Skewed and Reviewed have posted an opinion piece that asks if the pending Playstation TV and its ability to stream PS 4 content to another room in a house will be a boost for the system and possible trouble for Microsoft.
The PS4 already did that. Playstation TV could be a hit or a miss, if advertised right it could do well.
For me it is all about being able to remote play the games. If I can be upstairs and my wife downstairs with the system and we can both play in the game or better yet, both play two different games at the same time then this is a huge plus. I really do not care about the movie streaming as there are other options for that.
Should Sony eliminate the latency issue with game streaming, this could spell out quite the innovation for Playstation. For $100 getting a game streamer for another part of the house is not a bad deal at all, and it's even Vita compatible.
The cheap price and the fact that USA customers prefers playing on a big screen TV; this Will give the boost the PS Vita needs in order to grow. I hate those "Oh but competition is in trouble because of this product" BS, if gamers are gamers then they'll buy the console. Stop having the useless fanboy console wars and fight against BS.
Game streaming from a PS4 to PS:TV is great, but AAA Vita games from Sony are not in the cards anymore as Sony has already mentioned. The expensive streaming service PS NOW, won't help this device either. PS:TV as it stands right now is just another companion device for the PS4, which in my opinion means that it won't sell all that much better than the PS Vita.
I don't see how PS TV can do anything to MS. Now if there was a PS4 + PS TV bundle, then it could be even worse for the XBO, since it's essentially 2 PS4's in the house for the price of an XBO w. Kinect. Otherwise as a standalone product, absolutely not. I see PS TV more as a Vita reviver than a real standalone console. It's like what the 2DS has done for the 3DS, provides an entry level price for a dedicated gaming experience. I don't see it taking off in masses, but I do see it picking up numbers in the NA and EU allowing Vita to reach a better average of back up to the 50k - 60k range, up from it's current 30k - 40k weekly average as a standalone device, and a PS4 bundle could help get those numbers even higher.
@ Randomass, the lag is almost non-existent to even worry about at all. I have crap internet, and I play my PS4 through my PS Vita remotely most nights when I go to bed, and I play fast reaction games like Resogun and Assassins Creed 4 fighting etc and I've NEVER had a single problem over my wireless connection. This device IS a vita with no screen. You use any TV you want for the screen. It uses both PS3 and PS4 controllers and supports 2 of them at a time. Plus all the other crap like Netflix and will be PS Now compatible. I already have a Vita so I prob won't purchase it, but it's such a good deal and this is such a unique piece of tech.
You can only play one game if your streaming from your PS4
I will buy it, sooner or later.
There are so many devices to connect to your TV. Playstation TV is just another one. I don't think it will be that popular (might be wrong).
If they can deliver with the apps and have most Vita games support DS3 imo, this could be a heavy hit against streaming boxes and other Micro Consoles.
PSTV is cool, but why would it be that popular? The ability to play Vita games is the selling point, not streaming gameplay from remote play. By the way, is it games availiable on ps vita store also available? like psp games?
This is what they say about that. Hundreds of titles to download and play, including many PlayStation Vita games, classic games from PSone® and PSP® systems, and more.
And it doesnt stream any of it through PSNow?
@ 60FPS, no it doesn't stream any of it through PS Now. That is a different service that will add full PS3 games to the mix, and another way to play a host of other games as well. You can also just buy games the normal way, vita games, ps2 and ps1 classics
It will have PSNow later. Same with Sony TVs and other select products
Its a general, cheap, media device which allows access to almost every Playstation title. More so if you own a PS4. Its biggest issues will be whether or not Netflix and Hulu are playable on it, as well as Vita titles that need the touch pad.
Netflix and other apps can be Used on the PSTV :)
I wouldn't go so far as to say every title. It's more likely most titles, that is, a a good chunk of the Vita compatible games on PSN will work on the PSTV. Gateway MT6706 2008
Keep in mind that Playstation TV was branded as Vita TV in Japan. It runs off of the same hardware, so that's why it can play most of the games in the Vita library. But it's for television so you can do a little more with it, such as stream your PS4 games.
You can buy, download, and play Vita, PSP, and PSone games. You can also stream PS4 games through Remote Play, and PS3 games through the internet with PS Now. So for only $99 you're getting some serious gaming potential with an utterly HUGE catalog of titles. If they can add PS2 Classics support to Vita and PSTV that would make it a complete PlayStation ecosystem in one box.
^^^^^^^^This is a coherent and on-point statement.
the ability to play vita games isnt really its selling point due to low vita sales and confusion between what vita game is compatible and what isnt. i presume killzone, tearaway and uncharted will not work. streaming gameplay from another console or psnow is a bonus for current playstation owners. however, the vita store has a massive selection of psp and psone games. psone games are at a pretty decent price and im sure that games under £5 would be a success. anyone know if two players is available on pstv?
The Vita game feature seems boring to me, as most games i want require the touch pad. If PS2 support is ever added, then i will buy one, but i already have a psone and all the games i would ever want on it
Yes 2 players at a time can play, meaning 2 controllers can be connected to the Vita at one time. I think it will sell well BECAUSE there are low Vita sales, and because of what this cheap box can do all in one. I have a vita for only 6 months, and it's because of all the great games that are there that i never didn't get to play, so I caved in a bought one. There are literally millions of people in the same predicament that want to play games like Persona 4 Golden, and all the free PS Plus games they have. NOW they can play them on a 99 dollar box that also streams their PS4. This little box will sell like crazy if they advertise it right
these tv set top boxes are a risk and its not really clear who its targeted for. however, ps4 gamers may wish to put this into their room so they can stream their ps4 from the living room somewhere else. or it could be used if someone decided to visit relatives for a week or so and could just bring the pstv over instead. non playstation owners may want to try a psone game or 2. they can also but ps+ and get two random games free a month. there are people like me who still hasnt invested in a appletv etc.. though i do have sky so thats probably why. however at its current stage, it is going to have trouble compared to fire or appletv. this decive not for everyone, but for some people it maybe the perfect device.
Its like a Vita that connects to your TV screen that can be controlled through a DS3, and it has the benefit of having an Ethernet port (allowing it to more easily remote play and stream PS Now games) You can play PSP/PS1 games that are downloadable from the PSN store on it, and Vita games that support DS3 (hopefully they will get as much games as possible to) and it can stream apps and what not to your TV. I thinking the biggest point of it is being able to remote play from a PS4, second it being a Microconsole.
Face it. It can be the biggest thing Sony has ever created.
IF you live on planet Mars.
ps tv can be massive. heres a few things it needs. 1. revamped gui 2. remote comtrol 3. needs more tv apps? uk is lacking, not sure what us has. 4. package that with ps4.
It has : Gaiam TV Redbox Instand Hulu Plus Crunchyroll NHL Gamecenter Qello HD Concerts Crackle NBA Game Time Netflix Youtube (I wish I had more bubbles)
I have a feeling this will fail bad as well as ps now if its not priced right
The PSTV already has a price.
yes $99 I still think it wont make it so far. I can see it going place in 3rd world countries tho.
ps now is priced alright. not great but priced accordingly to the psn store prices. actually psnow is priced great compared to gamestop. everyone was eecting ebay prices which wa never going to happen.
It won't fail for me. I'll buy one since my PS3 died and plus I will be able to play Vita games on this too =D
I dont think it will cause Microsoft any trouble however those firms that produce devices like the Ouya might be.
the only way ms could be affected is if this is packaged with ps4 at a good price. apart from that, i cant see how it is related.
Just need to get around that damn pricing for PS Now!
It might be like half the price of a ps4 to mayb sway customers to just get another ps4 lol :)
'Will Playstation TV Spell Trouble For Microsoft and a Boost For Sony?' If PS TV becomes a thing i.e big deal, what's to stop other companies from developing their own 'stream on any TV' device/accessory. Mad Catz, Niko and other third parties can "borrow" the (assuming there is no all bases covered patent) idea for any system from PS4-PC. These types of articles are divisive, and sliver in the suggestive demise of, the victory of... Besides click-bait, most only serve to inflame fan warfare, and are unhelpful to gaming. MS/Sony/Nintendo have their audience, and all provide alternative entertainment services for their respective customers. I'm truly honored to share such an amazing past time/hobby/medium that is Gaming, whether we have agreed or disagreed :)
They are going up against Google, Amazon, etc. Sony is not going to win against Android.
the PS TV is such a great thing on paper but when you get down to the nitty gritty, it won't make as many customers buy it as you would think It is going to need a VERY STRONG wireless signal to perform unto standards as a regular ps4, I'm talking if you want no lag/latency you are going need one of the best wireless internet your ISP provides. we can already tell this by the way the Vita and the PSNow reacts to poor internet. pair this with what the thing actually can do its gonna be a tough sell. employees who sell this have to tell the truth this is NOT -a second ps4 in your house like people make it seem to be, all it is, is exactly what its called... Vita TV, its a Vita on your TV its the same specs, so DONT EXPECT perfect no lag gameplay. -im sure only one of these will work at the same time, I'm almost positive that i can't play my actual Ps4 and have my friend play my Ps4 from the Vita TV and play different games online or even the same game online. For the $100 price tag its literally for a family of two who don't want to migrate the ps4 up and downstairs. DONT EXPECT TO PLAY YOUR PS4 AND VITA TV AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!
So tv is cool now for consoles? Copy.. Now i guess exclusives are not important I love the gaming community here at n4g
They are a special bunch aren't they! Lol
Are you people broken? PS TV is NOT TV. It's all about gaming. Guess trolls can't be bothered to know what the hell they're taking about, though.
You do realize that this has nothing to do with TV adn everything to do with games. Or do you just not care about looking up the simplest of facts?
And Xbox fanboys like yourself and your clone below you are still ignorant and don't research before they post to try and find hypocrisy where it doesn't exist. How embarrassing for you. PlayStation TV is not TV-related. It's a game-related peripheral that allows you to play Vita games on your TV, stream games and use a second TV to play your PS4 games. Air1... You guys are the special bunch. I only had to spell it out for you.
Sounds like Sony has very bad marketing going on so now it's Sony and it's fanatics that are the special bunch.. "Play station tv" and it has nothing to do with "tv" ya Sony ya!
Dude, are you actually stupid? That brain... use it. Your first sentence made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Your second was equally as horrible: If Sony used 'PlayStation Vita TV' (the Japanese name for the existing product), it would be associated with the Vita. This is a PlayStation product, across all parts of the ecosystem for all consoles. PS3 through PS Now, PS Vita games and PS4 gaming. Don't pretend Sony are the retarded ones for changing the name of their product to market for the west that encompasses all aspects of their gaming brand. It's a product that you.... PLUG INTO YOUR TV. and use it to game... on your.... TV. A bit like a console if you think about it hard enough. God... the stupidity hurts, so badly.
this site is a joke you guys make even NeoGAF look unbiased I own both xb1 and ps4 and although I like ps4 slightly more doesnt mean I go around spreading my legs for it go on rain me with your disagrees.
Can I also ask what your comment has to do with this article or any of the comments here? If the site bothers you so much why even visit it? These articles come from all over, N4G is just a collection tool, the aren't sourced from N4G. So blaming N4G for any of these articles makes no sense either and seeing you just joined 7 days ago, maybe you weren't aware of this?
im reffering to the rabid fanboy mob mentality in the comments not the articles want proof look at anyone who is proMS and I guarantee you they have less than 3 bubbbles even if theyre not trolls I come here for game news but cringe everytime I see these threads.
Again that is why I asked, there really aren't any negative comments here and even most the Sony fans, such as myself don't necessarily see this being any concern to Microsoft as much as I like the little device. You haven't been here too long to really say that, try being on this site for years and you will see no matter what fans are on supporting, rabid ones always exist on every side of the line. Singling out fans as if no Microsoft fans are bad or no Nintendo fans are bad is just really ridiculous. Stupid people are on every corner of the earth. There are plenty of pro Microsoft people with plenty of bubbles, some are complete assholes also and still have tons of bubbles so your point really doesn't stand. What you're describing is a very skewed view of N4G. You should have been here when almost every Microsoft fan believed MisterX, they were all doing the same stupid things every stupid Sony fan was, some even still do. The reason so many of them have been hush hush lately and the reason you probably see so many of those same accounts with no bubbles being nice now, is because they have been proven wrong so many times they can't even troll anymore without looking like complete idiots. Regardless the idiocy exists on all sides and all sides have trolls who just hate to love to hate. I really never understood why people can't see that and always assume it is just Sony fans or whatever fans you want to call out, it seriously only adds to the fire. The comments here were very reasonable and saying something like this will only bring out those idiotic fans you don't like in the first place. Not like it matters really but I didn't give you that disagree, I just asked why you brought that negativity here when there wasn't any to begin with, not saying N4G is perfect. Just saying there wasn't much reason to post that in this particular article.
Isn't the xb1 already dead according the Sony fanatics?
Yup. So is the Wii U. The PC doesn't exist.
Man what is wrong with you guys and your victim complex? Taking things others have said and skewing them out of all recognition. No-one is saying it's dead. PS4 is wiping the floor with it, is all.
"Scewing them out of all recognition" Kind of like how you Sony fanatics act when it comes down to resolution? How all you have bionic eyes and can count the extra billion pixels and the games look soooo much better that it's unbelievable? Stop pretending like you don't see all the " it's too late" comments and opinion articles...
That's a really bad counterpart to use as a comparison. There are measurable differences in resolution when it's almost doubling the number of pixels on screen. You can see it in the clarity of the picture no matter where you are standing or sitting where the frame is clearly visible. If you don't see it, you have very poor vision or just don't care enough about fidelity to notice that the image is not as clear or as crisp. By the way, fidelity is something that we continually strive to improve and set standards for in display technology, just so you know. The differences don't take superhuman eyesight to see. Examples are as clear as day if you know what you're talking about, something you wish you did: http://i.minus.com/iW998p1o... Sorry, dude... but a MUCH bigger deal was made of a difference of around "20p" and around "5fps" last gen for absolutely every single multiplatform PS3/360 game that went under the agenda-based 'Lens Of Truth' and posted on here. ------ And who's actually denying the "it's too late" articles?? It's DEFINITELY too late for the Xbone to catch up to the PS4 in practically every regard, but mostly what we're talking about, is global sales and market share.
If the DS4 touchpad will allow us to replicate the Vita's rear touchpad thus allowing every Vita game to ba compatible then this will be a must buy for any gamer. But no it won't spell trouble for MS, it isn't competing with the Xbox One. It's competing against the Apple TV, Google TV, and that Amazon Fire thing.
As much as I would love to see this successful, lets be realistic if the PS Vita isn't doing that great, this won't either. To me it will be great but the Vita has so many mixed views as it is and because of that it has never done super well in NA. So I can't imagine people wanting this just because, with how stupid consumers are these days I doubt they will even know what it is and automatically assume all it does is TV. So if anyone does buy it, more than likely it won't even be for remote play or the Vita counterpart of it. Not saying people who know what it does can't get some use out of it but we all know how the majority of people are, not very bright.
they could make a bundle with the PS4 than I might see it take off, anyway fix those PS now prices sony!
No. Flat out. No. I believe Sony is already starting to send a confusing message with the PSVita. Is it a handheld game device or a streaming PS4 Controller???? Playstation TV may be clear to you and me, but the average consumer will be lost. But that all depends on the marketing level Sony puts into it. So this is all opinion and will be decided solely on Sony's commitment to the product.
As far as latency goes I will have no problems. My internet can easily handle it.
Lol Playstation TV won't be too successful. It's in a crowded market and is simply outmatched. Also with Google TV coming in it's simply outmatched. And MS isn't even in that market so who cares about them.
its definitely a nice touch. But I think PSNow is the bigger advantage. imo (as long as the pricing is not out of this world that is) Also I'm a bit surprised that Sony was the one to implement the PSTV thing, and not MS. MS competes directly with the likes of Amazon and Google, and they have their own tv streaming devices but not MS.
I will be getting the play station TV just for the streaming anything else is gravy, it is such a great idea. I hope Microsoft does something similar and maybe also include PC streaming both to a TV like device and to the xbox, that would be very cool. I often move consoles and pcs around so this for me is a really great option to have with the ps4.