox 360's guide isn't compatible with Xbox 1 games. Kudos to Sony for pulling this sh!t people thought was impossible to pull off.

[JaPo]

XMB SHOULD be compatible with PS1 games.

I can understand PS2 - very CPU intensive, signs you out automatically etc. The PS1 emulation however keeps you signed in and is effectively flawless. I have no doubt in my mind that they can do this. I wouldn't mind turbo boosting around a few corners on CTR with some nice music in the background.

Considering they have the visual settings already, and the fact PSOne emulation takes up barely any processing power, it's definitely possible to simply add a few things. How much RAM exactly does one need to play a song?

@hitman: Surely he'd have put a few vids and songs on for this monumental demonstration :S. He could easily have blurred his PSN out as well. Ah well, who knows?

EDIT: video got deleted, no doubt along with his contract. Proof.

[Ri0tSquad]

I still play Castlevania and MK trilogy on PS3 all the time. They said they didn't have a PS1 game handy so they couldn't test it out.

http://ps3news.com/
"It appears the in-game XMB does not work while playing PS2 titles, probably the same with PS1 titles as well although we didn't have a PS1 game handy to try."

I'll be surprised if PS1 games don't support it.

[thehitman]

There is no question that Sony has a working version off in-game xmb its just when will they release it.

EDit: Also I guess he coudlnt show us what you can actually do in it because 1. He had no music 2. He had no vids 3. Sony would know who leaking if he went to friends list.

[xtreampro]

are come-on!, that looked too cluttured up like the xbox shopping menue LOL!!

[C_Dub]

As long as I get in-game web browsing and in-game messaging/friends list I'll be fine. 2.4 FTW :D

[Ri0tSquad]

That consumes about 40mb of ram. Some PSN games could support it though You can expect in-game messaging/friends list with every PS3 game though.

[Imallvol7]

I can see it now . . . millions of PS3 owners foaming at the mouth rushing to download in game XMB. It's finally downloaded! They boot up a game and pull up the XMB in game! And then, they exit the game, and begin to wonder why they made such a big deal about it all along.

[thehitman]

i can see it now . . . millions of PS3 owners foaming at the mouth rushing to download in game XMB. It's finally downloaded! They boot up a game and pull up the XMB in game! And then, they exit the game, and begin to wonder why they didnt have this from the start.

Maybe you dont care because you dont have friends messaging you and things but for ppl like me its very important.

[JaPo]

There is also an option 'video upload debug' :s.

Seems rather ideal and appropriate to me. I strongly doubt such features would be presented in that way. As said before the it is perfectly feasible that he used a PSP to make the video. Almost.

[Awesomeo3000]

wat a painful video to watch how does this guy have firmware 2.40 yet cant barely play a videogame! very exciting time though cant wait but really i just want my mgs!

[drdre74]

waste of time on this video thats for sure. he didnt show anything

[Deathbringer]

i expected something better from that video
does anyone know when the new firmware is suppose to come out?

[pwnamon]

Wow, this is actually looking like it might stand a chance against XBL.

[Spydiggity]

sony releases a new firmware every other week.

and the only reason ya'll are so excited about it is...
a) you don't have any exciting games
b) they added features that make it more like xbox live

and to the guy who's basing his "xbox is going nowhere" on an article. in case you haven't noticed, there's a retard article every week saying that the systems are failing, then there's another retard article every week that says they are on top.

wii sold the most units, 360 moves the most hardware, and sony keeps praying they get a good game.

be a fanboy allllll day, who cares, you're in the open zone. but don't put links to other n4g articles where they say a system is failing (especially since THIS article has nothing to do with any system other than the one that's doing the most struggling...ps3).

[Dacapn]

I'm sorry, but the fact that MGS4 is coming out in a few days overshadowed everything you said.

[strotee]

a) completely subjective
b) still free :)

your post is oozing with jealously lol

[pwnsause]

another Bot in distress, need to get fired up?

[Jackthepwnsaur]

ouch. pwnsause just pwned you Spydiggity

[ScottEFresh]

^^Moron.

[juuken]

Jealousy is bad for your health you know.

[Spydiggity]

maybe all you ps3 fan boys read what i said wrong.

i have a 360, what do i have to be jealous of? every great game you have, i had first. every other great game you guys run your mouths about, never lives up to the expectations, and every other great game you guys run your mouths about hasn't even come out. I have all those great games from last year that were in contention for game of the year. hate to break it to you, but 360 and wii are DESTROYING ps3. your denial should not be the burden of everyone who actually uses their brain.

you morons crack me up. i came on here, made a statement that makes absolutely sense, but the fanboys start screaming "fanboy fanboy." it's like a preemptive strike against me. YOU ARE THE IDIOT FANBOYS. i just made a statement based on facts, and ya'll can handle the facts cuz when you get to the bottom of it you get this.

ps3 has no GREAT games, it has a horrid online community (oh i know you'll have your Home some day, where you can play house with your buddies and watch fake TVs inside your TV, and still run around talking to people with no microphone), and every time we hear of a great game like lair...it comes out and it's a huge flop.

metal gear MIGHT be a great game, but til you play it, you don't know. and i honestly hope it is a great game so you fruit cakes stop searching on n4g forums for people like me who actually make sense and aren't driven by fanboyism just so you can give us negative feedback.
grow up little kiddies, and go outside some times...

[tojfs7931]

That music was so hokey playing in the background.

[GVON]

the browser may be accessible, if you played the MGO beta you will know that the browser was used to access the game instructions, sign up to konami id, access your own homepage were you could create a blog and some other crap.
so i wouldn't rule it out

[C_SoL]

in-game playlists......

[cool8]

ok..

[lunchboy]

this looks official
i just hope this is 4 real and not fake
that would really be disapointing

but im sure this is real

[tojfs7931]

Could I have that 5:22 seconds of my life back please?

[Peow]

OH MY GAWD A CLOCK!

[oliverasadi]

Pause at 00:59 It Says Video Upload Debug Which Means We May Be Able to Upload Videos Aswell..

[budbundystyles]

YEAH!

[RobertGonz69]

not wait. The PS3 is getting better and better. Thank you Sony for listening to us all.

[ARog34]

I hope you have to hold down the PS button to bring up the XMB, I don't want to accidently lose grip and tap it, thus messing up... Then again I'm hoping it'd be this way.

Man, I want IG-XMB... and Home...

[BAZZA]

It'll actually be better to tap and come up the in-game XMB. The 360's guide button makes the guide come up after one press and i have never accidentally pressed the PS button or guide button.

[sabbath420]

to you ps3 fans on getting this feature finally after how long??? Trying to be more like xbox every day. As for MGS4, You all sure are putting a whole hell of a stock in this title. Hopefully for your sakes you do get a AAA title out of that overpriced so called game system. I have had my game system for almost 3 years now and have played 126 sweet games for it and downloaded a bunch of HD movies from the market place lately. Could not ask for a better gaming experience.

[pwnsause]

here my xbot friend you need this, i see your fear and distress, here you need this
http://www.parody-pages.com...

unless you need gay fuel if you go the other way around.

oh and by the way, 5 more days until judgment day

[Jackthepwnsaur]

"Could not ask for a better gaming experience."

You mean this: http://www.thebitbag.com/wp...

"I have had my game system for almost 3 years now and have played 126 sweet games for it and downloaded a bunch of HD movies from the market place lately"

same here i played about 100 games on my PS3 plus the games on the PS store, its gaining on the 360 in terms on how many games it has in its library. and I can watch movies as well, but in Blu-ray Format

Blu-ray> pwns> online Marketplace movies

i think you should give up trolling, it doesn't suit you well, because you suck at it, BTW pwnsause pwned you

[juuken]

Yet, another xbaby talks from his ass.

[B-Rein]

In-game xmb would be a great feature to have, cant wait for it

[Pika-pie]

4 mins of missing around then he finally shows us ingame XMB wtf was he doing? Dont get it, i smell a rat.

[Ri0tSquad]

Get a life.

[packerfan80]

looks clear, lol, well heres some news, i don't know if he was just kidding around, but i called sony for their port numbers and i was talking to the dude and i asked him when 2.40 would come out and he's like ju......, and someone yelded at him, sooooooo just to clarify, i'm not telling ne one that this is going to happen but i'm just saying what i heard