Destiny PS4 alpha extended for "dangerous experiments"

Bungie has extended Destiny's alpha testing period on PlayStation 4 to introduce some "dangerous" new experiments.

[The_Sneauxman]

This kind of sucks for me because I dismantled all of my 8> gear for a cash grab :(

[Stapleface]

What was the point of that? There is nothing to buy with that cash.. The things that could be bought that would be better than your level 8 gear is over level 8 and can't be used anyway..

[3-4-5]

Maybe they never played Borderlands before though.

[ICANPLAYGAMES2]

At that Cryptographer or whatever you can buy bunches of the items whether they are over-leveled to increase the shop rank, then he deciphers better stuff (some pretty good ones, and whatever you can't use dismantle for money and keep trying).

[Soldierone]

Should have went to the tower to store it. Bungie keeps hinting that storage will carry over to the game, or at least the beta.

[Mikelarry]

woohoooo i really enjoyed the alpha

[Crazyglues]

Me too, couldn't get my friend that I play with all the time in / which really sucks... Especially because the alpha was so awesome..

I tired and tried to find an extra key for him, but no luck..

-And now that it's been extended it's really going to burn- Wish I could have got one more key*

The game is so awesome, I decided to get this over BF Hardline.. (This game is just too awesome) Loving it.

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[Mikelarry]

i have had to go it solo and make new friends on there as my friends are only interested in COD and although i will get cod i think i will get more enjoyment from this due to the variety of things to do in this game.

[nveenio]

They sent me two keys. Well, one from Bungie, and one from Amazon. So I gave a key to my cousin. But he was never online with me. :( I did get to play with a couple strangers, though, and it was pretty fun. I enjoy the exploration much more, however.

[Mr-Dude]

You can share your account with him... I do this with my best friend. We buy games together and share it. It isn't illegal. It is the same as on ps3

[AAWELLS09]

He can easily get one by preordering on Amazon. When you preorder on Amazon you don't have to put any money down until the game releases and can cancel at any time. So anytime you hear of beta access with a preorder always immediately preoder on amazon and you'll get a code at some point and if you decide you don't like the game then just cancel after you've received the code. i do it all the time and always get in betas.

[Utalkin2me]

@Mr-Dude

It is illegal and the only reason it is done, is for people that have multiple consoles. Not So you can share your account and rob the developers of money.

[GameSpawn]

"It is illegal and the only reason it is done, is for people that have multiple consoles."

Yup. Which is also why Sony reduced the number of consoles down to 2 from 5. I think the PS3 may still be 4 or 5, but I believe the Vita and PS4 are only 2 active per account (the PS4 can only have ONE primary system too; it's locked in upon activation on the primary account holder).

[artsaber]

@ Crazyglues i got an extra key if you want it

[MonChiChi]

Nice!

[spence52490]

Did anyone else feel a little underpowered when going against the higher level players in PvP? At around 5-6 my team was getting smacked by level 7+ people. I'm thinking it was due to their higher weapon damage and armor rating. Now I'm not complaining and calling for balances but I'm just wondering if anyone else experienced that. I wonder if the full game will incorporate some level specific matchmaking.

[TheFutureIsBlue]

I'm not sure since I was lvl 8 when I went in to pvp to make sure that did not happen, lol. Like you said, I'm sure they will make some kind of lvl requirement when it comes to matchmaking. Btw it was fun!

[Ashunderfire86]

On the first try, because those players look like they have overshield or something? Then my team start to win most of the team now.

[amnalehu]

Yup! I felt the same way. I felt like I was fighting with a water gun. I got back in late last night and it was much better. This game is probably the most fun I've ever had playing a shooter. What a gift to be getting more time. I'm betting we will be playing against the devs in PVP today.

[TheFallenAngel]

For sure, I unloaded a full clip on the enemies and they would kill me with a few shots. This is bad specially for noobs. I hate when games do that.

[Jdoki]

Hopefully the final release matchmaking is better. I'm hopeful these level mismatches are simply because the alpha has a fairly limited population.

I have a similar gripe about TitanFall. Where I'll often find myself in a team of other low level players facing far more experienced people. It's ridiculous and completely unbalanced.

[spence52490]

As much as I don't think Destiny is mmo, I wonder if it will stick to the traditional mmo idea of PvP. That's pretty much if you aren't geared out, don't try PvP. I really hope it doesn't and they just introduce better matchmaking.

[Jdoki]

@spence

In another Destiny news story, someone posted that Bungie have stated that PvP will be skill based, not gear based.

But I've also read that gear used in the game will 'tell tales of the players deeds', so depending on which modes you focus on your gear will reflect that in some way - I assume by the collection of the different 'currencies' you can see on the Bounty board in the Alpha.

Ideally matchmaking will take in to account player skill, and gear levels to create balanced matches.

I find MMORPG PvP hugely frustrating, as people just tend to build 'I win' gear and skill has little to do with it. That sort of metagame is annoying.

[TheFallenAngel]

Yea but in titanfall I didn't unload a whole clip just to get someone's health half way and then be killed with a few shots.

[thejigisup]

Isn't that how life is though? You start low level, inexperienced , and surrounded by experienced people. You suck it up, learn and get better.

@thefallenangel , were you aiming properly ? Thats a big part of it, less complaining , more gaming..

[patsrule316]

According to an interview, the damage and health will be equalized in PVP:

“Our Crucible, moreover, is about skill,” Sussman said. “You can play a level 4 player with a level 20, and the Level 4 player can dominate because we equalise the player’s health and damage. All the perks and abilities you’ve unlocked are still there, but it really comes down to skill. That makes for a really cool experience.”

[henr0s]

Honestly I'm going to say you guys just need to get better. When I jumped into crucible around level 4 I didn't have that much trouble, went pretty average first couple of games getting used to it, but then it was fine. You get wiped if someone just hits you all headshots, or gets a good grenade/shotgun combo. Just avoid these and you're fine, just play better and it doesn't really matter if they're higher level imo, hasn't affected me.

[spence52490]

That's usually the case. Most of us are used to CoD and BF4 so the mechanics of slower based combat have to be adjusted to play a halo styled game. After I adjusted my sensitivity and turned my vibration off (a great tip for those of you who play shooters) I started to do better. I agree with your statement. Skill is a large percentage of it.

[xActionBasturdx]

Thats what i was getting ready to say...the pvp feels alot like halo 3 if you ask me

[VerminSC]

The pvp being balanced was a deciding factor for me getting this game.
THE PVP IS BALANCED

If you look under the description on the crucible it says something like "player level disabled"
It makes all of our guns and armor the same. I have tested the damage with my starting weapons compared to my best weapons, they are the same :)

[RamboRabbi]

Kinda sounds like borderlands level balancing. I remember joining a level 40 game when I was level 20 and the damage scaling was such that 1 hit would effectively kill you.

[RyanShutup]

nah PvP levels and weapon upgrades are all disabled. It's just like any other multiplayer game in that regard... no balancing issues at all that I could see.

[DJ]

I had the same issue, getting instant-killed by level 7 and 8 players. I would hit them 4 or 5 times and still get knocked down.

What seemed to help was sticking together in groups. But then you go up against a group of level 7+ players and then it's all over.

Plus people can jump/glide so high that it's hard to constantly look up at the sky, just in case someone's up there.

[HammadTheBeast]

Yes it does do that. The point is because it's an MMO there needs to be a discrepancy between the different levels and items, so that there's a goal. Hopefully with more players it won't be an issue, and if you have the skill, it is possible to beat a higher level guy.

[Shadonic]

For me yes and no, it was mostly just mistakes made in gameplay that were on me other times it was because of alpha server problems and others it was because I chose my warlock looking good over him playing good.

[ICANPLAYGAMES2]

You know in all the playing I've done on there, I haven't even tried the pvp Crucible area, had plenty of fun with the other stuff (maxing out weapons, etc.). Also, after completing the Strike mission in the Devils Lair found my way back to the Walker tank in that area, and solo'd it twice (both times I ran out of ammo and had to rely on grenades and special attack to finish it off, should of planned ahead and bought those ammo refills).

[Ashunderfire86]

Hope they fix the problem where players get kick out of servers! I got kick out even playing solo? Where are all the players in the tower?

[GarrusVakarian]

" Where are all the players in the tower?"

Every time i visit the tower it's full of players. Although, there's has been a few instances of the free-roam map being pretty empty.

On topic: Yay! More time. Awesome, im getting back on it right now. Enjoying everything about this game. The fact it has a dedicated competitive MP makes it even better.

[Neonridr]

lol, I remember playing last night and along came the Walker Drop public event. I was the only one in the area... so I casually did a quickstep out of the zone ;)

[Jdoki]

How many players are you seeing Lukas?

In my experience in the Tower I see between zero and a dozen or so.

In the open map I see very few other players. Maybe three per session max.

@neonridr.
I turned up at one of these events, and it was me and one other guy... Was brutal, but fun

[Mr-Dude]

True... most of the time I am alone in the tower:-(

[Shadonic]

Players not appearing in the towers is a matchmaking bug, Good thing they had an alpha to test this out.

[Ashunderfire86]

Funny how someone disagree with me when it is the truth lol! There is no player in the tower! I only see like 2 people then I get kick out of the server?

[Gh05t]

Looks like a great time to be a PS4 owner.

[MaxKruger]

How about letting Xbox One/360 players have a go at the Alpha for a dangerous experiment? I'm tired of this console-exclusive BS.

[king_ps4]

No, stop crying about it.

[Hold_It]

How about no. All Microsoft does is ruin next-gen gaming by parity and has nothing but "console-exclusive" dlc, so now when you don't get to have it your way on Xbox you throw a hissy fit. Grow up kid.

[Gh05t]

the irony of him saying hey lets stop the exclusivity on both sides and you say NO but he is being the childish one.

If the tables were turned like they have been in the past dont you think people on the other side were saying the same thing (Hint: They were). Now the tables have turned and rather than understand its, stick in the eye, malice, snotty attitude.

As long as you get yours right? When its your favorite brand that does it its okay but when its the other brand its not? How about some consistency.

[MaxKruger]

Hey, thanks for making total assumptions about me. Real mature of you. Why don't you put your fanboyism aside for a second and realize that console-exclusive/timed DLC is practiced by both Sony and MS? I heard a LOT of "first on ___" and "DLC first on ___" in both conferences at E3. In the end it's gamers who lose.

You could try taking your own advice - grow up. See past your brand of choice and understand why this is bad.

[choujij]

That must be so frustrating...

[Si-Fly]

Showing off a 720p Xbox One version wouldn't be the best way for them to build up hype, I think that's why they did PS4 first.

[LAWSON72]

Destiny is 1080p on Xbone

[lobocob]

It was pretty obvious at last years e3 Sony/ActiBungie had a pretty close business relationship for this title. It's your fault for not getting a ps4

[mt]

I just got PS4 for my brothers, sadly I don't own the code to play this game.

[Shadonic]

stalk reddit my friend.

[HacSawJimThugin]

I hate the sounds of the guns. I really hope do something about it. The game looks fun though can't wait to give the beta a shot.

[IcarusOne]

What I find frustrating is that when I switch between special weapons - going from sniper to shotgun, for example - I lose all my special ammo. Does this happen to anyone else?

[Lumbo]

yes, this is by design. It encourages a choice at the begin of the mission making it kind of a role you play.

Considering the huge amount of ammo drops i see this as a minor "problem". Though i do prefer the snipers over the short-range shotguns anyways. For close combat i prefer to bash in the enemy's face with my fist :p

[nominal266]

Still never got my alpha key from the "PlayStation E3 Experience" code. >=( maybe now please?!

[choujij]

I would love some opinions from those who have been playing it. What other game does the gameplay/controls feel closest to?

[Fiestabrian]

Halo

[JGaLaXY815]

a little tighter Halo, grenade throwing feels a little better than halo

[Arkardo]

Totally halo, fun exploration not even close to Borderlands Boredom, to people who is not familiar with FPS could be kinda hard which is awesome, I feel this game keeps so much hidden potential that it's gonna blow gamers minds.

[moomoo319]

Dude if the beta is only a snippet of the game i cant image how huge and expansive and filled with content this game will be. So fun, so much weapons and armor, its just sick.

[moomoo319]

and its not halo exactly but if feels distinctly Bungie, like the game they've always wanted to make.

[Shadonic]

Halo with a bit of mass effect for the specials and the exploration feels like a much more vivid and content filled borderlands.

[Unknown_Soldier]

Damn...I'll be at work all day...

[TiberusX87]

I'd best describe it as Borderlands meets Halo, with a dash of Mass Effect.

[GW212]

I think you're about right. I would say more than a dash of Mass Effect though. Gun play feels very similar to ME in my opinion.

[Omar91]

How much extra time do we have? I deleted the alpha yesterday night :(

[moomoo319]

after playing destiny the BF harldine beta is so beyond bad. Seems much worse than BF4 to me.

[GamersHeaven]

Sorry I hit the disagree by accident I agree Hardline beta was trash I erased it after finishing my first match.

[moomoo319]

its just so watered down and feels purposeless. 1080p/60fps? the graphics are awful and the loading screen buildings look like cardboard cutouts. Not only is it an expansion, its a shitty one at that.

[lobocob]

I was sorta digging hardline and then I played destiny and thought "ea is going to charge 60 bucks for this thing?" It even made me reconsider my enjoyment of bf4.

[d0r1en0]

Nice! Downloading now via a friends game share. Have him my code thinking I'd miss out camping with the wife this weekend.

[Shadonic]

Does game sahre require the sharing of personal info, I'd gameshare with people if it didnt possibly

[d0r1en0]

Yes it does, & you need to make their account primary on your console. The way sony did it this time around seems as if it's to be used for personal friends & family. Which who is sharing with me. A buddy who I've known since MW2.

[DJ]

It's a fun game, just has some balancing issues in PvP. But i'm sure that'll get easier as I keep playing and level up my abilities.

[cyclindk]

Anyone know the deal with the areas where enemies have question marks above their heads and take almost no damage? Meant to be off-limits maybe?

??? like this, only option is to zip past them on foot or on bike

[kneon]

They are really high level enemies, I think at least level 20. Today I ran into a level 16 Anointed Ogre, that's the highest enemy level I've seen that was actually shown and not just ??

[Lumbo]

and at lvl 8 with the highest possible Attack value i managed to get(109) on weapons i did 0 damage to that ogre :(

[kneon]

Everything I aimed at it did exactly 1 point of damage. There were 4 or 5 of us trying to take it down but I never saw the yellow bar move at all.

I had to leave after about 20 minutes so I don't know if they ever succeeded.

[TheLastGuardian]

YES!!!

[pody]

I got a code but I can't redeem it unfortunately. It seems I'm too late to the party. It's a shame since I really wanted to try it out. That was a very short alpha.

[No_Limit]

Sounds interesting and I was hoping to get access to Alpha on my PS4 but no code. :(

Oh, well, waiting for my XB1 beta access in Jul.

[jjb1981]

You want a code? I have an extra one from amazon

[jjb1981]

Check your private messages

[No_Limit]

WOW...amazing, thanks bro. owe you big time!

Edit: Downloading the alpha now.

[LegitPunisher]

anybody got extra code??

[-Ghost]

Attended the E3 experience event and did not receive an alpha code unfortunately.

If anyone has an extra code, I would greatly appreciate it.

[Jeff257]

The Alpha is over now. It ended about 6 hours ago. next chance to play is during the beta and for that you have to pre-order it and then register the code you get at Bungie's website.

[-Ghost]

Ah, thanks. I pre-ordered from Amazon and got a code for the beta in July. Hopefully I receive one then.