DigitalFoundry test frame-rate of Uncharted 4: A Thief's End trailer that was showcased at E3 2014. The end result should not come as a surprise to any of you, "Solid 60 FPS" for the entire trailer.
anyone who doesn't understand the 30 vs 60 fps should watch this trailer its night and day i tell you http://www.naughtydog.com/s... youtube does not do this trailer any favors watch the link above
the most important impact should be on the MP, imagine that on 60FPS
no . isn't this a cutscene?
LMAOSMDH @ mrsonystalker in YET ANOTHER PS4 article. That guy really has no problem with openly showing people how salty PS games make him. Embarrassing. I wonder if you guys shouted "CGI CUTSCENE!" at Ryse, seeing as those were pre-rendered cutscenes? Probably not.
@mypsychoticsonystalker You WANT it to be a cut scene but unfortunately for you naughty dog already said it is real time in engine.
No, they said early on it was all in-engine. Like with the new Zelda this game is going to look just as gorgeous in motion as the trailer that was shown.
I can't believe they frame tested a trailer.
This isn't some super sampled footage either. It's captured on a PS4. It's from a stage in the game. If it's running at 60fps already and looking this good then Damn! That's mind blowing!
They should keep SP at 30fps for better visuals, then make MP 60fps at cost of some visuals.
No, Mr. mrpsychoticstalker, this is real in-game moment which your beloved EXBUCKS will NEVER be able to produce. Eat it!
Game would be much better if it ran 30 fps. Make the multiplayer 60 fps and the campaign 30 fps, so we can get better visuals .
@ginsunuva & AliTheSnake1: Why not get both? http://i.imgur.com/pGN0H4U....
@gin, this is the best looking game in the world, you really think it needs better visuals?
Poor psychoticstalker. : ( At least he was self aware enough to name himself appropriately. OT - Yowza! That is all.
ginsunuva: Why do people disagree with you? Imagine how much better Uncharted 4 would look with twice the amount of render time of a 30fps game? I'm sure by the time Uncharted 5 comes out, Naughty Dog will give up the 60fps dream and make an even better looking game. I have no idea why people need 60fps in a game like this anyway.
I'm probably going to get tons of disagrees for saying this, but i really don't think this game will be 1080p 60fps whilst looking like THAT^^^. I can't see how they can run those graphics, with that fidelity, at 1080p 60fps. I'd have a hard time believing it at 30fps, but doubling the framerate? I don't know....i want to believe it, but im sceptical. Other areas have to be compromised in order to hit 60fps, that's just the nature of the beast, but this looks like nothing has been compromised....hmmm. I dunno. I know it's ND, and if anyone can get the most out of a console, it's them, just look at what they did with the PS3...but i just can't believe that the PS4 could run a game with that graphical fidelity at 1080p 60fps based on it's performance of games so far and what i have played so far for myself. I really think that people shouldn't be taking their statement of "targeting 60fps" as confirmation of 60fps. I think it will be 30fps (and with this game, i would actually prefer they go with extra graphical fidelity at 30fps). If the game does indeed release at 1080p 60fps, and it looks like that ^^^, i will stream myself giving ND a formal apology, whilst wearing a dunce cap with 'I'm sorry for doubting you, ND' written on it.
BLASPHEMER!!!!, BURN INFIDEL. :) so as long as its looks as good as previous uncharted i really don't care. i enjoyed uncharted for its story and characters
If it was actual gameplay we would have seen a hub? I do realize they said it was in engine.
My guess is that if its 60FPS it will be a variable 60FPS where the game tends to maintain a solid 60FPS during calm cutscenes. Thats just my prediction. Regardless even if they managed a rock solid 30FPS i dont think anyone would be disappointed especially with the level of detail this game has.
" I can't see how they can run those graphics, with that fidelity, at 1080p 60fps." Yeah neither do I (I don't get why you're getting disagreed with here). If anything, that's just a testament to just how amazing the game looks. If the game can maintain that kind of visual fidelity, the best of its kind, at 1080p 60fps, then something's amiss. Its just too good to run at that res unless the actual in-game visuals (not just in-engine stuff optimised for cut-scenes) are not as great as that. "If the game does indeed release at 1080p 60fps, and it looks like that ^^^, i will stream myself giving ND a formal apology, whilst wearing a dunce cap with 'I'm sorry for doubting you, ND' written on it." Lol whilst I wouldn't apologise to ND, I will frankly be shocked (and in a very good way). Hey, if anyone can do it, Naughty Dog can. Heck, its about time we got PROPER next-gen visuals. I'm decidedly underwhelmed with what we've seen so far with the current so-called next-gen games.
Kudos for having an honest opinion, unfortunately though, some n4g dwellers don't take well to open criticism. Nature of the beast I guess. Gateway MT6706 2008
"If the game does indeed release at 1080p 60fps, and it looks like that ^^^, i will stream myself giving ND a formal apology, whilst wearing a dunce cap with 'I'm sorry for doubting you, ND' written on it." I will try to remember that and will remind it to you if it happen.
At Lukas: I am sorry to disappoint you even more: http://i.imgur.com/pGN0H4U.... You betetr prepare a BIGGER cap and something else too.
Well so far the only thing released on PS is bad ports and Infamous. We haven't really seen what it can do. Am I wrong?
@plasticaman It's not the look of the game im doubting, it's the look of the game at 60fps. They probably could make it look better than that trailer if it was 30fps, but at 60fps? I just don't see how it's possible given the hardware.
Well think about it like you said it is naughty dog but the point infamous is 1080p and above 30 fps most time hitting over 45 fps. The graphical capabilities are pretty high for that game and its open world. Uncharted has never been an open world type of game. Giving them more resources to maintain 60fps. If naughty dog says they can do it then there is no reason not to trust them
@ Japonicus, pessimism never make the world get any better. If the devs are confident they can do it and even get better graphics, why stay in your corner throwing negative thoughts and unestablished fake suppositions here as if it was general truth. Chill out (if you are not a scret troll, like many in this article).
@plasticaman You are the epitome of what's wrong with this site. No one can give their opinion any more without being labelled as something, in this case im apparently a troll and a pessimist.....dude, im one of the biggest pro-Sony guys on this entire website, have you not seen me post regularly for the past year almost? I've been called many things on this site, but never have i been accused of trolling a Sony article, lmao. I'm not "throwing around negative thoughts" either, and i definitely don't speak as if what i say is general truth, im giving an opinion that the majority don't share, as is my right. Maybe YOU should grow up and learn to accept other peoples opinions. @ado Damn, that's a good point you bring up about Infamous. The fact it looks like that, whilst being 1080p...above 30fps...and open world makes me much more optimistic about UC4 now. Great point. Thanks for the MATURE discussion (unlike others).
Last of us was using just 512mb of ram. This might be what games look like when you throw another 7.5gb at it.
Why so many disagrees? All I said was the only thing game that take advatage of the PS4s power is Infamous. And maybe Killzone but that was a console release title
lol a CGI trailer runs at 60fps? OH WOWZ SONY! XD
You do realize that by mirroring the many people that call it CGI, you are just joining a 'compliments to ND club', right? It's been confirmed already that it's not CGI. So you carry on giving those compliments to ND! :D @Diaglamarine So true! I bet half o these naysayers don't even know that it's Corrine Yu that has debunked their claims, and i bet most of them don't even know who she is and what she worked on in the past. *Cough* she's one of the main reasons why Halo 4 looked that good whilst running on a 360 *cough*
lmao how many times does naughty Dog have to say it isn't CGI smfh.
http://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0 Even after ND has stated it was in engine. http://www.playstationgang....
What's hilarious is the person who confirmed this to be in engine is the same person behind Halo 4 looking as good as it did. Bet you if she was talking about Halo, you'd wouldn't be crying BS like the asshurt little girl you are.
That wasn't CGI, it was in-engine footage. -.- Basic research, people! Do it, the internet is literally at your fingertips!
Naughty Dog already had some of the best programmers in the world before Corrinne Yu came on. She's just the cherry on top.
@Killzone619 MisterX agree with you at least. He thinks this is a Sony lie and Naughty Dog's brainwashing. Let's see what MisterX said : Quote from his blog - Misterx: @naughty dog confirmed UC4 trailer is real time on PS4. But they refused to confirm it is rendering in real time and not just playing a cutscene video file in real time. So double meaning is still possible. And i don't believe 1.8Tf console could render this in-game real-time. In-game GFX evolve slowly and step-by-step. This trailer is 3 steps to what we see already this gen. Look even Witcher 3 have great environments but in-game characters are more lilke Witcher 2.5. Sony has no other options other than back to lie and smoke and mirror trics before DX12 will arrive next year. More funny Corinne Yu blocked my question several times. It could not be seem from their feed. Only from mine. http://imgur.com/FAf2oZL He is pretty pathetic! He often abuses Sony's 1st party developers trough Twitter. Before Corinne, MisterX abused Andrea Pessino ( RAD, The Order ). What a moron!
@imt You know, the nice thing about the position of ND is that not only did they probably get some extra help and attention from Sony, this will be their /second? title on the system. By working with TLoU on PS4 hardware, they were able to essentially do a "dry run" on the hardware with completed assets, artwork, gameplay...everything and just focus on learning the pipeline. Se essentially they are on a second generation release schedule, before many developers have finished their first. On top of all that, this is one of the most talented dev teams today, so they've got a lot going for them =)
@imt - "MisterX agree with you at least." That pretty much says it all.
@Mr P I can smell the jealously fumes radiating from your salty pits.
UC4 + 60 FPS = http://images.sodahead.com/...
I TELL YOU!!! http://www.quickmeme.com/im...
YouTube unfortunately only renders 30FPS for all videos. The 60 FPS definitely helps, though I want to see full on gameplay with action sequences, although I highly trust N.D.
Tis true. It baffles me when people put 60fps comparisons on YT knowing D*** well it displays at 30fps. Or do they just not know or care. ... i can't tell. Gateway MT6706 2008
The trailer is pretty and everything but....what happens in this trailer worth framerate testing? It's just an in-engine animation of Drake standing up and walking, not a shoot out.
Right. Somehow ppl confuse "in engine" as being actual game play. Even if you're a SONY supporter, you can't speak common sense or you will be labeled a troll.
Too bad ND didn't show it running on an actual PS4...
Uh, what? Yes they did show it on an actual PS4.
It was captured running on a ps4 , the video even had a message saying footage captured running on ps4. Derpity derp.
This entire trailer, which by the way looks so good, is running at solid 60fps pretty amazing, that's what I say because do you see real time+ 60fps together often!
It's a cutscene,
No, it's not! Does it hurt not embracing the Truth?
I know that's how the game looks. But so how can they tell if it's solid 60 without any action Edit: you right it's not a cutscene , it's a trailer
It may be in-engine, but it's definitely a cutscene. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w... The player doesn't control it, hence, it's a cutscene. Now that doesn't take anything away from the graphical or technological achievement, but the simple fact is that it is what it is.
@Creatchee It' still using PS4's resources, not pre-rendered. Do you know what that means? it means the graphics would look even better in-game
@creatchee You must not know what "real time" or "in-engine" means. Hold on. i'll be right back with some band-aids for that butthurt.
@creatchee ND said there won't be any pre-rendered in-engine cutscenes anymore, which means that since everything is being rendered in realtime, that means they can go from cutscene to gameplay on the fly like The Order is doing for all their cutscene transitions. And since what we saw is running in realtime, that means that that is the fidelity in which Uncharted will be during gameplay as well.
Oh what the heck is everyone getting up in arms about? Would you all stop freaking out over whether or not it's a cutscene? Who cares! Either way it's in-engine. We KNOW for a fact that the game is going to look just as good if not better in gameplay. Sheesh guys, this is such a dumb thing to be arguing over.
@Ramdonmass Tell That to the insecure Xbox trolls
@0P-Tigrex And you must not know what gameplay means. Let me help you out. There's this thing called a controller. If you press a button on that controller and something happens on your TV that resembles movement or any other action that might constitute playing a game, VOILA - that is gameplay. The Uncharted 4 trailer did not feature that. It was a cutscene. Also, what are you even going on about butthurt? I'll be buying Uncharted 4 day one. Just like I did for 2 and 3 (didn't have a PS3 when the first one came out). But just because I am excited to play a game does not mean that I confuse gameplay and cutscenes - in-engine or otherwise.
@Creatchee I understand you must have doubts of the actual gameplay resembling the same visual fidelity as this "cutscene". Why can't it resemble the scale of fidelity shown here in gameplay? When something is in "real-time".. that to me means there is NO cutscene involved.. Take Halo 3 forge, when you playback a match.. you can move the camera close into your character, all is running in engine and in real time, then when you press "play", the people on screen move..without the use of a controller. But it's still gameplay, right? ..You do know a character CAN move IN GAME without the use of a controller...They've been doing it for the past decade in several games.
It is technically a cutscene people... the game will still look like that in real time tho
@OP-Tigrex "When something is in "real-time".. that to me means there is NO cutscene involved.." This is 100% incorrect. I'm not going to do your research for you, save a hint: google "realtime cutscenes" and see for yourself. It will also show you the difference between realtime and pre-rendered cutscenes so you will know the difference in the future (side note - if there is a difference, then they both exist). I have zero doubt that the game will look amazing. I've gone on record many times stating that Naughty Dog is the best developers today, both in quality of product and ability to push hardware. And I still believe that to this day. My problem is that people here are so blinded by their preconceived notions of what people say. By DEFINITION, the clip from the trailer was a cutscene. You can disagree with that fact until the cows come home, but that does not mean that you will be any less wrong. And even so, instead of realizing that I am not being anti-Sony and merely correcting you and others who are simply under the wrong impression of what gameplay and cutscenes are, you play the "butthurt" card. It's immature, inaccurate, and does nothing to enhance your credibility or people's perception of your intellect. So to conclude, know what you are talking about and don't insult other people - especially if you haven't fulfilled the knowing what you are talking about part. Edit: @JackVagina - finally, somebody who gets it.
It's an in-engine cutscene. Why do people find game terminology so difficult?
Its ND full stop
Goosebumbs all over again
Makes Ryse look a 360 launch game amazing.
It makes EVERY game we've seen so far for either next-gen console look like a 360 launch game.