The new Xbox always looks pretty attractive at the start of each new generation. But each time, the competing PlayStation console ends up with more.
how many times can I play a new Halo or Gears? I have not complained about Unchartered, God of War, Gran Turismo, Resistance and the many, many other sequels exclusive to Sony.... 360 had many great games, sure not as many as PS3 at the end, but to single out 2 games like thats it, sad..... Its a business...... I hope developers never listen to the likes of you.
"Damnit, I Won't Be Tricked Into Buying Another Xbox" Says PSXTREME wtf is this man? Ok quick clarification on this article and anyone else who attempts to parrot the same thing this guy saying. "I'm tempted to get the Xbox One because I really want to play Sunset Overdrive, and I'd also like to have Fable Legends. There are actually several exclusives on the horizon I'd want. But no, I won't fall for it again; I absolutely refuse. What assurance do I have that the same thing wouldn't happen again?" Heres your assurance: http://www.gamespot.com/art... At lot of the new things actually impact the broader audience over time. Winning that core gamer year after year is a focus of mine as Head of Xbox." He's been saying this since March. Its about games, its about games, its about games, games, games, games with Phil Spencer. I personally wouldn't want anyone else in charge of Xbox besides Phil. The day Phil, resigns, retires or whatever it is, the day I might just hang up my Xbox. Because once that happens Xbox will be exploited into a giant TV box and everything will change for the absolute worse. That's my personal stance. Winning that core gamer year, after year is what hes says hes doing. It happened last year and even better this year and next year will be even better. What does MS need to do next E3 Game on 2 or 3 sequels at next years E3? The agenda is positive. Phil says gamers first year after, after year I'll have my controller next to me ready to play, year, after year, after year.
Man, since Phil says it, it must be obviously true. It's not like anyone during the tail end of the 360 didn't say the exact same stuff about supporting the console or anything. Look, the article is kind of stupid since you can write one saying the exact same thing about the PS4 if you disregard everything it has to offer. But, citing a quote from a person who's trying to sell you the product as an "assurance" of some sort against said opinion is just silly.
For me, most of the games I want are on both systems. The one Xbox game that could pull me in is Quantum Break, but I want to know that it wont be the only reason why I want the system. FF15 and Kingdom Hearts are on both, but I absolutely want the best graphical version for these titles so that definitely a PS4 purchase right there. @nicksetzer1 I'm pretty sure you were taken down by the community. If it was by an admin, you probably wouldn't be able to comment.
While I agree about Phil potentially changing the culture of Xbox from that of multiplat reliant and Kinect or bust that is the 360, you have to look at history and the whole story... http://n4g.com/news/1534182... You can't just let them off the hook for the last 3 or 4 years. The 360 started off strong early on and died mid cycle. That could happen again. Hopefully it wont. The last few years of the 360 I found myself forcefully buying multiplats on it just to play something. I hope that won't be the case when I pick up an X1 this fall....
How long does it need to be supported for the current pricetag to be justified in your eyes? Do you really want these current consoles to last 8 years again? The 360 lasted some 4 or 5 years before support dried up. Personally I do not regret buying a 360, so if the One gets the same ~4-5 years of good support I will be satisfied. I'm not suggesting Microsoft handled things well dropping (or refocusing) support without launching a new console for core gamers. I am just curious about expectations and demands for this gen. For me the last gen dragged on way too long.
@Volkama You do realize you're trying to justify MS not supporting their consoles with games. Then that tells you MS is not doing something right. The console should at the very least be supported till a new one comes out regardless. And a consumer focused company will support it a while longer and not just immediately drop support at launch of a new console or the mid lifespan of a console.
***Do you really want these current consoles to last 8 years again? *** Is it wrong that I actually do? I'm very content with the level of graphics we get now and would rather see those last 4+ years of the console's life spent developing better gameplay elements rather than flipping over and focusing back on graphics on new hardware with its own buzzwords and gimmicks and price tag.
I agree with the article...But the solution is simple...This gen I am waiting 4 or 5 years...That will give a enough time to see if this gens console is supported as promised...
The article, ridiculous. Especially coming from a PS fansite. However, the concerns regarding Xbox One's support drying up are not far fetched. MS started off roaring strong with 360, stealing exclusives from the PS brand left and right, coming out with new IP (Gears) that sold extremely well and established the console as the go-to place for shooters, both first and third person. They built an online system unrivaled by anything else on consoles. Then Sony stepped their game up. They flexed their first party muscle and started cranking out exclusive after exclusive. They beefed up their online system to make it somewhat comparable to Live, though it would never get there all the way on PS3 due to the system not supporting certain features from the start like cross game chat. Sony created PS+ and it took off like a crackhead during a police raid. How did MS respond? By dialing back the number of exclusives they invested in, relied heavily on the 3-4 good selling games they had established earlier on in the generation, and then they tried to shove Kinect down everyone's throat. It isn't crazy to be suspicious that they might try something similar. Going full on sprint for the first leg of the race, then tiring out and panting their way to the finish line as the competition screams past them. Phil is definitely a good speaker, a good PR rep, and a younger person that many of the 18-35 gamer generation can identify with. So far he's doing good, but back in the early days of Xbox 360 that was the case too. Allard, Nelson, etc. were all just as popular back then... then most of them quit the company and everything went downhill. So, it'll be interesting to see how it all pans out, and I can't hold it against anyone for being suspicious that history will repeat itself. Last time, it was almost as if they expected the generation to only last 4 years, but then RROD set them back a billion dollars and they had to make all that money back, so they tried to milk another 4 out of it before investing in a new console. You could tell investment from MS into the console was drying up. No new studios, no new IP, etc. So, if Xbox One doesn't perform as they hope, it could happen again.
@Cgoodno "citing a quote from a person who's trying to sell you the product as an "assurance" of some sort against said opinion is just silly." Ok well what else am I suppose to do? Tell me if its not Phil I should trust then who should I trust? That doesn't make any sense considering this guy proved himself already. "It's not like anyone during the tail end of the 360 didn't say the exact same stuff about supporting the console or anything." MS said similar to what Phil did? If you provide a source that would be much appreciated. @Lab Your gonna believe a quote about Kinect but not Phil's long term goals? Maybe you should read @Cgoodno's statement: "citing a quote from a person who's trying to sell you the product as an "assurance" of some sort against said opinion is just silly." So how is this any different when I'm a citing a quote from Phil? People believe your quote and disregard my quote despite the fact its coming out of the same guy. Wow(man ppl) Anyway. Btw there's only a handful of Kinect games out now. I'm pretty sure Phil wouldn't just suddenly stop producing hardcore games in favor of Kinect casual games, back track, and re-re-focusing on Kinect. A niche and dwindling market, and leaving the core fans behind once again that's stupid and makes no sense. "You can't just let them off the hook for the last 3 or 4 years. The 360 started off strong early on and died mid cycle. That could happen again." How do you know it could happen again with a game centric boss focused on hardcore gaming crowd? I don't wanna debate about something that's in the future we can go all night about that.
***Tell me if its not Phil I should trust then who should I trust?*** Actual results, nothing else. Same with everyone. You don't listen to them talk, you see what they actually do. ***MS said similar to what Phil did? If you provide a source that would be much appreciated. *** http://bgr.com/2013/09/04/x... "Microsoft expects multiplatform games to perform very well for buyers who have yet to make the jump to the next-generation Xbox One. " Wow. Such support. Much first party. Feeling love. http://www.geekwire.com/201... You tell me how people should feel with first party support nosediving since year 4 of the console itself why they would believe comments like this? Or take it to me that they, Microsoft, are actually supporting the consoles with an influx of games?
@Cgoodno no, you are not wrong to want the consoles to last 8 years. I posed that as a question because it was a question :) For me personally, in 5 years time the consoles will be so far behind my PC that they will be fading to irrelevence anyway and I will want a refresh. But that is probably because I am a tech enthusiast (nerd), as well as a gamer. @UTalkinToMe, I am not justifying MS dropping support for their console without a new one on the market. I think that was big a mistake on their part, it let enthusiasm for the brand whittle away and I am sure it is a contributing factor to them losing some of their core audience.
LOL. These articles get approved so fast, it almost seems like the person who submitted the articles, has another 10 accounts to approve the article in such a short time. Quick, approve it before someone reports it... LOL.
Flamebait stuff. People here love it.
And don't forget the N4G mods who support these articles and sites.
OK how often does any of those games come out. Once every 4 years on Ave besides uncharted which 4 will probably be the last for 4 years. Get your facts straight people do complain because these game come out so frequently. For a horizon 2 is announced before the last for a game was on the market a year. Fan boys are idiots, you all will try to make the most lopsided arguments possible. Gran tourism seen three releases on psychological with only 2 real games. God of was 2 games in 7 years.resistance 3 games in 7 years. Now ms. Halo 4 games 6 years , gears 4 games 6 years, fable 4 games 6. For a I can't even count they have like 6 or 7 games in 8 years. But that is a fan by argument that Ms doesn't milk the shot out of franchises. Just sony. I don't know why ms fan boys hate Sony so much
Thatz tha history of MS consolez - MS lays on tha exclusives pretty thick up in tha beginnin courtin stages. Then straight-up neglects yo' needz as time goes on makin you feel unloved ta tha point where you find yo ass up in tha armz of another console! Seriously though, Sony has a pimped out history of providin a phat stream of qualitizzle exclusives as well as providin a phat VARIETY of gamin experiences.
good lord man did snoop dog write this unenglish crap?? must be 15 not attacking you fizzle- MY- jizzle .
Xbox as a brand has always been sub-par. Really wish SEGA was still around making consoles they made some bad financial decisions, but they had the great consoles and WAYY better first party titles. microsoft could never fill that void in any capacity.
I'd buy a new sega console in a heart beat.wish they still made consoles too.
But going by the diminished quality of their games, I'd say their most talented creative minds have long since left the building. What good would a Sega console be with their current standard of shovelware on it?
Agreed. MS is so straight-laced and corporate focused- it blows my mind that they ever managed to get a foothold and credibility in gaming. It's only because of their deep pockets I guess.
I enjoyed both my xbox original and 360, although, I kinda grew to dislike my 360 by the end of the gen (live increasingly seemed like a bit of a rip off). All I know is if xone doesn't sell better expect xone 2 (or whatever) to be released in 3 or at most 4 years, with xone support dropping well before then.
Had live since the OG XBox, never seen it as a rip off. 3 quid a month for great online, and now free games as an added bonus. Throw in rewards and I'm a happy bunny.
Sucks for that guy. I bought an XB1 and a PS4 because I enjoy games. This console war crap is pretty pathetic. Remember when video gaming used to be fun? Bunch of pubescent teens running around nowadays with mommy and daddy's money. Pathetic.
It's stupid. I didn't buy a ps3 last generation because all my friends are on xbox and I wasn't interested in many ps3 games, but it's still a great console! I have a one, and I'm going to get a ps4 down the line. There's no 'better' console, it's all down to your own tastes.
I know it's all personal preference. It's just that your personal preference happens to be weird as fuck.
*Remember when video gaming used to be fun?* Oh yeah , well i do remember the PS2 era being fun with no console wars whatsoever , its just people giving M$ a free pass to do anything they want to create more fanboyism on the gaming community by moneyhatting some titles originated to Playstation , back in the day people rarely call each other fanboys , till the XB360 reveals and things becomes worse and worse
Say that to the MegaDrive/Genesis and SNES owners back in the 1990s...
@SkullBlade169 OH REALLY ? https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Those were the good old days when people didn't think it was there right to put down others but simply enjoy the same hobbie its such a shame that people who have only been gamers for a short period think they are better than those like myself who have been into video games since 1977
It depends. I remember being my original Xbox and Xbox 360. I bought both for the exclusive games they had from some of my favorite developers. I got the OG Xbox for games like Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive and Dead or Alive Xtreme. I got the Xbox 360 for the games mentioned and the exclusive JRPGs at the start of its life. Got the Blue Dragon bundle. Little did I know, Microsoft would forget all about unique experiences like this and would start to focus on nothing but dude bro shooters for the rest of the generation. I'll have to see how dedicated Microsoft is to Japanese support this generation. I don't want a repeat of last gen where they suddenly stop caring about Japanese games and my Xbox is left collecting dust.
BS dude, OG Xbox was amazing - first ever working console online multiplayer, damn that thing was quality... 360 was a hardware disaster and had a poor end of cycle, but was still a decent console. X1 is underpowered, compared to the PS4, but not by any massive margin like PS2/OG Xbox era. Multitasking and kinect commands/naviagtion is amazing, games still look great, built in TV is really well done, updates every month directly as a result of our requests, rewards, community ambassadors with sweepstakes, weekly competitions, upcoming TV content etc.. Anyone who thinks X1 is, or will become, a failure is just plain wrong. None of the Xboxes have been a failure.
Sony is just as guilty as Microsoft when it comes to the same sequels for each new System
Pretty much. As I said above, it's just one person discounting what they don't like, which you can do on any platform. I'm not a fan of shooters, but I'm not going to shoot down the whole XB1 because they have more exclusive shooters than Sony...
That's not what this article is about. He is talking about how the 360 got tons of exclusives in it's early years but the exclusives slowed down in the later years. By the end, there was nothing that he had an interest in. I can understand where he is coming from. I bought a 360 and loved it. I enjoyed games like Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Dead or Alive Extreme 4, Dead or Alive Xtreme 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, and Rumble Roses XX. But as the time went along, the list for core exclusive games got thinner. It got to the point where the only core exclusive games that would come out was a new Gears of War, a new Halo, and a new Forza. Microsoft shifted most of their attention to the Kinect and never looked back. At that point, the PS3 was getting way more core exclusives and more variety in them. He is saying the same thing can happen with the XBone. It may get games like Sunset Overdrive, Project Spark, Zoo Tycoon, Crackdown, Dead Rising 3, D4, and killer Instinct now, but will Microsoft do what they did with the 360 and let all this variation in exclusives die out?
nice to see even the mods dont read the articles they comment on. Its like konsoru said, MS dont bother supporting the older console once the new one is out, they even took games away from the 360 to bolster the xbones launch ffs. l2r
His loss, not mine.
Expertly put. I will continue to enjoy my XONE.
Seen PSextreme and already knew what kind of article it was. Sure ps extreme we believe you \S
The way Microsoft dropped support for the OG Xbox and 360 the last couple years of its life has really turned me off of the Xbox brand. I most likely will get one once Quantum Break and Halo 5 are out - as long as they are good. I also want Killer Instinct. Nothing else from E3 interested me though except MCC. Currently I'm a PS3/PS4/Wii U owner.
The trick me into buying Xbox One but will treat me with games like Halo MCC, Forza Horizon 2, new IPs like Sunset Overdrive,Quantum Break, Scalebound, bringing back fan requested classics like Killer Instinct and Phantomdust and update the firmware every month with such requested features like HDD support. Man,I feel terrible of owning one now./S Anyways, Fable Anniversary, Project Spark, Titanfall and Forza Horizon 2 is scheduled or already released this year to support an almost 10 year old system while still have plenty of AAA games release this Fall on XB1. What is the issue here? Wow, a negative xbox article from psextreme? Shocker!!
Dammit! I won't be tricked into clicking another dumb article again
The truth is, MS BUYS exclusives, they dont generally make them. Naturally as the generation wears on it becomes more and more expensive for them to buy exclusives because the instal base of the competition gets bigger and bigger, requering a larger sum to persuade the developer not to release on Playstation. This generation we have reached this point sooner than last generations because of PS4's sales. Fact is, normally MS doesnt mind because by the time buying exclusivity becomes too expensive they have already saturated the core gamers who bought into their system and MS now wishes to cater to the larger casual market. The coregamers will be happy by releases of the likes of Halo and gears, plus whatever multiplats are available, and the core gamers dont know what other core gamers are getting on competing consoles, so they are happy. This is MS's gameplan.
if your reason is to replay the Halo series a.k.a Masterchief collection for you to buy a Xbox One..thats funny
Ironically I feel the same way but in the opposite direction. My PS3 just never got any play time so, I sold it cheap to my friend who would give it the love it deserved. It is all a matter of taste though.
And you dont have any!
I thought Anaphylactic shockers was bad. That website is the worst of the worst.
Tomorrow he will buy another Xbox.
Why buy an X1 if you own a PS4, it makes no sense to me, waste of money. I would rather invest that in a powerful PC rig. I would have bought a PC rig this gen but 8K tvs haven't released and when I buy one, it better play [email protected] fps from how powerful I want my beast to be.
Why own a PS4 instead of an X1? Most PS4 games are indies followed by a few f2p, all of which can be played on another platform. A waist of money unless you are an absolute fan of KZ or Infamous. Besides, Yoshida has pretty much already said that there will be less AAA games for the PS4 in the future due to high development costs. The PS2 days are long gone my friend time to get over it and move on.
Yeah keep believing that, for your information games like BF, COD, and Destiny play better on PS4. That X1 inferior machine can't even do 1080p. Why choose an inferior product that plays games in 720p. PS4 has the best exclusives uncharted 4, no mans land, Driveclub, the order 1866, Everquest next, Planetside 2, etc........ Let's see if. Halo can be a great game without Bungie? All you have is Halo.
Xbox One even with the price drop is still not worth it.
psxextreme, come on. ¬_¬
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