Microsoft: "We're Going to Try to Win That Core Gamer"

Head of Xbox Phil Spencer says early console adopters are "critical" to long-term success because they provide detailed and meaningful feedback.

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NextLevel2589d ago (Edited 2589d ago )

I love how Microsoft has now resorted to just trying to be like the Playstation 4 and how it portrayed itself to the consumers. It's so insincere, it's makes me sick. All of a sudden it's about the core gamer not the soccer moms, it about the Kinect being optional not forced, it's about consumer choice not treat them like criminals, it's about indies having control not blocking them out. Not to mention last gen it was about Xbox being the best place for multiplatform games and now resolution, framerate, AA and textures don't matter it's all about the game.

christocolus2589d ago (Edited 2589d ago )

Lol.Dude i swear i was about to post the exact same comment. Lmao.

Nxtlevel has been doing the usual rounds across evry xbox article today.

MS says “we are going to try to win the hardcore gamer” but nxtlevel still finds a way to read so much negativity into that simple statement even going as far as downplaying it.

lifeisgamesok2589d ago (Edited 2589d ago )

Lol right. Microsoft is doing great and are building momentum

Sony are not going to have as many triple A experiences that they've had in the past going by Shu's words

NextLevel2589d ago

Selling sub 100,000 units in a month on your homebase is not "gaining momentum" by any stretch of the imagination.

georgeenoob2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Keep up the commitment Microsoft.

Right now is by far the best time to be an X1 gamer with MS' amazing dedication to core gamers and staggering AAA line-up.

And from what I hear, their momentum isn't stopping anytime soon.


Their excessive commitment to the core gamer is the momentum he's talking about.

Eonjay2588d ago

Honestly, any videogame system is for the gamers. And while the Xbox One has seemingly recovered from Don Mattick's "vision", I can completely understand them making an effort to go after their core constituency; gamers. I wonder if there was tension between Phil and Don?

Prime1572588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

@Lifeisgamesok, "Sony are not going to have as many triple A experiences that they've had in the past going by Shu's words"

Uhm, out of context. Shu was asked that question about the games industry AS A WHOLE, not playstation.

But... most of us expect you to keep saying things like that when you can.

kreate2588d ago

Whatever the intention was or is, they seem to be on the right track.

If they do those nasty things again,lets all come to n4g and complain about it.

Pogmathoin2588d ago

Nextlevel, if you are the definition of core gamer, I will walk myself off a cliff...

ErcsYou2588d ago

Lol.. Every time I read a comment from Georgenoob it's feels like a Xbox Rep trying to sell me a Xbox.

Sharky2312588d ago


Shu was referring to the rest of this year. I really can't see sony not doing the same amount of AAA games. That's why they were able to catch up last gen.

threefootwang2588d ago

I'd love to know how much of this was Don Mattrick and how much of this was from the higher ups at MS?

Despite what people say, Phil Spencer is seriously turning things around so I'm curious as to who did all the original decision making lol.

TheGreatAndPowerful2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )


That was an intentional misquoted by 'The Red Dragons', Shu never said there would be less AAA games for the PS4 this year/gen, so stop spreading misinformation! Here's the full quote:

"We've been saying that the number of AAAs might be getting smaller because the cost of development for AAAs is getting higher," he said.

"But there are so many indie games and great games coming out almost every week or every other week. We're seeing it on PS4. I hope you're seeing it as well."

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Bundi2589d ago

Well that escalated quickly. Such anger towards a corporation for trying to sell its product.

NextLevel2589d ago

I just stated what happened.

Prime1572588d ago

To be fair, Bundi, PlayStation Network outage of 2011 still recieves anger, why shouldn't microsoft for their reveal in 2013?

However, I do agree with you, Bundi, people don't understand sales and marketing, and instead buy into it. That is the goal of any business and economy; to sell and profit.

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StealthPandemic2588d ago

It makes you sic because it's changing? Okay their, nerd.

OC_MurphysLaw2588d ago

@NextLevel... Take a few advil, maybe a little pepto bismol too and get some sleep. Should clear up that sick feeling.

I for one am happy to see the new direction and more gamer focused mentality coming from Xbox.


Yes now that they've seen sales plummet they now should be praised for what they should've been doing all along? No its BS that's why the hate keeps going because MS just can't be honest and genuine no matter what. They continue to try and play everyone and acting like they deserve a pat on the back for now realizing just how wrong they were doesn't change the facts.

OC_MurphysLaw2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

LOL ...dude you are waaaayyy too serious. It amazes me what short memories some on the commentors in this site have. Every console maker has at one point or another made errors in judgement and corrected coarse. @iviedicated you are delusional if you think Sony or Nintendo or even Valve for that fact have always been genuine and honest with you. Give it a rest with your ridiculous notion of righteousness you seemingly are bestowing upon some companies.

See my advice for @NextLevel. Take a couple of advil, gulp some pepto and get some sleep.

MasterCornholio2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Your always taking your hate to the next level.


Seriously its starting to get annoying. I'm s PS4 owner but I dont go around N4G taking dumps on the competitors product even though I dont like what Microsoft did with it. Be respectful of the civilized Xbox fans otherwise we will end up with more trolls like Truefan.

P.S Same goes for any fan base.

NextLevel2588d ago

If me quoting numbers, articles, statistics and things Microsoft have said is disrespectful, that's not my problem. I say how I perceive them, which what having a discussion on a gaming site about gaming is all about. IMO.

Ihatetrolls762588d ago

I agree 100% I'm first and formost an xbox fan and yet I still will play Nintendo and sony systems and if I see a game from ps4 that's great I'll make a positive comment not troll the article. I've had people ask what system they should get I always say it's a tough choice and they should try both to see what they want I'd hate to steer someone in the wrong direction or make a crap comment like ps4 sucks it's an indi console with no games like I see a lot trolls like Georgenoob or someone as pathetic as next level claiming xbox is not for core gamers

DLConspiracy2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

*shakes head* I am sure your comment will get more agrees though.

MRMagoo1232588d ago

*shakes head* some people still seem to think this is a sony run site

DLConspiracy2588d ago


Did I say that? Nope.

Flutterby2588d ago

You can easily see that was what you intended by your comment, go look at the guys comment he has agrees but more disagrees, but you knew magoo was right anyway. The last article I saw you in, you where trying to pretend to be devils advocate but the fanboy seeped out and you just looked bad after everyone proved you wrong.

DLConspiracy2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )


Yeah people ganging up on my opinion definitely makes me a fanboy. Would you like to me to provide you with a picture of both my consoles? Or perhaps provide all my consoles that I own?

I am not going to defend what I say. So please just leave me alone. You already made your opinion of me and I don't feel that's going to change. I wasn't rude to him. He was rude to me.

maniacmayhem2588d ago


And yet Next Level got a Well Said for posting the most insecure scared sony fanboy rant to date.

DLConspiracy2588d ago


Yeah I must have been delusional for thinking of any bias. Haha

Flutterby2588d ago


Yet donnieboy got a funny bubble for the massive sentence of "ok" so what is your point and trufan1 seems to be getting well said for every fanboy rant they do. You guys both have no leg to stand on trying to pretend this is a Sony fanboy site.

DLConspiracy2588d ago


Just out of curiosity why are you so offended? I like both console but I don't have to be sherlock to see the agrees sway. It has nothing to do with Sony or ms. Just how it goes.

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Magicite2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

MS are back to origins. Now they must fight really hard to win market over.

lelo2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )


In the words of Heath Ledger's "Joker": "Why so Serious?"

OwnageDC6502588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

Here is the plan to selling tons of consoles. Great games, adequate hardware, great marketing, don't ever BS or lie to gamers.

headblackman2588d ago

spoken like a scared sony fan. you know that by microsoft saying and doing all of the right things will turn the tides and put them in the lead. especially considering the AAA exclusive games drought on the ps4 and push for indies. instead of you playstation fans trying to tare down anything positive about the xbox one because your fears and insecurities, you should be using those writing and talk skills to make sony give you games and features and to stop shafting you around.

you focus is clearly targeted in the wrong direction. you anger should be with sony and not microsoft and it's fans. if you're a sony fan, stick with sony topics. if you're an xbox fan, stick with xbox topics. as a gamer who more so prefers the xbox products, you'll never see me in an worrying about playstation matters. if it's good news for sony: good for them. if it's bad news for sony: i hope they get it to gather. sames goes for microsoft.


demonddel2588d ago

Are you joking I really hope you are I didn't read pass you saying it makes you sick smgdh

LambOfLucifer792588d ago

The guy is doing whatever he can to sell consoles. Isn't that what he's supposed to do? Companies copy other companies. It's as simple as that. Did you think Sony was copying Nintendo with Playstation move? Of course they did. The goal is to make money

pompombrum2588d ago

Regardless if it looks insincere, providing Microsoft backs up their talk with a steady stream of quality exclusives, then it's going to be great for Xbox One owners. Microsoft needed that humbling by Sony tbh and if they can return to how they were in the initial years of the Xbox 360, there will be great times ahead for current and prospective X1 owners.

Ausbo2588d ago

Keep hating.

sick of the fan boys bitching at each others console sucesses

AngelicIceDiamond2588d ago

"I love how Microsoft has now resorted to just trying to be like the Playstation 4 and how it portrayed itself to the consumers."

Wrong MS is now resorting back to the early 360 days of gaming to portray itself with the consumer.

miyamoto2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

What did M$ lost them hardcore gamers?


Xbox One is built first and foremost for Microsoft's business partners in mind and not the gamers.

Its so very much obvious. In their reveal and E3 2013 presentation. Even a baby can see through their schemes.

Gamers are not stupid like people like Don Mattrick, Phil Spencer, Phil Harrison, Major Nelson, Aaron Greenberg would like to think.

And everything backfired to their faces!!!

You just don't jerk with Sensible & Well Informed Hardcore Gamers - the greatest fanbase of them all.

kawaii_Otome182588d ago

You know I just don't understand why people can't have clean or understanding minds of things. The fact that MS is trying really hard to change 4 the better and learning their mistake of bad choices before is really great and that they have listion to their fans of what they want and what they don't. What matters now is the games the consoles offers and just enjoy them. I have both PS4 and X1 yes I'm a gamer girl and both are amazing system that anybody would be happy to own as their next gen system.

maniacmayhem2588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

I find it hilarious that the sony fanboys complained up and down that MS should stop catering to the casuals and how they forgot about the core.

Now that MS has refocused and now have their attention back on bringing more games to their systems you sony fanboy(s)still want to complain.

mmc-0072588d ago

funny how xdrones say n4g is full of sony fanboys, yet you have more dislikes than likes..

jts18912588d ago

And Sony isn't? Amazing how they refused to say a word one way or another about DRM and Always Online until after Microsoft came out publicly with those policies and faced the backlash. If you think Sony is for 'consumers', your deluded and you've obviously forgotten what they did with the PS3.

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IAM2588d ago

Next Level you are so passionate about a console I don't believe you have. Every time I am on here, I see your post about Microsoft this & Microsoft that. Well if you are going to put all this time into it. You might as well get paid for it. Hit me up ... [email protected] ......

GuArDiiAn2588d ago

lol fanboy detected....anyone and their moms can see that this is GOOD for gaming...being a fanboy isnt good for gaming, you just trash and stink up the place. I own all three next gen consoles and they all have something i like.... ANYONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT BUSINESS CAN SEE THAT COMPETITION MAKES PEOPLE MAKE BETTER PRODUCTS!! everyone knows that Microsoft failed horribly in last years E3, get over it. They are fixing their mistakes, just like you fix your mistakes on a daily basis.... i done get you fanboys, if they have drm's and restrictions, its a bad thing, if they try and fix it, its also a bad thing? WOOOOW, i like your shouldnt even call yourself a gamer or even be allowed to have a console at all.

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XiSasukeUchiha2589d ago

Good job MS, straighting yourselves up after Sony's @$$whoop u into shape, I love competition between companies it's promote the best out of both companies.

HappyWithOneBubble2588d ago

@$$whoop u into shape lol you crack me up sometimes.

You don't get a WIN in my book so keep trying MS. I say this because I don't like how MS does business.

F4sterTh4nFTL2589d ago

Core gamer according to Microsoft = Soccer Moms and Pre-teen kids

thexmanone2588d ago

Sorry but if anything Sony is the one full of Pre-Teen kids.

I have PSN (you could look up my tag) and all I ever here are whiny little kids screaming when they get killed. It is by far way worse then live.

Just saying

mantis_toboggan_phd2588d ago

Cant agree more, I don't see any self respecting adult coming on here to troll or just slam something just cause they don't prefer it

XiYakushijuAkeginuXi2588d ago

Really? because I notice it more with Xbox Live. There are waaay too many young children on CoD

TheSaint2588d ago

Different experiences for different people, I see just as many children on both consoles these days, it used to be mostly Xbox but since the PS3 got cheaper they are on both.

mmc-0072588d ago (Edited 2588d ago )

lol PSN has always been quiet, sony didn't include a head set with the PS3 and nobody bothered buying but if you look at the xbox side like 85% of the gamers you encounter are 10 year old's. that why famous CoD player play on xbox, they know the whole community are little kid who can't play. it always makes me laugh when I see youtubers go 30-0 or look at the "how to annoy" series #only on xbox. you can't spin this around xbox already has the "little kids console" image

JeffGUNZ2588d ago

I think both have their share. It really is dependent on the game. COD attracts a large audience and a portion are younger kids, so you hear them more on that game for either platform then you would for a game such as Operation Flashpoint, where it's more adult like and tactical.

thexmanone2587d ago

I didn`t mean to start a war here. I'm a old-timer, I'm almost 50 now. So to me everyone is loud. I prefer live because, for me the people seem to be more mature then the ones on PSN.
People seem to be just to competitive for me on PSN. When I game I just want to kick back and relax and enjoy my game time.

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KinjoTakemura2589d ago


"Sony are not going to have as many triple A experiences that they've had in the past going by Shu's words"

Actually Shu was talking about the Playstation Vita when he made that statement, not the Playstation 4.