Uncharted 4 Dev Hopes XOne To Sell Well After Kinectless Bundle Announcement, "Competition Is Good"

Microsoft's Xbox One is expected to perform well especially after the announcement of Kinectless Xbox One bundle for a price of US Dollar 399 i.e the same price as that of Playstation 4. A similar view was put forward by none other that few talented developers/coders at Naughty Dog, developer behind upcoming Playstation 4 exclusive title, "Uncharted 4: A Thief's End".

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XiNarutoUzumaki1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Fanboys don't understand that fact.

Off Topic: What's taking you so long Sasuke? Come already with my dad and the hokages Dammit! Let the talking for later!

mikeslemonade1581d ago

The sku has been a flop. You would think it would atleast match PS4 sales for atleast one week but according to Amazon it dropped to 40 after a few days.

bouzebbal1581d ago

i hope x1 takes off finally but i don't think kinectless x1 would help at all cause right now they have no unique selling argument they can use and puts obviously x1's power directly to the frontline when people are willing to get one.

Eonjay1581d ago


But to be honest, it is selling well. It just looks bad in comparison to the fastest selling console of all time; which happens to be the PS4

Sabo1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

It is crazy to see the bundle SKU for the X1 do better than the new $399 SKU. I honestly think removing the camera had the opposite effect they wanted. I personally liked their angle with having every system have a Kinect, they just needed more dev support... Removing Kinect was a bad move in hindsight. With the right dev support the Kinect could have skyrocketed X1 sales.

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jnemesh1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Do YOU understand that we will still have iOS, Android, Nintendo and PCs to give us "competition" once MS leaves? We did just fine without Microsoft in the game, and we will do just fine once they are gone.

thexmanone1581d ago

Hate to burst your bubble, But Sony will be gone first. Just saying

sobotz1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Why Microsoft? WHY the hell do you want them to leaves gaming industry? and IOS and Android??? you seriously categorised that as gaming device?

Both Micro, Sony, and hell, Nintendo are pushing each other to the better goods.

Remember when PS3 didn't have a party chat? or do you remember when XBL doesn't give you 2 free games/ month?

ALLWRONG1581d ago

All MS has to do is wait for Sony to file for bankruptcy.

Mystogan1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Lol, its more likely that Sony leaves before Microsoft does.

Do you have any idea how much money Microsoft has?

MS Net Income: 21.86 BILLION and increasing.

Sony Net income: 1.2 Billion and decreasing rapidly.

Who do you think will go first?

Sabo1581d ago

Sony is looking to profit after the next wave of losses.

As far as the gaming side, which everyone is neglecting to comment on. Sony is on a major roll and has all the momentum. Share holders want companies to keep popular and profitable divisions, regardless of the companies overall income.

medman1580d ago (Edited 1580d ago )

You have to laugh at idiots like mystogan who don't have a clue as to how actual business works. Sony's gaming division is making money, while the xbox division for Microsoft is not, hence the talk of spinning it off. Sony as a company is suffering losses, but their gaming division is strong. Microsoft as a company is doing well, but their gaming division is not, and hasn't been doing that great since the red ring fiasco cost them serious cash and in addition now they've had to finally admit kinect was a disaster that costs them dearly in the wallet. The decision makers and higher ups look at the bottom line, and when they see high expenditures and low profit margins, they don't care for it. They start thinking their investment money could be better spent elsewhere. And you know what happens in companies with struggling divisions? Those divisions get cut, chopped, sliced, and diced. So the only way Sony's gaming division will fold is if the entire company goes belly up. Microsoft on the other hand, could consider selling off xbox because they don't want to take more losses and decide what they spend on research, development, and production just isn't worth it anymore considering the decreasing margins. The one thing Microsoft had to count on was taking suckers money for xbox live gold and giving gamers little in return, but the pressure applied by ps4 sales this gen has caused them to reverse just about every policy they ever had intended for this gen. So now they remove the paywall, don't assume Microsoft is in a good place gaming wise. They are not.

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TheTwelve1581d ago

No, there is a differentiation to make:

Idiot fanboys just want the other consoles to die.

Wise fanboys just want their console to win.

In reference to the article, I wonder when Nintendo will be taken seriously again...

TheTwelve1581d ago

@sabo From what I'm seeing personally, people prefer the Kinect over the Kinect-less SKU. My friend who did it said he wanted the "entire experience"

Mikethejew1581d ago

fanboys are just that, little boys. IF any of these 3 companies took over we would see high prices, DRM, no used games, and awful hardware specs.

Aceman181581d ago

i plan on buying the camera less bundle later this year

Magicite1581d ago

Playstation, WiiU, PC, handhelds and tons of various tablets/mobiles/androids is enough of competition.
Prove me wrong, but everything was fabulous before MS stepped into console business.

mep691581d ago

Your name is all back to front.

CaptainObvious8781581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

I definitely want healthy competition, but I'm just not sure if I can consider ms HEALTHY competition. (key word there, healthy)

I understand businesses need to make money, but ms seems to go about that in a very pushy and sometimes morally questionable way.

Although with Phil recently put at the helm there seems to be good change happening. As long as that continues to happen and it's genuine I think it will help move the industry forward in a positive way, where all gamers win.

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NextLevel1581d ago

The Xbox One is not going to see a massive jump in sales, even with the Kinect unbundled.

When Titanfall was releasing everyone and I mean everyone from the media over hyping Titanfall, Microsoft bundling Titanfall & Forza for free, dropping the price and retailers creating their own bundles to get the Xbox One to sell and it didn't. It lost that NDP and everyone since. The general public just doesn't want it, people need to just accept that and move on.

nicksetzer11581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Thanks for the insight, I am guessing you work for a major financial statistics team right?

NextLevel1581d ago

Care to actually reply? What I said was true.

Xavy1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

We have a clever one over here NOT! u dont have to be smart to understand that X1 is not selling that good, let me help u out ----> NDP report.. right, RIGHT? or maybe u should use that thing God gave u called *BRAIN* or give it to someone els. =D

nicksetzer11581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

@nextlevel Since when is an mostly uninformed guess based on just a few months of sales, on brand new hardware, "true?"

you said: "The Xbox One is not going to see a massive jump in sales, even with the Kinect unbundled."

Also, not only will it be unbundled, but will also be arriving in 30+ more countries and is releases some must have games all this fall. again though we will take your guesses as "fact" just like you claim....

@xavy Actually, I agree intelligence is not required to come to the conclusion you did. You do, however, "need to be smart" to realize that XB1 is actually selling extremely well compared to sales for the first 6 months of almost all consoles in history. At least if we are to go by NPD numbers based on reality.

P.S @ xavy
-"you" is spelled like this.
-"else" is spelled like this
-You claim I need to look at the "NDP" report, yet it is acutally called the NPD.
-not selling that well
Yet you tell me I have no brain? let's be real.

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StealthPandemic1581d ago

Oh do you work for Microsoft?

NextLevel1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

No. But I know they sold less than 100,000 units last month and are getting outsold more than 4:1 worldwide by the Playstation. All while having "The most anticipated game ever", dropping the price, removing Kinect, remove paywalls, changing their policies, having "All the AAAs" and "The best 2014 line-up" and all while the PS4 has "no games"

Yeah, the general public could care less about the Xbox One, beginning in North America.


I was talking about monthly, which entirely true.

Dewitt1581d ago

So 5.1mil vs 8.2 mil is 4:1? preach it brother.

StealthPandemic1581d ago


You are such a nerd...actually you're not a nerd. You have no life. What exactly are you trying to achieve?

Darkstares1581d ago

Why are you telling everyone to move on when you yourself refuse to? I'm constantly seeing you in X1 related articles and if your not doing that your talking about the system. Just buy one and get it over with.

Anyways competition is good but that doesn't necessarily mean we need parity among sales. This has been a huge wake-up call for Microsoft and they have improved the system a lot since it was unveiled and focused on gaming for 2 E3 shows now. Good competition is also what led to Sony making the PS4 the way it is and at the cost it is.

christocolus1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

The guy has been in every xbox article today talking the same old crap. I think he is a troll or just secretly loves the xbox one.

Well said ND. Well said.

NextLevel1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

PS1- Considered one of the best generations, no competition.

PS2- Considered one of the best generations, no competition.

DS- Considered one of the best handhelds, no competition.

3DS- Considered one of the best handhelds, no competition.

So stay politically correct, I'll stay grounded in reality.

"What is reality to you though? Telling everyone not to bother with the X1 while you spend more time talking about it than anything else?"

I will not and have never told people not to buy the Xbox One. What you buy is your decision, like what I want to talk about. I'll probably buy an Xbox One eventually, but not anytime soon.

Darkstares1581d ago


All those platforms you listed did have competition, just not to the level of making a huge impact. They were still there as an alternative choice. The N64, Gamecube, Xbox, PSP and Vita were all created to try and compete.

"So stay politically correct, I'll stay grounded in reality."

What is reality to you though? Telling everyone not to bother with the X1 while you spend more time talking about it than anything else? Sounds counter-productive to me. If the system is of no threat to you you'd simply ignore it, does that not sound like what a rational personal would do?

y7jzdgy1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

Your post reeks of fanboy wishful thinking.

The PS4 is all hype and people like you just can't accept that. What does the PS4 have that truly sets it apart from the X1? Indie's or f2p games that can be played elsewhere? You can't even argue that PS+ is a better value than XBL anymore since MS has mirrored the PS+ model. Apps are no longer behind the pay-wall and the X1 will soon be released in just as many countries. Jeez, we're not even 10% into this gen and already haters are spouting doom and gloom!

The X1 has a great list of games including new IP's, a stellar online infrastructure and some pretty cool apps and features which are exclusive to the platform.

SoapShoes1581d ago

The same can be said about the X1.... What sets it apart now that it copied a lot of PS4 policies? PS4 also has a great list of games, apps, and a stellar online infrastructure exclusive to its platform.

Your post reeks of fanboy as much as his... All hype? LOL More like three generations of consoles with amazing games.

TekoIie1581d ago

So far 8th gen has all been hype and if both of you don't see that I think you're being willfully ignorant.

Dead Rising 3, Ryse, KZ: SF, Knack, Battlefield 4, Watch Dogs and Titanfall were all letdowns. Each had varying levels of hype and still did not live up to what was expected.

Just thought I'd mention that I think both of you (based on comment histories) are fanboys.

sic_chops1580d ago

@y7 stop calling it the xbox one. It is now just a PS 3.5 since it's been mirroring the ps4... Just weaker.

Eejanaika1581d ago

With an unbundled kinnect xboxone will sell better.
Not sure why you got so many disagrees for that.
since it is good and compitition improoves the market.

Clarence1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

I agree.

June 9-14 vgchartz has the Xbone outselling the PS4 in NA by a 1000, and will know vgchartz underrated tracks PS numbers.

CaptainObvious8781581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

I do hope to see a healthy bump in sales for the new SKU for ms. They've been very busy trying to win back the affection of the core gaming community and I think they deserve it, but I'm just not sure that's going to happen.

The Titanfall bundle was a great deal. It was only $50 more than the stand alone PS4, and it came with a hugely anticipated FPS and kinect. It also had a HUGE marketing campaign behind it. Even with all that the PS4 still beat it in the monthly NPD report.

I just don't see how a bundle that loses kinect, an AAA game and the huge marketing campaign is going to sell more just because it's $50 cheaper.

From where I stand, the Titanfall bundle is way more appealing than the kinectess SKU. That's just me though. We'll know what kind of impact it had in the next NDP report.

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corvusmd1581d ago

Well said, competition is key

Why o why1581d ago

Competition can be key....fixed

You dont need competition to produce the goods.

brokenbracket1581d ago

LOL, there is no competition. The PS4 is a far superior machine than the Xbox One, if you're a gamer, you already know this. Wish people would stop pretending that there's a competition. PS4 copies of Uncharted 4 are gonna fly out the window while the Xbone copies sit on shelves and collect dust.

Dewitt1581d ago

I didn't know xbox was getting Uncharted?

brokenbracket1578d ago

Obviously I misread the article's title and didn't bother to read the actual article.

Mikethejew1581d ago

yes and how much money will you get from sony at the end of this little boy?

What? They won't share their profits with you? But you're a fanboy, fighting the good fight!

Go to summer school little boy.

brokenbracket1578d ago

Yeah, I'm 27 and have a full time job, my own house, and car. I'm not a fanboy, I've experienced having an Xbox 360 and will never succumb to Microsoft's B.S. ever again.

ScareFactor1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )


You are not a true gamer and to be honest are one of the many cancer's to the community.

What is so "inferior" about the Xbox One?
The PS4 runs games 1080p and the X1 runs them at 900p? both systems are basically the same. I don't care what anyone says there is no difference in game between 720p and 1080p.

Sine you say its inferior let's take a few things into account:

- Xbox Live is the better service (suitability wise)and adding good games with gold they could catch up to PSN in that regard
- Exclusives (the big hits)
Xbox One - Halo MC, Halo 5, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Scale Bound, Project Spark (also on PC), Quantum Break, Gears of War, Crack Down, Phantum Dust, Fable Legends, new Raiden game, and Ori and the blind forest, Grave (also on PC i believe)

PS4 - The Order 1886, Uncharted, GG new IP (I am very excited for), Drive Club, Blood Borne, The Last of Us, Everybody's Gone to Rapture, Let it Die, Shadow of the Beast, Without Memory

Now let's do the one's that are already out:

X1 - Ryse Son of Rome, Titanfall (PC as well), Dead Rising 3 (now on PC), Forza 5, Crimson Dragon, Halo Spartan Assault, Killer Instinct, Kinect Sports Rivals, Fighter Within (god awful), Max: the curse of Brotherhood, Powerstar Golf,

PS4 - Resogun, Killzone, Infamous, Rime, Knack, Dead Nation (played on my 360), Basement Crawl

What me to go on? Or do I not have to because I proved me point already.....

The PS4 is a good machine don't get me wrong, but it isn't loads better than the Xbox One, like everyone wants to believe. The Xbox One will keep up with the PS4 in exclusive graphics and games. The PS4 exclusives might look a little better but that isn't a huge deal.

I love all my consoles : 3ds, Wii U, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 and X1. I like many other's are true gamers. I don't harp on power and graphics because if I wanted that I would get rid of all my console's and get a $3,00+ PC, and abandon all my friend's and games I love to play.

Also, the Xbox One is selling well just so you know

uth111581d ago

You missed a load of PS4 games in your lists

IAM1581d ago

"The Xbox will keep up with PS4 in exclusive graphics" LMAO I just spit juice on my Galaxy.

MegaDan1581d ago

You lost me at "the xbone will keep up with the PS4 in exclusives and graphics" please sit your delusional a** down.

SoulSercher6201581d ago

"I don't care what anyone says there is no difference in game between 720p and 1080p."

Then you need glasses if you don't think there's a difference.

"The Xbox One will keep up with the PS4 in exclusive graphics and games."

Yeah like the 360 did with PS3 right? Oh wait the 360 actually lost exclusives.

"The PS4 exclusives might look a little better but that isn't a huge deal."

A little better? Care to show me a X1 exclusive that looks anywhere near Uncharted 4's level? I sure haven't seen it.

Inception1581d ago

"Dead Nation (played on my 360)"

Last time i checked Dead Nation is published by Sony only for PS3, PS4, and Vita.

Are you sure we play the same game or that's a cue that actually you never play Dead Nation?

brokenbracket1578d ago

LOL, the Xbox One is selling well... last time I checked the PS4 was out selling the Xbox One 4:1. And there is a huge difference in 1080p and 720p, are you kidding me? That's like saying there's no difference in a DVD and a BluRay disc.

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y7jzdgy1581d ago (Edited 1581d ago )

I'm a gamer and I disagree. I'd ask you to explain why you think that the PS4 is far superior but judging from your post I think it would be some laughable petty bullshit and a waist of time reading.

brokenbracket1578d ago

I should've been a bit clearer in my statement, I understand. But let's be clear, it's really about the gamer and what he prefers, and I simply prefer Sony over Microsoft due to past experiences. A lot of the hardware is the same, but it's really about the software and what the two devices are meant for. I personally prefer a gaming console that is solely intended for gaming, rather than a family unit that originally tried to force things on you like the kinect for example. Here's a great argument that I believe to be the best explanation for my reasoning:

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