The June Xbox One system update will include the ability to utilize external storage devices. A Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed to videogamer.com that the upper limit for external storage support is 16TB.
Damn..that's huge. Thumbs up to the update team,those guys are definitly doing a great job.
16TB=infinite to me.
Hoho, you are such Dewitt
I bet a movie enthusiast can fill up 16tb real fast with their porn collection... errr... movie collection.
More than enough for gaming needs. Not so much HD video content, but 16TB will be more than enough for 99% of the population, should last the entire generation. With support for 2 drives, at 8TB apiece? Those don't even exist yet and won't for a good long while. Bummer they have to be USB 3.0, I got an old 2.0 4TB I got a few years back I paid $380 for, be nice if I could use that. 500GB for X1/PS4 was a foolish decision. I'm sitting at 75% usage with 11 games on my X1 already. Considering there are 44 games available right now, you certainly couldn't have them all installed on your system, and we are only 6 months in. The systems should have had minimum 1TB, but 2TB would probably be optimal. "Kinda working out to 40 games per terabyte" I'd estimate 50GB a game, so I'd half that figure to be on the safe side.
my porn collection disagrees :/
I remember people saying the same thing about 20GB. In a couple of years 16TB won't be that much anymore. It'll probably still be more than enough for the lifespan of the X1 though.
I have 18 TB in my PC. 6 3TB Barracudas (4 in RAID0 and 2 in Windows RAID). Here's a pic: http://s13.postimg.org/yonm... I thought it was a lot when I built my PC last year, but I'm only left with 4.5TB of useable space between the 2 volumes. And that's because I already offloaded about 2 TB to an external drive.
That's what I've said when I got my 20 MB's for Atari back in the day...probably for vast majority over here it's ancient history.
Assuming that most games are between 14gb and 50gbs.. Let's just say each game is 50gbs. 16TB of room = 16,000Gbs 16,000 / 50gbs = 320 games. That's a lot of games!!! So you can fit up to 500 if there are smaller files.. Man.. Xbox is doing great stuff.
will the ps4 support external HD? just curious considering it has USB 3.0 ports
The title is worded as if that is a bad thing... Nothing is future proof but anyone complaining about 17tb for a console needs help...
Wow! Thats incredible. But, I'll add this. When 360 launched the best model was 20GB. The biggest now is 320GB. Or, 16 times the original size. Now, my 320GB drive is filled. The X1 came with a 0.5 TB drive, which is solid, however a 16TB drive would represent 32 times as much storage. I fully expect that this should cover the next generation, especially if games take between 5Gb and 50gb in instal size, plus updates, DLC etc. Great move, and hopefully this suffices over next 5-7 years.
I only have a network drive at home so I'll need a new external for my x1.. Started thinking about storage.. I have ten games in under 250gb (its at 50% but os takes room etc) Kinda working out to 40 games per terabyte.. Realized that and stopped looking at 4tb drives.. People need to think about how many games they actually buy... 16.5tb is insane and way more then 99.9% of people would need..
Early last gen games didn't take up as much space on the hard drive either. As the gen progressed they began using more of the hard drive for quicker access. Then of course digital became a bigger thing. I do have a feeling by the end of this gen, you'd be lucky to be able to find a 1TB drive, much like you have to hunt down anything that's less than 40GB nowadays.
Realistically I'm only gonna need 8. And that will last forever for me. EDIT: Somewhat offtopic what do you guys think of this vid? Can this happen in the future updates? http://youtu.be/GLEEnoEzuH4
What people are forgetting to realize that while next generation consoles are coming, the next gen games are also getting bigger and bigger. Also don't forget lazy developers bring day-one patches which, depending how broken the game is, can be incredibly enormous. So I wouldn't be surprised if 1 TB is going to limit less than 20 next-gen games.
Man, still with the "lazy" developers?
You are right.. Games probably will get larger.. But most updates rewrite data, not simply add to it.. A 2gb update may only add 500mb to the total size
Well, nice update for Xbox users. Congrats to Microsoft for making it happen. I was curious to see how much a 16TB HDD would cost, WOW...a whopping $1000.00-$10,000.00! And I've seen them priced up to $20,000.00 I think it's safe to say, that most if not all Xbox users will be using on average 1TB to 8TB units. 8TB cost around $650 or more...but nonetheless...a great update for Xbone.
You can have TWO external HHDs with the update. So two 8GB HDDs not one 16GB.
I ordered 2 5tb hard drives from Amazon last night. So I have 10.5TB right there which should hold me for a long time Edit: also love the fact you can take it to your friends house with it. Just plug and play. Nice
@Nine_Thousaaandd Some of the stupidly expensive 16TB storage solutions you may have found were NAS'es. NAS enclosures have proprietary software that you are shelling serious money for. Some are made from numerous SSDs combined together (VERY EXPENSIVE). Also some have mirroring meaning you actually have much more than 16TB (or whatever the stated capacity) of combined space between drives, but some of the drives are used for duplication (mirror) and/or as "hot spares" in the event of drive failures. RAID 6 is one of the most resilient RAID types (especially with mirroring), but because of the largest minimum drive requirement due to the double parity it is also the most expensive. The irony of RAID is that one of its acronyms (not a fully correct one, especially now) is "Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks". A more correct acronym is "Redundant Array of Independent Disks". http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Other factors add to external drive price (beyond those in NAS'es) such as connectivity options -- Thunderbolt being the most expensive connectivity option, especially when combined with eSATA, USB3.0, and Firewire 800 simultaneously. Those planning on getting drives for the XBO can obviously focus on USB3.0 only drives to keep the price down.
Could get an external USB raid enclosure and get several cheaper drives. Probably better to just scale as needed though unless you are really into techie cool stuff that none of your friends will care about.
16TB? how am i supposed to run my spaceship now?
Wow, This is an Amazing feature.
I guess if not being able to upgrade your internal hard drive and allowing you to use external hard drives like you should always be able to is a "feature" then sure
@vvstrel. I'm a playstation fan. I own a ps4. Won't own an Xbox for a while, I do know I can't purchase a 16tb 2.5" internal hard drive for my ps4. So ya this is very cool.
Says you, meanwhile I have a pile of 17 Terabyte hard drives rotting in the corner. ;)
Sckipt, well be a good Sony fanboy and complain about all the X1 updates, and you can call it evens...... Game over.....
Me too glad to have an update here and their then one big one every six months or so. I do believe the updates will start to be spread out a little more around November since that when the console will be what it should have been at launch feature wise at least. Am happy though finally now I can put my 2TB drive I bought just for this to use.
If you ever need more than that, you can probably afford a second Xbox.
Being that one could hook up to two devices at a time, if you would run out of space you could just remove one and add another and still be set to go.
Hell yeah, that's sweet, I'm going to have a huge digital collection of games on 1- 16TB HDD (eventually). lol, remember early last gen when we thought 20GB were alot? Micro has done a great job here in fixing any storage concerns, very convenient also. -From Videogamer.com: "This is also a great way to take your content to a friend's house and get straight into a game directly from an external drive. You'll need to sign in to Xbox Live if you've purchased your content digitally or insert a disc to verify your game ownership when you take your content on the road. The great benefit here is there's no need to wait to re-download your game and all the DLC. With external storage support in June, you can also choose to copy full games and all of the associated content in one easy step." I don't always agree with some of their decisions but I do commend their aggressiveness and focus to improve their platform.
Isn't that a little against the whole cloud concept? Baring HDD is not really "modern" but I agree, 16TB is more than enough and I guess it supports any device which is really nice!
"lol, remember early last gen when we thought 20GB were alot?" Cant say I do. Back in 2005, I had 1.5TB of HDD space in my PC and it wasn't nearly enough. 20GB was pathetic even back then. Hence all the mods people were doing to use their own HDDs.
16,884 gigs? Same HDD's can be used on Xbox Three in 2030 with all the games from all 3 consoles (number based on 16TB+internal HDD)
I don't even use that much for my PC, and I own a lot of games. I have almost 5tb used. 16tb is just, damn.
Hmmm...when I was into downloading software illegally I could have easily filled up that much. I don't do that anymore though, and I haven't even filled up a 1TB drive on my PS3 yet despite downloading everything PS+ has offered since it's inception, and a bunch of PS1 RPG's I brought. PS4 and X1 both install the whole game on the HD now from what I understand, so I'm sure it'll fill up faster.
So its limited to two 8TB external drives? I don't think I would ever need that much space personally. Maybe one 8TB.
Do they even make HDD that big?
If you RAID them haha
I just did a Google search, the biggest hard drive ever is apparently 120 petabytes. Whatever that is...
A Petabyte is 1024TB. :) That's a lot of storage.
I think the largest announced drive is 6tb right now, though I don't know if it's shipping yet. But you can get enclosures that hold multiple hard drives that make it appear as one large drive to the os. You can also get better performance using striping across the drives.
@kneon True, but I highly doubt the Xbox One will allow Raid 0 on USB 3.0 drives. Perhaps if the enclosure you have in mind has a built in controller.
You could also just expand them with smaller drives. So buy a 1 or 2TB drive now, then another one in a couple years, then another down the line, then just swap them out as needed.
Now that,s insane, why would they limit you to such small storage?/s
Even with the "/s" people fail to pick up on it.
Earlier on twitter Major Nelson said you could have two plugged in at the same time...so is that 16tb each or total? Either way, that is way more than you need right now, and if it fills up...oh well...swap it.
16 TB total between the two drives.
Microsoft keeps on winning
Just curious, exactly what is MS winning? And not only that you said they keep on winning. Come in last place every game generation. But keep winning, roflamo.
@utalk lol go enjoy your system man, no need to come start arguments. clearly you don't like the xbox so why bother coming to xbox articles?
@utalkin2me Why does his statement upset you so?he never mentioned hardware sales but you brought that in all by yourself. Chill out,if you don't like the xbox,comments from xbox fans or these type of articles then why bother coming around?
@christ Why does it upset? Maybe because the statement is false in every possible way outside fanboy thinking? Could that be it? This place has been so full of people spewing false information for years it gets frustrating from time to time. Even the smallest of false comments irritates sometimes. Clearly nigel's comment was meant in that Charlie Sheen "winning"-mentality but still the way he said it can be taken as a jab against competition in which case the statement is false. Had Nigel only said "winning" and nothing more we wouldn't have this debacle now would we?
U are trying too hard bro. MS is winning back it's fans.
insomnium2, you just commented in another topic that the X360 stopped getting games after 2 years. So is there a reason why you think you're opinion is valid on who is and isn't a fanboy? So stop trying to take what is essentially a positive topic about the XBOX One and make it about you and your fight against those who like the system and your own personal issues with the company. Great update, years people have been hounding Microsoft to be able to have an external hard drive and one that isn't a proprietary based with a huge mark up like we've seen on the XBOX 360 and we still see for memory cards on the Playstation Vita. It will also host 2 external drives simultaneously so you could have 8+8 terabyte drives.
-Bringing back Killer Instinct -Changing their policies for the better -Getting rid of Don Mattrick -Constent updates
All of those are good moves to promote sales for their product yes. It doesn't change the fact that they want gaming to be VERY restricted, controlled, milked and abused (from a gamers pov ofc). The initial reveal ruined their chance of ever winning me over most likely.
@ Insomnium2 What? How are they restricted, controlled and milked? Give me a break, especially with "milked". How many GT or God of Wars, or Metal Gear Solids have we seen on the PS? Are we not excited for Uncharted 4 anymore because that tends to be "milked"? Popular franchises are not milked when it comes to exclusives. They are popular and in high demand, of course studios will continue the franchise. COD is a milked franchise. They made COD4MW and attempted to rinse and repeat and ultimately have ruined COD for many old school COD fans. MS doesn't Milk anything. If you think MS will stop with Halo and Gears, their 2 monsters and face of the Xbox division, well then, you really don't know how business works. Also, their initial reveal should not have ruined anything. Sure, they could have explained it better, but it had a LOT of awesome features they were going to do but were overshadowed by people who have internet, complaining on websites, about having their consoles always connected. It was laughable. Hate to break it to people, but consoles target audience are not countries with under developed infrastructures and third world countries.
@jeff How are they restricting the gamers? They wanted DRM and used sale fee on games for example. Also everything behind a paywall. How they controll gamers? Participating retailers only for example. You should watch angry joe's rants about this. How are they milking? I say that since it's only the same 3 franchises MS "invests" in that are safe bets every time. Where are the big budget exclusive new ips? Also Halo ODST and Halo Wars is something that defines milking to me. GT games have been releasing in a timespan of 2 decades. Kinda same with MGS. GOW is milking imo. However in addition to all those games there are a douzen new ips on 7th gen alone that were born on PS3. Uncharted, Infamous, Resistance and Motorstorm for example. MS only has Geow as a new ip but Forza, Halo and Fable were all on the original xbox. You can't explain 24 hour check in or else your console is a dud in any acceptable way. You seem to be one of those entitled pricks who think that the world revolves around your needs and wants. The x360 had about 50 million offline gamers. It's clearly the master plan to ignore them and put a DRM into Xbone. That shows how MS really knows how business works right?
Ignorance is bliss i s'pose. Xone isn't winning at all at the moment, not even close.
Sounds like it's using NTFS with 4k cluster size(Want even that is loool :p) http://support.microsoft.co... That's a mega tonne of storage
When I saw the word and then the number I was thinking it got used wrong here. Like saying you limited to do what you want.
Im jelly of you guys,Hopefully Sony allows PS4 users to use External HDD also. So i can have all mi DLC in one and all my downloaded games on another.
"So i can have all mi DLC in one and all my downloaded games on another." Interesting! that's not a bad idea I suppose