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Forza Horizon 2 Has Fully Dynamic Lighting, Is Three Times Bigger Than Predecessor

Some new details on Forza Horizon 2 have been revealed: the game has fully dynamic lighting in every scene, and a drivable area three times bigger than Forza Horizon, with players no longer constrained by roads.

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fardan853612d ago

Color me interested.
Bigger world, Lots of contents, Dynamic light, I'm loving it.
I'll wait for gameplay.

Gazondaily3612d ago

Yeah after the whole fiasco with Forza 5 and one user on here in particular constantly vomiting the word "pre-baked lighting" I'm glad this can shut the haters up.

However, I find this interesting:

"We believe next gen beauty isn’t about poly counts. It’s not about texture resolution. Those are last-gen concepts. Next-gen beauty is about light. Our challenge in this game was really to make that dynamic"

So by that definition, Forza 5 never benefited from next-gen beauty because of its lack of dynamic lighting?

christocolus3612d ago

@septic

I think forza 5 was developed side by side with the forza 5 engine, it was also a launch title and turn 10 had to rush the game to meet launch.it still looked really impressive though but in the end they had to cut some things out of the game.. Playground on the other hand will have a much better game because they will be working with the engine properly and they also have more time on their side to take advantage of the new engine. I think horizon2 will be much better looking than FZ5. I'm so glad we will stop hearing things like pre-baked lighting,no day and night cycles and all that crap.

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Alexious3612d ago

Yeah, I love the setting in Southern Europe as well!

dale_denton3612d ago

driveclub has all that already but i bet you hate it cause you can't play it on the bone huh?

4Sh0w3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

Septic I just think he means FH2 has a different focus, while F5 is about simulation physics and real world tracks. Horizon is an open world arcade racer, F5 was great but as hardcore gamers we KNOW launch games and generally games throughout a console life cycle always look to improve upon launch titles and successive iterations that doesn't mean those games weren't great. No excuses, I think Turn10 did a helluve job and I point this out because Forza5 gets a lot of hate but we've yet to see a better overall next gen racing game to date, with others being delayed, others not able to achieve similar level of details vs specs, and NONE with better AI/physics.

Sure I get comments about lacking content, but this nitpicking or comparisons about what Forza5 DOES NOT HAVE with game THAT ARE NOT OUT YET is no different than saying Infamous SS or Sunset Overdrive isn't great because future open world games will have Dynamic Lighting along with Day/Night cycles. aahh, that's great but while those of you are waiting for the definitive next gen game to come, I'll just play some great games that are much improved over last gen until those "super next gen games" come.

-Oh, well this is also what got my attention:

"A gameplay teaser is supposedly coming on Friday, so stay tuned for more on this promising racing title."

-Hell yeah, sounds like they are raising the bar again, as sequels should.

Destrania3611d ago (Edited 3611d ago )

This makes it sound like FH2 is trying to be just like Ubisoft's The Crew...

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360ICE3612d ago

Speaking of details:

"We believe next gen beauty isn’t about poly counts. It’s not about texture resolution. Those are last-gen concepts. Next-gen beauty is about light."

That is actually kind of true. I mean, do the cars really need more polygons? I remember they said the same thing about Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, but then said that shaders was key, instead of light.

Looking forward to see more of this for sure.

Agent20093612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

They're right about the light thing, it's almost incomparably more crucial than those damn resolutions, polygons, or AAs. Though, two other aspects developers should remember of when working on creating attractive visuals, are color and architecture (design of locations). These three graphic elements are way more important to the overall visual style than any bombastic 4Ks, DirectXs, and super-uber photo-realistic engines.

360ICE3612d ago

Well, AA is something I hope gets better this generation. So far it looks like it is. Stylistically clean Mirror's Edge took a jab from bad anti-aliasing (on console, anyway). It wasn't a disaster, but still.

But, yeah. Visual design and picture composition (yes, even in games) is massively important. Journey knows what's up.

Alsybub3612d ago

Just look at those lighting mods for GTA4 if you're wondering if lighting makes a big difference to a game. It can be astounding.

SPARTAN33612d ago

Ya we kinda be down this road cars in car games have Polys. Yes lighting is the next thing to really make games look good all the diffent maps they use and ways lights can change the look and feel of the game. just look at infamous SS a large part of that game look good is lighting and particles.

callahan093612d ago

"We believe next gen beauty isn’t about poly counts. It’s not about texture resolution. Those are last-gen concepts. Next-gen beauty is about light."

Reading between the lines, in all honesty, what he's saying is that the textures & models will be the same (or at least very close) between the 360 and Xbone versions. They are using the same assets across both platforms. So what do they do to make the Xbox version a step up from the last-gen version? A new lighting system.

Dewitt3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

No he is saying that the dynamic lighting system takes priority, it is using the FM5 engine and they don't recycle textures. The 360 version is using the FH1 engine.

kingPoS3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

Lighting can make or break a game, it's how some racing games can look as well as they do with less graphical grunt than others.

Or...

How does PD make it shine like that!

Interesting!

Gateway MT6706 2008

Alexious3612d ago

Lighting can truly change the look of a game for the better, that's for sure.

I can't wait to see some gameplay of FH2

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truefan13612d ago

Forza Horizon 2 = True Next Gen Experience

mrpsychoticstalker3612d ago

The best of the best. No other races out there compares to Forza

Jdoki3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

Genuine question for you truefan1...

Do you think an experience can be truly 'next-gen' when it's also being developed for older tech (360 in this case)?

To me 'next gen' is more than just better graphics, textures, polygons - it is doing things in a game that were not possible on the previous generation of hardware.

Don't get me wrong, Forza 2 looks like it'll be a great game, but surely the limitations of the 360 will bleed through to the XB1 version purely because of the more limited hardware baseline (for example, if the game was solely developed for XB1 would the map be even bigger).

EDIT: It does look like two studios are handling each version after all, so it will interesting to see how close they are in terms of feature set

marlinfan103612d ago

@jdoki

The different versions are being developed by different teams.

Dewitt3612d ago (Edited 3612d ago )

@Jdoki

They are being developed on two different engines by two different developers. Meaning there are no limitations.

3 times the space to roam of the original, are we going to keep going? 700 events over 100 hours of gameplay.

Jdoki3612d ago

Yeah, two teams, which is good news.

But there's no mention of whether the features, map size etc will be the same or different.

marlinfan103612d ago

The x1 version is being built from the ground up on the next gen engine that was used for forza 5, they wont have to hold anything back for 360.

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Allsystemgamer3612d ago

@mrpsychotic

*smacks face on table*

Magicite3612d ago

hey, thats a good joke, I almost laughed.

Trekster_Gamer3612d ago

Jdoki…
They are NOT being developed using the same engine so hell yes!!

FH2 USING FORZA 5 engine… for Xbox One

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Festano3612d ago

I agree, I'm hoping for a nice trailer.

Muffins12233612d ago

It seems like there putting a lot of effort with the weather,the rain looks really good.

XiSasukeUchiha3612d ago

Interesting indeed...I'm liking it.

medman3612d ago

Uhhhh...no thanks. I'll be playing The Crew.

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B1uBurneR3612d ago

if they really want to add something new to this, they should add a one hand on the steering wheel the other on my crouch view, what about a gangsta lean view chilling.? Continue please....

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Looking Back To 2014 and Forza Horizon 2

Paul writes: "Forza Horizon 2 then, a game from 2014 - a game that still stands up today"

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xRacer74x1667d ago

Would love to see a PC port of this game Forza 3 and 4 are just gorgeous on XBOX but Jaw dropping on PC.

ilikestuff1666d ago (Edited 1666d ago )

I remember when gran turismo was the driving sim king, I miss those days, I played the crap out of gt1, took me forever to get enough credits to get that viper, gt2 brought those muscle cars! Gt3 was a banger, gt4 was the downfall in my opinion, it was like they half assed the game, I think at one point they scanned a model car and used the bottom of it for the bottom of a car on their game. They gave up the crown and dont seem to care. Man though, gt1,2, and 3 were great.

sizeofyou1666d ago

Seriously even comparing FH to GT? 🤔

sampsonon1666d ago

not like DC does. they were 10 yrs ahead of their time.
https://youtu.be/pBEip6goHb...

but FH2 was pretty good as well.

ilikestuff1666d ago

Awesome video, those weather effects are nuts. I know that game didn’t start off to good but they should’ve gave them one more chance before they got shit down. Loved motorstorm

sampsonon1666d ago

i made sure i bought it before they de listed it from the ps store. those graphics are still one of the best this gen. and the best when it comes to realism. it looks soo real sometimes.

ramiuk11666d ago

i was blown away by driveclub ,infact still am tbh...
the rain !!!!!!!!!

porkChop1666d ago

DriveClub had some really impressive weather effects. It's a shame they didn't get another shot.

spicelicka1666d ago

Graphically that's true DC is the best looking racing game ever, but the article isn't talking about graphics only. Game design and gameplay in FH2 was miles ahead and has consistently improved with each iteration.

sampsonon1666d ago

they are saying it still holds up. to me that's a graphical thing. but if they think the open world car games are is the thing that makes a racing game hold up then The Crew is the winner.

in 10 yrs you can show DC and people will still think it's one of the best looking games.

but i get your point.

xRacer74x1666d ago

Just think if DC did not have prerendered backgrounds and the narrowest roads of any game i had played in a long time and it felt like it was on rails. DC was subpar and it cost the studio their jobs.

sampsonon1666d ago (Edited 1666d ago )

first of all the studio was shut down because of the launch of the game and all the free dlc they had to give away because of it. not the game itself.
pre-rendered backgrounds? lol thanks i needed that laugh.

"Just think if DC did not have prerendered backgrounds and the narrowest roads of any game i had played in a long time and it felt like it was on rails."

that's called a racetrack dumb dumb :)

FH2 had some of the worst graphics in a racer so of course you could have an open world. too bad the crew did a better job than FH2 and still does when it comes to open world racing.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

https://youtu.be/5WS55RHXyz...

xRacer74x1666d ago (Edited 1666d ago )

@sampsonon Except Genius(Intended Irony) not all the tracks were race tracks. And No feeling like the game is on rails does not mean its a race track either. DC was a subpar racing game. I really enjoyed the invisible barriers when you drove on the burm too. Forza was such a better game but that does not need to be said its why the studio is still making games and the other was FIRED. I get it though its not like on the PS4 their is a great arcade first party racing game. So you do not know any better.

sampsonon1666d ago (Edited 1666d ago )

@xRacer74x they were race tracks, just not off road tracks.
sub par my ass. Like i said sony only disbanded the company because of the bad launch. they also have GT so they could afford to close the company.

FH2 looked like shit and still does compared to the superior graphocs of DC. even 3 looks shit compared to DC.
One game was using tracks and the other was an open world. one looked way better and the other one allowed you to "REWIND" HAHA! when you race = garbage.

Forza Horizon is a fun game, don't get me wrong. but it was lacking in so many places compared to DC.
https://youtu.be/aa6qZ2pny6...

spicelicka1666d ago

I don't think simply being open world makes a game hold up, there were plenty of things FH2 did so well. IMO it did many things better than the Crew, which is why it's rated so much higher as well. Better graphics than the crew, the multiplayer was amazing with FM drivatar tech, and the handling of car just feels better than any arcade racer given the variety. The soundtrack is still my favourite.

Imortus_san1666d ago

LMAO, all the people that add no internet sucked balls since the phisical edition did not had those effects.

Forza Horizon 2 metacritic = 86 user 83
https://www.metacritic.com/...

Drive Club metacritic = 71 user = 63
https://www.metacritic.com/...

There is no real comparation, Drive CLub floped and the company went down while Forza Horizon 2 triumphed.

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3-4-51666d ago

* I've still yet to beat the game and haven't bought FH3 or FH4 because I still have stuff to do in FH2....I just haven't played in a while. It's an awesome game and yes it still is just as good now as when it originally released.

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Jacob writes: "Following on from my list of insanely difficult achievements, it’s time to shine the spotlight on another type of hellish achievement. The dreaded grind. These are the awards that will take you hundreds of hours at the absolute minimum, and often involve repeating menial tasks over and over. It’s safe to say that these were definitely not made with the casual gamer in mind. Only the most committed will ever see these pop."

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rewording countless other articles, yayyy

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Pay much more for playing a bit earlier – this new emerging trend is alarming

As different as they are, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Forza Horizon, FIFA 19, and the new Tomb Raider have something in common. You could play all of them earlier than others. But there was a catch – you had to pay extra. And this practice doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon.

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InKnight7s2009d ago

Meanwhile selling Switch at MSRP price is considered an amazing offer. PATHETIC.

CDbiggen2008d ago

What's that got to do with this article?

Segata2009d ago

Is this how they trick people into paying $80 Us Dollars for games next gen? Then I will get every game used.

princejb1342009d ago

if games cost $80 next gen i will problably quit console gaming

Sokol2009d ago

Games have been priced at 79.99$ in Canada for almost six years now.

It won't change anything.. Sadly.

princejb1342009d ago

@sokol sorry to hear that its been $60.00 in the US. If it goes up in the US it will probably go up in canada also

sawoosevens2009d ago (Edited 2009d ago )

With their current practices bringing up prices is not practical unless they remove MT and get back to making awesome games like the old days I'm still at a complete loss as to how our technologies has come so far and our games have become hot pieces of garbage of course some games are exceptions. Only games I feel okay with $ 80 towards are all made by Sony and that's me thanking them for providing me with the true gaming experience from when I was young when games we're actually fun.

sawoosevens2009d ago (Edited 2009d ago )

If they remove MT and actually make games fun again like they used to I'll gladly pay $ 80 for game hell I already do that for Sony's games.

Jinger2009d ago

As long as the early access is just an additional feature of the edition that comes with the season pass and all that then I'm fine with it. But I'm not going to pay extra JUST for early access.

AK912009d ago

Don’t buy it, speak with your wallets not your words.

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