The new Xbox division head honcho Phil Spencer is about to depart for Los Angeles and today he dropped a few more hints on what you’ll see at the press conference and afterwards.
I second that motion. He is really on a mission to turn things around. So far I give him a A. E3 will be awesome for all gamers. Sony, MS and nintendo news will have n4g crashing left and right. This may be the best E3 in years.
Don't act so mighty. Sony had the same approach YEARS ago. We're just so used to their exclusives that we 'forgot' where they came from. Lord knows the company didn't build each of their first-party studios from the ground up. They acquired almost all of them, either by standard purchasing procedures or in exchange for publishing agreements and whatnot.
The simple fact here is that shit like this are happening right now with no sign of stopping. So I would rather point the finger at the bad guy who is actually doing that shit rather than give history lessons no matter how true they might be.
By being actively vocal of their bad habits now, maybe just maybe we can avoid some.
Just look at MS and their total 180 since last E3, are you saying that all that fan reaction/rage to MS plans was a collective act of 'mightiness'??? (for lack of better English)
Or maybe its just about offending your favorite company?
Please dude take it somewhere else.
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Again, that's history.
I prefer MS bought those 3rd party studios and getting it over with rather than paying them just to keep a title away from the competition and leaving fans hoping and waiting for that exclusivity deal to run off.
Why is it so hard to understand that MS's way of doing things is foul; they do not invest on a studio, they simply deny a lot of fans of good games they would otherwise get to experience.
Something new at E3 huh. I thought he was just talking about the after presentation interview. 3 more days and it's GAME ON. Looking forward to seeing what the first part studios have been working on, he said they have never had this many games in development.
PS @Ultra you must forget that sony does the same thing Sucker Punch-BOUGHT, Naughty Dog-Bought, Guerilla Games-BOUGHT, Media Molecule-Bought. This is years after buying their exclusives. I could go on, these companies buy smaller companies or develop working contracts with other companies. Very few of sonys internal studies were actually built.
So a company trying to reinforce their software lineup and make their brand more attractive to end users is evil huh. This is what happens when one company has money and one doesn't. Its business, you don't think Sony would be buying studios and exclusives if they had the cash? I seriously doubt Kaz sits in a board room and says "We need to make sure we don't hog all these games!". Get real.
Amen indeed. I hope Phil is still incharge by the time the development of the next xbox starts.
The guy is so down to earth , very laid back and got class. I wish J allard would come back and work with Phil. They'd make a great pair. I wish Phil and the team all the best. Can't wait to see what team xbox have planned for us. I hope they reveal the new 1st party studios and shows us what they've been working on too. 3 days more.
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Yeah..shane kim and ed fries wbere greqa too, ed fries was incharge of game content for the original xbox. Those were great times indeed,
Man, the way things is going in prep for E3, it looks like even the fan boys of each camp will have a very tough time trying to create negative feed back... I am truly excited to own all 3 consoles....
Phil Spencer sucks. He didn't keep Dead Rising 3 as an Xbox One exclusives. So much for the "7 new exclusives" for the Xbox One. Pretty much four or five of them ported or will be ported to different platforms.
Buy an external hd for x1 in some cases it halfs the load times because usb3.0 is alot faster than the internal connecter sata thats why the ps4 can't match these times
You see your external hd only works on games on the drive, the internal drive works on the OS as while as the games, plus the recommended SSHD 1tb has faster times than the external drives for Xbox
Haven't seen any comparisons yet but who cares? Speeds are close enough either way. I'd definitely take 16TB of space over a 1TB solid state though in a console. You don't see the big performance gains a SSD provides say on a PC.
Sony fans should really pay attention to this comment
"We don’t own 2nd party IP. In first party, it’s a mix (like it was with Gears). My goal is to own what we fund."
No longer will they be able to claim that Microsoft exclusives will eventually show up on PS4. another arguing point loss. Hell the way things are going the absolute only arguing point Sony fan boys will have is the power difference which is barley noticeable.
And for the people who really think Sony is going to mop the floor with Microsoft with games and studios this gen this Phil says other wise
That is a good thing for everyone. Hopefully means less-timed exclusives and more of them actually owning their own IP's which would give people more of a reason to buy the thing.
That's great and all, but considering Alan Wake made the jump to PC from 360 along with several others, and the fact that Xbone is running a stripped version of Windows 8, call me crazy but I think we'll be seeing more MS exclusives hitting PC this gen.
They are MS exclusives made by MS studios, of course they will play on MS compatible devices. When console gamers talk about exclusives, they basically mean I can play this game on Console A and you can't on Console B. PC is not in the equation.
They really need to lockup Titanfall 2 and Sunset Overdrive (at least keep it X1 only). MS pumped a ton of money into assisting with development and marketing, especially for TF.
typical microsoft flashing the cash, wont happen a second time around, titanfall 2 will be uneashed from the shackles of an inferior machine and truly shine.
@Illusive They could pay EA to own it fully while its super cheap.
But I Don't if Phil, would..well I dunno I guess it could happen. If they announce that at E3 I wouldn't be entirely surprised. But I wouldn't be equally surprised if they didn't however.
so dead rising 3 and sunset overdrive doesn't count? insomniac owns that ip. so they can take it to other platforms unless Microsoft secures another game from them.
It is paramount to own the major IP's that drive your system. That is why them owning the Gears of War IP is so huge. I am really hyped for E3, it's going to be a huge show for each company.
"No longer will they be able to claim that Microsoft exclusives will eventually show up on PS4. another arguing point loss."
Phil's talking about games they (MS) fund...
Most of their 3rd party exclusives are only exclusive because they pay to delay or completely stop their release on Playstation - not because they're funding the development...
So unless MS is going to fund every one of their 3rd party exclusives, which will never happen, then the "arguing point" will still stand...
If he sticks true to that statement, then the whole BS timed exclusive arguments die because then Microsoft follows Sonys model (Which is what Phil has been doing) and focus more on strong 1st/Second part development.
I don't expect to see it for another couple years because he needs to work on bringing more studios under Microsofts roof.
You mean another E3 where they Showed nothing but games in still got screw out of the best e3 conference title? Yes, lets hope that fans aren't still with their head to far up Sony's ass to see the truth. E3 is a game show not a policy show.
Yea, let's forget that they where showing lots of games at e3 last year without them talking to us about the DRM situation they created. Yes gameon1985. Their e3 was an instant fail because of that. What's the point of getting these games on The Xbox if it seams like I can't even own what I bought?
This year should be different for ms with all the changes that has happened, especially since they've been humbled after that anus destruction that Sony did to them last year.
While owning what MS funds sounds like a great idea, Sony's tactic of owning the devs that they know are promising is a lot better.
Case in point: A good game can only be created by good devs. If that good game gets handled by a different dev, it's hard to tell if the quality will still be there. I'm looking at you, Batman: Arkham Origins.
And I'm not the slightest bit worried about Sony. They've proven that satisfying gamers with quality games is their objective. From PS1 to PS3, we've seen a variety of awesome titles. And I haven't even mentioned the support Sony gives to each of their consoles: 7+ years. Even today, and to name a few, the PS3 still has the following games in development:
You don't think the personnel in those studios don't come and go? Only the name of the studio is constant, games are always being developed by new people working within those organizations.
Sony actually has(or had) a similar policy. They funded a lot of 2nd party games, and in return retained the IP rights to them. Ratchet & Clank is a prime example. Quantic Dreams games are the same. With those IP's, even if the original developer didn't want to make it, they can still make games in those series with another developer. I think with R&C, Insomniac does have first rights to develop though, so they would have to refuse before Sony could find another dev.
Unfortunately for MS, the way they've done it, funding games but letting the devs retain the rights, means that they don't have control over the actual IP. Gears of War is a prime example. They paid for it's development, insuring it would remain exclusive. But when Epic wanted to move on, they had to dish out some major cash to get the right to use it. In this case, MS spent a lot of money securing the franchise, benefited from it, but Epic held the long term possible success of the series with the funds and efforts that MS put into it.
Such actions make sense for the developer when there is one dominant console, such as the PS2, as releasing on another console just won't return much for the effort.
On the downside, the developer loses rights to the IP, but whether that's a bad thing for the developer depends on what they hope to achieve, and it's solely on the developer. New developers may find this kind of thing extremely beneficial to them as they can get established without taking as much rish. On the other hand, more established devs may be very weary of giving up what is potentially a long term money maker.
lol, hurt like that. ps4 8 million, x1 5 million. im pretty sure a female know what's better at the moment. that said why everytime somebody say something about x1 or ps4 they are ps or X1 fanboys???? grow up pp. they are plastic... i don't own a next gen console, just given you a point, that's what she said.. #E3.
So what you're saying is that MS are starting to do what Sony has been doing for years??
Although, that comment from Phil doesn't really say much... All the big IP on XBox are owned anyway since Gears.
Also, it's not like Dead Rising or TitanFall fall under this statement, as they 3rd party developed, and I doubt Capcom or EA would want to miss out on revenue with the PS4 so far ahead in sales for the sequels... Unless MS really do start reaching deeper in to that money hat.
As much as I like Phil and think he's going to be good for Xbox, it's still all talk... "I can say we keep investing in 1st party"... Big deal! Show us more games that aren't the usual Halo, Forza, Fable, Gears - they are all good IP, but if MS are heavily investing in 1st party.,.. Let's see what's new!
Rolling off a fairly random list of titles is easy. Why not engage in a debate / discussion instead.
How about I start...
It's interesting that Phil said they want to own what they fund.
This has actually been a negative at times in the past because devs like to keep their IP. If MS are saying they want to own the IP of anything they fund (or publish?) - they may see mixed results.
It's also interesting because Insomniac said in an IGN interview that one of the reasons Sunset Overdrive was exclusive was because it enabled them to retain the IP... So does that mean MS are not funding the game at all, or that this is a new strategy from Phil?
I believe MS own the IP for Ryse, and Quantum Break... But they are unlikely to ever get the IP for TitanFall, Dead Rising, or Plants vs Zombies. They are just too lucrative for third parties. (And other than Dead Rising, TitanFall seems to have been a flash in the pan, and Plants vs Zombies looks OK at best, but hardly a great example of good exclusivity)
Also, in terms of announcements of FIRST PARTY titles (the devs Phil specifically said they were investing in), I don't see much in the way of fresh new AAA stuff... Hopefully E3 will change that.
D4... I bet Access Games just LOVE that Kinect has been dropped! Plus they're third party aren't they? And no indication that MS own the IP.
Max:CoB... Woohoo, a first party AAA game. System seller for sure! How much crap did Sony fans get for liking Resogun... Another download only title that was well received.
Killer Instinct... Yeah, because releasing a fairly average glorified demo of a beloved 19 year old classic is just what everyone REALLY wanted!
-Quantum Break is developed by Remedy 2nd Party -Plants vs Zombie developed by Pop cap an EA studio itsa 3rd Party game and not even an exclusive it is coming to PS4 -Titanfall developed by Respawn published by EA and not exclusive how is that first Party? -Sunset Overdrive develeoped by insomniac 2nd party -Ryse developed by Crytek 2nd Party
Only 1st Party triple AAA games are Forza and Kinect sport Rivals
Sony are already way ahead on that front, and just recently got a new studio, with RAD also likely to also become a Sony studio, even Sony santa monica has two different studios within it.
But in a whole it is why Phil Spencer is the right man for the job. And the only Xbox exclusive games Sony fans say will come to PS4 are games with IP owned by the game company not MS
I wouldn't be surprised if Quantic Dreams becomes 1st party in the future as well. They have a couple successful games already for the PS3, and David Cage has been positive about the idea.
I think the point of Phil's statement is to point out that they are trying to become more invested in the gaming industry. Sony has spent 20 years building what they have, whereas MS 1st party, while not small, still doesn't make at least half of their big AAA exclusives. Most of those do come from 2nd party, and MS doesn't own the rights, which means they'll aren't getting to a position that Sony has.
They're are advantages to just funding 2nd party exclusives. Mainly, they don't have to maintain staff, which can be quite costly.
I figured out the 3rd party exclusive title everyone's going on about. They say it is a rebirth of a series, so my guess is the glorious return of NFL 2k15 only on xbox one. The "exclusive" license no longer belongs to EA, just licensing itself.
A few days people. A few days longer and we shall see who has what to show. I just hope this is the best year yet with many games to show on all consoles. Exclusive and 3rd party.
Phil should have been promoted to the head of xbox a long time ago.
Sony fans should really pay attention to this comment
"We don’t own 2nd party IP. In first party, it’s a mix (like it was with Gears). My goal is to own what we fund."
No longer will they be able to claim that Microsoft exclusives will eventually show up on PS4. another arguing point loss. Hell the way things are going the absolute only arguing point Sony fan boys will have is the power difference which is barley noticeable.
And for the people who really think Sony is going to mop the floor with Microsoft with games and studios this gen this Phil says other wise
"I can say we keep investing in 1st party"
I figured out the 3rd party exclusive title everyone's going on about. They say it is a rebirth of a series, so my guess is the glorious return of NFL 2k15 only on xbox one. The "exclusive" license no longer belongs to EA, just licensing itself.
This E3's gonna be EPIC!!!!
A few days people. A few days longer and we shall see who has what to show. I just hope this is the best year yet with many games to show on all consoles. Exclusive and 3rd party.