The Three Ways Forward For Microsoft And The Xbox One

Forbes - My colleague Mark Rogowsky recently published a piece that contained a rather worrying chart, which showed the growing disparity between PS4 and Xbox One sales. Though the gap was a million consoles a few months ago in favor of Sony , now the gulf has widened, with Microsoft MSFT +0.13% more or less refusing to publish actual sales, giving only a units shipped number that forces everyone to compare apples to oranges.

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DemonChicken1640d ago (Edited 1640d ago )

1. yes <--- would lead to 3.
2. oh god <--- Digital only would sink it, no different to original DRM
3. yes <--- which is what we have been seeing

avengers19781639d ago

Plus no blu-ray drive kinda takes away the all in one aspect of the console. Point one and three do make sense, I know an awful lot of people who don't want kinect and don't want to pay 500

Chaostar1640d ago (Edited 1640d ago )

If resolution-gate has taught us anything it's that there IS, in fact, a pretty big difference in both these consoles. Why is the media so reluctant to admit this?

dodgemoose1639d ago

Sorry to burst your bubble but in reality 'resolution-gate' doesn't really mean anything to most owners, who probably don't even know they're not playing in native 1080p on an upscaled game.

Ghost_Nappa1639d ago

Framerate is more important to me.

BIB1639d ago

Obviously the sales disparity between the two says that "most owners" who are most likely well informed gamers know about the power and resolution difference between XBO and PS4...But to each of their own.

Chaostar1639d ago

I didn't say that anybody cared just that there is in fact a difference, one that many people like yourself are sugar coating for the sake of your personal bias'.

If I cared I'd argue, like BIB there, that the sale disparity is definitely part due to this very thing.

dodgemoose1639d ago (Edited 1639d ago )

Depends on the game. Obviously 60 fps is preferable but on certain games 30 fps is perfectly acceptable - for instance, with The Order (although the argument that lower fps provides a more 'cinematic feel' is the biggest load of bs I've ever heard).

The sales disparity shows more people would rather pay less and get a a core games console than pay a premium for a less powerful 'media centre'. Doesn't mean they know anything about 'resolution-gate'. Btw, it's 'each to their own', not 'each of their own'.

Why would the media cover it if no one cared then? And my 'personal bias'? What, as a PS4 owner? Er...

BIB1638d ago (Edited 1638d ago )


You just invalidated your own comment. If they pay less for a more powerful system, more than likely they already know the more powerful system has better resolution throughput (hence the gamer backlash with "resolution-gate") anyway. In addition, the idiom you quoted "each to their own" is wrong as well. Should be "to each their own" but thanks for the grammar lesson otherwise.

dodgemoose1638d ago (Edited 1638d ago )

'If they pay less for a more powerful system' it shows they have common sense. Anyway, don't let me stop you from believing every owner is aware of 'resolution-gate' - I'm sure they're all fascinated! Oh, and please don't feel so self-conscious, I just wanted to let you know the common expression is 'each TO their own' - rather than 'each OF their own' - so you don't make the same mistake again. :)

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AngelicIceDiamond1639d ago (Edited 1639d ago )

@Chaostar Because realistically besides resolution the difference isn't that big.

The difference would be big if the X1 wasn't able to achieve 1080p.

Then the media would be all over it.

There's nothing to bicker about when both are 1080p (but people do somehow anyway)

Chaostar1639d ago

"The difference would be big if the X1 wasn't able to achieve 1080p"

Isn't that exactly what's happening though? Sure, it's possible to make games 1080 on Xb One but so many are not and yet are on PS4.

Mr Pumblechook1639d ago

Resolution matters to the hardcore, but after the first year and a bit the mainstream crowd will start buying and at the moment they don't really know about resolution.

Also, you can bet Microsoft will announce a price drop at E3, the only uncertainty is whether they remove Kinect to do it. I suspect Spencer will.

Chaostar1639d ago

You're probably right but once the stigma of 'weaker console' is attached to the Xbox it may just carry into mainstream. I think the hardcore community has at least some influence on mainstream adoption.

-Mezzo-1640d ago (Edited 1640d ago )

I'd say stop everything and give the Controller a revamp, they used to have the best Controller but this time, it just bad... Bad Design, Awkwardly/Needlessly Big, and get rid of the damn batteries ( It's Next Gen For God's Sake ).

Though i love the Thumb-sticks on it.

I don't understand how there's even a competition between PS4 & Xbox One's controllers.

Fireseed1640d ago

"Awkward/Needlessly Big"

And yet it's smaller than the 360 controller...

GarrusVakarian1639d ago (Edited 1639d ago )

I've actually really started to love the X1 controller, i think i would rate it higher than the 360 controller after using it for a while, which is shocking because the 360 controller used to be my favourite. The material used for the controller itself is better than the DS4, imo, so are the triggers. I still prefer the DS4 overall though. Here's what i think-

X1 controller

Better material for controller (much more sweat resistant, kind of a dry/matte feel)
Better materials of the sticks
Better triggers (dat luxury feel)


Better handles/comfort/grip (feels like it was made specifically for my hands, lol)
Better shoulder buttons (actual buttons, not cheap clicky things)
Better face buttons (sounds petty, but they feel better to press, lol)
Better sticks (i prefer the resistance of the DS4 sticks, X1 sticks are too small and too loose)
Better D-pad.

Overall, im really happy with both controllers this gen. I hated the DS3 last gen, so it was always awkward switching between the two consoles. But this gen, they both feel great and i have no problem going from my X1 to my PS4.

I know you shouldn't have to go out and buy play and charge kits in this day and age, rechargeable batteries as standard is ridiculous, but the play and charge kit for the X1 is excellent. Lasts absolutely ages.

SixtyNine1640d ago (Edited 1640d ago )

Everyone seems to know what's "best" for Microsoft.

@Mezzo about controllers, that's a subjective thing. I think the X1 controller is even better than the 360s one. I used it at the Xbox One tour in europe. The sticks, d-pad and triggers are all perfect.

Godmars2901640d ago

But the batteries do need to go. Be rechargeable w/o needing an additional kit.

combolock1639d ago

the charge lasts like 2 weeks anyway....the current model doesn't need to go.

Hicken1639d ago

Well, Microsoft doesn't, else they'd be where they expected, and wouldn't have faced that backlash. That they keep saying it was an error in communicating their message, rather than their message being something not enough people wanted to hear, says they haven't quite leaned their lesson yet.

OrangePowerz1639d ago

I like how they still go like "It`s not our fault it`s the fault of the people because they just don`t get us and what we want to do". Not the slightest hint of remorse for trying to screw their costumers.

OrangePowerz1639d ago

I think MS has shown last year that they surely don`t know what is best for the Xbox, that`s the only way I explain that huge screw up. Everybody expected them to be the top dog this gen before the reveal until we saw the console and it`s features.

BIB1639d ago (Edited 1639d ago )

Alot of those XBO owners who "know what's "best" did offer Microsoft some feedback on improving the console and interface...For you to insinuate that products owner's can't give input on how to improve a product is just asinine.

SixtyNine1639d ago

Obviously, you're the one who's 'asinine' for failing to interpret my comment correctly.

I'd spell it out for you, but no. . I'll leave you to it.

BIB1639d ago


"you're the one who's 'asinine'"

Attack the person instead of the argument. Typical. No need to get defensive or sensitive. I didn't insult or try to make you or your comment look ignorant. You and the disagrees did that all on its own and the link in my comment proves my point.

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OrangePowerz1639d ago (Edited 1639d ago )

Fully agree with 1 and 3 and once they cut the Kinect and reduce the price I will get one.

Removing the disc drive and going digital only would end in a disaster. Not every person wants or can download 25-50GB large games especially not in the US where they have data limits. Plus what All in One multimedia device would that be that can`t play DVD or Blu Ray movies? Also it wouldn`t allow for a 50-100 bucks cheaper console because first of all Disc drives are not that expensive and secondly the money saving would be offset by the bigger HDD.

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