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Why PS Now’s Prices are the Nail in the Coffin for Sony

Although this was predicted way back in January, the fears have come to fruition. Sony’s PlayStation Now streaming service is in beta at the moment, and prices have just been announced: $5 to rent a game for 4 hours, $30 for 90 days. And that’s for a game from 2012! These prices are absurd, and this is the nail in the coffin for Sony, who are already having a pretty bad year. Here’s why.

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Majin-vegeta3594d ago (Edited 3594d ago )

I guess someone didnt get todays memo.*Coughtestpricescough*

colonel1793594d ago

They are test prices, but it's been reported that if you are in the BETA and want to try a game, you HAVE TO PAY those prices! That's ridiculous!

ginsunuva3593d ago

The BETA is not a game-beta where it's a semi-private testing zone.

It's the beta stage of release. The word beta has different uses in games and software services. Remember how Google Search said "Beta" under it for over a decade?

paidadvertiser3593d ago

Expect only 100 more articles like this, even after the final prices are set. Blog journalism is probably going to be the nail in the coffin for N4G.

maniacmayhem3594d ago

Sony is testing these prices out but as of right now that is not a good deal at all.

explicitbaron3594d ago

Prices will be high for a while until they get their subscriber base up and add more features and get more games on it.

BattleAxe3594d ago (Edited 3594d ago )

Then where's the incentive to sign up in the first place?

wsoutlaw873594d ago

to play older games you couldn't otherwise. Alot of people are veiwing these prices from the perspective of already owning a ps3 but that would be against the whole point of now. I also dont see in anyway how this could be a nail in the coffin. The vast majority of console buyers probably dont even know what the service is, so if it never takes off huge its not going to kill sony; thats just stupid.

Batnut003594d ago

Oh my god, would you people freakin' Relax? These prices are NOT FINAL!! If you have a problem with it, Sony is encouraging you to SPEAK UP!!

admiralvic3594d ago

You realize your statement is an oxymoron, right?

Sony wants people to speak up, thus articles like this are encouraged (it brings the issue to peoples attention and Sony can see just how displeased people are, similar to the DriveClub fiasco), yet you're discouraging them and telling people to relax...

F4sterTh4nFTL3594d ago (Edited 3594d ago )

Well said, people over here are too quick to defend Sony not realizing they are actually hurting themselves and also Sony by not telling Sony the truth about what would be more convenient for them and others like them.

Batnut003594d ago

You can't tell people to relax and have a calm discussion on why you hate this? I'm not discouraging anyone, but I've been seeing people freak the freak out all day and than we got this guy saying this is the final nail in Sony's coffin, which is ridiculous.

LeCreuset3594d ago (Edited 3594d ago )

@admiralvic

You realize to relax and to speak out are not mutually exclusive, and thus not an "oxymoron," right?

@FasterThanFTL

You must have Sony gamers mixed up with some other camp. They're the first ones to jump on Twitter and directly hit up the company president about issues ranging from the light on the DS4 controller to their distaste for policies that restrict used games. I certainly wouldn't classify as overly defensive someone encouraging people to speak up, while rightfully criticizing an article talking about death nails and presenting misleading information about "announced" prices.

wsoutlaw873594d ago (Edited 3594d ago )

you dont know what an oxymoron is. oxymoron /= contradiction.

LordMaim3593d ago

It's not an oxymoron. Batnut00 is saying that Sony is encouraging you to speak up, but not in some random forum where it won't change anything. Sony wants you to speak up TO THEM, on their official forums where they have many many threads dedicated to this subject. That way they actually receive your feedback rather than starting internet flame wars.

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incredibleMULK3594d ago (Edited 3594d ago )

Bone headed move after boneheaded move. Good job sony. Mouthfart! This isn't going to get u out of bankruptcy, or recover that $160 billion you squandered. It's sad when Xbox has more exclusives than you do.

Rip Sony

buried in the plot next to wiiu and psp go.

dragon823594d ago

I think someone needs to go back and count the exclusives for each system again. I bet Sony had less exclusives last gen too huh?

kenshiro1003594d ago (Edited 3594d ago )

Hey, little one bubble warrior. No one cares about your delusional rant. Just like any other troll, you don't own a PS4 so stop it.

ramiuk13594d ago

lol wouldn't be room in cemetary since the beremoth xbone and its power brick have taken all the space up

vergilxx33593d ago

You trust Sony too much as I did with borderlands 2 for vita they have claimed it will run 30 fps on vita it runs like shit with 15 fps and with more games being released on system and I see a shit although the prices are not final they will not change or maybe by -10% Max

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies19d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken19d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga19d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken19d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6419d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long19d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197219d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic19d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12519d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91319d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer19d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91318d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit18d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher19d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6918d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit18d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher19d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken19d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic19d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2319d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218319d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder19d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts19d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

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blackblades25d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken25d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades25d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii25d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit27d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos27d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9527d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia27d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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