Holic? "Movie like" (Inspired from MGS4)

This person makes a point. From the released MGS4 reviews. Many of the reviewers have downgraded the score, because of the cutscenes. But, isn't the game famous, because of the cutscenes? Read what this person wrote:

~WarTransformsUS~ thinks there should be a whole new genre. MGS4 expresses the new genre. Its a genre, when the game is detailed to have many cutscenes to make the game, "movie like". MGS1 and 2 could fit into this. Also, the new Bourne Game too, as there are also lots of cutscenes for this game. The GTA series could also fit into this, as there are many cutscenes also in those games. I dont think its fair complaint about the cutscenes, if the game is famous from exactly that.

I would call the new genre:
Holic
(Holick, is the way you say it.)

(Holl means Hollywood, and ic, means Epic)

If you want to see the original post, you may have to scroll all the way down the link.

[Angelitos]

I like the idea

[vegnadragon]

You know what, i like it and it makes sense.

[sonarus]

WTF. N4G needs to change. Appoint new mods to clean up mess like this appearing as news. This is the dumbest attempt for a news post i have seen in a long time.

People need to understand THIS IS NOT A FORUM. People who post these stories and people who approve clearly didn't read the N4G rules. I say ban them or take away their privileges.

Anyway that being said, dude makes a good point. GTA4 has cut scenes for every mission and the cut scenes look like crap. Its silly for reviewers to whine about cut scenes when GTA4 surfers the same thing. Most people just love to find faults in MGS4 and that is a simple case of finding unnecessary faults. Its all good though no love lost, i say bring on the 90min cut scenes, i am ready

[mattkelly1991]

Why mark down MGS4 for long cutscenes. Lol. Thats a selling point for me. I love the reward of seeing some snake action after sneaking past a part.

[darkshiz]

It's critics, they point the dumbest thing to mark it down for.

They don't like the cutscenes? I guess they never knew they can skip it.

[Bubble and Squeek]

It isn't the fact that there are cut scenes. But rather the shear length and quantity of them, and the way the game rudely takes control away from you as if it cannot trust you to do things properly. I have absolutely no problem with a game being marked down for this.

Call me old fashioned. But if I shell out 50 quid on a game, I want to play a ****ing game, not watch a movie ;-).

[CrazedFiend]

Cutscenes in MGS4 are 100% skippable Bubble.

But face it, 99.9% of the people who play Metal Gear in the first place, play it for the story, which is one of the most well thought out stories in entertainment history. The cutscenes are a bonus for these people. Why mark it down for that?

(note: "well thought out" doesn't necessarily mean greatest, as that steps into the rhelm of personal preference).

[Bubble and Squeek]

"Cutscenes in MGS4 are 100% skippable Bubble.

But face it, 99.9% of the people who play Metal Gear in the first place, play it for the story, which is one of the most well thought out stories in entertainment history. The cutscenes are a bonus for these people. Why mark it down for that?"

Game content is game content.

As such the review should accommodate it. If Konami knew critics (and by extention, a portion of the buying public) would be turned off, they should have put a rein on the cutscenes. If they want to maintain Kojima's 'artistic' vision, they should just swallow the slightly less glowing reviews and slightly lower sales.

Trying to have it both ways smacks of a petulent child having a tantrum when it doesn't get its own way.

I would also dispute the idea of the cutscenes being a "bonus." Bonuses are reguarly defined as something extra, not a necessary part of the form that has to be digested in order to understand the story.

[bioshock]

gr8....in this way nobodys gonna comnplain of cutscene which take alot of time to develop.....and the onces in mgs4 are from ingame engine awesome

[Euphrate]

Metal Gear Series are there for the cut-scenes. Those critics, have no idea of games.

[crimsonfox]

your comment.

"Metal Gear Series are there for the cut-scenes." that part

[Bubble and Squeek]

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[ErBarad]

Sounds like AlcoHolic :P

[Amsterdaam]

This is the most retarded thing ever posted on N4G. Why would I care what stupid words you make up for video games?

Personally, I prefer some cut scenes, but not at the length or frequency of the ones supposedly in MGS4. It sounds like MGS4: Final Fantasy XIIVIIMCXV.

[GMWPS3]

Either you like playing games with nice long cutscenes or not. Either you like the color blue or not. There is no right or wrong. For those that feel "they should be playing a game and not watching some cutscenes" then don't buy this, your choice! Freedom is a marvelous thing! There are many of us who appreciate the cutscenes from MGS and look forward to them breaking down the play.

Downgrading marks because of cutscenes is unprofessional. It's sad to see how many of these videogame websites really don't understand what they are doing. Too many games are given high scores because they expected them to be utter crap but they turned out okay so they get a 9. Now when a game comes out that has many mind blowing moments..they look for anything to peg it down a point or two.

We really need a complete overhaul of the videogame ranking system otherwise as it is, it is completely confusing. With a single scoring system we all see a game with a 10 to be better than a game with any score below but the reality is that many games scoring lower are better.

The problem is the end users too. Some of us like stealth shoot-em-ups, some like full on action, some like hardcore racing physics, some like arcade racing physics, some like cutscenes, etc. We need a scoring system to break up by genre. Doing this would seperate comparing MGS4 to GTA4 because as sand box games go maybe GTA4 is the best so far and in the stealth-action-movie game, MGS4 is the best.

[DaCandyman]

I noticed something in regaurds to this.

In MGS3 during a save. Para-Medic starts a conversation with Snake regaurding movies. She starts off telling Snake that soon (since this happens during the 1960's) you will be watching movies on on your TV from a recorded tape. Then (as a Kojima humor spot) she states that you will even be able to play the characters in the movie and interact with the enviornment.

That being said. What he said in this most makes plenty of sense. Cutscenes IMHO are welcomed in games like MGS4.

I think too many of us have gotten use to completing the single player games in 4 to 8 hours. Now-a-days it is all about dualing, who's better, reaching the top of the leaderboard rankings which most of us will never see. How many Boy Scout badges (BKA Achievements) and how fast can I get them.
For me I say bring on the 90 minute cutscene, the longer it stays loaded in my PS3's drive the better I feel about my purchase and getting my moneys worth.

[OLD MAN]

growth in ps3 sales than anticipated with this game, i smell a serious comeback.

[Brock Danger]

I've played all of the metal gears and sure enjoyed them. But, the "stories" are nothing more than your standard japanese bizarreness, and not learning that storytelling should occur more in-game than out is a clear cut example of the immaturity of the MGS franchise. The fact that you can still hide in a box and will also now ground hump sure doesn't help. Sure, i'm gonna play the game, but not for anything related to "story," because there simply isn't one.

[vidgmr]

Guys, why is everyone getting upset over the reviews. The bottom line is the genre for this game is 'interactive movie', it was made for casuals. LoL, yeah it is a casual game. If sitting and watching a game is more hardcore then actually playing one, then well...maybe you are not really 'hardcore'.

LoL, and yeah you can skip the cut scenes, but then what is the sense in that? You will be skipping through over half the 'game'.

Just admit Metal Gear is what it is(and love it, I do)