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Watch_Dogs is everything that's currently wrong with games

MWEB GameZone writes: "We take a step back and look at why Watch_Dogs’ failures are more unsettling in what it tells us about our culture and community than what it says about the game itself."

HanCilliers3585d ago

What a brilliant read. We all know the danger of hype, yet it seems we keep on falling for it with the release of every big game. Then we get so mad at the devs for not delivering what we thought they would, that we turn into raging lunatics. It seems that the majority of gamers will always be suckers for the promise of next-gen" this or next-gen that.

Indie's where it's at ;)

Hellsvacancy3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

You can't blame people for wanted better things, maybe if Ubisoft released footage of how the game ACTUALLY looks when you buy it there wouldn't be as much of a problem

They do it will nearly all their games, Far Cry 3, WatchDogs, The Division to name afew

They wouldn't get away with it if they did it in another market, false advertising

iamnsuperman3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

I don't know about you but they did. Right before release and after the hiatus (i.e. delay) all they showed is what we got. There were a load of articles about it. The only thing that didn't match up was the initial reveal which was more (like every new generation) was guess work

Ubisoft tends to have an issue of showing games way to early (which is what I attribute to the retail version never looking the same). However, they also have an obsession with showing too much and before release those always look like what we will get in the final product

HanCilliers3585d ago

Well said, I just think the hype can be toned down just a bit by the publishers

Baka-akaB3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

I sure can blame then and the "press" , when they randomly compare it all the time to other titles like GTA . Sure Ubisoft messed up with the original target rendering and the final graphics ... but most if not all of the promising gameplay and gaming content is indeed there in the game .

Personally if i found an area of the game very lacking , it was the story and how bland and uninteresting the hero actually is . Wich they can , and probably will fix , in the unavoidable sequel

SnotyTheRocket3585d ago

Maybe if you'd watched trailers released recently before the game came out, you wouldn't have been disappointed. Why is f*cking everyone basing their arguments off a demo from over 2 years ago. A lot of devs make their game look better at E3. The Last of Us, not in graphics, but AI. And I truly believe TLoU is the best game ever made. Or Dark Souls. People bitched about Dark Souls, but it didn't go this far.

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Skizelli3585d ago

Hype is of our own making. These developers are only trying to sell their product. It's a business after all. I don't agree with some of their tactics, but it's up to us as consumers to be smarter about it. I didn't join the Watch Dogs hype train, which probably explains why I enjoyed it so much.

iceman063585d ago

I agree. This tactic has been around for AGES! I don't see people getting upset when they go to McDonald's and the Big Mac doesn't look like the one on the commercials (that are heavily post produced by food artists). Why? Because we already KNOW that it won't. It's pretty much the same with any company that has a track record with this tactic. I was hyped for Watch_Dogs, but it had less to do with the gameplay and more to do with the hacking mechanic. If people were complaining more about THAT...well okay. But, we have ALL seen graphics be downgraded/augmented in the past. In fact, the PS2 era was dominated by CG trailers where we KNEW that we weren't getting that in gameplay. I think next-gen syndrome sucked people into not tempering their expectations. As you said, it's truly up to US to be smarter about these tactics. We know they are being used. We even know which companies tend to use them the most. In the immortal words of former US president Bush, "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice...and...umm...you can't fool me again!"

plut0nash3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

I feel like the need to provide eye candy while letting players blow crap up is a far greater priority than real depth. Stories are mostly hacked together and presented as motivations for killing. We do alot of killing in games, I'll admit that - but having real reasons to do so is so much more immersive.

Also, Watch Dogs was pitched as deep and morally questioning. Therein lies the problem. If it were sold as a game that let you hack, shoot and blow up as much as you wanted (GTAV), wherever you wanted then this wouldn't be a problem. Marketing is the problem for me. Tomb Raider 2013 was marketed as a survival game with Lara steeped with dirt and scars, yet it turned out to be a fun killing simulator with guns, bows and explosives.

I wish that we'd get told what games are to start off with, then we'd avoid much of the emptiness that comes from hindsight.

HanCilliers3585d ago

Very few triple A games actually succeed in delivering deep and morally questioning" games, if any! The target audience is still more interested in graphics, guns and action, not to mention sexy wimminz ;)

DanielGearSolid3585d ago

Gosh dang, so many "Me" and "I" in this article it hurts

HanCilliers3585d ago

Well it is an opinion piece...

ironfist923585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

Nothing will ever meet peoples overly-high expectations of anything.

I dont know why people continue to "hype" themselves, when just a few weeks, or even days later theres a barrage of comments along the lines of "it was shit, returned it the next day, cant wait for the next game!", time and time again.

Its like gamers have a severe case of ADHD these days. I approach new games objectively, analyse what they offer, the potential it has, the underlying themes and the concepts theyre playing with.

Most importantly, the gameplay and how unique and or different it is to break the trend of derivative and copy-paste gameplay from one genre to another.

I honestly cant even begin to comprehend all this graphics controversy, seems like everyone and their dog complains about this "downgrade" debacle. Yes it looks slightly inferior to what was originally shown, but it doesnt look bad at ALL! Its still a beautifully rendered game and fully realised world.

Hype and Graphics isn't whats wrong with the industry, its how gamers and journalists react to them which is.

HanCilliers3585d ago

I agree with you that journalists need to be more careful of adding to the hype, but publishers should also not promise things that they can't deliver. For example, the "connectedness & hacking" of Chicago in Watch_Dogs. Hacking didn't really provide a challenge and the concept of ubiquitous computing was really not as strong a feature as Ubisoft advertised.

ironfist923585d ago

They showed exactly what what was being delivered on the gameplay front. Whether it was challenging or not is purely subjective and based on the consumer, not the product itself.

starchild3585d ago

Some of you seem so immature and naive about the way the world really works. It's like you have never encountered marketing speak before and the exaggeration and hype that go along with it.

Nearly every product out there is marketed with buzzwords and exaggeration, but most of us know to tone down our expectations a few notches and do a little of our own research.

It blows me away that some people actually take that stuff to heart. When a game publisher or developer says something like "a living, breathing world" do you guys really believe that the world in the game actually exists somewhere and there are sentient lifeforms that populate it? And then get butthurt when you find out it really isn't?

mcarsehat3582d ago

Journalists reacted well to the finished game. What worries me is the wannabe journalists that post self indulgent opinion pieces on the internet because "They have the right answers."

With people aged from 16 to about 25 comes a rebellious streak that called be put down until they mature into later years and it is these people that are the most outspoken on the internet, it will come to a time where the best of games or films will just become down right hated for no reason.

brainfart3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

I was very disappointed with WD, but truth be told we should expect a fair share of crappy and unoptimize games from ubisoft, think about it ,why do you think dev companies like Nd, Bungie, and Cd projekt make great games because they dont focus on 10 games at once.A company like Ea, Activision, and ubi are more about quantity than quality thats why you will see more shitty games from the last three company's I mention!

ironfist923585d ago

Ubisoft is nothing like Activision or EA.

Lesser of three evils, sure, but they sure make a helluva lot more ambitious titles than rehashing the same crap every year. (And before you bark like a dog, AC isnt included in that example as each game provides us with entirely new setting, characters, story, and refinement in gameplay)

brainfart3585d ago (Edited 3585d ago )

I have to say being a pc player I had more problems playing ubi games(optimization).I have a valid point bf4 had more bugs than a rain forest ac4 and the ac4 with the black guy still playes like crap.not saying other dev dont have these problem, but ubi and ea have more problems than your average dev!

starchild3585d ago

AC4 doesn't run like crap on PC. It's just difficult to achieve 60fps. I have no problem running the game at 2048 x 1152 resolution with TXAA and get a consistent 30fps. I might be running it at 30fps, but it looks quite a bit better than the console versions.

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The entire WatchDogs series is 87% off and it's not even Black Friday

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Watch Dogs Deserves A Remake, More Than Ever

With the world of information and technology, privacy and security growing every day, Watch Dogs deserves another chance in the spotlight, now more than ever.

RaidenBlack1002d ago

The only Ubi title that deserves a faithful remake right now is Splinter Cell 1.
All 2014+ Ubi titles are just underwhelming. Especially ones from 2016+ are just cancer.

LucasRuinedChildhood1002d ago (Edited 1002d ago )

Seriously, are we so far removed from Ubisoft actually making good games that people now praise Watch_Dogs in retrospect?

"Watch_Dogs has remained one of my favourite games of the last ten years." Jesus Christ.

HankHill1002d ago

I remember being so disappointed in Watch Dogs when I played it at release. It was alright, but I think I fell for the hype and I needed a game to play on my new PS4.

obidanshinobi1002d ago

This is what happens when mediocrity gets praised as good.
Standards are slipping across the whole entertainment industry.
What was once considering rubbish is now considered as OK, what once was OK is now being praised as good etc etc.

LamerTamer1001d ago

Everyone has their own likes. I liked it a lot myself. I played through it twice and liked the car chases and the open world with fairly decent environments and missions. It suffered from the whole downgrade thing where they showed graphics that weren't actually there. No game will appeal to everyone but it was still ambitious for it's time.

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gantarat1002d ago

assassin's creed 1 should get a remake.

ExBee1002d ago

For certain! AC1 was brilliant at the time but with new graphics and gameplay it would be amazing! Do you prefer old combat or new though?

RaidenBlack1002d ago

I'd say a reimagining of AC1.
I direct AC1 remake would be a bad idea. It'll need better story pacing and significant better world building.

BlaqMagiq11001d ago

Old. Let it play like how it did with AC2-Syndicate style gameplay but refine the setting and story.

Profchaos1002d ago

It would need a lot changed for it to be enjoyable again as even back in 2007 on launch we were all complaining about it's repetitive gameplay go here perform one of three side quests repeat then assassination now do it over and over until a big battle with a unforgiving checkpoint system.

BlaqMagiq11001d ago

Absolutely. It needs it. The only AC I truly didn't enjoy.

chicken_in_the_corn1001d ago

I'd prefer it didn't. Ubisoft would make it so bloated, it wouldn't be anywhere near the original

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smolinsk1002d ago (Edited 1002d ago )

Absolutely, this watch dogs legion was terrible boring.

Profchaos1002d ago (Edited 1002d ago )

As a fan of the franchise legion was garbage and I regretted my purchase for the first time in the franchise the entire thing felt like an experiment in NPC behaviour and released without the writers input on what makes a good story.

I don't think I'm alone in that feeling though as wrench and Aiden are brought back and the campaign was rewritten to fit them.

I am tempted to buy the season pass to play it again with Aiden but fool me twice shame on me I'm waiting for a deep sale

camel_toad1002d ago

Agreed. Despite the annoying hipness of the characters in part 2 I thought it was a really fun game. I was extremely disappointed and surprised at how many steps back they took with Legion. You'd think it was made by an entirely different team. Or was it?

It was just so devoid of fun.

LamerTamer1001d ago

Honestly one of my biggest annoyances with Legion is that they took out the camera views for the driving. I mean the behind the car view that they stuck us with is near unplayable. I always used a first person driving view. After two releases why did they take OUT features? I don't get it.

TheSinsibleOne1002d ago

The fist watchdog game was the best by far
After that they weren't weird and annoying with that hipster stuff. Aiden was a badass.

LamerTamer1001d ago

I thought so at first too. I got used to it and it ended up being good after some play time. I just had to give it a chance.

TheEnigma3131002d ago

Remake the PoP series from xbox/ps2/gc era

RaidenBlack1002d ago

They are remaking Sands of Time.

TheEnigma3131002d ago

That's good news. Hopefully it's done right.

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Inside the Driver game that died so that Watch Dogs could live

From VG247: "When cars slide, they leave tyre marks. In a game like Driver, they’re an aesthetic touch, part of the inherent cool of a handbrake turn. But those dark shadows in the road also tell a story. From tyre marks, you can determine the speed of a vehicle, when it started to skid, and its ultimate direction of travel – long after the car itself has vanished into the distance."

vallencer1066d ago

Different spellings in different parts of the world friend. Tyre is a correct way to spell it.

Pridefall1066d ago

Dunno why you got downvpted when tyre is correct in Australia.

mikefizzled11066d ago

The mystery that is En Fore Gee

neutralgamer19921066d ago

Give us driver San Francisco remastered

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1066d ago

Why did they stop making some of the best games ever? Driver was one of them.

Gameseeker_Frampt1066d ago

Assassins Creed 2 showed Ubisoft how to make money and Far Cry 2 showed them that gamers don't like complex ideas. Now Ubisoft just turns out games that are just variations of the same thing.

WeAreLegion1066d ago

Best driving mechanics ever made. Nothing has come close.

Gardenia1066d ago

A story driven game with pure driving gameplay. I'd love to see a new Driver game or a remake of the first one.

ApocalypseShadow1066d ago

Yes. This one. A definite remake of the first without adding any ridiculous fluff. The first game had great physics and sound for its time. The start of the car in the beginning cinema I watched constantly. My father and uncles were big muscle and classic car freaks. Only thing crazy about the game was the relentless cops in the last level. Insane the way those police cars were and launched at you.

Bleemcast made it look better just like PC emulators. But would definitely take a remake.

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