MotoGP 14 Targeting 1080P@30 On PS4; No Difference With PC; Why There's No XB1 Version

In this talk about MotoGP 14, Milestone reveals their experience with PS4, the resolution/frame rate and why the game is not coming to Xbox One.

[boskoz]

Damn, bad luck for Xbox One users!

[truefan1]

Don't feel sorry for me for this game, when I start missing games like Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive feel sorry for me. No harm done, the opportunity isn't there, I respect their decision. It just wasn't some dev talking trash looking for 15 minutes of fame.

PS I agree with people below, we have to right the ship. Racing, fighting, and shooter should be 60fps, no exceptions.

[ZodTheRipper]

I feel sorry for you regardless of what you're missing out on.

[mrmarx]

you mean the last of us and uncharted.

[MysticStrummer]

If I didn't feel sorry for you already, this game wouldn't change anything.

[Alexious]

Well, admittedly it is a niche genre. But I have Titanfall on my PC, so I wouldn't really count that as an exclusive...

As for racing/shooter with obligatory 60FPS, that's really not the case. The sensation of speed can be rendered in 30FPS as well if the developer knows what it's doing (Motorstorm is a good example).

[Boody-Bandit]

60fps should be the standard, no exceptions you say?

Forza Horizon and the PGR series were excellent games, both of which I like more than Forza 5 (yes I have it and play it regularly XBL- BoodyBandit), and they ran at 30fps.

Horizon 2 will probably be announced at E3. I hope for your sake it's not 30fps yet again. I don't think you will find many people that love racing games that didn't think Forza Horizon was exceptional. Than again anything a trolls says should be taken with a truck load of salt.

Glad you're enjoying TitanFall. I played it on and off for 2 weeks than sent it back to GameFly. The first couple days I had a blast but than my enthusiasm fell off a cliff. I just couldn't get into it. Most people I know that bought it all feel the same way. Good thing I rented it.

[JMyers]

@truefan1

TLOU, UC, GOW, And all the numerous studios says hi. Another game skipping X1

[dantesparda]

Its funny cuz the MS fanboys claim the PS4 has to games, yet its the X1 that is always not getting the game. Its the trend. Just more proof of their obliviousness.

[gamernova]

30 fps? Lol I'm good. Even my phone could handle those specs.

[Magicite]

almost every month since launch PS4 has had more games than X1. With time this gap will grow larger (more exclusives for PS4 and more 3rd parties avoiding X1).
Its so early into 8th gen, yet we already seeing differences between lead platform and others.

[LexHazard79]

Lol...at you thinking 3rd party support will diminish on Xbox One. Most of the devs not working on Xbox one are indies. Xbox is not Wii U I dont see that happening anytime soon.

[LexHazard79]

I Feel bad for Xbox One users who like the Moto series. That being said I dont play it so no biggie for me and if I want to play it I can get it for PS4.

[odderz]

Anyone else think that these racing games should really be aiming for 60FPS? When it comes to a racing title, I'd prefer lesser graphics and a higher framerate.

[dale_denton]

driveclub looks great for 30fps so i'm fine with it.

[GarrusVakarian]

You're right, it does. It's no secret how much im hyped for DriveClub around here...but even i can say it would *feel* better to play at 60fps. Twice the frames, twice the input response.

[johndoe11211]

Yeah so I gotta admit to being guilty. I got no problem admitting when I'm wrong. I was one of those that was complaining about the 30fps for driveclub when they first announced it but then I saw that last trailer they released last week and OOOHHHH BOY, that sh!t blew me through next sunday. If that is what that game looks like at 30fps then I got absolutely no problem with it.

[PaperMan]

Drive club looks great. But it all depends on how it plays. If it's poor to play then it doesn't matter how good it looks.

[Alexious]

@lukas

Motorstorm had 30FPS and it felt just fine.

[n4rc]

I'd agree...

Was just ripping around in a grand Prix car in forza for the x class ... I can't imagine keeping that feeling of speed at 30fps..

[monkeyDzoro]

Have you played NFS MostWanted on PS2 ? MidnightClub L.A on PS360 ?
I guess you didnt feel the speed...

[GarrusVakarian]

There are tons of racers that are 30fps that have incredible sense of speeds. PGR, NFS, Blur, Midnight Club, Testdrive Unlimited, Split Second, Forza Horizon...and more recently, DriveClub.

60fps would make it feel smoother and more responsive to play, but sense of speed isn't exclusive to 60fps racers.

[johndoe11211]

Yeah....of course you can't.

[liquidhalos]

I had that sense of speed playing pgr, that was a fantastic game. Today is the first time I'd heard it was only 30fps. I suppose it's all down to the developers and how well they can interpret that sense of speed using experience.

[n4rc]

Its different.. They use a blur effect or whatever else..

Open wheel racing on forza is the best sense of speed I've seen in any game.. Part of it is the responsiveness etc

Just my opinion

[GarrusVakarian]

Agreed. I'm hyped beyond belief for DriveClub, which runs at 30fps, but i think 60fps should be prioritized for racers. A game featuring ridiculously fast super bikes should be 60fps.

Racers and FPS's, imo, should be 60fps. (In an ideal world, all games would be 60fps, but alas, consoles have to make compromises). But hey, im not a developer, i don't get to make those decisions.

[johndoe11211]

I would have agreed with you on that point before last week when I saw the last driveclub trailer, but now, I dunno. Driveclub looked smooth and flawless in that trailer and If they can give me mind blowing graphics at a steady 30fps in a racing game, I'm all for it. I think driveclub is the game that proves you don't need to have 60fps in a racing game for it to be awesome.

[tee_bag242]

Definitely.. 30 fps is criminal in a racing game. Well its a crime in any game in my world but its sacrilege in a racing game.

[sinjonezp]

@odderz

while 60 is preferred, developers have learned to use graphical tricks to make it seem very smooth. My only concern is how it translate into input. When I'm turning, breaking at high rates of speed, would that frame rate affect that. There have been plenty of games at 30 and its fine. When u dip into 20's, that's when things become difficult on the eyes and input.

[Aurenar]

I am very happy with the choice. They can experiment with more effective uses of the touchpad of DualShock 4.

I am happy with the technical parity between PS4 and PC, because I like to dream about the possibility of cross-play between the two communities.

[Nine_Thousaaandd]

Yeah...the PS4 and PC parity, I welcome big time. Sony has been very open-minded to PlayStation joining PC gamers on the same servers.

Be nice to hear if MotoGP communities from both sides will play together.

[Alexious]

I doubt that will happen, but it would indeed be very interesting to see!

[voodoochild346]

Pc gameplay is scalable. You don't need to gimp to pc version to have crossplay between consoles.

[MRMagoo123]

Hardware in the pc is the thing that gimps games not the devs, if you have a sh!t pc it wont run games well, if you have a good pc it will.

[voodoochild346]

@MRMagoo123
My point was that parity between pc and console versions is not required for cross platform play. If you can't follow the dialogue don't comment.

[Software_Lover]

So are they saying PC will be stuck at 30fps?

[Alexious]

Well not really, I'd say what they meant for that is they are trying to maintain a minimum of 30FPS, although that is kind of hard to do with PC. Some particularly weak configurations may struggle to reach even that, while more powerful rigs should have no trouble reaching 60FPS.

[Stapleface]

No.." with a minimum stable frame rate of 30FPS" Sounds like the ps4 is stuck at 30fps but the pc will be able to do beyond that. Any dev locking any game at any frame rate on pc has lost their minds. If that does turn out to be the case, then that is just sad.

[cfc78]

I expected lower res but no game at all lol that's a bit of a p*ss take,must of been more to it than just time.

[MasterCornholio]

I'm guessing they were struggling with the Xbox One version for some reason.

[MasterCornholio]

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Now thats very interesting.

[Milesprowers]

It's just bikes driving around in a circle, hence boring.

[MegaDan]

Hence you're butthurt.

[Software_Lover]

They should add some Road Rash elements to it.

[Stapleface]

This is something I'd actually like to see. A huge open world Road Rash. Could be a lot of fun. Maybe throw in some Skitchin for those who would like a different approach..lol Had a lot of fun with those games as a kid..

[Rivitur]

Road rash is open world as you could get off track and find other roads leading to you never finishing a race.

Also go look up Road Redemption though its still a bit rough.

[DoctorJones]

I'd love a new Road Rash game, that was one of the best games I ever played on the Mega Drive. Great fun. Just an updated version would be fine with me, they could make it look amazing now.

[CrowbaitBob]

It's just a comment made by someone that doesn't enjoy MotoGP in general on a thread about a MototGP game, hence boring.

[kingPoS]

That applies the majority of racing games out there. I guess racing in laps must suck for you.

Project Cars is too good for you.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[No_Limit]

I have all means to play this game but I'll pass because I already have a great racer in Forza 5 and with Forza Horizon 2 incoming, there just ain't enough room for a lower tier racer.

[CrowbaitBob]

MotoGP and Auto racing are very different experiences. I've never seen Forza and MotoGP as competitors in any way.

[MRMagoo123]

Yeh that makes sense no_limit_to_stupidity, I have fifa 2014 so I wont bother getting nba2014 derp derp.

[FITgamer]

You know nothing about Moto GP. This isn't NASCAR. Much more difficult than racing cars. Moto GP games are awesome.

[incendy35]

30fps? ugh. Getting really tired of this. Kind of funny that IOS and Windows Phones guidelines basically force 60fps for a good gaming experience while next gen consoles let it slide.

[tee_bag242]

Its a disgrace. If these consoles got there act together and started aiming for 60 fps I'd go out and buy them both tomorrow.

[Spotie]

Because the consoles are the ones making the games...

[chikane]

@tee_bag242 Thanks i learned something new. I didn't know that consoles make games for themselves.

LOL

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[tee_bag242]

Way to show your ignorance. Had these consoles had half decent hardware we wouldn't be seeing Dev's having to settle for 30fps sup 1080p as a standard.

[kingPoS]

It's time to... tri- tri- triangle!

Gateway MT6706 2008

[Nine_Thousaaandd]

OT:

Once the software tools get better, I'm sure the PS4 will be able to reach 60fps as a standard most of the time. Honestly, that's the biggest issue at the moment that Sony has to overcome along with CPU bottlenecking, they have 1080p as a standard most of the time out the box.

Microsoft on the other hand, they have to cross the resolution gate and push for 60fps...their struggle is much larger than Sony's. That being said...

I'm ok with 30fps long as it's locked and not dipping in the low 20's and teens. Give it some time, better tools are coming...first 2 hurdles for PS4 is CPU and 60fps...and I'm confident it's coming soon.

[urwifeminder]

Massive Moto Gp fan but the games have sucked since THQ lost it and then died, ahh the good old days of 06 and 07 master racing online nothing has come close since.

[ocelot07]

Even though I completely agree that there is a very big difference between 30 and 60 FPS. For first person and 3rd person and RPG's like Dark Souls 60FPS is a must. However am not so sure about racing games.

For example I have Forza 5 for XB1. I also have Need for Speed for PS4. Need for Speed is 30 and Forza is 60. Yet I honestly can't tell the difference. Even when I play Gran Turismo on PS3 I honestly can't tell the difference other than the graphics.

So 30fps for racing games and open world games like Infamous and GTA 5 (even though I feel that runs lower than 30) is completely fine. Everything else should be 60.

[voodoochild346]

The difference between 30 and 60 is night and day. If you can't tell the difference then I don't know what to tell you.

[ocelot07]

Seriously learn to read. I said there is a very big difference between 30 and 60 on other things like FPS and 3rd person. But for racing titles I struggle to see the difference.

[voodoochild346]

@ocelot07
And if you can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps in a racing game then I don't know what to tell you. Comprehension must not be your strong suit if you can't follow my response to your statement. 30 to 60 fps is a big change regardless of the genre. That was my point in case you're still scratching your head.

[starchild]

I find it funny that people are always claiming "60fps is not needed for x genre" or "30fps is perfectly fine for x genre". It's pure silliness. 60fps makes every single type of game look better and play better.

They play better because the overall latency is reduced (16.7ms vs 33.3ms latency per frame) and this results is better controller response.

Games look better at 60fps because the temporal resolution is higher. This basically means that things are much clearer when in motion at 60fps than at 30fps. And games are nearly constantly in motion so 60fps is giving you much higher temporal resolution and clarity.

Again, EVERY type of game benefits from these things.

[Predaking77]

The X1 got Wii ued again? Last week alone there were to games skipping the X1. This is becoming more and more normal everytime.

[ironmonkey]

well 60fps did not make forza better.

[No_Limit]

You are right, 60fps alone did not make forza better but combine it with 1080p makes Forza 5 a masterpiece.!!!

[MysticStrummer]

The meaning of "masterpiece" has really changed I guess.

[CrowbaitBob]

I gotta say my experience with Forza 5 has proven that 1080p is a meaningless bullet point. Forza 5 looks like an upres version of a 360/PS3 game to me. Nowhere near masterpiece.

I've seen sub-1080p next gen games that actually look much better than Forza. When I look at Forza I look at more than just the car models though so maybe I'm just doing it wrong.

[Flutterby]

The only thing that's a master piece is the scissor work on the cardboard cut out audience, I have looked really close even zoomed in and I can barely see the wibbly lines from the scissors.

[veterangamer1]

forza 5 looks great, have you guys that puts it down even played the game? And as it stands, no racing game yet is 60fps on ps4, driveclub looks a lot better in detail, but it runs in 30fps so thats to be expected. Its hard to go back to 30fps once your used to 60fps.

[voodoochild346]

Yep all those jaggies look stellar on Forza 5. /s
Comments like this is why pc gamers don't take console gamers seriously.

[veterangamer1]

and not one driving game on pc looks better.

[Flutterby]

Well luckily xbone owners haven't had the chance to get used to 60 fps then.

[bumnut]

THQ Moto GP games were better, they looked good, played good and ran at 60 FPS on Xbox 360.

[D3ATH_DRIV3R_777]

Wow! ppl are such graphics and framerate freaks these days! so what if it's not 60 fps? give it a rest. On topic: i haven't played a good bike racer in years ever since RR, so i'm definitely going to keep my eyes on this. Looks awesome!

[weirdo]

a locked 30 with pimp looks e.g. driveclub has my money - the sense of speed is there!

[Festano]

They did a great job as the Milestone. But I think the best choice is to play it on PC.

[vlashyr]

I agree, even if it goes to 30 fps is important to have fun gameplay and well done.

[Kingoftherodeo]

its not like the system couldn't run the game. then again I'm personally not interested on a racing game thats about motorcycles

[OWWO]

pffff.... 30 fps

[XStation]

Never even heard of it. In addition, Forza Horzion 2 > MotoGP 14 when it's announced.

[Makkanchor]

Moto gp is amazing❤️❤️❤️